Fps drop games after few seconds - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have noticed (since today this is happening to my device) when i start up a game, it runs very smooth. But after a while it begins to stutter and it is just not playable anymore.
I play real racing 3, i have seen videos on youtube where they are playing this game on ultra high quality and it runs smooth, but on my nexus 5 it is laggy and not fun to play.
What can cause this problem? This never happened before till today.
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It might just be thermal throttling. Let the phone cool down a bit and try again later.

Thank you for your reply, i will try again tomorrow then. But i hace a feeling thay it will comeback because my nexus gets a little hot while playing heavy games
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I Have tried it now, still having the fps lag.
This never happened before
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Chromium_ said:
It might just be thermal throttling. Let the phone cool down a bit and try again later.
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Wrap it in a shirt, throw it in the freezer. Try to get it to like 20 degrees Celsius (use CPU z app to check temp) then play the game. If it still lags, then you can confirm its not thermal throttling.
glaeb said:
I Have tried it now, still having the fps lag.
This never happened before
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Sorry i am not planning to root my phone, it gets hot when gaming and then the fps drops, am i the only one having this issue? I hope for not
Anyone knows what is going on? This never happened before
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Hi,
You have a quadcore phone running at 2,26 Ghz (ok, not all the time but...), enclosed and without a cooling system, so when you play an heavy game "for a while" expect some heat then thermal throttling... (the CPU freq decreases according to the CPU/battery temp, maybe the GPU freq too but I'm not sure about that) so you can have at a certain point some FPS drops... Nothing more. And in a game it's not only the GPU that plays its role but also the CPU.
If you don't want to root (at least unlocked) there is nothing to do (like decrease the max CPU freq to limit the thermal throttling, undervolt, or tweak the thermal management), maybe trying to play less longer? Have you some "huge" apps running in background? You don't play while charging your phone?

Thank you for your reply! Before all this i could play deadzone 'shadowgun' for like 1hr without any problems.
Now i cant play any high quality games for 5 minutes because after the 5 min it starts running laggy. That is what i found strange
Its very sad because i see videos on youtube where they play on hughest graphics with real racing 3 and other high end games. And mine cant even run smooth for 5 mins.
All other things besides the gaming runs smooth
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glaeb said:
Before all this i could play deadzone 'shadowgun' for like 1hr without any problems.
Now i cant play any high quality games for 5 minutes because after the 5 min it starts running laggy. That is what i found strange
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Hum...What have you done between "before" and "now"?
Maybe a weird question but maybe there is something...
What is your room temperature?
And:
Have you some "huge" apps running in background? You don't play while charging your phone?
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I havent done anything between then and now (maybe installing some apps but thats it) my room temperature is normal. 21C - 18C i live in a cold country haha.
Sorry i forgot that question with apps in the backround.
I never have any apps running in the backround, i always use task manager and i always close the recent apps.
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Maybe some useful info: I have ran a antutu test and my score was 21k.
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Ok...
How did you measure the FPS drop? Does your game have really some lags?
In any case I don't know a single game with a solid and constant FPS..., for me nothing wrong with your phone, try a factory reset to see...
glaeb said:
Maybe some useful info: I have ran a antutu test and my score was 21k.
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Nope, or at least it could confirm thermal throttling that's all, full stock you should score about 28 000-30 000...

Thank you for your reply, realy appreciate it! i will backup my apps and try a factory reset.
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Fac. Reset worked i guess!? Still a little laggy but it is less noticable for sure! I am downlaoding real racing 3 now, hope it will run smooth
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Also you should be mindful of the heat coming from your phone. You say you can play games for hours in the past. I know after 1 level of dead trigger can have my phone @ 105 degrees easy. I can't imagine playing for a hour straight with ultra settings. Heat is the biggest enemy to your CPU and Battery.
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glaeb said:
Fac. Reset worked i guess!?
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I don't know...?
glaeb said:
Still a little laggy but it is less noticable for sure! I am downlaoding real racing 3 now, hope it will run smooth
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What is laggy?
Yep try with your game and see, but keep in mind what has been explained about thermal throttling...

I ment Shadowgun hehe i am going to test real racing 3 if it is done downloading.
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glaeb said:
I ment Shadowgun hehe i am going to test real racing 3 if it is done downloading.
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Ah ok...
Could you post a video when you play your game, if it's possible?
How did you measure the FPS drop?

Sure! If it is still laggy i will post a video here
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0cIaeiEXUg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Game play fps is like this, this one stutters too. I cant see anywhere where to lower the graphics of the game
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Related

Any other games I NEED to get?

This is also a test of screencast. How do I get rid of the green bar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R62iNjV05Rc
wooow! What a gamer ! Which option do you use on Supercharger ?
786hp and 1.4ghz oc
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cool
TehTimeb0mb said:
This is also a test of screencast. How do I get rid of the green bar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R62iNjV05Rc
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I left u a comment on yt an thanks for the screen cast app ill prolly post some vidz soon
toppdogg93 said:
I left u a comment on yt an thanks for the screen cast app ill prolly post some vidz soon
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Thanks! also screencast is by far the best. all the Android SDK free ones are way to choppy to do anything with.
All those games on the phone!? Does your phone gets laggy when playing a game? I've onle have like 3 games on mine and when I'm playing it gets a bit of laggy using Ram Manager Pro What programs/tweaks do you have to get better performance on your phone?
Jmayorga96 said:
All those games on the phone!? Does your phone gets laggy when playing a game? I've onle have like 3 games on mine and when I'm playing it gets a bit of laggy using Ram Manager Pro What programs/tweaks do you have to get better performance on your phone?
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OCed to 1.4-1.5(1.4 is more stable), V6 Supercharged to 512Hp Aggressive, 420mb Internal storage, and Apps2SD (I have a 32GB).
Also I couldn't live with only 3 games.
TehTimeb0mb said:
OCed to 1.4-1.5(1.4 is more stable), V6 Supercharged to 512Hp Aggressive, 420mb Internal storage, and Apps2SD (I have a 32GB).
Also I couldn't live with only 3 games.
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How is youre battery life ?
Android Is ReadyTo Play. said:
How is youre battery life ?
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Meh decent if not gaming a lot. So far the worst game is asphalt 6. drained like 15% in about 20 min
I played Temple Run for a long time.. it's good..
Defender II its a good game too.. I'm playing too... Like defend the castle
KOF Android it's good too but isn't work anymore.. (**** G-Gee)
Fifa 12.. the best Soccer for play..
I'm looking for good games too
No kidding, but I have over 50 games.. And I ain't even rooted. It's rare that I play these games. However my xperia is still quite smooth and works quite well
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Gpu overclock

Is it possible to increase our galaxy R gpu clock from present 300MHz to higher frequency without tegra 2 drivers?
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There is the Cranium kernel that OC's GPU to 400 MHz but it's old and bugged (WiFi freezes phone).
why you want to over clock GPU, all the games work fine with present one....
Actually I just got Temple Run Brave today and it's pretty choppy at times. Same with Asphalt 6 HD - some framedrops.
dragosh01x said:
Actually I just got Temple Run Brave today and it's pretty choppy at times. Same with Asphalt 6 HD - some framedrops.
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Temple run and asphalt both run flawlessly for me. Even on stock kernel with on oc.
Games i tested on stock without any single glitch.
Asphalt6, fruit ninja thd and normal, contract killer, ck zombies, shadowgun, blood n glory, gta3 all this games have extream graphics and our sgr handles it without any problem
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Temple run Brave got hanged on my galaxy R .I had to restart my phone and when opened temple run Brave again,I had lost my coins and all achievements.In store it was showing 0.
And when I was playing this game yesterday while mobile was charging,cpu temperature had gone upto 55°C.
Is this game bug or cpu problem?
Has anybody experienced similar problems?
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Yes, that's what I'm saying, some games, like the new Temple Run Brave aren't all-time-smooth. On the other hand, the original Temple Run is 100% OK, but still doesn't seem as fast as on slightly higher end devices like SGSII or Prada 3. Does anyone have an explanation to this ?
I overclocked my cpu to 1300MHZ and temperature rose to 55°c and it finally hanged.
It is happening to temple run brave only,on other hand, all other games
works flaw lessly.
I do think ,this is game bug . and in market reviews,even sgs2 and galaxy nexus reported the same type of bug.
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pudup said:
Temple run brave works perfectly for me. Overclocking gpu is unnecessary.
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same here just got my sgr from ssc and tried this game, no issues i played for about 35 mins and i dont face any problem it runs smoothly.
pudup said:
What rom are you on?
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I am using indian stock rom 2.3.5 and i think it is full of bugs.
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Lag whilst installing apps from Google Play Store

Hi XDA,
I've got a problem whilst installing apps (obviously). I download an app from Play Store, it downloads, and whilst it says 'installing' I get a huge lag on my phone. It sometimes even freezes for a few seconds. When it finishes installing it goes back to normal like nothing happened. Its like whenever I install an app, I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone. Does anyone else experience this and how can I fix it?
Thanks <3
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ProVickers said:
I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone
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Hi,
:laugh:
Well, it happens sometimes with some huge apps when installing them. Lags yes, but no freezes, at least for me.
As far as I know nothing to do..., I would say that it's a known "problem".
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
ProVickers said:
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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simms22 said:
960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
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Really, it won't save any battery? I might as well give it a go then, always thought it was one of the major battery saving settings. Thanks for your advice guys!
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
simms22 said:
i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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kufikugel said:
Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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2572mhz
I'm at 1.57GHz or whatever you recommended. And battery life looks just like it did before, awesome! Although I do still get a tiny bit of lag still, there's no freezing at all. Will have to just wait to see if it goes well. Thanks!
Me 1-0 Laggatron
simms22 said:
i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
VaccaThreeSixteen said:
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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Whaaaaaaat???
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Dem old thread bumps tho.
Happens all the time in Q&A lol.
adichandra said:
lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
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Were you sleeping under a rock for the past couple months?
Lol i use tapatalk and didnt notice the date lol
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Nexus 5 RAM issues??

I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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No such problems here.
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IRX120 said:
I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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Do you have any app that can change Rom/kernel settings Like faux clock, Rom toolbox, trickster mod.. etc?
The workaround for your memory issue is lowering the values on OOM settings. Any of those apps can edit those values.
IRX120 said:
I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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its sounds like its something on your end that might be eating your ram. btw, have you checked how much ram you have left at any point? if so, whats the number? are you using any flashable mods? do you have lots of activity enabled? this might be the first time ive read of a nexus 5 with ram issues! or maybe its not? in the phones main settings, developer options, do you have it selected to kill apps after a few are opened?
Just as an FYI, I reflashed the stock ROM, then flashed elementalX Kernel again and my ram use seems better, I just still have the issue when playing gangstar 4 or asphalt 8 where if I close the app (go to home screen) and go back into the app it has to reload.
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Why don't you stick with the stock kernel?
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IRX120 said:
Just as an FYI, I reflashed the stock ROM, then flashed elementalX Kernel again and my ram use seems better, I just still have the issue when playing gangstar 4 or asphalt 8 where if I close the app (go to home screen) and go back into the app it has to reload.
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I wouldn't really worry about RAM, post 4.4 Ram really ins't a problem. It is most likely a placebo if you see a degradation in performance .If you are really worried about RAM check your RAM usage in apps and maybe post some screen shots if anything is out of the normal.

[Q] [RECOVERY] Is there a recovery like this for the N5?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898705
I'm curious if there is a custom version of TWRP for the Nexus 5. I think I've seen screenshots that have temp of the CPU on the N5, but I haven't been able to find a custom version. If there is, could someone link me to it please? Thanks in advance!
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procitysam said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898705
I'm curious if there is a custom version of TWRP for the Nexus 5. I think I've seen screenshots that have temp of the CPU on the N5, but I haven't been able to find a custom version. If there is, could someone link me to it please? Thanks in advance!
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What features are you after? Themes can add CPU tmperature such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...e-twrp-materialised-dark-light-play-t2915611/
rootSU said:
What features are you after? Themes can add CPU tmperature such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...e-twrp-materialised-dark-light-play-t2915611/
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Specifically something that doesn't run all CPU cores at max speed. If in recovery too long, that could lead to hardware damage.
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I've never heard if any troubles with phones using full speed during recovery. In that case you shouldn't play heavy games (or even simple games), watch movies, stream video and so on. Don't worry about this, the weak parts of a phone are battery, screen, buttons, orts, not the use of a recovery. This is cosmetic without any proven effect, like UV for preserving battery and so on. Even using it ten minutes every day won't cause any damage.
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Specifically something that doesn't run all CPU cores at max speed
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Nope. Never seen one.
procitysam said:
If in recovery too long, that could lead to hardware damage.
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Not really. CPUs are built to be able to withstand this. Damage comes from excess heat and higher clock. I.e over volt.
Alright, thanks everyone.
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Just in case anyone doesn't know this, CPU load / utilisation and CPU clock speed are not synonymous. A CPU can be clocking at 2 GHz or whatever but only be under 5% load. Sure, governors will usually ramp the CPU clock up under high loads. But if you think about the performance governor in Android for example, it sets the CPU at max frequency all the time, but the load will not always be 100% in fact it will hardly ever be 100%
Also if you look at a laptop, it will be clocking high, most of the time maybe not always max, but often not far off
Most android governors will get you to max clock long before 100% some even at 50%

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