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[Q] NS4G Heat Problem

My Nexus S 4G seems to heat up very quickly. While I was expecting this behavior during excessive 3g/4g use, I was NOT expecting it while reading PDFs on my phone. I am using the built-in ThinkOffice to read the PDFs, but the phone always heats up after 10-15 minutes of use. Has this happened to anyone else before? If so, what is the solution?
Currently, my phone is rooted, with 2.3.7 stock ROM w/ Apoc-Talon v 2.1 kernel, overclocked to 1440 Mhz w/ Smartass v2. The heat problem has also happened while my phone was running a stock 2.3.4 ROM on the Netarchy kernel.

Its your kernel. I'm running cm7 at 1440 too and my phone never gets past 110 degrees Fahrenheit. Even while tethering which surprised me. When I tethered on my epic it would get hot enough to fry eggs. Even when downclocking to reduce heat. Just a hunch
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You are overclocking your phone.... You do understand that with increased voltages comes heat?
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Even from just reading PDFs?

Rem3Dy said:
You are overclocking your phone.... You do understand that with increased voltages comes heat?
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Even if your overclocked it doesn't mean your gonna overheat. The CPU scales. Remember that. Its not like its running at 1440 all the time. Ive been running at 1440 ever since 7.1.0 came out with absolutely no overheating or lock ups.
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RushAOZ said:
Even if your overclocked it doesn't mean your gonna overheat. The CPU scales. Remember that. Its not like its running at 1440 all the time. Ive been running at 1440 ever since 7.1.0 came out with absolutely no overheating or lock ups.
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You can't dispute what I said. Because you are able to overclock to 1.4 without issues he should automatically be able to? Are all cpu's equal? Take some time to think about it.
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Rem3Dy said:
You can't dispute what I said. Because you are able to overclock to 1.4 without issues he should automatically be able to? Are all cpu's equal? Take some time to think about it.
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Of course. But that wasn't wwhat you said. You said overclocking needs higher voltages. Understood. I was only saying that the chances of his phone overheating because of ocing is slim. As far as I know only benchmarks and a few gpu intensive games will push the phone to run at 1.440 ghz. The CPU scales and barely even touches 1.2 ghz. Floats around 200 and 800mhz for the most part. I'm deducing this from my own usage and keeping an eye on the CPU with cpuspy. My point was that ocing wont do this unless he's actually pushing the CPU that far or setting the governor to performance. Which from the looks of it isn't the case
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Now that I measured it with a battery app, the temperature only goes up to 107.6 degrees...guess it just seemed really hot to me.

[Q] OC - noob - should I go for it? Risks? Worth it?

Hi.
I a speed freak! If there is something I hate, is lag.
I therefore thought of using a better kernel for my G2x.
As I understand, some kernels can OC the cpu. Wow. That's cool, first of all.
Second - any conclusions about this? Is it safe? Does it really make a difference (i don't game on my G2x)?
THANKS!

Since you obviously don't know how to use the search function, I'll just tell you that it is perfectly safe to install a kernel and constantly run it at 1.5 Gh.
Go buy setcpu from the market to set your processor speed at Max, and leave it there. All the time. No matter what.

Beekersguy said:
Since you obviously don't know how to use the search function, I'll just tell you that it is perfectly safe to install a kernel and constantly run it at 1.5 Gh.
Go buy setcpu from the market to set your processor speed at Max, and leave it there. All the time. No matter what.
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Haha, good answer..Or you can go and download CPU master for free. =)... But honestly overclocking is not good

There's no real speed difference when overclocking install a custom kernel but don't overclocking it its a waste of battery
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risks? yes. it kills your battery faster, and battery life will drop. by battery life, i mean the amount of recharge/discharge cycles it normally will allow will drop.
pros? makes your phone much faster. and no its not a placebo. if you bump up your kernel from 1ghz to 1.5ghz, thats obviously a speed increase. how can it not be faster.
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But also the risk at a constant 1.5 of overheating and burn out of the processor.

if you're a noob and don't know exactly what OC is, don't do that.
it can kill your battery and processor much faster, make you're phone unstable and accidentally overheat and burn out your processor, if you have a constant OC
processor life is worth the wait imo

I oc mine tops 1.2 and its as fast as it needs to be for my needs. I also bump up the minimal speed to about 500-800 cuz our g2x's should never be running that slow even when idle/screen off imo.
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Just saying setcpu is free on XDA
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GTWalling said:
But also the risk at a constant 1.5 of overheating and burn out of the processor.
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I set my cpu to run at minimum when the temp reaches a certain level. It's never actually happened though...my phone runs real cool at 1.4ghz
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[Poll] Favorite CPU App

I'm curious as to what everyone's favorite app for changing kernel frequencies is. I figured I'd do a poll thread to find out so that I wouldn't have to ask in different threads from time to time. If you want you can also list why in the comments.

I been using the built in CPU freq changers, works fine.. before that I use setcpu
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InflatedTitan said:
I been using the built in CPU freq changers, works fine.. before that I use setcpu
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I just started using Voltage Control. It seems pretty good. I heard some good things about setCPU and some bad. That's why I started this thread. I wanna know the difference between all of them cuz there's so many lol. Like, I don't know if some are the same app with just different names or if they are made and coded differently to handle things differenly.

I used setcpu before anything similar was integrated into ROMs, I bought it.after a while and haven't used it since. I don't overclock or anything because I don't use my phone for games, mainly media.
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Trickster mod is what I use
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Setcpu, sometimes NoFrIlls.
I also use CPUnotify to tell me if the phones cores are active via the status bar.
WR
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I mostly use the buil-in cpu tool. Together with some other tools (CPU-Spy) it's completely sufficient.

reblow said:
I mostly use the buil-in cpu tool. Together with some other tools (CPU-Spy) it's completely sufficient.
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I love the CPU Spy app. It's usually one of the first apps I install.
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absolutelygrim said:
I used setcpu before anything similar was integrated into ROMs, I bought it.after a while and haven't used it since. I don't overclock or anything because I don't use my phone for games, mainly media.
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I never thought about that. So is overclocking really meant mostly for gaming?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
I never thought about that. So is overclocking really meant mostly for gaming?
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I'd say so. But I use to have an aria which was a 600MHz single core. I clocked it up to 806MHz. And that was considered fast 2 years ago!
With a dual core at 1.5GHz, I'd say it's nothing more than a battery drain if you aren't gaming. What I do however, is underclock my hox while the screen is off.
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absolutelygrim said:
I'd say so. But I use to have an aria which was a 600MHz single core. I clocked it up to 806MHz. And that was considered fast 2 years ago!
With a dual core at 1.5GHz, I'd say it's nothing more than a battery drain if you aren't gaming. What I do however, is underclock my hox while the screen is off.
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Using profiles? What do you underclock it to? Whenever I would do that I would set up a profile for screen off and use max 384 and min 192 or 384 but that may be a little extreme.

SkizzMcNizz said:
Using profiles? What do you underclock it to? Whenever I would do that I would set up a profile for screen off and use max 384 and min 192 or 384 but that may be a little extreme.
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Governor powersave and max and min both at 205 MHz
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I use System Tuner Pro. It does CPU speed, voltage, I/O and so much more.

the_scotsman said:
I use System Tuner Pro. It does CPU speed, voltage, I/O and so much more.
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Same here....
I agree though, that there is rarely a real "need" to overclock unless you feel the rom is slow or you are an avid gamer..

I use SetCPU because it was the first app I came across, but I've stuck with it for the small features. I like being able to set notifications when individual profiles become active (useful for games), and seeing the "Time in State" pie chart lets me know if my CPU is being fussy when idling. Sure, other apps may have more features, but there's literally no reason for me to look for a new one

Rom toolbox pro works fantastic!
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Using No-Frills, not a whole lot of features but the most lightweight app I have found for handling OC, I like SetCPU but I would get wakelocks it seemed using profiles, so didn't add much benefit IMO.

Lag whilst installing apps from Google Play Store

Hi XDA,
I've got a problem whilst installing apps (obviously). I download an app from Play Store, it downloads, and whilst it says 'installing' I get a huge lag on my phone. It sometimes even freezes for a few seconds. When it finishes installing it goes back to normal like nothing happened. Its like whenever I install an app, I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone. Does anyone else experience this and how can I fix it?
Thanks <3
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ProVickers said:
I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone
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Hi,
:laugh:
Well, it happens sometimes with some huge apps when installing them. Lags yes, but no freezes, at least for me.
As far as I know nothing to do..., I would say that it's a known "problem".

Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.

Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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^^^
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.

ProVickers said:
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.

Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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simms22 said:
960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
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Really, it won't save any battery? I might as well give it a go then, always thought it was one of the major battery saving settings. Thanks for your advice guys!
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.

simms22 said:
i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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kufikugel said:
Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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2572mhz

I'm at 1.57GHz or whatever you recommended. And battery life looks just like it did before, awesome! Although I do still get a tiny bit of lag still, there's no freezing at all. Will have to just wait to see if it goes well. Thanks!
Me 1-0 Laggatron
simms22 said:
i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.

VaccaThreeSixteen said:
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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Whaaaaaaat???
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Dem old thread bumps tho.
Happens all the time in Q&A lol.

adichandra said:
lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
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Were you sleeping under a rock for the past couple months?

Lol i use tapatalk and didnt notice the date lol
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[Q] Safe to overclock?

Would it be safe to overclock to 2.8GHz with the CPU Governor as "intelliactive" and leave it there for normal use?
ROM: HD Revolution 5.5
Kernel: Faux

Probably.
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With some tweaking it should be stable. My one question though... Why? Who needs that much power lol
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wtoj34 said:
With some tweaking it should be stable. My one question though... Why? Who needs that much power lol
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The real question is why not? LOL. Honestly though I just like finding new things to do with my phone and coming from a locked Galaxy S4 I have to say I'm enjoying the amount of things I can do with this device that I couldn't on the S4. The extra 600MHz was because I was hoping it would drop any chances of lag with my favorite apps & Xposed which always seems to cause a delay or two for me. On the other hand I like squeezing what I can out of it. Same with my Desktop too, get maximum stable over clock and stick with it. ;D. If there's some downsides such as life shortage feel free to mention it though because I'd rather know early on than when it's too late. Sorta the point of this thread
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S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
The real question is why not? LOL. Honestly though I just like finding new things to do with my phone and coming from a locked Galaxy S4 I have to say I'm enjoying the amount of things I can do with this device that I couldn't on the S4. The extra 600MHz was because I was hoping it would drop any chances of lag with my favorite apps & Xposed which always seems to cause a delay or two for me. On the other hand I like squeezing what I can out of it. Same with my Desktop too, get maximum stable over clock and stick with it. ;D. If there's some downsides such as life shortage feel free to mention it though because I'd rather know early on than when it's too late. Sorta the point of this thread
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I've got my i5 2500k overclocked to 4.3 GHz now stock voltage . As for life shortage its hard to say. I would monitor temps on stock vs over clocked and compare. As long as it doesn't get considerably warmer which for mobile would be 10° more or less you should be fine
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wtoj34 said:
I've got my i5 2500k overclocked to 4.3 GHz now stock voltage . As for life shortage its hard to say. I would monitor temps on stock vs over clocked and compare. As long as it doesn't get considerably warmer which for mobile would be 10° more or less you should be fine
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Well with normal use it gets like 40-55 C (CPU) and during an Antutu benchmark just at the beginning it hit 75C sooo not very happy with that.... especially considering that's in the highs for a lot of desktop processors, can't even imagine how bad that must be for a phone processor LOL. It was @2.803 MHz with voltage of "1130" & ondemand governor. Not so sure as to what "1130" is based on though as I'm new to mobile over clocking, guess I'll figure it out tomorrow!
Edit: Forgot to include that just a few minutes ago I flashed a new kernel due to some random lag, old one never hit above 50 even on tests (with intelliactive). Also using ondemand/interactive now. Gonna re check the differences on those two governors tomorrow and decide which one I wanna go with! : D
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Very cool. Now you got me wanting to overclock. Bad things happen when I cross paths with those numbers
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