My Nexus S 4G seems to heat up very quickly. While I was expecting this behavior during excessive 3g/4g use, I was NOT expecting it while reading PDFs on my phone. I am using the built-in ThinkOffice to read the PDFs, but the phone always heats up after 10-15 minutes of use. Has this happened to anyone else before? If so, what is the solution?
Currently, my phone is rooted, with 2.3.7 stock ROM w/ Apoc-Talon v 2.1 kernel, overclocked to 1440 Mhz w/ Smartass v2. The heat problem has also happened while my phone was running a stock 2.3.4 ROM on the Netarchy kernel.
Its your kernel. I'm running cm7 at 1440 too and my phone never gets past 110 degrees Fahrenheit. Even while tethering which surprised me. When I tethered on my epic it would get hot enough to fry eggs. Even when downclocking to reduce heat. Just a hunch
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You are overclocking your phone.... You do understand that with increased voltages comes heat?
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Even from just reading PDFs?
Rem3Dy said:
You are overclocking your phone.... You do understand that with increased voltages comes heat?
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Even if your overclocked it doesn't mean your gonna overheat. The CPU scales. Remember that. Its not like its running at 1440 all the time. Ive been running at 1440 ever since 7.1.0 came out with absolutely no overheating or lock ups.
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RushAOZ said:
Even if your overclocked it doesn't mean your gonna overheat. The CPU scales. Remember that. Its not like its running at 1440 all the time. Ive been running at 1440 ever since 7.1.0 came out with absolutely no overheating or lock ups.
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You can't dispute what I said. Because you are able to overclock to 1.4 without issues he should automatically be able to? Are all cpu's equal? Take some time to think about it.
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You can't dispute what I said. Because you are able to overclock to 1.4 without issues he should automatically be able to? Are all cpu's equal? Take some time to think about it.
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Of course. But that wasn't wwhat you said. You said overclocking needs higher voltages. Understood. I was only saying that the chances of his phone overheating because of ocing is slim. As far as I know only benchmarks and a few gpu intensive games will push the phone to run at 1.440 ghz. The CPU scales and barely even touches 1.2 ghz. Floats around 200 and 800mhz for the most part. I'm deducing this from my own usage and keeping an eye on the CPU with cpuspy. My point was that ocing wont do this unless he's actually pushing the CPU that far or setting the governor to performance. Which from the looks of it isn't the case
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Now that I measured it with a battery app, the temperature only goes up to 107.6 degrees...guess it just seemed really hot to me.
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Do you overclock or underclock? If so, to what point? If not, why not? What clocking profiles/situations do you have set up? Share your thoughts and experiences.
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Below is the setup that has worked best for me, in terms of performance and battery life. I seem to have found a good balance.
1.2 GHz/245 MHz (Conservative)
Profiles
Screen Off - 768/245 MHz (Conservative)
Charging - 1.2 GHz/245 MHz (On Demand)
In Call - 1 GHz/245 MHz (Conservative)
*Profiles are ordered in terms of priority (e.g., if I am on a phone call and my phone is charging, the charging profile is activated).
*I'm also undervolted.
I keep my phone at ~.7GHz (underclocked) when on battery, 1GHz when on charger, and have profiles for medium (~1.3GHz) and max OC (~1.7GHz), as the kernel will allow, in case I need the extra power for something (like FPSe, chainfire, etc).
I keep mine at 500Mhz...gingerbeast is so beastly it can run decently even at about 200Mhz, I only use maximum...1900Mhz when I am showing off.
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ThEiiNoCeNT said:
I keep mine at 500Mhz...gingerbeast is so beastly it can run decently even at about 200Mhz, I only use maximum...1900Mhz when I am showing off.
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Damn if it doesn't. Never tried it but since you said it I figured I'd test it. Typing this this at 245mhz, and it actually functions decently, even scrolling this page. I tried this with my captivate and it wouldn't even swipe screens. I'm kinda amazed right now.
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I keep mine at 500Mhz...gingerbeast is so beastly it can run decently even at about 200Mhz, I only use maximum...1900Mhz when I am showing off.
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Wow! If that's the case, I may have to give Gingerbeast a shot
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I keep mine at 768 Mhz when on battery. Just to save some power. But i could even go down to 368 Mhz (which i have <50% battery) and it runs decently. I'm using CM7.
what is this overclocking? and how do i check speeds?
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what is this overclocking? and how do i check speeds?
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Just make sure you have root and use setcpu from market
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i use LeeDroid's GB rom setting smartass setcpu at 245-1036 MHZ
battery can last long time
is there a free version because the only one i see a paid version
Im at 1344mhz daily with absurdly outstanding battery life on leedroid 3.1.1. And I'm using antutu CPU master cause setcpu wouldn't let me adjust the slider. No problems whatsoever.
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Before my phone got jacked "another on the way" i run TPGB with ~1.5ghz top and .232ghz low. Smartass govener, and i use my phone alot. I easily got over a day. Thats with tethering-games-email-calls-messaging,
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I was running at max OC (1.8Ghz with LeeDroid's kernel) for a little bit, but realized I didn't need the speed. Since I'm a PC overclocker as well, I couldn't just let things be at stock, so now I'm at 1.267Mhz max, and .245Mhz min. I'm doing my best not to bump it up more, and going to see how much I get out of my phone. I'm a very light user most of the time, so it's sometimes hard to gauge.
I overclocked for the same reason I OC'd my PC, because I could. That said, I'm running MDJ's kernel on Inspired Ace with the smarta** governor set at 245 min and 1400 max.
Seeing several people using smartass governor. I've been using ondemand....I'm gonna run smartass today and see what happens....
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Mine is at 768 all time, with just one profile that kicks when battery heat crosses 46 C that sets max speed at 537.
Adjusted both to 614 and 384 respectively after looking at above posts.
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using setCPU and being on CM7, i overclock to 1.7 ghz while the screen is on, using the interactive gov. i also set up a "screen off" profile that is underclocked to 247? mhz so that while my phone sits in my pocket for the majority of the day or on my desk, etc, etc.... it conserves quite a bit of power.
ive been using this set up since i got my inspire on cm7 (whenever that had its first RC) and im getting anywhere from 48-60 hours of usage.
my daily usage includes: tethering, streaming audiogalaxy, ghosttown, pandora. camera stuffs, calls, texts, 2 email accounts syncing, twitter, facebook, calendar, palmary weather updates, and much more stuff. so im going to stick to this set up until someone says they can get more usage with all that going on.
I run min(250 IIRC) and max(1.5) using on-demand.
I was overclocked at 1800 but my phone would freeze sometimes to where i had to pull my battery. So I tried 1000 but 2 days and then 1500. I noticed little difference in battery us and speed. I stuck with 1500 but after reading this thread i am gonna try 750. I never used any battery monitoring widgets. Im gonna try that. I use Leedroid GB btw.
I'm running at 1.2ghz with Coredroid and am happy.
I'm having an issue with my phone not being responsive if I set the CPU to 400Mhz. I first found this problem using Juice Defender then I uninstalled that and did it under SetCPU and it still did the same thing. The phone pretty much doesn't wake up after a while. I have to do a reboot in order for it to work again.
Don't get mad at me but IMHO overclocking and messing with a phones core features (what makes it run, processor, ram, etc.) is unsafe and can cause instability. And no I have no scientific research to back this up but it's just my two cents.
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Lol I'm not mad. I don't really like to over clock. I just figured under clocking would work better. But nooooo lol
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It does that under 800 mhz I forget why but I've read that in a couple places
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underclocking that much is using less than 1/3rd of your true processor power.
your processor simply is not able to draw enough power to perform its background tasks - even when the phone is idle - when you underclock to such an extreme extent. therefore, it freezes trying to complete these processes.
if you're going to underclock, i'd say that 800 MHz is the lowest you can go if you are expecting your phone to do everything it is supposed to do. although it isn't going to save you THAT much battery life anyway, so you might as well just run it at the stock setting of 1200 MHz.
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Lol I'm not mad. I don't really like to over clock. I just figured under clocking would work better. But nooooo lol
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I understand LOL. And he's right underclocking honestly doesn't
Save much battery.
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There's a known issue with setting CPU profiles to less than 800 MHz. A fix exists but some kernels don't have it.
Many of our Gingerbread kernels fix it, Infusion-GB is one of the few that hasn't pulled in the fix yet. (Although version 1.1 may have pulled it in, haven't checked github lately.)
None of the Froyo kernels have an explicit fix, but I'm not sure if the flaw even applies to our Froyo kernels as the clocking architecture is VERY different.
Hi, Rogers stock 2.3.3
It's using up 60% battery over night. Most likely I should turn off Wi-Fi.
I have underclocked to 100, 200, and 400 and it's stable --- minus the delay/lag at 100 and 200 . Sorry to seem like a troll.
I find that by default this phone either runs at 100mhz or 1200 on average, and 200 400 800 under 10%
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ierdna said:
Hi, Rogers stock 2.3.3
It's using up 60% battery over night. Most likely I should turn off Wi-Fi.
I have underclocked to 100, 200, and 400 and it's stable --- minus the delay/lag at 100 and 200 . Sorry to seem like a troll.
I find that by default this phone either runs at 100mhz or 1200 on average, and 200 400 800 under 10%
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Bumping from 100 to 1200 is classic ondemand governor behavior.
Also, some people never had problems even without netarchy's sleep patch running the CPU capped to 400 - but others have. I don't think anyone has had a problem with a patched kernel.
Hi.
I a speed freak! If there is something I hate, is lag.
I therefore thought of using a better kernel for my G2x.
As I understand, some kernels can OC the cpu. Wow. That's cool, first of all.
Second - any conclusions about this? Is it safe? Does it really make a difference (i don't game on my G2x)?
THANKS!
Since you obviously don't know how to use the search function, I'll just tell you that it is perfectly safe to install a kernel and constantly run it at 1.5 Gh.
Go buy setcpu from the market to set your processor speed at Max, and leave it there. All the time. No matter what.
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Since you obviously don't know how to use the search function, I'll just tell you that it is perfectly safe to install a kernel and constantly run it at 1.5 Gh.
Go buy setcpu from the market to set your processor speed at Max, and leave it there. All the time. No matter what.
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Haha, good answer..Or you can go and download CPU master for free. =)... But honestly overclocking is not good
There's no real speed difference when overclocking install a custom kernel but don't overclocking it its a waste of battery
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risks? yes. it kills your battery faster, and battery life will drop. by battery life, i mean the amount of recharge/discharge cycles it normally will allow will drop.
pros? makes your phone much faster. and no its not a placebo. if you bump up your kernel from 1ghz to 1.5ghz, thats obviously a speed increase. how can it not be faster.
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But also the risk at a constant 1.5 of overheating and burn out of the processor.
if you're a noob and don't know exactly what OC is, don't do that.
it can kill your battery and processor much faster, make you're phone unstable and accidentally overheat and burn out your processor, if you have a constant OC
processor life is worth the wait imo
I oc mine tops 1.2 and its as fast as it needs to be for my needs. I also bump up the minimal speed to about 500-800 cuz our g2x's should never be running that slow even when idle/screen off imo.
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Just saying setcpu is free on XDA
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But also the risk at a constant 1.5 of overheating and burn out of the processor.
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I set my cpu to run at minimum when the temp reaches a certain level. It's never actually happened though...my phone runs real cool at 1.4ghz
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Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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knightofthe9 said:
Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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at the risk of offending you, I would not recommend setting your phone to 2ghz..I can assure you nothing great in the long term is going to happen. As for kernels give LordClockan and TalonAce a glance, I'm not 100% sure if they are 2ghz kernels but its a good jumping off point
2ghz will fry your CPU. Maybe not initially buy your phone will definitely fail prematurely. The only reasons other people do it is because they can and they probably have a newer phone for their daily. Even just overclocking a little bit can have a negative impact but not as drastic. If you insist on overclocking I wouldnt exceed 1.4.
With that said there are several Aosp kernels that will allow you to push it to the limit. Just search the dev forum.
Overclocking your cpu will not hurt it unless its running hotter than the cooling system can handle. It will cause lock ups and failure to boot. If you start overvolting it, you WILL cause premature damage to the chip itself. Optimum overclock has always been 10-20% increase for any processor. Personally id rather underclock and undervolt a little, runs cooler and less power drain.
gizmoe is right, 2ghz is a 'just cuz i can' overclock. it wont run stable at that level. its like the 8ghz overclocks you see on the intel processors using LN2 cooling lol.
2ghz is bad.
I ran my inspire at 2ghz and besides the battery practically counting down the phones was heating up and that was maybe 15 minutes. Definitely not a goods idea.
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Setcpu use to be the go to app but many found it to lag after waking the phone. Many have now moved on to daemon controller. From the looks of it you're using CM7 which has the function built in..I believe its menu > settings > CM settings > performance...or something like that...don't check set on boot until you know how much OC your phone can candle. If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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I've clocked to 2ghz a few times just to get a crazy quadrant score but that's about it. I usually keep mine somewhere in the 900mhz range with a little lite uv'ing and found that to be plenty.
2ghz can definitely be bad for your cpu..... Like to much bacon can be bad for your arteries.....
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I know that if you OC/UV incorrectly, it can cause stability issues. But I was wondering does it cause any damage to the phones hardware like battery, etc? And like how can you tell when SETCPU is causing problems?
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Well if you OC to high numbers your just stressing the cpu more.Knowing when you have issues is simple getting random reboots,phone getting too hot etcc.
It differs for every phone but undervolting -25 for each voltages works well.
Personally I really don't see the point overclocking to high levels like 1.4 ghz etc,Is up to individual I guess.
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Well if you OC to high numbers your just stressing the cpu more.Knowing when you have issues is simple getting random reboots,phone getting too hot etcc.
It differs for every phone but undervolting -25 for each voltages works well.
Personally I really don't see the point overclocking to high levels like 1.4 ghz etc,Is up to individual I guess.
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Yeah I have been wondering what's the point of OC to 1.4? Does it make that big of a difference in the 4g speed? And cpu speed?
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Honestly, there really is no point other than for benchmarks. I, like mt3g, actually underclock the phone to something like 750-760mhz; it runs beautifully smooth.
Other than that, if you game a lot and want to maximize FPS, then overclocking would do that for you.
Doesn't have anything to do with 4g speed afaik. That's entirely reception.
Yeah 4g is about reception and tmobile simply.
I mean I had single core devices like MT4g ,SGS 4g for the most part on a day to day basis transitions to transitions theres not much diffirence in terms of speed. Now for FPS and a few other games you need that dual core.Point is there"s no need to OC a dual core phone!
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I have had mine OC'd to 1.1 ghz with some undervolts. It is very stable , 10-12 hr battery with medium to heavy use , and ofcourse fast. Took a while to find the best settings.
When I have SetCPU set to 1015 megahertz, that's the same as stock voltage, isn't it?
NekoNyapii said:
When I have SetCPU set to 1015 megahertz, that's the same as stock voltage, isn't it?
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What does CPU speed have to do with voltage?
theking_13 said:
What does CPU speed have to do with voltage?
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I meant the same as stock speed.
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setcpu phone overclocking
Changes you might see are battery life but not that much unless you so how mess with voltage. Like other have said you know it effecting stability when its overheating, shutting down randomly, exiting program randomly.