Hey community, I'm having a personal dilemma that I'm hoping you guys can help me solve. I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to ask these kinds of questions but it's been bugging me for a while. Why would someone choose ART over XPOSED? Is the speed worth the loss of features in all honest? Like if it's significantly faster, how come everyone doesn't do it?
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ART and xposed are not a choice, ART and Dalvik are.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/13/dalvik-vs-art
http://www.androidauthority.com/art-vs-dalvik-315874/
http://www.addictivetips.com/android/art-vs-dalvik-android-runtime-environments-explained-compared/
I use dalvik because I want xposed and I "personally" do not notice a speed difference. You can click on "xposed framework" in my signature to learn about xposed.
mistahseller said:
ART and xposed are not a choice, ART and Dalvik are.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/13/dalvik-vs-art
http://www.androidauthority.com/art-vs-dalvik-315874/
http://www.addictivetips.com/android/art-vs-dalvik-android-runtime-environments-explained-compared/
I use dalvik because I want xposed and I "personally" do not notice a speed difference. You can click on "xposed framework" in my signature to learn about xposed.
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Pretty sure that's what the OP meant: ART or Xposed (and hence by default, Dalvik).
I am also using Dalvik because there's Xposed modules I don't want to give up. Also, I want to give myself 'somewhere to go' when (inevitably, as has happened on all my past devices) I become unhappy with the performance of the phone.
what i want to know is why would you ever chose xposed? you see what i mean yet? not everybody thinks xposed is useful or good, i dont. i see people complaining about small weird bugs all the time, that turn out to be caused by xposed. i chose dalvik anyways, using the z2 dalvik, but xposed has absolutely no intetest to me personally.
Never cared for xposed not my cup o tea.
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what i want to know is why would you ever chose xposed? you see what i mean yet? not everybody thinks xposed is useful or good, i dont. i see people complaining about small weird bugs all the time, that turn out to be caused by xposed. i chose dalvik anyways, using the z2 dalvik, but xposed has absolutely no intetest to me personally.
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obviously OP does
You might reference this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...dicated-runtime-thread-art-vs-dalvik-t2516646
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yup. but i was answering the ops question, as he cant see why someone would chose art over xposed. i was explaining to him that not everyone likes xposed nor thinks its a good thing.
I've been using xposed, in particular gravitybox since I got the N5. I see not real reason to go with ART and lose the functionality of gb. I've never had any "weird" issues with xposed or gb at all. What real benefit would I get from ART? gb provides me with features that make my life comfortable, then add holio I'm an xposed fan.
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what i want to know is why would you ever chose xposed? you see what i mean yet? not everybody thinks xposed is useful or good, i dont. i see people complaining about small weird bugs all the time, that turn out to be caused by xposed. i chose dalvik anyways, using the z2 dalvik, but xposed has absolutely no intetest to me personally.
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I use Xposed with GravityBox and I love the granular controls and features it gives me that stock Android lacks without having to flash a custom ROM. I haven't had any major issues, only a few small quirks that were addressed with a GravityBox update. Admittedly, GravityBox is the only module I'm using, but if people are having issues with Xposed, it's possible that they're using multiple modules that are conflicting with one another or the modules are conflicting with their custom ROM. Aren't many of the modules designed specifically for stock ROM? Not to mention the modules are designed by different developers than Xposed.
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... having issues with Xposed, it's possible that they're using multiple modules that are conflicting with one another ... the modules are designed by different developers than Xposed.
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Good point.
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Hi, I've had my nexus 5 for around 2 weeks now and I'm loving it, I've got franco kernel flashed onto it using setcpu having all 4 cores at 2.3ghz most the time as a flawless UI interaction is a must for me.
I'm also running xposed framework with gravity box. Gravity box is the best thing ever! I'm using most it features. However, I really want to use ART for the adding battery life and speed but it is not compatible... So my question is, Is there a way to have all the great features that gravity box provides but also use ART?
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Hi, I've had my nexus 5 for around 2 weeks now and I'm loving it, I've got franco kernel flashed onto it using setcpu having all 4 cores at 2.3ghz most the time as a flawless UI interaction is a must for me.
I'm also running xposed framework with gravity box. Gravity box is the best thing ever! I'm using most it features. However, I really want to use ART for the adding battery life and speed but it is not compatible... So my question is, Is there a way to have all the great features that gravity box provides but also use ART?
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Not that I am aware of... regarding speed: have you tried the Qualcomm Optimizations? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art. Most ROMs are already built with their own optimizations and there's quite a few ROMs have art optimized. Vanir is one that comes off the top of my head.
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Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art.
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That seems a little harsh. There's no harm in flashing them.
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That seems a little harsh. There's no harm in flashing them.
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Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Not sure this is exactly true. Used those optimized dalvik and uses art on my N4 and N5 with non of what you said happening ..where are you getting g your information? I'd like to read into it more.
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Jsparta26 said:
Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Hi,
There is not a single issue like you describe for the Nexus 5, even on CM based rom (since a few months now, the Nexus 5 thread has been updated), you should read closely the thread before make these kind of statement, see below (and the Nexus 4 FAQ)...
I personnaly tested to flash what you say on different rom and there is no bootloop, take a look at my posts, for example, in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47709067, it's about the Dalvik and Bionic patches for the N5.
Not sure what you have done to have this on the N5 and not sure what you have experimented on the N5, but not that much in my opinion...
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If by Gravity Box u mean you want customizable quick toggles and battery icon like me then you can use Cataclysm rom with ART and those features are built in and it's stock rom (ish)
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Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art. Most ROMs are already built with their own optimizations and there's quite a few ROMs have art optimized. Vanir is one that comes off the top of my head.
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Many people are using these optimisations on the N5. They're flashing them from the N5 forum thread though. Obviously the Dalvik does nothing if you're on ART, but the bionic does and works fine. ALthough OP wants to run GravityBox and there is no way to do this using ART so this should makle the device feel more ART like with Dalvik,.
However, Personally I fouind these mods made Battery worse, not better. Just made the device a little snappier, closer to ART.
I prefer Dalvik without these mods.
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Hi,
There is not a single issue like you describe for the Nexus 5, even on CM based rom (since a few months now, the Nexus 5 thread has been updated), you should read closely the thread before make these kind of statement, see below (and the Nexus 4 FAQ)...
I personnaly tested to flash what you say on different rom and there is no bootloop, take a look at my posts, for example, in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47709067, it's about the Dalvik and Bionic patches for the N5.
Not sure what you have done to have this on the N5 and not sure what you have experimented on the N5, but not that much in my opinion...
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OK download grand theft auto San Andreas with those bionic and dalvik files flashed and see if you can play it. It will force close. Like I I said. I wouldn't post this if this didn't happen to me. I flashed those on top of my cm ROM and that's what happened. Yes I hold true to my statement. You guys can flash whatever you want but I'm just saying from experience. Its my opinion but they aren't even necessary. I mean I see these warnings about gravity box and these files that the op states not flash on top using art or use. We all have our opinions. Please by all means flash away. I did take a look at it. It says flash only the bionic part if you plan on using art. So yeah I believe that flashing both the files and switching to art can cause the non boots and some apps not to run.
So my bad. I'm going on info that was a week old. January 8th which nearly two weeks ago. BTW bionic only makes math algorithms faster. Honestly you cannot seriously tell me these are 100% proof to work with no issues.
@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime, see feedback in the thread I linked...
Sorry but maybe there is something else (another mod or...) in your side...
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@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime
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Same here. Or at least it doesn't force close any more than normal. I find GTA force closes without the Dalvik and Bionic patches too.
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@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime, see feedback in the thread I linked...
Sorry but maybe there is something else (another mod or...) in your side...
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Ok. Its weird. I don't have any mods flashed. Just the ROM. The pa gapps, Franco kernel and these files. I'll see what I did. Thanks guys.
To answer the OP question. You can flash a rom that has built in customizations that will work on ART. However Gravity Box and other mods that use the framework will not work on Art.
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Ok. Its weird. I don't have any mods flashed. Just the ROM. The pa gapps, Franco kernel and these files. I'll see what I did. Thanks guys.
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So.. all of the imminent death to my phone by using these dalvik and Bionic libraries was just because you couldn't play a game so that's what you assumed?
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PJcastaldo said:
To answer the OP question. You can flash a rom that has built in customizations that will work on ART. However Gravity Box and other mods that use the framework will not work on Art.
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So.. all of the imminent death to my phone by using these dalvik and Bionic libraries was just because you couldn't play a game so that's what you assumed?
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Cheers, I think this may be the best solution. I've been told Cataclysm has all the same features as gravity box and works with ART so I'm going to try that out, I'll let you know how it is.
nexus_roadhouse said:
Cheers, I think this may be the best solution. I've been told Cataclysm has all the same features as gravity box and works with ART so I'm going to try that out, I'll let you know how it is.
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Gravity Box and Cataclysm don't have the SAME features, although there are many that do overlap. Their respective threads have a good rundown of the features they provide, so I'd take a look and compare. Using Cataclysm is a good compromise if you want to take advantage of ART. But I've said this before, the advantages that ART brings outweighs the additional features of Gravity Box in my opinion.
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Gravity Box and Cataclysm don't have the SAME features, although there are many that do overlap. Their respective threads have a good rundown of the features they provide, so I'd take a look and compare. Using Cataclysm is a good compromise if you want to take advantage of ART. But I've said this before, the advantages that ART brings outweighs the additional features of Gravity Box in my opinion.
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I've removed xposed framework and installed cataclysm now, i'm loving how snappy the interface is with ART i don't know how i ever lived without it! Although i am a bit annoyed that i've lost some of my apps, tried to use helium backuper but it didn't let me restore my apps... Guess i'll just have to re-download monopoly, and start from scratch on candy crush! I would say there's only two things i miss from gravity box that cataclysm doesn't provide, that is the download speed on the status bar (although you can see it in the toggles) and having my volume down enable flash light on lockscreen.
To be honest.. ART isn't really that fast compared to the dalvik runtime. Granted its 100% perception and opinion.
To me the extremely small performance jump you gain isn't worth the loss of some apps or features. I see it as when it ready to be used it will be default and the ONLY reason its even there now is for developers to get their apps ready.
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why do you people want to have lollipop where exposed doesn't support on art?
do you think will we get exposed framework for L in future?
i can't think about Android without exposed because my all favorite apps needs exposed to work
anyway is there any alternative of exposed??
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mohinu2 said:
why do you people want to have lollipop where exposed doesn't support on art?
do you think will we get exposed framework for L in future?
i can't think about Android without exposed because my all favorite apps needs exposed to work
anyway is there any alternative of exposed??
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Well because of the improved performance and the much hyped material design people are mad for android L. And yeah, developers of xpose are trying to make it compatible with art compiler so you can expect xposed framework to compatible with L in a month or so.
Don't just say thanks press thanks.
Is there anyone else discouraged that Xposed will not work with Touchwiz and ART?
I want the S6 but absolutely love Xposed framework.
Thoughts?
Xposed works with ART on Android 5.0. It doesn't work with 5.1 though, and I have no idea if it works with Touchwiz.
Personally, I never used Xposed so this isn't an issue for me.
abdielol said:
Xposed works with ART on Android 5.0. It doesn't work with 5.1 though, and I have no idea if it works with Touchwiz.
Personally, I never used Xposed so this isn't an issue for me.
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Interesting, I knew it worked with Lollipop but not touchwiz. Thanks
The Xposed Framework has nothing to do with TouchWiz specifically.
I used Xposed on my S4, S5, Note 3 and Note 4. The Lollipop version of Xposed will work on the S6 just as it does with the above-mentioned phones with their Lollipop firmware.
That said, whether or not Wanam will create an Xposed module for TouchWiz-specific modifications for the S6 is a different story. I think I read that he was done with Samsung after the S5.
At the moment Xposed for Lollipop doesn't work with Samsung ROMs. rovo is looking into it but no ETA.
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At the moment Xposed for Lollipop doesn't work with Samsung ROMs. rovo is looking into it but no ETA.
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Damn, how do I survive youtube without adaway? lol
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Damn, how do I survive youtube without adaway? lol
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You don't need Xposed for AdAway.. Root suffices.
How will i live without Snapprefs :crying:
Lol flash any aosp rom when available for S6 then xposed will work again
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You don't need Xposed for AdAway.. Root suffices.
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YouTube adaway!
Xposed for S6 and S6 Edge
Fellow android addicts,
Does anyone know if Xposed (and modules) are ready for the S6 yet? Xposed modules are taken for granted until they are gone......
HELP.
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You don't need Xposed for AdAway.. Root suffices.
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I tried and unfortunately it doesn't work I still see ads in youtube app and the youtube adaway app says it needs xposed framework in order for it to work...
So yeah..how I'm gonna live without Xposed....How???
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Fellow android addicts,
Does anyone know if Xposed (and modules) are ready for the S6 yet? Xposed modules are taken for granted until they are gone......
HELP.
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So so true.
Unfortunately I will not root or flash another ROM on my S6 so early in on the game due to warranty issues as this is a rather costly device to have as a brick.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve
Been using Xposed for ages on other devices and just love the freedom it gives you. Not advertising but out of experience two good apps for Xposed are amplify and greenify, with a bit of tweaking I think these apps and the efficiency of lollipop one can squeeze hours extra out of the S6.
Has Xposed ever been made to work on previous Galaxy phones?
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Has Xposed ever been made to work on previous Galaxy phones?
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Yes. with rooted stock firmware.
kimkara said:
Yes. with rooted stock firmware.
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SWEEEET! I wasn't aware of this. So there's hope! I have been missing Xposed!
Japultra said:
SWEEEET! I wasn't aware of this. So there's hope! I have been missing Xposed!
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if memory serves there is even a module for tweaking touchwiz.
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if memory serves there is even a module for tweaking touchwiz.
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I'd love to get rid of that S Finder / Quick Connect bar. Useless!
Other tweaks I'd love would be to
1) change tracks by long pressing the volume buttons
2) Switch to last app by long pressing back button
The small things can really affect the user experience.
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I'd love to get rid of that S Finder / Quick Connect bar. Useless!
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This is the one thing that I absolutely HATE about the S6.
Holy freaking hell, who could possibly ever WANT that on their phone?
It takes up so much of the damn notification bar (which is already very space limited by touchwiz GUI being so large) and they don't provide a way to get rid of it?
Wow Samsung.. Just WOW!
Stevles said:
This is the one thing that I absolutely HATE about the S6.
Holy freaking hell, who could possibly ever WANT that on their phone?
It takes up so much of the damn notification bar (which is already very space limited by touchwiz GUI being so large) and they don't provide a way to get rid of it?
Wow Samsung.. Just WOW!
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I'm so glad the att variant doesn't have that...although there is the persistent wifi notification. ...one inch under the wifi toggle that also tells me what router I'm connected to.
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I'm rooted on stock with twrp, wanted to install some tweaks for the reboot menu and status bar and I know we need xposed for it.
Can anyone guide me as to how to install it? I've read tutorials but wanted to ask the people here. I'm new to this phone.
Much thanks
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
Use ARM/SDK23 for the Galaxy S5.
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good info, im just not sure why people use xposed as opposed to a custom ROM with the features that theyre looking for baked into the ROM
Because sometimes, there are many things "cooked", and if I need 1 or 2 mods, then I don't need to deal with all the bugs that came with custom ROMs.
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csmasn said:
Because sometimes, there are many things "cooked", and if I need 1 or 2 mods, then I don't need to deal with all the bugs that came with custom ROMs.
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thats pretty fair, but i dont really get many (if any) bugs with custom ROMsif installed correctly. Im not bashing xposed, i just think that custom ROMs are the way to go for my taste
plus, in my experience, using xposed on a stock rom is better, you don't have to deal with any bugs
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plus, in my experience, using xposed on a stock rom is better, you don't have to deal with any bugs
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right on, im glad that it worked well for you! ive had quite the opposite experience with xposed, maybe its just user error tho
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right on, im glad that it worked well for you! ive had quite the opposite experience with xposed, maybe its just user error tho
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It can screw things up fast and often! Haha. I use XPosed purely for boot manager and greenify. Those are safe on any rom. Unfortunately there are so many modules you can use on your phone that aren't meant for it. If you're not happy to screw things up to learn what works than it can be a huge headache. Lol. I gave up screwing with many of the modules. Oh. I also use it for no ads and background play for YouTube.
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It can screw things up fast and often! Haha. I use XPosed purely for boot manager and greenify. Those are safe on any rom. Unfortunately there are so many modules you can use on your phone that aren't meant for it. If you're not happy to screw things up to learn what works than it can be a huge headache. Lol. I gave up screwing with many of the modules. Oh. I also use it for no ads and background play for YouTube.
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man, i havent had a stock ROM in so long, im not sure where id even start LOL
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man, i havent had a stock ROM in so long, im not sure where id even start LOL
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I keep it purely for camera quality. I've yet to see a custom rom that compares.
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I keep it purely for camera quality. I've yet to see a custom rom that compares.
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one of a few things i miss about touchwiz
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one of a few things i miss about touchwiz
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You're using it on stock? How does it improve the camera quality?
As I've seen... I'm using the s5 for a second phone while my first is a note 5 which is the best phone I've used, after I had to give away my note 7.
And also that the camera on the s5 is not bad either... I just don't like it when it asks me to hold the device steady while it's taking a photo...
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And also that the camera on the s5 is not bad either... I just don't like it when it asks me to hold the device steady while it's taking a photo...
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no, im on resurrection remix nowadays and very much miss the TW camera. I ran MOAR for over a year and wanted to try out the AOSP ROMs that everyone was ranting about, and i rather enjoy several things about RR, but the camera is rather lackluster on AOSP. TW ROMs have access to the stock Samsung camera, which is awesome!! I really havent found much that just WOWs me about AOSP vs MOAR other than the fact that MOAR isnt being updated anymore (yes, you jsut witnessed someone remind themselves about why they decided on something that they had totally forgotten LoL) I spent a little time finding out if one could port the stock TW cam to AOSP, but apparently its not possible
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no, im on resurrection remix nowadays and very much miss the TW camera. I ran MOAR for over a year and wanted to try out the AOSP ROMs that everyone was ranting about, and i rather enjoy several things about RR, but the camera is rather lackluster on AOSP. TW ROMs have access to the stock Samsung camera, which is awesome!! I really havent found much that just WOWs me about AOSP vs MOAR other than the fact that MOAR isnt being updated anymore (yes, you jsut witnessed someone remind themselves about why they decided on something that they had totally forgotten LoL) I spent a little time finding out if one could port the stock TW cam to AOSP, but apparently its not possible
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Have you used flat style bar indicators? It doesn't seem to work properly. The issue that I'm having is that it won't show the data icon even when I'm connected...
I want to change the look of the status bar... Any suggestions?
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Have you used flat style bar indicators? It doesn't seem to work properly. The issue that I'm having is that it won't show the data icon even when I'm connected...
I want to change the look of the status bar... Any suggestions?
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not really, if youre running a stock ROM because it takes an xposed module to do it and im just too unfamiliar with those to be of any help
ht tps://blogs.sonymobile.com/2018/10/18/22587/
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thank's @xzpremium1976 https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2018/10/18/android-9-pie-update-on-more-xperia-devices/
no Xposed, no upgrade for me
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no Xposed, no upgrade for me
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So you wait for Android 10 to get Xposed on Android 9? lol
I gived Up waiting for Things like that. Besides that SONY maked it hard to get it working is there nothing that great what makes worth the waiting. Xposed is abdoned by many Developers and so are 90% of the Modules.
Don't wait for Xposed. The SONY Update is more important in many Views... And don't forget the Security Updates...
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So you wait for Android 10 to get Xposed on Android 9? lol
I gived Up waiting for Things like that. Besides that SONY maked it hard to get it working is there nothing that great what makes worth the waiting. Xposed is abdoned by many Developers and so are 90% of the Modules.
Don't wait for Xposed. The SONY Update is more important in many Views... And don't forget the Security Updates...
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I only wish to have xz2 fonctions work on xzp and root to increase the screen colours
SilverGamer_YT said:
I only wish to have xz2 fonctions work on xzp and root to increase the screen colours
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Maybe we will get them
I mean, the Z2 got also the Camera from the XZ3 with the update...so I hope on some new functions *_*
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So you wait for Android 10 to get Xposed on Android 9? lol
I gived Up waiting for Things like that. Besides that SONY maked it hard to get it working is there nothing that great what makes worth the waiting. Xposed is abdoned by many Developers and so are 90% of the Modules.
Don't wait for Xposed. The SONY Update is more important in many Views... And don't forget the Security Updates...
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You do realize that not everyone is the same as you and wants the same things as you? Don't push your wants and needs onto other people, I'm waiting for Xposed as well because it's essential to me and many others.
"Xposed is abdoned by many Developers and so are 90% of the Modules."
Also: lol
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You do realize that not everyone is the same as you and wants the same things as you? Don't push your wants and needs onto other people, I'm waiting for Xposed as well because it's essential to me and many others.
"Xposed is abdoned by many Developers and so are 90% of the Modules."
Also: lol
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Much fun waiting for it! Hahaha How many People still use Xposed btw? Like 0,1% of the Android Users Worldwide? Just flash AOSP and You will don't need Xposed anymore
Also: lol "Xposed Essential"
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Much fun waiting for it! Hahaha How many People still use Xposed btw? Like 0,1% of the Android Users Worldwide? Just flash AOSP and You will don't need Xposed anymore
Also: lol "Xposed Essential"
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I agree with this, Xposed is kind off umm essentially dead at this point ever since it started to break checks
LukeyWolf said:
I agree with this, Xposed is kind off umm essentially dead at this point ever since it started to break checks
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What 'checks' has xposed suddenly started breaking? Safety net? Xposed always broke it.
@Miustone
Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one or knows one. No one is right or wrong in this argument. I use xposed to modify my status bar the way I like it, among other things, Aosp will not change this.
Beetle84 said:
What 'checks' has xposed suddenly started breaking? Safety net? Xposed always broke it.
@Miustone
Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one or knows one. No one is right or wrong in this argument. I use xposed to modify my status bar the way I like it, among other things, Aosp will not change this.
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AOSP can change more as Xposed could ever do. Just take a Look on RR, AE or LOS ROMs. While RR is based on LOS does it have a lot of Options you will never find in any Xposed Module. AE is based on pure AOSP, more Clean as RR (since based on AOSP) but also giving more Options compared to LOS or Gravity Box for a Xposed example.
LOS is simple and secure. You can totally Control Your Device besides Essential modifying of the UI. Xposed is and was Something for People like the ones who just where able to get Root with locked Bootloaders. Unlocked Device = AOSP
AND, Yes. Safety Net. Xposed triggers it. Xposed was available long before the Security Changes Google did, to make Android a secure and mature OS. But it's now part of Android and WE can't Change that fact. So we can live with Systemless stuff like Magisk and the Modules for it. Or use Xposed and don't be able to use a bunch of popular Apps on Your daily used Device.
It should be clear that Xposed is almost dead, sooner or later (since it can never Go Systemless). AOSP just bring's all the Xposed goodies without breaking safety Net. Same for the Patches i do. I would never force anyone to Trigger the Safety Net Check. For a good Reason.
Peace ?
I have been using xposed since 2012, when I still had a docomo ics phone, no upgrade for me. Oreo is fast enough. Im still using kitkat because after 5.0 ipc binder was introduced, apps can steal data from other apps, mostly google services (thats why some apps wont function without gapps). Most likely ill sell both my xz and z3 and get z3 tablet with sim function. Safety is bull.
Virtual Xposed for Andorid 9.0 could make some basic Xposed modules work on the new update.
hasaan6545 said:
Virtual Xposed for Andorid 9.0 could make some basic Xposed modules work on the new update.
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Nop most apps force close.
Did anybody in the us get the update?
IS33D34DP30PL3 said:
Did anybody in the us get the update?
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Nobody will get the update before next week, if then.
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AOSP can change more as Xposed could ever do.
It should be clear that Xposed is almost dead, sooner or later (since it can never Go Systemless). AOSP just bring's all the Xposed goodies without breaking safety Net.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This is clearly satire, right?
Atrax2010 said:
Nobody will get the update before next week, if then.
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;-;
Atrax2010 said:
Nobody will get the update before next week, if then.
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OR the next next week !!! Grrrrrrr !!!!
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OR the next next week !!! Grrrrrrr !!!!
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Yeah, I'd personally place my bet on it being released in November, the same time the XZ2 lineup gets it.
It doesn't matter, really, what matters is XZP gets Pie at all, whenever, which still might not happen. Like with the Z3 and Nougat situation...
Tbh, I don't even care about the android version, I'm just hoping that with the major OS upgrade Sony would also make an extra step of updating the core system apps, like camera for example, which can perform so much better than it does now, it's just a matter of tuning the algorythms and software calibration, the hardware is not the issue.
Anyways, just like with all previous updates on my xperias, I'm betting on a better experience, but nothing sensational or drastically improved.
What is most likely to happen is the core OS gets updated and everything else stays the same. Sony basically looses money on each device they sell, it's a miracle we get any updates at all on a two year old device, so yeah, not hoping for much, but it's not like I'm having issues with Oreo or how it works so... Who cares...
Revising an old device takes a lot of money and dev resources, plus you need to attend to new devices. Considering how Sony Mobile is next to unprofitable, as I said, it's a miracle the software support is as good as it is. Next to Pixel, the fastest updates of any other brand.