Hi, I've had my nexus 5 for around 2 weeks now and I'm loving it, I've got franco kernel flashed onto it using setcpu having all 4 cores at 2.3ghz most the time as a flawless UI interaction is a must for me.
I'm also running xposed framework with gravity box. Gravity box is the best thing ever! I'm using most it features. However, I really want to use ART for the adding battery life and speed but it is not compatible... So my question is, Is there a way to have all the great features that gravity box provides but also use ART?
nexus_roadhouse said:
Hi, I've had my nexus 5 for around 2 weeks now and I'm loving it, I've got franco kernel flashed onto it using setcpu having all 4 cores at 2.3ghz most the time as a flawless UI interaction is a must for me.
I'm also running xposed framework with gravity box. Gravity box is the best thing ever! I'm using most it features. However, I really want to use ART for the adding battery life and speed but it is not compatible... So my question is, Is there a way to have all the great features that gravity box provides but also use ART?
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Not that I am aware of... regarding speed: have you tried the Qualcomm Optimizations? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art. Most ROMs are already built with their own optimizations and there's quite a few ROMs have art optimized. Vanir is one that comes off the top of my head.
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Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art.
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That seems a little harsh. There's no harm in flashing them.
maxpower7 said:
That seems a little harsh. There's no harm in flashing them.
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Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Not sure this is exactly true. Used those optimized dalvik and uses art on my N4 and N5 with non of what you said happening ..where are you getting g your information? I'd like to read into it more.
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Jsparta26 said:
Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Hi,
There is not a single issue like you describe for the Nexus 5, even on CM based rom (since a few months now, the Nexus 5 thread has been updated), you should read closely the thread before make these kind of statement, see below (and the Nexus 4 FAQ)...
I personnaly tested to flash what you say on different rom and there is no bootloop, take a look at my posts, for example, in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47709067, it's about the Dalvik and Bionic patches for the N5.
Not sure what you have done to have this on the N5 and not sure what you have experimented on the N5, but not that much in my opinion...
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If by Gravity Box u mean you want customizable quick toggles and battery icon like me then you can use Cataclysm rom with ART and those features are built in and it's stock rom (ish)
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Jsparta26 said:
Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art. Most ROMs are already built with their own optimizations and there's quite a few ROMs have art optimized. Vanir is one that comes off the top of my head.
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Many people are using these optimisations on the N5. They're flashing them from the N5 forum thread though. Obviously the Dalvik does nothing if you're on ART, but the bionic does and works fine. ALthough OP wants to run GravityBox and there is no way to do this using ART so this should makle the device feel more ART like with Dalvik,.
However, Personally I fouind these mods made Battery worse, not better. Just made the device a little snappier, closer to ART.
I prefer Dalvik without these mods.
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Hi,
There is not a single issue like you describe for the Nexus 5, even on CM based rom (since a few months now, the Nexus 5 thread has been updated), you should read closely the thread before make these kind of statement, see below (and the Nexus 4 FAQ)...
I personnaly tested to flash what you say on different rom and there is no bootloop, take a look at my posts, for example, in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47709067, it's about the Dalvik and Bionic patches for the N5.
Not sure what you have done to have this on the N5 and not sure what you have experimented on the N5, but not that much in my opinion...
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OK download grand theft auto San Andreas with those bionic and dalvik files flashed and see if you can play it. It will force close. Like I I said. I wouldn't post this if this didn't happen to me. I flashed those on top of my cm ROM and that's what happened. Yes I hold true to my statement. You guys can flash whatever you want but I'm just saying from experience. Its my opinion but they aren't even necessary. I mean I see these warnings about gravity box and these files that the op states not flash on top using art or use. We all have our opinions. Please by all means flash away. I did take a look at it. It says flash only the bionic part if you plan on using art. So yeah I believe that flashing both the files and switching to art can cause the non boots and some apps not to run.
So my bad. I'm going on info that was a week old. January 8th which nearly two weeks ago. BTW bionic only makes math algorithms faster. Honestly you cannot seriously tell me these are 100% proof to work with no issues.
@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime, see feedback in the thread I linked...
Sorry but maybe there is something else (another mod or...) in your side...
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@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime
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Same here. Or at least it doesn't force close any more than normal. I find GTA force closes without the Dalvik and Bionic patches too.
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@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime, see feedback in the thread I linked...
Sorry but maybe there is something else (another mod or...) in your side...
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Ok. Its weird. I don't have any mods flashed. Just the ROM. The pa gapps, Franco kernel and these files. I'll see what I did. Thanks guys.
To answer the OP question. You can flash a rom that has built in customizations that will work on ART. However Gravity Box and other mods that use the framework will not work on Art.
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Jsparta26 said:
Ok. Its weird. I don't have any mods flashed. Just the ROM. The pa gapps, Franco kernel and these files. I'll see what I did. Thanks guys.
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So.. all of the imminent death to my phone by using these dalvik and Bionic libraries was just because you couldn't play a game so that's what you assumed?
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To answer the OP question. You can flash a rom that has built in customizations that will work on ART. However Gravity Box and other mods that use the framework will not work on Art.
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So.. all of the imminent death to my phone by using these dalvik and Bionic libraries was just because you couldn't play a game so that's what you assumed?
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Cheers, I think this may be the best solution. I've been told Cataclysm has all the same features as gravity box and works with ART so I'm going to try that out, I'll let you know how it is.
nexus_roadhouse said:
Cheers, I think this may be the best solution. I've been told Cataclysm has all the same features as gravity box and works with ART so I'm going to try that out, I'll let you know how it is.
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Gravity Box and Cataclysm don't have the SAME features, although there are many that do overlap. Their respective threads have a good rundown of the features they provide, so I'd take a look and compare. Using Cataclysm is a good compromise if you want to take advantage of ART. But I've said this before, the advantages that ART brings outweighs the additional features of Gravity Box in my opinion.
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Gravity Box and Cataclysm don't have the SAME features, although there are many that do overlap. Their respective threads have a good rundown of the features they provide, so I'd take a look and compare. Using Cataclysm is a good compromise if you want to take advantage of ART. But I've said this before, the advantages that ART brings outweighs the additional features of Gravity Box in my opinion.
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I've removed xposed framework and installed cataclysm now, i'm loving how snappy the interface is with ART i don't know how i ever lived without it! Although i am a bit annoyed that i've lost some of my apps, tried to use helium backuper but it didn't let me restore my apps... Guess i'll just have to re-download monopoly, and start from scratch on candy crush! I would say there's only two things i miss from gravity box that cataclysm doesn't provide, that is the download speed on the status bar (although you can see it in the toggles) and having my volume down enable flash light on lockscreen.
To be honest.. ART isn't really that fast compared to the dalvik runtime. Granted its 100% perception and opinion.
To me the extremely small performance jump you gain isn't worth the loss of some apps or features. I see it as when it ready to be used it will be default and the ONLY reason its even there now is for developers to get their apps ready.
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....and the last of the group I have been working on....
P.A.C. - Man ROM v22.4.0 &v23.0.0 {HALO}Based off of Jellybean 4.2.2
for the HTC One S from source...brought to you by atrus5
ported to the MyTouch 4G Slide....brought to you by WeekendsR2Short
Paranoid + AOKP + CyanogenMod = PACman
Features• based off of AOSP Jellybean 4.2.2
• latest CM10.1
•latest AOKP
• latest AOSPA (ParanoidAndroid 3.1+)
• all settings from CyanogenMod 10.1, Android Open Kang Project MR1, and AOSPA 2.99+
• PIE navigation controls
• Hybrid Settings
• Per-App Layout
• Per-App Color
• OTA updates
• much more...flash and find outHow to InstallSURELY By Now, You Know How
Check One of My ROMs, Or Go Ask Your MomSpecial Thanks Credit to darknites for headphone fix
Credit to LLegoLLaS for the logo
rmbq for his Bubba Kernel v3.6b
szl.kiev, OldDroid and Team
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Team Kang
ParanoidAndroid TeamVERY Special Thanks....To Atrus5 For His Help In My Aquiring Permission From The Original Developers To Bring This ROM To The DoubleShot
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PacMan v22.4.0GappsPacMan v23.0.0 + {HALO}
...for Justin Kase
The porting machine at his best, eh. This ROM looks so exquisite. Downloading, right, now!
Edit: Lagging frequently, encountering FCs here and there. I guess my phone does not like it as much as I do. But still, great work!
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The porting machine at his best, eh. This ROM looks so exquisite. Downloading, right, now!
Edit: Lagging frequently, encountering FCs here and there. I guess my phone does not like it as much as I do. But still, great work!
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You might install Kernel Tuner & Seeder & once set up she gets REALLY smooth. Also, once I flash Gapps I will go to advanced & wipe Dalvik & set permissions before booting back up. It's always seemed to help tame a rambunctious ROM.
Something else I discovered a couple of ROMs ago is Deep Sleep Battery Saver. I installed it & set it to "Aggressive" & am sitting on 67% at 16 hours with about an hour screen time & an hour phone calls. It DOES work & make a difference.
Porting Machine? LOL :laugh:
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You might install Kernel Tuner & Seeder & once set up she gets REALLY smooth. Also, once I flash Gapps I will go to advanced & wipe Dalvik & set permissions before booting back up. It's always seemed to help tame a rambunctious ROM.
Something else I discovered a couple of ROMs ago is Deep Sleep Battery Saver. I installed it & set it to "Aggressive" & am sitting on 67% at 16 hours with about an hour screen time & an hour phone calls. It DOES work & make a difference.
Porting Machine? LOL :laugh:
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Hmmm didn't know about deep sleep I'll go check that out cause even on my anker I don't be getting those awesome stats like some people on here get.... Then again I do play ff8 a lot on the epsxe emulator
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Hmmm didn't know about deep sleep I'll go check that out cause even on my anker I don't be getting those awesome stats like some people on here get.... Then again I do play ff8 a lot on the epsxe emulator
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Now I'll admit I play very few games but I think you'll still be pleased with it.
Its nice to see pacman got an update.
I swear one of these days I don't have much going on I'm gonna sync and source build a thing or two. But my time is so limited right now.
I almost had sabermod built but said something about missing the makefile and then I got busy so I just trashed that source so I didn't have any hiccups building for the N4.
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Strapped, that is the very one I ALMOST installed on the wife's Nexus Sunday. But I opted for RootBox at the last minute since it was several versions further along than the one I ported. You're going to have to teach me a few things about building from source too. I've decided to take my desktop & make it a dedicated build server here REAL soon. It can sit in the bedroom & compile away while I'm messing with the laptop.
How's the kernel experimentation been going?
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Strapped, that is the very one I ALMOST installed on the wife's Nexus Sunday. But I opted for RootBox at the last minute since it was several versions further along than the one I ported. You're going to have to teach me a few things about building from source too. I've decided to take my desktop & make it a dedicated build server here REAL soon. It can sit in the bedroom & compile away while I'm messing with the laptop.
How's the kernel experimentation been going?
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Well SaberMOD is one of the top optimized ROMs we mako users have, along with sparksco kernel, so usually what I do is just cherry-pick stuff in and compile his kernel with whatever it is I kang elsewhere lol.
Some of the recent cherry-picks broke the compile so I got to keep at it because its adding options visible to the user without interfering with how the kernel performs.
I'm almost out of room on the partition I installed Ubuntu on, so I'm thinking of trying to run it from one of them 1TB portable drives, and never worry again.
Building JellyBean takes a lot of space, hell the source alone is like 10-12GB to download, then there is something about needing 80GB for a set of builds ( I'm guessing multiple devices ) blah blah.
Right now sparksco has blessed us with absolutely everything needed to build, right down to build scripts that you just run, choose a couple options then build.
I mostly find myself just flipping through the source though, looking at the massive amounts of files and trying to get an understanding of how source is structured in terms of where -X- file is located for SystemUI before its built so I can edit source level. Starting small with what's already there and hopefully I can learn way more in the process
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Good Grief it takes a lot of system just to start! I DO have plenty of HD space on the desktop though. I'm going to have to do some research & get more involved VERY soon myself. But at the moment I'm tinkering around with a flashing tool I was given the idea for. I believe it's going to be pretty cool....eventually. LMAO
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The porting machine at his best, eh. ...
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Well put, abe5!
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Hey, Weekends, thanks for another yummy one!
I've got two other family phones on different versions of PacMan, but this one is even better! I'm having a great time playing with it. I love the "Permissions" menu in "settings," for one.
Sorry to ask, but could you help me find how to turn on the navbar? I found a lot of navbar settings, but there's no "Enable Bar" check box/button/radio.
I also found a problem that probably dates back a long time. At least I remember having it in ROMs I tried a long time ago: "Settings > Storage" FCs. I believe there was no cure, but there were workarounds.
I haven't loaded it up with all the apps I usually do, but so far it's great. After wiping, fixing permissions, booting between flashes, etc., I've had no problems at all.
Again, THANK YOU!
(I'm also having a heck of a time reading the small fonts on the settings menus. But, then again, that's why God invented optometrists!)
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Its nice to see pacman got an update....
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Hey Strapped, good to hear from you!
It's been a while.
LOL! ME TOO! My eyes aren't as young as they used to be and that about the only thing I DON'T like about the Paranoid side of PACMan. I set my font to huge & just grin and bear it bro. You can get some bigger in the apps by tinkering with the dpi but the internal functions seem to be a bit different since the default is a tablet format. I COULD be wrong though But am still playing around with it too.
As the Storage function goes, I've always written that one off as one of the things that AOPK & CM10.1 can't agree on & they just say the heck with it. If you CAN find a workaround...or if I do...Let's please share it & I'll serve it up in the OP.
Let me check on the NavBar thing.....
After taking an in depth look myself, I can't find it either Jesterfell. But it could be that it just wasn't put in there because it conflicted somehow with pie. It DOES work really well in this one so you might just use that as your replacement. I COULD make you a flashable fix that will put that line of code into build.prop that activates the NavBar. OR, you could add it yourself. Your call buddy....just let me know.
Tried this ROM today
Gotta say, i dont like that side of paranoid too xD
Well, besides that i personally didnt find any glitches so far, but somehow i dont like the ROM itselve at all :/
Thanks for the port though, could take a peek xD
Back to your samsung port
Maybe in some weeks ill try sense again but till then, either its your new ports if you make some, or your samsung port
Greets Vauvenal7
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... about the only thing I DON'T like about the Paranoid side of PACMan...
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Same here! Love all the settings, but sometimes just can't read them to know WHAT I'm setting! With Paranoid, I always found that when I improved the readability of settings, I distorted something else.
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... it could be that it just wasn't put in there because it conflicted somehow with pie. It DOES work really well in this one so you might just use that as your replacement ...
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Now that you mention it, I do remember reading that PIE had to be turned off for the navbar to work. I didn't find a way to do that either--probably a compromise choice had to be made to leave both settings out.
Embarrassingly, I forget PIE is there, LOL! Another problem is that, after a while of use, I somehow managed to get it to rotate counterclockwise just enough so that the "BACK" button is off the screen. I don't think that should even be possible!?
Then again, I did manage to turn OFF the search button in pie by checking the settings box as if I wanted to turn it ON!
I did remember an old workaround that's doing the job for now: I re-mapped the "SEARCH" hard key as another "BACK" key.
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... I COULD make you a flashable fix that will put that line of code into build.prop that activates the NavBar. OR, you could add it yourself. Your call buddy....just let me know.
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Thanks, Weekends. I appreciate the offer.
I tried the "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" line, but it didn't do anything. Is there another mod for navbar?
Like I said, though, it's still too much fun to put down--especially now that I've got my wife's phone to play with. That still leaves mine as the DD!
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...As the Storage function goes, I've always written that one off as one of the things that AOPK & CM10.1 can't agree on & they just say the heck with it. If you CAN find a workaround...or if I do...Let's please share it & I'll serve it up in the OP....
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I can't find my notes on it, but thinking back on it, I don't think there was a real workaround. It was just a way to turn on USB storage by tapping the "USB connected" bar in notifications, and choosing storage there.
Now I can't even find a "USB connected" notification! There's a debugging notice, but no connected one... I really have to learn to stop changing things BEFORE I break something!
Which clock app does this one have? I love the one on all of the other apps and was a bit disappointed this one didn't have the one I'm used to. Can anyone post a screenshot?
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Which clock app does this one have? I love the one on all of the other apps and was a bit disappointed this one didn't have the one I'm used to. Can anyone post a screenshot?
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I'd say you could download the one you like best. The "cLock" one is the one that comes with it (see 1st screenshot) The others are from "one more clock" which I downloaded. But they just scratch the surface of the over 30 that you can choose from.
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I'd say you could download the one you like best. The "cLock" one is the one that comes with it (see 1st screenshot) The others are from "one more clock" which I downloaded. But they just scratch the surface of the over 30 that you can choose from.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I meant the Android Clock/Alarm app, not the widgets. You know where you set your alarms...
Looks like the same one that I've been used to seeing Rory.
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Looks like the same one that I've been used to seeing Rory.
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Oh excellent! That wasn't in the last version for whatever reason. How about the option to add a little AM/PM to the clock on the notification bar. Yes, I am neurotic!
I saw the video and I am so fascinated about it. I would like to install it in my nexus 5 without needs to flash the beta aospa.
You're gonna have to flash a rom. It probably won't be ported to an app.
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You're gonna have to flash a rom. It probably won't be ported to an app.
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Why not?
OmniSwitch has been ported into OmniSwitch for instance.
However Peek isn't stable yet including important wakelocks atm.
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Why not?
OmniSwitch has been ported into OmniSwitch for instance.
However Peek isn't stable yet including important wakelocks atm.
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that's true, but then again it might be like PA's Halo. Simply just not portable.
but now that i've though about it, perhaps it MIGHT be possible.
May be try using a similar app like AcDisplay ?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641557
Did you see this app as well? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aky.peek.notification
Check this out, https://plus.google.com/+ZheLu/posts/1fX9ASFMeSD
Didn't work on my note 2 with 4.4.2.
Yep. Not sure if its what vin4yak posted coz it wouldn't load, but yeh this worked for me.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3FBe0bcP9MeeGQ4ZWlaNDZyWjQ/preview
Original Post here:
https://plus.google.com/106578573994597852275/posts/1fX9ASFMeSD
Although I recommend AcDisplay, much better IMO.
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Hey community, I'm having a personal dilemma that I'm hoping you guys can help me solve. I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to ask these kinds of questions but it's been bugging me for a while. Why would someone choose ART over XPOSED? Is the speed worth the loss of features in all honest? Like if it's significantly faster, how come everyone doesn't do it?
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ART and xposed are not a choice, ART and Dalvik are.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/13/dalvik-vs-art
http://www.androidauthority.com/art-vs-dalvik-315874/
http://www.addictivetips.com/android/art-vs-dalvik-android-runtime-environments-explained-compared/
I use dalvik because I want xposed and I "personally" do not notice a speed difference. You can click on "xposed framework" in my signature to learn about xposed.
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ART and xposed are not a choice, ART and Dalvik are.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/13/dalvik-vs-art
http://www.androidauthority.com/art-vs-dalvik-315874/
http://www.addictivetips.com/android/art-vs-dalvik-android-runtime-environments-explained-compared/
I use dalvik because I want xposed and I "personally" do not notice a speed difference. You can click on "xposed framework" in my signature to learn about xposed.
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Pretty sure that's what the OP meant: ART or Xposed (and hence by default, Dalvik).
I am also using Dalvik because there's Xposed modules I don't want to give up. Also, I want to give myself 'somewhere to go' when (inevitably, as has happened on all my past devices) I become unhappy with the performance of the phone.
what i want to know is why would you ever chose xposed? you see what i mean yet? not everybody thinks xposed is useful or good, i dont. i see people complaining about small weird bugs all the time, that turn out to be caused by xposed. i chose dalvik anyways, using the z2 dalvik, but xposed has absolutely no intetest to me personally.
Never cared for xposed not my cup o tea.
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what i want to know is why would you ever chose xposed? you see what i mean yet? not everybody thinks xposed is useful or good, i dont. i see people complaining about small weird bugs all the time, that turn out to be caused by xposed. i chose dalvik anyways, using the z2 dalvik, but xposed has absolutely no intetest to me personally.
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obviously OP does
You might reference this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...dicated-runtime-thread-art-vs-dalvik-t2516646
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yup. but i was answering the ops question, as he cant see why someone would chose art over xposed. i was explaining to him that not everyone likes xposed nor thinks its a good thing.
I've been using xposed, in particular gravitybox since I got the N5. I see not real reason to go with ART and lose the functionality of gb. I've never had any "weird" issues with xposed or gb at all. What real benefit would I get from ART? gb provides me with features that make my life comfortable, then add holio I'm an xposed fan.
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what i want to know is why would you ever chose xposed? you see what i mean yet? not everybody thinks xposed is useful or good, i dont. i see people complaining about small weird bugs all the time, that turn out to be caused by xposed. i chose dalvik anyways, using the z2 dalvik, but xposed has absolutely no intetest to me personally.
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I use Xposed with GravityBox and I love the granular controls and features it gives me that stock Android lacks without having to flash a custom ROM. I haven't had any major issues, only a few small quirks that were addressed with a GravityBox update. Admittedly, GravityBox is the only module I'm using, but if people are having issues with Xposed, it's possible that they're using multiple modules that are conflicting with one another or the modules are conflicting with their custom ROM. Aren't many of the modules designed specifically for stock ROM? Not to mention the modules are designed by different developers than Xposed.
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... having issues with Xposed, it's possible that they're using multiple modules that are conflicting with one another ... the modules are designed by different developers than Xposed.
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Good point.
I know these types of threads aren't exactly condoned, but I have a trip tomorrow and I can't exactly try out a lot ROMs right now. I'm currently running Paranoid Android, and while I love it, I'm looking for the following features-
-ART compatible (I know a lot of CM based ROMs had this broken recently)
-Lockscreen notifications (not Peek or Active Notifications, something like Carbon/Mahdi's)
-Orderable Quicksettings
-Battery icon with percent (portrait battery icon, just like stock, with the battery percent
-Stock looking. Holo White versions are perfectly ok as well
Anyone know of a ROM that has these features?
1) you're right, these threads compare the work of developers and as such are against forum rules.
2) if there is one piece of advice I could give you, it's do not change ANYTHING right before a trip!
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rootSU said:
1) you're right, these threads compare the work of developers and as such are against forum rules.
2) if there is one piece of advice I could give you, it's do not change ANYTHING right before a trip!
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Is it okay if I'm looking for x set of features (ie nothing subjective, such as battery life/speed or what not). Updated OP with what I mean
Get back from your trip and try some. Flashing something before you go on a trip is not a good idea. Put something stable on that you know is going to work
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jd1639 said:
Get back from your trip and try some. Flashing something before you go on a trip is not a good idea. Put something stable on that you know is going to work
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That's just the thing- I don't really have any stable go-to ROMs with that feature set in mind. Pretty much all I've used is Carbon/Paranoid, and I really missed ART on Carbon, while I missed lockscreen notifications on Paranoid. I was wondering if there were any other ROMs I could quickly try had the feature set.
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That's just the thing- I don't really have any stable go-to ROMs with that feature set in mind. Pretty much all I've used is Carbon/Paranoid, and I really missed ART on Carbon, while I missed lockscreen notifications on Paranoid. I was wondering if there were any other ROMs I could quickly try had the feature set.
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Stock with xposed works great for me
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Stock with xposed works great for me
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Literally the only problem with Xposed for me is no ART. Once you've gone ART, you don't go back XD
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Literally the only problem with Xposed for me is no ART. Once you've gone ART, you don't go back XD
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Art is over rated
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Art works fine on Paranoid Android. What makes you think it doesn't?
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As said, if your phone works now leave it. Or restore a nandroid you liked. But flashing something new then immediately going away is asking for trouble.
If you just want a perfectly stable and functioning phone....flash stock for now.
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Also quick settings are configurable
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Art works fine on Paranoid Android. What makes you think it doesn't?
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It does, but it's missing the lockscreen notifications.
kj2112 said:
As said, if your phone works now leave it. Or restore a nandroid you liked. But flashing something new then immediately going away is asking for trouble.
If you just want a perfectly stable and functioning phone....flash stock for now.
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True... Eh, I have a couple more hours to play with it haha. The trip is a day trip and there will be plenty of people around with phones, so it's not THAT bad if it dies...
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It does, but it's missing the lockscreen notifications.
True... Eh, I have a couple more hours to play with it haha. The trip is a day trip and there will be plenty of people around with phones, so it's not THAT bad if it dies...
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Twisted kat.
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Not positive about art tho....I've never used it. The difference seems too small, if any to me, to worry about it.
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Twisted kat.
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Not positive about art tho....I've never used it. The difference seems too small, if any to me, to worry about it.
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I'm pretty sure PACman ROM has all of those features too.
I just decided to live without lockscreen notifs and use Paranoid for tomorrow haha. Thank you all!
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Any comparison of ROMs is going to get this thread closed, but if you're looking for the basic functionality of GravityBox but with ART, Cataclysm would probably suffice. That being said I wouldn't flash a new ROM right before going on a trip.
I will just leave this here.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-source-code-says-goodbye-to-dalvik-20140619/
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I think thay ART will be the update that Android needs to become an ever better OS, no lag, smooth, faster..
Can't wait!
High hopes that ART will go prime-time when they announce the new Android version tomorrow.
That's all nice, but for the xposed framework customizers...If they roll out a new Android version with Dalvik completely removed. How long will it take rovo to get the framework running on ART, it's not going to be easy or quick...
That is my concern as well.
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That's all nice, but for the xposed framework customizers...If they roll out a new Android version with Dalvik completely removed. How long will it take rovo to get the framework running on ART, it's not going to be easy or quick...
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Once 5.0 hits public release
BerndM14 said:
That's all nice, but for the xposed framework customizers...If they roll out a new Android version with Dalvik completely removed. How long will it take rovo to get the framework running on ART, it's not going to be easy or quick...
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My thoughts also
Really expecting the new version of Android
My Nexus5 has been on ART for awhile and not looking back! Its light, smooth, and fast!
While high-end phones don't (and won't) have much problems regarding performance irregardless of ART or Dalvik, I think it's the mid- to low-end phones that's getting a slight performance boost on ART. Apps open faster but at the cost of 0.10% app data increase, which is the only downside. Still, it's a great thing how Android evolved through the years and Google is really making a good job. :good:
Can't wait for L
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While high-end phones don't (and won't) have much problems regarding performance irregardless of ART or Dalvik, I think it's the mid- to low-end phones that's getting a slight performance boost on ART. Apps open faster but at the cost of 0.10% app data increase, which is the only downside. Still, it's a great thing how Android evolved through the years and Google is really making a good job. :good:
Can't wait for L
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This is true. I can easily ignore the data increase as storage are getting cheaper these days.
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That's all nice, but for the xposed framework customizers...If they roll out a new Android version with Dalvik completely removed. How long will it take rovo to get the framework running on ART, it's not going to be easy or quick...
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Give this a look
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/rovo89-speaks-up-regarding-art-and-android-l-support/
I don't think it will take too long to get a pre-alpha version, but he'll need time to test it before releasing it.