I'm looking for a ROM & Kernel... - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know these types of threads aren't exactly condoned, but I have a trip tomorrow and I can't exactly try out a lot ROMs right now. I'm currently running Paranoid Android, and while I love it, I'm looking for the following features-
-ART compatible (I know a lot of CM based ROMs had this broken recently)
-Lockscreen notifications (not Peek or Active Notifications, something like Carbon/Mahdi's)
-Orderable Quicksettings
-Battery icon with percent (portrait battery icon, just like stock, with the battery percent
-Stock looking. Holo White versions are perfectly ok as well
Anyone know of a ROM that has these features?

1) you're right, these threads compare the work of developers and as such are against forum rules.
2) if there is one piece of advice I could give you, it's do not change ANYTHING right before a trip!
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rootSU said:
1) you're right, these threads compare the work of developers and as such are against forum rules.
2) if there is one piece of advice I could give you, it's do not change ANYTHING right before a trip!
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Is it okay if I'm looking for x set of features (ie nothing subjective, such as battery life/speed or what not). Updated OP with what I mean

Get back from your trip and try some. Flashing something before you go on a trip is not a good idea. Put something stable on that you know is going to work
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jd1639 said:
Get back from your trip and try some. Flashing something before you go on a trip is not a good idea. Put something stable on that you know is going to work
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That's just the thing- I don't really have any stable go-to ROMs with that feature set in mind. Pretty much all I've used is Carbon/Paranoid, and I really missed ART on Carbon, while I missed lockscreen notifications on Paranoid. I was wondering if there were any other ROMs I could quickly try had the feature set.

thattypicalnerd said:
That's just the thing- I don't really have any stable go-to ROMs with that feature set in mind. Pretty much all I've used is Carbon/Paranoid, and I really missed ART on Carbon, while I missed lockscreen notifications on Paranoid. I was wondering if there were any other ROMs I could quickly try had the feature set.
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Stock with xposed works great for me
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jd1639 said:
Stock with xposed works great for me
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Literally the only problem with Xposed for me is no ART. Once you've gone ART, you don't go back XD

thattypicalnerd said:
Literally the only problem with Xposed for me is no ART. Once you've gone ART, you don't go back XD
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Art is over rated
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Art works fine on Paranoid Android. What makes you think it doesn't?
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As said, if your phone works now leave it. Or restore a nandroid you liked. But flashing something new then immediately going away is asking for trouble.
If you just want a perfectly stable and functioning phone....flash stock for now.
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Also quick settings are configurable
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Pirateghost said:
Art works fine on Paranoid Android. What makes you think it doesn't?
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It does, but it's missing the lockscreen notifications.
kj2112 said:
As said, if your phone works now leave it. Or restore a nandroid you liked. But flashing something new then immediately going away is asking for trouble.
If you just want a perfectly stable and functioning phone....flash stock for now.
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True... Eh, I have a couple more hours to play with it haha. The trip is a day trip and there will be plenty of people around with phones, so it's not THAT bad if it dies...

thattypicalnerd said:
It does, but it's missing the lockscreen notifications.
True... Eh, I have a couple more hours to play with it haha. The trip is a day trip and there will be plenty of people around with phones, so it's not THAT bad if it dies...
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Twisted kat.
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Not positive about art tho....I've never used it. The difference seems too small, if any to me, to worry about it.
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kj2112 said:
Twisted kat.
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Not positive about art tho....I've never used it. The difference seems too small, if any to me, to worry about it.
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I'm pretty sure PACman ROM has all of those features too.

I just decided to live without lockscreen notifs and use Paranoid for tomorrow haha. Thank you all!
Mods: please lock/close thread

Any comparison of ROMs is going to get this thread closed, but if you're looking for the basic functionality of GravityBox but with ART, Cataclysm would probably suffice. That being said I wouldn't flash a new ROM right before going on a trip.

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crazy feature for Galaxy S IV

http://www.talkandroid.com/152819-g...ing-similar-to-smart-stay-and-smart-rotation/
and just wait until some hot chick walks by when your looking at you're phone.
dligon said:
http://www.talkandroid.com/152819-g...ing-similar-to-smart-stay-and-smart-rotation/
and just wait until some hot chick walks by when your looking at you're phone.
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I look forward to the inevitable s3 port
Michael503 said:
I look forward to the inevitable s3 port
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Just buy the s4 that's what I'm gonna do. In with the new, out with the old
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I won't touch the S4 until it's been out a few months.
I'm done with buying brand new phones and flashing this or that AOSP port while all the kinks get worked out.
Better to stick with the S3 until ROM's & accessories are widely available for the S4.
Oh, but I WILL be going S4 as soon as that first killer AOSP ROM is finally bug free.
It took three months on the S3 for that to happen. Then it sucked again while everyone dumped the ICS AOSP before finishing adding all the extra super cool features, and instead started working on JB AOSP. Which took another three months to get all the features & bugs worked out.
CZ Eddie said:
I won't touch the S4 until it's been out a few months.
I'm done with buying brand new phones and flashing this or that AOSP port while all the kinks get worked out.
Better to stick with the S3 until ROM's & accessories are widely available for the S4.
Oh, but I WILL be going S4 as soon as that first killer AOSP ROM is finally bug free.
It took three months on the S3 for that to happen. Then it sucked again while everyone dumped the ICS AOSP before finishing adding all the extra super cool features, and instead started working on JB AOSP. Which took another three months to get all the features & bugs worked out.
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what you say =)
beside unless you're going for international version, otherwise U.S versions won't come out till June.
thatsupnow said:
Just buy the s4 that's what I'm gonna do. In with the new, out with the old
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I just got my S3 last month. I still haven't rubbed the new off of it yet.
I just got mine as well so I got 2 years before this inking about another phone. Maybe a s5 by then lol
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CZ Eddie said:
It took three months on the S3 for that to happen. Then it sucked again while everyone dumped the ICS AOSP before finishing adding all the extra super cool features, and instead started working on JB AOSP. Which took another three months to get all the features & bugs worked out.
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Agreed... even today's AOSP ROMs for the i747 still suck IMHO !!
No offense to the devs, there just not there yet for me to hop on the train... but they're getting closer by the day!
HiKsFiles said:
Agreed... even today's AOSP ROMs for the i747 still suck IMHO !!
No offense to the devs, there just not there yet for me to hop on the train... but they're getting closer by the day!
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Maybe you should just stick with TW then. Probably more your speed.
cjranucci said:
Maybe you should just stick with TW then. Probably more your speed.
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On the GS2? No way, so many people are having SOD issues! If I had one I'd have a Rom on that thing no questions asked.
HiKsFiles said:
Agreed... even today's AOSP ROMs for the i747 still suck IMHO !!
No offense to the devs, there just not there yet for me to hop on the train... but they're getting closer by the day!
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This is all a matter if opinion. As some dislike the bloat and useless features of TW. Saying nothing of their bloated pointless framework files.
Wayne Tech S-III
Woah, that sounds cool, I even thought face detection was something...
zelendel said:
This is all a matter if opinion. As some dislike the bloat and useless features of TW. Saying nothing of their bloated pointless framework files.
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Right.
Age has probably just caught up with me as I do not feel the urge to flash my phones anymore.
Even my good ol' international GS1 isn't up to par anymore even though I still use it almost every day.
It's lagging at leat 4 versions behind in both ROM and kernel lol
We might not even have to wait for a port. Look at the comments in that article, someone with a leaked 4.2 for i9300 (international GS3) shows a screenshot with "Smart Scroll"!
Worthiness: I worry about implementation. Facial recognition is nothing new; we've had that for decades. Retinal recognition (or pupil, I guess) sounds too new. And will it work everywhere? Do all apps have a "scroll" function? What about Flipboard and Currents, which are more like "next page" functions?
~Ibrahim~
HiKsFiles said:
Agreed... even today's AOSP ROMs for the i747 still suck IMHO !!
No offense to the devs, there just not there yet for me to hop on the train... but they're getting closer by the day!
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You're really missing out then. Some of the new 4.2.2 ROM's like CyanogenMod, LiquidSmooth and Vanilla Rootbox are pretty freakin incredible lately. All the good options are starting to go back into the AOSP ROM's now. And these are very reliable also.
I haven't had an SOD since 4.1.2.
I am looking foward to seeing this in action maybe i will spend less time cleaning my screen lol
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/06...ts-leak-confirm-smart-scroll-and-smart-pause/
It's not eye-scrolling. It's head-angle detecting. So, if you lean your head "down," it scrolls. And it can be adjusted per application (Chrome and GMail are two 3rd party apps listed with support).
~Ibrahim~
i as well just bought my s3 on a separate line and only cause i bought it refurb for 29$ to hold me off till the s4. but i also agree on waiting the usual 3+ months.
Anybody going for the HTC One? Pretty good specs, really nice looking too, one solid piece of aluminum, deciding between that or s4
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HiKsFiles said:
Agreed... even today's AOSP ROMs for the i747 still suck IMHO !!
No offense to the devs, there just not there yet for me to hop on the train... but they're getting closer by the day!
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Your nuts lol
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irish.iolar said:
Anybody going for the HTC One? Pretty good specs, really nice looking too, one solid piece of aluminum, deciding between that or s4
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Your nuts lol
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Samsung's lack of support for my note and this phone make me unlikely to but another Samsung product in the future.
also, what about his nuts? why are you talking about his nuts?

[Q] CM11 vs. 4.4.2 stock?

I just bought a Nexus 5 and I was wondering which is better: CM11 nightlies or just having rooted stock FW ..
Which one is faster? (bootup time, app launch times, smoothness)
And am I really missing any features when staying stock?
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46344624
It's really up to you to decide which is better. Cm will probably have more bugs than stock but maybe they're ok for you
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I just bought a Nexus 5 and I was wondering which is better: CM11 nightlies or just having rooted stock FW ..
Which one is faster? (bootup time, app launch times, smoothness)
And am I really missing any features when staying stock?
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I prefer stock because of the difficulty of porting the Google Dialer with Caller ID by Google
gFrenken97 said:
I just bought a Nexus 5 and I was wondering which is better: CM11 nightlies or just having rooted stock FW ..
Which one is faster? (bootup time, app launch times, smoothness)
And am I really missing any features when staying stock?
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I flashed just about everything and settled on stock. cm11, purity ROM, sanity, slim, you name it. Stock with xposed is great. On any custom ROM, I lost LTE and still don't know why. Gravitybox is just about the same as running a custom ROM, too.
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I dont see much of a point in owning a nexus if you are just gonna throw Cyanogenmod on it.
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I would probably stick with stock if I didn't require voice+ app by cyanogenmod. Until hangouts come with full Google voice number support sticking with CM11.
CM11 really isn't that buggy with current nightly, it's incredibly stable. Also the fact that it's a continuous work in progress is plus. You never know when stock gets updates.
Other than that I would use paranoid android when that comes out or pacman.
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muyoso said:
I dont see much of a point in owning a nexus if you are just gonna throw Cyanogenmod on it.
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Yeah just buy the cyanogenmod phone that they released. http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/20/oppo-n1-cyanogenmod-certified-by-google/
mistahseller said:
Yeah just buy the cyanogenmod phone that they released. http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/20/oppo-n1-cyanogenmod-certified-by-google/
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Or like any other Android phone. Almost every major Android phone has Cyanogenmod ported to it. I don't personally understand the appeal of buying a Nexus phone to then throw on the same custom rom that you could run on literally any other Android phone. I guess if you are off contract and absolutely love Cyanogenmod for some insane reason. . . . .
As said on a non nexus the cyanogen team really shine, to be honest I'm loving cataclysm ROM at the minute. Close to stock but has just enough customisations for me
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muyoso said:
Or like any other Android phone. Almost every major Android phone has Cyanogenmod ported to it. I don't personally understand the appeal of buying a Nexus phone to then throw on the same custom rom that you could run on literally any other Android phone. I guess if you are off contract and absolutely love Cyanogenmod for some insane reason. . . . .
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Yeah... not a big cyanogen mod fan, although a big fan of Carbon ROM so I guess I am?
hey guys, i am a bit late but finally i upgrade from sgs2 to n5. and stock-google-android seems to be slick and fast. but what i miss is customizable quick settings and detailed volume control, which i had with my beloved cm. would that be things that xposed can do for me? what are you guys using with your n5?
tyvm!
kws
kweso said:
hey guys, i am a bit late but finally i upgrade from sgs2 to n5. and stock-google-android seems to be slick and fast. but what i miss is customizable quick settings and detailed volume control, which i had with my beloved cm. would that be things that xposed can do for me? what are you guys using with your n5?
tyvm!
kws
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Gravity box does the job fine but i feel that it does slow my phone down a bit. I prefer CM over stock
alb3rtt said:
Gravity box does the job fine but i feel that it does slow my phone down a bit. I prefer CM over stock
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thx for your reply! i like cm very much. but i figured there would be the disadvantage that cm updates will take a little longer than google (which was the other way round with samsung). maybe this will change since google is sending out dev-previews of new major releases now.
have a nice day,
kws
kweso said:
thx for your reply! i like cm very much. but i figured there would be the disadvantage that cm updates will take a little longer than google (which was the other way round with samsung). maybe this will change since google is sending out dev-previews of new major releases now.
have a nice day,
kws
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I will never use CM again, and will stay away from CM variants if at all possible.
You're talking about 2-3 days here. If that worried about it, go back to stock until CM updates. That's what I did for 4.4.3. I was already in bootloader flashing the new modem, so figured I'd just flash the rest.
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You're talking about 2-3 days here.
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rly? youre saying cm releases new major versions 2-3 days after google releases it?
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rly? youre saying cm releases new major versions 2-3 days after google releases it?
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Slim does.

[Q] ART with the perks of Gravitybox

Hi, I've had my nexus 5 for around 2 weeks now and I'm loving it, I've got franco kernel flashed onto it using setcpu having all 4 cores at 2.3ghz most the time as a flawless UI interaction is a must for me.
I'm also running xposed framework with gravity box. Gravity box is the best thing ever! I'm using most it features. However, I really want to use ART for the adding battery life and speed but it is not compatible... So my question is, Is there a way to have all the great features that gravity box provides but also use ART?
nexus_roadhouse said:
Hi, I've had my nexus 5 for around 2 weeks now and I'm loving it, I've got franco kernel flashed onto it using setcpu having all 4 cores at 2.3ghz most the time as a flawless UI interaction is a must for me.
I'm also running xposed framework with gravity box. Gravity box is the best thing ever! I'm using most it features. However, I really want to use ART for the adding battery life and speed but it is not compatible... So my question is, Is there a way to have all the great features that gravity box provides but also use ART?
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Not that I am aware of... regarding speed: have you tried the Qualcomm Optimizations? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art. Most ROMs are already built with their own optimizations and there's quite a few ROMs have art optimized. Vanir is one that comes off the top of my head.
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Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art.
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That seems a little harsh. There's no harm in flashing them.
maxpower7 said:
That seems a little harsh. There's no harm in flashing them.
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Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Not sure this is exactly true. Used those optimized dalvik and uses art on my N4 and N5 with non of what you said happening ..where are you getting g your information? I'd like to read into it more.
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Jsparta26 said:
Hey, that wasn't meant to sound harsh. I'm just speaking from experience . They cause conflicts such as bootloops, some apps won't run and ultimately you can cause your phone not to be able to boot up. Dalvik optimization binaries from another device are usually meant not to work on a different one. ART and dalvik do not mix at all. If you flashed those on top of art or switch to art then you phone won't boot up. I'm just trying to help that's all.
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Hi,
There is not a single issue like you describe for the Nexus 5, even on CM based rom (since a few months now, the Nexus 5 thread has been updated), you should read closely the thread before make these kind of statement, see below (and the Nexus 4 FAQ)...
I personnaly tested to flash what you say on different rom and there is no bootloop, take a look at my posts, for example, in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47709067, it's about the Dalvik and Bionic patches for the N5.
Not sure what you have done to have this on the N5 and not sure what you have experimented on the N5, but not that much in my opinion...
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If by Gravity Box u mean you want customizable quick toggles and battery icon like me then you can use Cataclysm rom with ART and those features are built in and it's stock rom (ish)
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Under no circumstances should you even flash those. Those are meant for another device and they certainly do not play nice with Art. Most ROMs are already built with their own optimizations and there's quite a few ROMs have art optimized. Vanir is one that comes off the top of my head.
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Many people are using these optimisations on the N5. They're flashing them from the N5 forum thread though. Obviously the Dalvik does nothing if you're on ART, but the bionic does and works fine. ALthough OP wants to run GravityBox and there is no way to do this using ART so this should makle the device feel more ART like with Dalvik,.
However, Personally I fouind these mods made Battery worse, not better. Just made the device a little snappier, closer to ART.
I prefer Dalvik without these mods.
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Hi,
There is not a single issue like you describe for the Nexus 5, even on CM based rom (since a few months now, the Nexus 5 thread has been updated), you should read closely the thread before make these kind of statement, see below (and the Nexus 4 FAQ)...
I personnaly tested to flash what you say on different rom and there is no bootloop, take a look at my posts, for example, in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47709067, it's about the Dalvik and Bionic patches for the N5.
Not sure what you have done to have this on the N5 and not sure what you have experimented on the N5, but not that much in my opinion...
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OK download grand theft auto San Andreas with those bionic and dalvik files flashed and see if you can play it. It will force close. Like I I said. I wouldn't post this if this didn't happen to me. I flashed those on top of my cm ROM and that's what happened. Yes I hold true to my statement. You guys can flash whatever you want but I'm just saying from experience. Its my opinion but they aren't even necessary. I mean I see these warnings about gravity box and these files that the op states not flash on top using art or use. We all have our opinions. Please by all means flash away. I did take a look at it. It says flash only the bionic part if you plan on using art. So yeah I believe that flashing both the files and switching to art can cause the non boots and some apps not to run.
So my bad. I'm going on info that was a week old. January 8th which nearly two weeks ago. BTW bionic only makes math algorithms faster. Honestly you cannot seriously tell me these are 100% proof to work with no issues.
@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime, see feedback in the thread I linked...
Sorry but maybe there is something else (another mod or...) in your side...
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@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime
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Same here. Or at least it doesn't force close any more than normal. I find GTA force closes without the Dalvik and Bionic patches too.
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@ Jsparta26, GTA San Andreas is working with these patches and Dalvik runtime, see feedback in the thread I linked...
Sorry but maybe there is something else (another mod or...) in your side...
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Ok. Its weird. I don't have any mods flashed. Just the ROM. The pa gapps, Franco kernel and these files. I'll see what I did. Thanks guys.
To answer the OP question. You can flash a rom that has built in customizations that will work on ART. However Gravity Box and other mods that use the framework will not work on Art.
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Jsparta26 said:
Ok. Its weird. I don't have any mods flashed. Just the ROM. The pa gapps, Franco kernel and these files. I'll see what I did. Thanks guys.
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So.. all of the imminent death to my phone by using these dalvik and Bionic libraries was just because you couldn't play a game so that's what you assumed?
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PJcastaldo said:
To answer the OP question. You can flash a rom that has built in customizations that will work on ART. However Gravity Box and other mods that use the framework will not work on Art.
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So.. all of the imminent death to my phone by using these dalvik and Bionic libraries was just because you couldn't play a game so that's what you assumed?
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Cheers, I think this may be the best solution. I've been told Cataclysm has all the same features as gravity box and works with ART so I'm going to try that out, I'll let you know how it is.
nexus_roadhouse said:
Cheers, I think this may be the best solution. I've been told Cataclysm has all the same features as gravity box and works with ART so I'm going to try that out, I'll let you know how it is.
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Gravity Box and Cataclysm don't have the SAME features, although there are many that do overlap. Their respective threads have a good rundown of the features they provide, so I'd take a look and compare. Using Cataclysm is a good compromise if you want to take advantage of ART. But I've said this before, the advantages that ART brings outweighs the additional features of Gravity Box in my opinion.
b.spec said:
Gravity Box and Cataclysm don't have the SAME features, although there are many that do overlap. Their respective threads have a good rundown of the features they provide, so I'd take a look and compare. Using Cataclysm is a good compromise if you want to take advantage of ART. But I've said this before, the advantages that ART brings outweighs the additional features of Gravity Box in my opinion.
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I've removed xposed framework and installed cataclysm now, i'm loving how snappy the interface is with ART i don't know how i ever lived without it! Although i am a bit annoyed that i've lost some of my apps, tried to use helium backuper but it didn't let me restore my apps... Guess i'll just have to re-download monopoly, and start from scratch on candy crush! I would say there's only two things i miss from gravity box that cataclysm doesn't provide, that is the download speed on the status bar (although you can see it in the toggles) and having my volume down enable flash light on lockscreen.
To be honest.. ART isn't really that fast compared to the dalvik runtime. Granted its 100% perception and opinion.
To me the extremely small performance jump you gain isn't worth the loss of some apps or features. I see it as when it ready to be used it will be default and the ONLY reason its even there now is for developers to get their apps ready.
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Motorola Moto X Style running Android 7.1.1 Nougat spotted on GFXBench

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_mo...711_nougat_spotted_on_gfxbench-news-22350.php
True that.... Yessss finally?
Great news... It's getting closer. But, to be honest, I'll probably not touch it until xposed is ready for Nougat anyway.
LBSpeller said:
Great news... It's getting closer. But, to be honest, I'll probably not touch it until xposed is ready for Nougat anyway.
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Blasphemy!! Haha naw but man I could really use some nougat right now. I got my pops and nephew into nexus based on timely updates and I bought this phone thinking it's a under rated nexus based moto phone but wow ..Patience is virtue
plaese moto add camera api2 plaeseee
If it means I can stop using these inept custom roms in order to get my 7.1.1 fix, bring it on.
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Yesss! I ordered a pixel XL from Verizon for the $20 a month deal but if 7.1.1 is true then I'm cancelling it. I prefer my Moto x over it I just can't stand 6.0 and while the AICP and CyanogenMod​ gets me by the are still too buggy for me.
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Yesss! I ordered a pixel XL from Verizon for the $20 a month deal but if 7.1.1 is true then I'm cancelling it. I prefer my Moto x over it I just can't stand 6.0 and while the AICP and CyanogenMod? gets me by the are still too buggy for me.
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Why cant you stand 6.0??
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Dont you know? Because its older, because the number isnt 7, thats why.
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Invicta said:
Why cant you stand 6.0??
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For starters, I bought this phone because Motorola was quick on their updates at one time. I had a Nexus 6 that has gone from lollipop to marshmallow, and now nougat. I realize this isn't a Nexus device, however, we are still stuck with 6.0 on a may security update. Having used nougat I hate going backwards. There are devices that are older than this one that have 6.0.1. 6.0 was just too buggy IMO. I also find battery life much better when I was using custom 6.0.1 and nougat.
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Yesss! I ordered a pixel XL from Verizon for the $20 a month deal but if 7.1.1 is true then I'm cancelling it. I prefer my Moto x over it I just can't stand 6.0 and while the AICP and CyanogenMod​ gets me by the are still too buggy for me.
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Try dirty unicorns. Official nougat is out and I'm using it and the only bug I've found that is a little annoying is you can't change the call volume. Oh and the camera doesn't come up 25% of the time. But closing the app and bringing it back up makes it work again. It's the most stable release of nougat so far. I recommend you try it out. Just go to they're site.
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Yesss! I ordered a pixel XL from Verizon for the $20 a month deal but if 7.1.1 is true then I'm cancelling it. I prefer my Moto x over it I just can't stand 6.0 and while the AICP and CyanogenMod​ gets me by the are still too buggy for me.
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Just curious why in the world would you order it from big red? definitely confused on that move.
I can't stand 6 either lmao
StankFiss said:
Just curious why in the world would you order it from big red? definitely confused on that move.
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Because I got it for 50% off and my discount with my employer gets me 30℅ off my bill.
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Because I got it for 50% off and my discount with my employer gets me 30℅ off my bill.
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Is it really that smooth as people praise it?
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Curlyfry2121 said:
Try dirty unicorns. Official nougat is out and I'm using it and the only bug I've found that is a little annoying is you can't change the call volume. Oh and the camera doesn't come up 25% of the time. But closing the app and bringing it back up makes it work again. It's the most stable release of nougat so far. I recommend you try it out. Just go to they're site.
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How's the battery life? How much SOT you get?
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xxhunterxx11 said:
Is it really that smooth as people praise it?
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How's the battery life? How much SOT you get?
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I get around 4 hours scrolling through Google plus and such. Casual use pretty much. Use the camera a lil bit. The thing is the kernel is great, you can slightly under lock the CPU too, it's something you should check out and change to your standards. It's very smooth and I don't have any problems with it, it's my DD, but a good tip for battery life is to checkout this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...dvanced-interactive-governor-t3269557/page600 use EX kernel manager to change profiles and such. This is a way to get slightly better battery life and even better performance, but that's honestly up to you. The stock kernel settings work fine but if you just change the minimum frequency for the big cluster and little cluster to 302 you should also get a very slight boost to standby time which is always a good thing. I'll be here to help with kernel changes since I mess with it all the time to get the best screen on time. Which is just under 5 hours before.
Curlyfry2121 said:
I get around 4 hours scrolling through Google plus and such. Casual use pretty much. Use the camera a lil bit. The thing is the kernel is great, you can slightly under lock the CPU too, it's something you should check out and change to your standards. It's very smooth and I don't have any problems with it, it's my DD, but a good tip for battery life is to checkout this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...dvanced-interactive-governor-t3269557/page600 use EX kernel manager to change profiles and such. This is a way to get slightly better battery life and even better performance, but that's honestly up to you. The stock kernel settings work fine but if you just change the minimum frequency for the big cluster and little cluster to 302 you should also get a very slight boost to standby time which is always a good thing. I'll be here to help with kernel changes since I mess with it all the time to get the best screen on time. Which is just under 5 hours before.
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Awesome. Thank you!
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Awesome. Thank you!
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No problem!

Any roms being worked on?

Are there any roms being worked on? The XL has two so far. Hoping we get some.
They have two now? Wow I only saw the Lineage one, good to hear.
I'm wondering this as well, I imagine it shouldn't be that hard to port them over to our Walleye should anyone want to. After all, aren't they basically the same phone besides the bigger battery and different screen?
Anyway it's still early days yet, we just have to be patient.
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kalinda99 said:
They have two now? Wow I only saw the Lineage one, good to hear.
I'm wondering this as well, I imagine it shouldn't be that hard to port them over to our Walleye should anyone want to. After all, aren't they basically the same phone besides the bigger battery and different screen?
Anyway it's still early days yet, we just have to be patient.
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Yup theres LOS and AOSP so far. Carbon and ABC are being worked on, also think DU, OMNI, AICP and SLIM but not 100% sure. After spending so much on a phone seeing development is a relief. The phone is amazing stock, but coming from N6 I do miss flashing a bit. Havent used the N6 since dec 5 but I still download all latest rom updates + TWRP etc. for the N6 to keep backed up for the future.
I'm impatiently waiting for the Carbon Ron. I had it on my HTC m8 and genuinely miss it.
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Diesel_Jeremiah said:
I'm impatiently waiting for the Carbon Ron. I had it on my HTC m8 and genuinely miss it.
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I would be happy with anything at this point. I'm just shocked there isn't something at this point.
I haven't heard anything about any roms.
Looks like the XL now has 3 roms.
I know thats awesome just hope there will be a maintainer for them for the regular Pixel 2
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Looks like the XL now has 3 roms.
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Archangel said:
I know thats awesome just hope there will be a maintainer for them for the regular Pixel 2
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Me too.
According to the maintainer of taimen for LineageOs there will be a mantainer. That's what he said in the post. But it's up to the maintainer to provide unofficial/test builds for us. .
does flashing a custom rom on a Pixel effect the camera picture quality like it does on Oneplus Phones?
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does flashing a custom rom on a Pixel effect the camera picture quality like it does on Oneplus Phones?
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I never had that issue with the Nexus phones. I would assume the same for this. It was one reason I purchased this phone over the 5T.
I'm glad that there are some ROMS being worked on. I really REALLY miss hold-back-to-kill and music controls with the volume rocker. Would be EXTREMELY helpful to have status bar brightness control as well. Pulling down the shade every time I want to change the brightness is pretty tedious.
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I'm glad that there are some ROMS being worked on. I really REALLY miss hold-back-to-kill and music controls with the volume rocker. Would be EXTREMELY helpful to have status bar brightness control as well. Pulling down the shade every time I want to change the brightness is pretty tedious.
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If passing safety net is not an issue for you, the Xposed module GravityBox for Oreo is now ready. I believe this has all of the features that you are looking for.
Thanks
Thanks, this will work for now. Status bar brightness is a little glitchy in landscape, but other than that this it's perfect shin while I wait for an actual ROM.

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