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I have S-OFF... now what?

I too have a US T-Mobile Sensation with S-OFF. I'm not an expert or dev but also not a stranger to flashing recoveries, custom roms, etc.
I've had it for weeks now, just never thought to check for S-OFF! Oops
Guessing I can't do much at this point as no one has developed a custom recovery...?

lp1527 said:
I have S-OFF... now what?
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THe proper thing to do would be to let me trade you out for this brand new s-on device. You dont want the hassle of dealing with one of those s-off devices.. I wouldn't feel right if i didn't at least offer the trade. What can i say i'm just a nice guy.

nugzo said:
THe proper thing to do would be to let me trade you out for this brand new s-on device. You dont want the hassle of dealing with one of those s-off devices.. I wouldn't feel right if i didn't at least offer the trade. What can i say i'm just a nice guy.
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Thanks for the "generous" offer. But, I know how lucky I am to have S-OFF. Not a complete noob
Would like to mod and flash something asap!

lp1527 said:
Thanks for the "generous" offer. But, I know how lucky I am to have S-OFF. Not a complete noob
Would like to mod and flash something asap!
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well i think you should take a look at this thread then and get started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053

lp1527 said:
I too have a US T-Mobile Sensation with S-OFF. I'm not an expert or dev but also not a stranger to flashing recoveries, custom roms, etc.
I've had it for weeks now, just never thought to check for S-OFF! Oops
Guessing I can't do much at this point as no one has developed a custom recovery...?
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You lucky duck...

S-OFF is not in a good spot right now ,here are some reason why you might want to sell for a little more and get the S-ON :
1) You might brick your phone since it's new and don't know what you doing
2) not a whole lot to flash at this point
3) you busy flashing while we S-ON are having fun with Sense 3.0

How do you check for S-ON/OFF?

makomek said:
S-OFF is not in a good spot right now ,here are some reason why you might want to sell for a little more and get the S-ON :
1) You might brick your phone since it's new and don't know what you doing
2) not a whole lot to flash at this point
3) you busy flashing while we S-ON are having fun with Sense 3.0
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God I hope you're not being serious. Otherwise.....
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Is it normal to have so many s-off devices turning up? How are regular customers through retail getting s-off devices? Just seems strange to me.
edit. I'm not doubting anybody, didn't mean for it to sound like that, if it did

nugzo said:
Is it normal to have so many s-off devices turning up? How are regular customers through retail getting s-off devices? Just seems strange to me.
edit. I'm not doubting anybody, didn't mean for it to sound like that, if it did
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He said he's had it for weeks, which means it wasn't a retail device.

Why must he sell away his phone just cause its S-OFF?
Even without S-ON he can still enjoy Sense 3.0
He can just wait till there are mods that he wants to have on his phone, till then he can just enjoy his phone
Good thing for him is just that he doesnt have to go through the hassle of getting his phone from S-ON to S-OFF
Don't bother selling your phone

makomek said:
S-OFF is not in a good spot right now ,here are some reason why you might want to sell for a little more and get the S-ON :
1) You might brick your phone since it's new and don't know what you doing
2) not a whole lot to flash at this point
3) you busy flashing while we S-ON are having fun with Sense 3.0
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makomek said:
S-OFF is not in a good spot right now ,here are some reason why you might want to sell for a little more and get the S-ON :
1) You might brick your phone since it's new and don't know what you doing
2) not a whole lot to flash at this point
3) you busy flashing while we S-ON are having fun with Sense 3.0
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Are you high?

know you go PARTY !!!

Enjoy having s-off. Root it and have fun with root apps.
If you want to join the flashing fun check out the CWM WIP thread (nandroid backup isn't working at the mo, but it is usable).
Its fairly easy to unbrick. if you extract a rom.zip from a RUU (I keep mine on a spare SD card for fastboot).

vladnosferatu said:
know you go PARTY !!!
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make sure you invite us too !

reading thru this made me check what i have.... S-ON....
To the OP, there did u get ur phone?

deepakmk said:
Why must he sell away his phone just cause its S-OFF?
Even without S-ON he can still enjoy Sense 3.0
He can just wait till there are mods that he wants to have on his phone, till then he can just enjoy his phone
Good thing for him is just that he doesnt have to go through the hassle of getting his phone from S-ON to S-OFF
Don't bother selling your phone
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First of all the person that start this thread ,if he just do a little search I mean just little he would not waste his time to post thread like this. If he know how to check if his device is S-OFF then he'll know exactly what to do next.
Am I joking on my last post? . Why are alot these S-OFF devices are going to a wrong people. He should earn a S-ON

I have a s-off also well mine says s-off shipped. No root method I have had time to try has worked. If someone wants me to try something let me know.
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NexVision said:
I have a s-off also well mine says s-off shipped. No root method I have had time to try has worked. If someone wants me to try something let me know.
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so lucky !!!!!

Nabi 2 Root and Gapps Install

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#include /* * Your warranty is now void. * * I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, * thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please * do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM * before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if * you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you. */
Here comes the root for the Nabi 2 and how to install fully work GApps.
You must have a basic working knowledge of adb and have it installed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590800
Also ensure you have fastboot installed and working
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1. Ensure you have latest updates
2. Download jmzrootpackage.zip from here
3. Extract files to desktop
4. Plug in phone
5. Choose from which option you want
Recovery was built by me but Dees_Troy pointed me in the right direction a couple times

Going to check this out when the kid goes to bed. Thanks.
Sent from my EternityInfected ThunderBolt.

Dropline said:
Going to check this out when the kid goes to bed. Thanks.
Sent from my EternityInfected ThunderBolt.
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I have 2 of them so i verified the steps with the second one. Let me know if there are any issues

jmztaylor said:
I have 2 of them so i verified the steps with the second one. Let me know if there are any issues
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will do, grabbed it from her for a few secs to verify it is seen as an ADB device.
EDIT>> IT WAs seen as ADB device.

Tried it, works!
So pleased to have full root and Play Store!
My Nabi 2 had the android update and the root ran with lots of errors, but I have already installed an app from the Play Store ( Titanium Backup free ) and am running it now....
Now to see if I can get GL to SD to run, and then get a 32GB MicroSDHC card...
Sigh...
I am so sorry, I forgot to say THANKS! Mad props! If I wasn't so broke ( can't even pay my bills right now ) I would definitely donate...
But..
You made poor me SO HAPPY!

Worked prefect for me as well. She is going to be happy her missing apps\games are back. Titianium restored her progress on games from her Nabi1, worked like a champ.
Thanks again.
Sent from my EternityInfected ThunderBolt.

I tried it a couple of times last night and had to end up doing a recover to get my apps back. Did any of you that successfully rooted your nabi do the software update? Just think they might have changed something in the update to fix the root exploit. If anyone else is able to get their nabi rooted could you please post your log from Bin4ry's program.

aloxotls said:
I tried it a couple of times last night and had to end up doing a recover to get my apps back. Did any of you that successfully rooted your nabi do the software update? Just think they might have changed something in the update to fix the root exploit. If anyone else is able to get their nabi rooted could you please post your log from Bin4ry's program.
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Doing a reboot a couple times brings your apps back. It will error out throughout the process. But at the end will say successful. If it doesnt first try reboot a couple times to get your data back then try again. I am not the creator of the exploit as I noted so it might be better to ask bin4ry. But I have 2 nabi's and this worked on both. Before and after update. I did have to reroot after update though
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I will just drop this right here.....
http://imgur.com/9EFkg

jmztaylor said:
I will just drop this right here.....
http://imgur.com/9EFkg
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Custom recovery? Hmm.. that was not in the instructions.

Dropline said:
Custom recovery? Hmm.. that was not in the instructions.
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not yet. but shortly it will be and it will make gapps install much much easier. i will prolly have a twrp build vice cwm.

jmztaylor said:
not yet. but shortly it will be and it will make gapps install much much easier. i will prolly have a twrp build vice cwm.
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Cool, I like twrp better than cwm. Of course I like 4ext recovery the best, but I know that would be asking a lot.
Sent from my EternityInfected ThunderBolt.

Dropline said:
Cool, I like twrp better than cwm. Of course I like 4ext recovery the best, but I know that would be asking a lot.
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that would be them doing that as it is closed source. I have a couple little bugs to work out on twrp and i will release later tonight. Will completely new instructions that will be much easier to follow

jmztaylor said:
that would be them doing that as it is closed source. I have a couple little bugs to work out on twrp and i will release later tonight. Will completely new instructions that will be much easier to follow
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Cool, I look forward to checking it out. I just wish I knew how to mod the actual os, would love to enable "safe headphone volume" mode and "hold back to force close app". Not sure why they have those 2 turned off.
Sent from ROOTed NEXUS7

Dropline said:
Cool, I look forward to checking it out. I just wish I knew how to mod the actual os, would love to enable "safe headphone volume" mode and "hold back to force close app". Not sure why they have those 2 turned off.
Sent from ROOTed NEXUS7
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shouldn't be too hard to crank out. since this device is so close to nexus 7, getting cm10 going shouldn't be too much of an issue. I will make a patch to make nabi mode available still though

jmztaylor said:
shouldn't be too hard to crank out. since this device is so close to nexus 7, getting cm10 going shouldn't be too much of an issue. I will make a patch to make nabi mode available still though
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I just worry about breaking the monarch ui. My kid is 2-1/2 so I don't want her with a full cm10, yet.
My only experience is abd stuff and a little small tiny bit of theming for htc sense using the kitchen. Modding the settings menu just sounds so much harder. Or should I say so much easier to mess something up bad.
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Dropline said:
I just worry about breaking the monarch ui. My kid is 2-1/2 so I don't want her with a full cm10, yet.
My only experience is abd stuff and a little small tiny bit of theming for htc sense using the kitchen. Modding the settings menu just sounds so much harder. Or should I say so much easier to mess something up bad.
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Well really as long as you don't touch /system/vendor you won't break monarch. You remove vendor you will have a normal tablet.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium

jmztaylor said:
Well really as long as you don't touch /system/vendor you won't break monarch. You remove vendor you will have a normal tablet.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
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Good to know, thanks.
Also I am going to check this out this weekend...
[GUIDE] [how to] CREATE OWN ROM [FOR ANY ANDROID DEVICE] [FOR N00B] [EASIEST METHODS]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
I think it could help me figure out how to do that mod I want to do, at least I hope it will help with that.

i was actually looking to pick one up, couldnt convince the wife my 13 month old needed one tho >.> IMO its a bit nicer than the n7 due to expandable memory and hdmi out.
however fuhu/nabi refuses to release source for kernel

shabbypenguin said:
i was actually looking to pick one up, couldnt convince the wife my 13 month old needed one tho >.> IMO its a bit nicer than the n7 due to expandable memory and hdmi out.
however fuhu/nabi refuses to release source for kernel
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My kid was under 1 year when we gave it to her. But in the beginning it was more start something for her and hand it over, now at 18months she knows how to take it off the charger and use it all on her own.
13 months is PERFECT get them started young, they need all the advantages they can get.

[Discussion] The Itch *Flashaholic*

So tell me guys, what do you do when you guys get the "itch" of flashing a new ROM?
I try to resist of flashing a new ROM every single day, so what I do to suppress this itch is I take my friends phone and flash a ROM on it

Delete xda app for a week

I flash if I wanna flash, have a beer if I want a beer, load a bowl if I wanna puff, swear if I wanna swear. I could go on but you get the idea. If you wanna do it just do it. But I do like the idea of flashing other peoples phones. I could triple my flashing rate. lol

hechoen said:
I flash if I wanna flash, have a beer if I want a beer, load a bowl if I wanna puff, swear if I wanna swear. I could go on but you get the idea. If you wanna do it just do it. But I do like the idea of flashing other peoples phones. I could triple my flashing rate. lol
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My flashing rate is OVER 9000!!!!1?!!11!!

th3controller said:
My flashing rate is OVER 9000!!!!1?!!11!!
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Nice. My odin rate is about that high. lol The worst part is I have two phones and am still trying to convince my fiance to let me root and flash her Vivid. lol

hechoen said:
Nice. My odin rate is about that high. lol The worst part is I have two phones and am still trying to convince my fiance to let me root and flash her Vivid. lol
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If she complains in anyway related to "Ugh this phone is slow and stupid" interrupt her and say "Darling! Worry not, I *Insert Name Here* shall revive and free your phone of this sluggishness! EXCELSIOR!"

th3controller said:
If she complains in anyway related to "Ugh this phone is slow and stupid" interrupt her and say "Darling! Worry not, I *Insert Name Here* shall revive and free your phone of this sluggishness! EXCELSIOR!"
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LOL. I wish man. It's more like if she let's me geek out on her phone it's even less time I'll be able to spend with her. Truth be told I'm OK with her running stock.

hechoen said:
LOL. I wish man. It's more like if she let's me geek out on her phone it's even less time I'll be able to spend with her. Truth be told I'm OK with her running stock.
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I feel you. I do the same thing that way if something goes wrong it's not your fault.
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johnadelic said:
I feel you. I do the same thing that way if something goes wrong it's not your fault.
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THis times a hundred. I flashed a friends phone once. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER AGAIN!!!!!!11111!!!!
In the middle of the night while I was sleeping and dreaming of a actress most of you wouldnt know who she was, I get woke up with a panic call from said friend because the phone wouldnt send texts...they rebooted and all was fine. Like I said never again.

Flash when you get an update or aren't satisfied.
I am quite satisfied with the latest CM9 so I don't flash unless it is an update.

airfluip1 said:
Flash when you get an update or aren't satisfied.
I am quite satisfied with the latest CM9 so I don't flash unless it is an update.
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But if you don't flash every ROM your never know if your "satisfied" with an inferior ROM. I love AOKP but I still flash every ROM that gets posted for this phone. I find myself going back to AOKP more often than not because it suites my taste and style. But by flashing other things I can honestly say that it's my preference. To me it's a way of eliminating ignorance.

hechoen said:
But if you don't flash every ROM your never know if your "satisfied" with an inferior ROM. I love AOKP but I still flash every ROM that gets posted for this phone. I find myself going back to AOKP more often than not because it suites my taste and style. But by flashing other things I can honestly say that it's my preference. To me it's a way of eliminating ignorance.
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That's me. I like Remics. I like the touchwiz interface and the Samsung feel to it. Others don't, that's their choice, but I do. I keep trying new ROM's but don't like the interface or launcher or look of it and go back to Remics everytime.

th3controller said:
So tell me guys, what do you do when you guys get the "itch" of flashing a new ROM?
I try to resist of flashing a new ROM every single day, so what I do to suppress this itch is I take my friends phone and flash a ROM on it
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You have ORD.

th3controller said:
what do you do when you guys get the "itch" of flashing a new ROM?
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Code:
[email protected]:~/Android/build/cm9$ mka bacon
[...]
Package complete: /home/jeff/Android/build/cm9/out/target/product/galaxys4gmtd/cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip
0dc847422b7f9050bdcad0b8145bbb3f cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip
[email protected]:~/Android/build/cm9$ adb push out/target/product/galaxys4gmtd/cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip /sdcard/INSTALL/roms/
2021 KB/s (142027273 bytes in 68.608s)
[email protected]:~/Android/build/cm9$ adb reboot recovery

jeffsf said:
Code:
[email protected]:~/Android/build/cm9$ mka bacon
[...]
Package complete: /home/jeff/Android/build/cm9/out/target/product/galaxys4gmtd/cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip
0dc847422b7f9050bdcad0b8145bbb3f cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip
[email protected]:~/Android/build/cm9$ adb push out/target/product/galaxys4gmtd/cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip /sdcard/INSTALL/roms/
2021 KB/s (142027273 bytes in 68.608s)
[email protected]:~/Android/build/cm9$ adb reboot recovery
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now all you need to do is:
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adb push update-binary /tmp/update-binary
adb shell chmod a+x /tmp/update-binary
adb shell /tmp/update-binary 1 0 /sdcard/INSTALL/roms/galaxys4gmtd/cm-9-20120928-bl-debug-galaxys4gmtd.zip

bhundven said:
You have ORD.
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Oh god... I need to see a specialist right away. I have everything on the checklist.

Consult the airfluip doctor.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium

If you guys are flashing all the time, do you actually *use* your phones?
Just curious. Takes me a couple of hours to get everything back the way I had it... the OP sounds like he wants to flash something every day. lol
My wife's phone I rooted and removed most of the bloatware and that's all she wants me to do and that's all *I* want to do to it.

You know I think Blue Star ointment will cure most itches you can get.
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Usually the best thing in this case is to have a daily phone and a second phone to do the flashing on. Once I found a favorite rom that works best for me I stop flashing frequently except updates of the rom. It's also easier when you have a rom that support multiple devices that you own.

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Damn i was trying to brick this device since i got it in 2012 and now good brick tool it's finally here....thx _that. :good::laugh:

Yes! Finally a method to get my final setup once and for all in seconds! And I was so damn stupid forcing power off during bootloader flash...
So it's a definitive hard brick? Even nvflash with my blobs won't help? I want to be sure my nightmares will be gone with all my problems. They won't go away if there's still a chance to get tf700 working again
When I will get bored with using my tablet as a pad for my coffee mug there will be only one question to answer - will it blend?

I still prefer to do it the hard way, but great work none the less. :highfive:
I would have posted in the support thread, but there isn't one. :silly:

Why we have to go through all of these troubles...:crying: Just give it a good bubble bath with power on and that is it....:silly::victory:

U SUCK! I TRYED DIS N MY TAB DOSNT WRK NO LONGR!!!!!!!!! I THOHT DIS WS PERFORMANCE BOOSTING THING!!!!!! ILL REPORT U, I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO UR MANAGER AND WANT UR INSURANCE # CUZ OF UR HORRIBLE STUF!
PLZ GIVE ETA ON FIX FOR DIS!
Happy April Fools mate! :good:

I only managed to brick one device in my history with android, you have saved me so much time with this tablet!

wnerw said:
So it's a definitive hard brick? Even nvflash with my blobs won't help?
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I wouldn't even know how to brick it so hard that even nvflash doesn't work. According to the AndroidRoot guys, you can wipe your bootloader and still recover with nvflash. I don't want to try if it can recover from UltraWipe.
wnerw said:
will it blend?
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AJM-hackers said:
U SUCK! I TRYED DIS N MY TAB DOSNT WRK NO LONGR!!!!!!!!! I THOHT DIS WS PERFORMANCE BOOSTING THING!!!!!! ILL REPORT U, I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO UR MANAGER AND WANT UR INSURANCE # CUZ OF UR HORRIBLE STUF!
PLZ GIVE ETA ON FIX FOR DIS!
Happy April Fools mate! :good:
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Very convincing!

Go on release it!!!!

yeaaaah!!
At least a useful tool to brick this useless tablet!!!
You are my heroe!!!

sbdags said:
Go on release it!!!!
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Fuuuu..! I didn't notice itsn't not an actual thing!
Man, I would soooo buy a donate/pro version of it on Google Play...

A must have for any tool box! This should be stickied!!!
So much easier to use than fastboot - and almost does the same! [emoji33]
Sent from my K00C using Tapatalk

Aah hah. So I did read the title right.. lol. Im going to use this without reading any directions and see if I can permenantly unbrick my tablet. If so, ill be sure to come back and throw a **** fit.
MY DEVICE STILL BOOTS WTF BRO YOUR APP SAID IT WOULD WIPE MY BOOT LOADER YOU SUCK.

jeff425 said:
NOOB here..
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Thanks for the warning, but if you posted a serious question in THIS thread, you outed yourself anyway [emoji12]
Seriously - either find a thread that is similar to your problem or start a new thread in the Q&A section. And we will need a lot more information to be able to help:
What rom/recovery/bootloader are you on?
What happened to "brick" your tablet?
What have you tried to do etc etc
Again: do not answer here! Provide as much and as detailed information as possible in an approbriate thread in the approbriate part of the forum.
We'll find you and help if we can....

WTF
WTF I can't believe it. I just bricked my device.
I'm suing the **** outta yew

I really need a "check for brick" app. I keep trying UltraWipe and it's just not working. What am I doing wrong?

[Q] Wanting to root my N5

Finally decided i want to root my N5 and maybe install a custom rom, but new to this stuff. I read its not advised to root using the toolkits so looking for the proper way to do it.
Also i read that rooting wipes all data so is there a way to backup all my apps and data before i do this?
Thanks for any help

Hi,
Backup and Restore your applications and their data + your sdcard.
[GUIDE] Nexus 5 - How to Unlock Bootloader, Install Custom Recovery and Root.
Some reading but all you need is here...

Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Backup and Restore your applications and their data + your sdcard.
[GUIDE] Nexus 5 - How to Unlock Bootloader, Install Custom Recovery and Root.
Some reading but all you need is here...
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thanks
time to get it done

not going well so far lol, i already had the androidSDK but ive tried the zip file in that thread also
adb devices doesnt show my serial
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DEREKTROTTER said:
not going well so far lol, i already had the androidSDK but ive tried the zip file in that thread also
adb devices doesnt show my serial
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Take a look here: Diagnosing USB Driver and ADB issues in Windows.
Or maybe here lol: [TOOL] [WINDOWS] ADB, Fastboot and Drivers - 15 seconds ADB Installer v1.3.

this is my problem and cant seem to figure it out

DEREKTROTTER said:
this is my problem and cant seem to figure it out
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Turn off driver signature enforcement

this was a success
thanks for the help

DEREKTROTTER said:
I read its not advised to root using the toolkits so looking for the proper way to do it.
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Never understood this advice other than the purists out there who suggest old style. Fine, if something screws up using a toolkit (never happened to me) I'll just take their advice then.
50 page thread of satisfied users. That should say something about those nasty toolkits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...olkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-8-0-t2517778

voidcomp said:
Never understood this advice other than the purists out there who suggest old style. Fine, if something screws up using a toolkit (never happened to me) I'll just take their advice then.
50 page thread of satisfied users. That should say something about those nasty toolkits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...olkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-8-0-t2517778
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I've been rooting since the HTC Desire days and I've used the old way and toolkits too. Basically there is no wrong or right way to root. Main thing is especially for someone new to rooting is read up about first before attempting to go ahead and root your device. :good:

voidcomp said:
Never understood this advice other than the purists out there who suggest old style. Fine, if something screws up using a toolkit (never happened to me) I'll just take their advice then.
50 page thread of satisfied users. That should say something about those nasty toolkits.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...olkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-8-0-t2517778
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because do you how many threads are created by people who use toolkits saying "it didnt work", "my phone is bricked!?!?!?!" or something along those lines?
if you understand the process, its:
1) much easier to explain to you how to fix something
2) if something fails, you know exactly where it is
3) This post

Zepius said:
because do you how many threads are created by people who use toolkits saying "it didnt work", "my phone is bricked!?!?!?!" or something along those lines?
if you understand the process, its:
1) much easier to explain to you how to fix something
2) if something fails, you know exactly where it is
3) This post
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The number of people bricking phones doing it the long way far exceeds the toolkit casualties. The long, traditional way not only increases the chance for screw-ups but turns off many who would otherwise like to try.
Yes, you can do it the easy way while catering to people's laziness. If something does screw up help is available here, at least from those who don't finger point and say told you so and refuse to help.

There is a level of understanding needed to be a rooted user. Toolkits negate that but many of those users end up in trouble as an indirect result.
It's true, it's easier to help an understander. People who don't understand usually read other stuff that's wrong when trying to fix issues and make things even worse. It's just best all round to understand. People who are too lazy to understand or don't want to understand:
1) shouldn't be rooted users
2) shouldn't be on xda. The whole point of this forum is to promote understanding. Share knowledge. Not come here for panic help or quick fixes, so yes - we recommend avoiding Toolkits. We'll try to help but when a response is "what's fastboot", well I'm on the road to losing patience.
There are plenty of "help me urgent" and "simply cool my phone" forums. That is not what this place is about. Fine, be lazy. Use a toolkit but at least bother to understand what you're doing and read the threads with salient information because we haven't all got time to spoon feed
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This thread is way off track....but I just had to post anyway. Lol
XDA is about learning.....it isn't a store, and some come here to "supe up" their phone, yet want to expend as little effort as possible in doing so. They won't search, or read or try to learn anything. They just want quick and easy answers to make their phone more awesome..... And give nothing back to the community in the process.
XDA is a place to gain and share knowledge. Not a store for cool things that are free.
So, much kudos to the opening poster for actuality wanting to learn, instead of taking the quick and easy route. Great to see! ?