Hello all. Considering a move from the current phone to this, but wanted to check this first. As I read the specs for this phone, it appears that it supports *both* CDMA and GSM at this same time, meaning it truly is carrier agnostic. If this is the case, it would then outweigh the major drawback of not having expandable storage. (Owncloud is being planned to take care of that shortcoming).
So, can someone verify bandwise if this is the case? Looking to jump from AT&T to T-Mobile if this turns out to be the case. (Looking for the inclusion of Cdma as then Sprint and Verizon become available)
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The Nexus 5 will work on T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint in the USA. Verizon is not supported.
2G/3G/4G LTE
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
You can use it on any carrier except Verizon.
I've been ninja'd lol
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s this right? it doesn't support t-mobile's 3g (HSPA+)
https://play.google.com/store/device...s_5_black_16gb
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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It doesn't according to spec. Wtf.
Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I was worried. T-Mobile doesn't have lte everywhere so I wanted to make sure it falls back to hspa+and not edge.
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D820:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10 ---Verizon Wireless' cdma2000 Band?
ravefoo said:
D820:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10 ---Verizon Wireless' cdma2000 Band?
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It supports it, but Verizon won't activate it because it's not an authorized device. I suppose if you got lucky at a Verizon store or the technical support line you might get lucky and have it activated, IF they have the ability to override the system and get the phone activated. Which I'm not sure they do, but it's worth a shot I guess.
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It supports it, but Verizon won't activate it because it's not an authorized device. I suppose if you got lucky at a Verizon store or the technical support line you might get lucky and have it activated, IF they have the ability to override the system and get the phone activated. Which I'm not sure they do, but it's worth a shot I guess.
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Thanks.
I'll give my Sim card a shot when it comes in. I'm 99% sure it won't do anything but meh why not.
I know that this topic has been dead for a long time but...
Hey guys I know that it's common knowledge that the glorious N5 wont work on Verizon's network but with the release of the N6 and the hush from Google about a new n5 being release with Verizon capability I had to do some investigating. Why would google shoot themselves in the foot by only producing a device that the average smartphone user would not want to purchase (besides people who like phablets of course)? I figured that there might be a slim chance that google might have something up their sleeves with the n5 that wasn't shown in the the pre-halloween release of the nexus 6, 9, and player. As you know, the main reasons why the current n5 does not support Verizon is because of its lack of support for LTE band 13, Verizon's main data band and apparently you cannot active the device being that it's not on an approved list (don't take my word on that, I haven't tried it or anything). At first, I figured that maybe Google had struck up some deal with LG to reproduce the device for capability to handle that band. As time goes on, that looks less and less like a possibility, however, I did happen to come across this, which significantly increases the chance of the N5 working on Verizon's network.
www[dot]extremetech[dot]com/electronics/188756-verizons-volte-rollout-will-kill-off-cdma-and-allow-unlocked-lte-phones-too
Verizon's rollout of XLTE will allow use of of LTE Band 4, a band that the nexus 5 does support for major city areas (not ideal of course but still something interesting to look at). Be that as it may I am interested in your opinion of whether you think that this will change things and perhaps Verizon might cave in to allowing the device on their network. Again I know that this might be a longshot but I'm curious about all things Google.
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I got a US Nexus 5 D820-But i do not live in the US (didn't know about LTE bands limitations)
the N5 D820 LTE only works in the US - the N5 D821 LTE works in rest of the world.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Are these LTE Bands limited by software or hardware? can i make my device work in LTE outside the US? thanks.
Hardware and no.
Actually the bands for d820 listed above are wrong. Even Googles own site appears to be wrong. The wtr1605l radio is the first to be capable of supporting 7 bands but Google list 9. The box of the d820 is more accurate
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rootSU said:
Hardware and no.
Actually the bands for d820 listed above are wrong. Even Googles own site appears to be wrong. The wtr1605l radio is the first to be capable of supporting 7 bands but Google list 9. The box of the d820 is more accurate
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Band 2 (PCS A-F) is a subset of band 25 (PCS A-G) and band 5 (CL850) is a subset of band 26 [eSMR 800 + CL850] so it does indeed support 7 bands.
lilotimz said:
Band 2 (PCS A-F) is a subset of band 25 (PCS A-G) and band 5 (CL850) is a subset of band 26 [eSMR 800 + CL850] so it does indeed support 7 bands.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me
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Thanks all for answering and clearing things up
hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
cshih2 said:
hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
stevemw said:
I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
cshih2 said:
The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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You will not get LTE from either ATT or Tmobile as the Tmobile uses Band 4 AWS for LTE while ATT mostly uses Band 17 700B+C, Band 2 PCS A-F, Band 4 AWS, and some Band 5 CL850.
WCDMA HSPA+ will be fine. T-mobile runs HSPA+21 while ATT runs HSPA+14.4. Both have a day to day prepaid service that you can use to test them out before you choose.
Sorry, I was wrong. Both AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 4 ( and AT&T has band 17) for LTE. I was mistakenly considering only the network frequencies, which was wrong when considering LTE. You won't get LTE on either carrier with the D821, and can only get DC-HSDPA with T-Mobile.
Sorry for the misinformation.
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
cshih2 said:
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
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T-Mobile's "4G" will include HSPA+ (Upgraded 3g).
Same situatioin !
So happy to find this post !
I have EXACTELY the same "problem"
I do have the Nexus 5 D821 and I'm going to L.A. for one month.
Can you tell me wich solution did you choose and if it worked well for you ?
Also how much do you have to pay for how much Data ?
Thanks so much for your help !!!
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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Great thank you very much for your help !!!
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
android.racer said:
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
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Yes I can confirm it totally works !!!
Not for the 4G of course but for me it's fast enough with the 3G.
But maybe you'll have to make your APN manually like I had to do.
By the way I find a GREAT carrier, ultra.me
For $39 you can have :
+ Illimited talk & text
+ Illimited international calls and text !!!
+ Illimited Internet (not 4G)
+ more !!!
I searched the web and read that the 820 is for US users and 821 for Europe.
Does this mean that a nexus 5 821 would not work as well in the US?
I plan to use it in the US but would not mind being able to also use it in Europe.
Thank you.
it's all about bands and frequencies that your carrier operate.
take a look here:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Differences-between-the-two-Nexus-5-models-D820-and-D821_id48985
as you can see GSM and 3G are the same:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
the only difference is on LTE bands
D820: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
D821: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
if you buy the D821 and try to use it in US, you may have low 4G signal in some places or no 4G signal at all (other will work).
here in Israel most carriers supports Europe bands and D820 users have limited 4G cover (GSM and 3G are working good).
you can open some missing bands and enlarge the 4G cover (for both 820 & 821) using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561