I searched the web and read that the 820 is for US users and 821 for Europe.
Does this mean that a nexus 5 821 would not work as well in the US?
I plan to use it in the US but would not mind being able to also use it in Europe.
Thank you.
it's all about bands and frequencies that your carrier operate.
take a look here:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Differences-between-the-two-Nexus-5-models-D820-and-D821_id48985
as you can see GSM and 3G are the same:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
the only difference is on LTE bands
D820: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
D821: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
if you buy the D821 and try to use it in US, you may have low 4G signal in some places or no 4G signal at all (other will work).
here in Israel most carriers supports Europe bands and D820 users have limited 4G cover (GSM and 3G are working good).
you can open some missing bands and enlarge the 4G cover (for both 820 & 821) using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561
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s this right? it doesn't support t-mobile's 3g (HSPA+)
https://play.google.com/store/device...s_5_black_16gb
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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It doesn't according to spec. Wtf.
Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
DarkSi08 said:
Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I was worried. T-Mobile doesn't have lte everywhere so I wanted to make sure it falls back to hspa+and not edge.
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I got a US Nexus 5 D820-But i do not live in the US (didn't know about LTE bands limitations)
the N5 D820 LTE only works in the US - the N5 D821 LTE works in rest of the world.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Are these LTE Bands limited by software or hardware? can i make my device work in LTE outside the US? thanks.
Hardware and no.
Actually the bands for d820 listed above are wrong. Even Googles own site appears to be wrong. The wtr1605l radio is the first to be capable of supporting 7 bands but Google list 9. The box of the d820 is more accurate
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rootSU said:
Hardware and no.
Actually the bands for d820 listed above are wrong. Even Googles own site appears to be wrong. The wtr1605l radio is the first to be capable of supporting 7 bands but Google list 9. The box of the d820 is more accurate
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Band 2 (PCS A-F) is a subset of band 25 (PCS A-G) and band 5 (CL850) is a subset of band 26 [eSMR 800 + CL850] so it does indeed support 7 bands.
lilotimz said:
Band 2 (PCS A-F) is a subset of band 25 (PCS A-G) and band 5 (CL850) is a subset of band 26 [eSMR 800 + CL850] so it does indeed support 7 bands.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me
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Thanks all for answering and clearing things up
Hello all. Considering a move from the current phone to this, but wanted to check this first. As I read the specs for this phone, it appears that it supports *both* CDMA and GSM at this same time, meaning it truly is carrier agnostic. If this is the case, it would then outweigh the major drawback of not having expandable storage. (Owncloud is being planned to take care of that shortcoming).
So, can someone verify bandwise if this is the case? Looking to jump from AT&T to T-Mobile if this turns out to be the case. (Looking for the inclusion of Cdma as then Sprint and Verizon become available)
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The Nexus 5 will work on T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint in the USA. Verizon is not supported.
2G/3G/4G LTE
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
You can use it on any carrier except Verizon.
I've been ninja'd lol
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hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
cshih2 said:
hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
cshih2 said:
The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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You will not get LTE from either ATT or Tmobile as the Tmobile uses Band 4 AWS for LTE while ATT mostly uses Band 17 700B+C, Band 2 PCS A-F, Band 4 AWS, and some Band 5 CL850.
WCDMA HSPA+ will be fine. T-mobile runs HSPA+21 while ATT runs HSPA+14.4. Both have a day to day prepaid service that you can use to test them out before you choose.
Sorry, I was wrong. Both AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 4 ( and AT&T has band 17) for LTE. I was mistakenly considering only the network frequencies, which was wrong when considering LTE. You won't get LTE on either carrier with the D821, and can only get DC-HSDPA with T-Mobile.
Sorry for the misinformation.
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
cshih2 said:
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
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T-Mobile's "4G" will include HSPA+ (Upgraded 3g).
Same situatioin !
So happy to find this post !
I have EXACTELY the same "problem"
I do have the Nexus 5 D821 and I'm going to L.A. for one month.
Can you tell me wich solution did you choose and if it worked well for you ?
Also how much do you have to pay for how much Data ?
Thanks so much for your help !!!
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
treesurf said:
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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Great thank you very much for your help !!!
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
android.racer said:
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
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Yes I can confirm it totally works !!!
Not for the 4G of course but for me it's fast enough with the 3G.
But maybe you'll have to make your APN manually like I had to do.
By the way I find a GREAT carrier, ultra.me
For $39 you can have :
+ Illimited talk & text
+ Illimited international calls and text !!!
+ Illimited Internet (not 4G)
+ more !!!
As the topic states, is there any way to use the Nexus 5 (D821) on the Sprint Network in the US?
I had a broken phone so I bought this nexus 5 thinking that regardless of the difference between the two, the radio should still be compatible with it since it is supposed to be a world phone. I just recently realized that the radios are different (apparently the D821 isn't allowed to use CDMA bands).
I know there is the Nexus Field Test APK, but I don't think that would enable those CDMA bands.
I won't be back in the states for another three months, and at that point, my service contract would end with Sprint, so I could either buy a new phone, or go to another carrier (maybe T-mobile, or any pre-paid provider) and shop around.
But, as for my question, is there any way to get the D821 to use the Sprint Network?
See below.
Elluel said:
GSM networks are the exact same on either device
Some NA carriers use CDMA instead of GSM for 2G. A D821 won't be able to get 2G from those NA carriers that use CDMA, a D820 will get 2G anywhere in the world on either GSM or CDMA.
D820's extra band 19 on WCDMA is pretty much negligible
Some LTE bands are shared, but most are different. If you're lucky/pre-searched before choosing a carrier, you can get a D820 to work elsewhere/D821 to work in NA on LTE if the carrier happens to use one of the LTE bands that are shared between the D820 and D821.
D820:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
D821:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Also, it has been proven possible to enable LTE band 3 & 8 on the D820, as well as band 2 & 4 on the D821 with modifications, which could make your D820 work on more non-NA carriers, and your D821 work on more NA carriers. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561)
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Elluel said:
See below.
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So there is no software enabled modification that I can use that will enable the CDMA bands (not the LTE bands) to be used on a D821?
I know of that forum link at the bottom of the post, but, as far as I know, CDMA is required before the use of LTE on Sprint.
slixzen said:
So there is no software enabled modification that I can use that will enable the CDMA bands (not the LTE bands) to be used on a D821?
I know of that forum link at the bottom of the post, but, as far as I know, CDMA is required before the use of LTE on Sprint.
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The D821 lacks CDMA support completely.
As far as I know, Sprint uses bands 25, 26 and 41 for LTE so the D821 has no way to get LTE either.