Nexus 5 doesn't support T-Mobile hspa+? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

s this right? it doesn't support t-mobile's 3g (HSPA+)
https://play.google.com/store/device...s_5_black_16gb
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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It doesn't according to spec. Wtf.

Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.

DarkSi08 said:
Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I was worried. T-Mobile doesn't have lte everywhere so I wanted to make sure it falls back to hspa+and not edge.
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[Q] Will Nexus 5 support T-Mobile USA HSPA+? [Answered] Yes it will.

On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands as
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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Since I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
Outrager said:
On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands asSince I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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I was getting ready to ask the same question, but I believe you'll need to have 1700 to play with HSPA+. That's what was true for my HTC One at least -- hence the reason I had to cancel my developer edition HTC One order.
Although I didn't give you a full answer, I hope this helps a bit.
If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
Would tmobile really sell this phone if it didn't work with their HSPA+?
tarnar said:
If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
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Dammit. :crying:
Major fail if this is true. Where is my N4?
I think it will work since it has WCDMA Band 4
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/wcdma-band-frequency.htm
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
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Outrager said:
On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands asSince I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
DarkSi08 said:
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
---------- Post added at 02:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:56 PM ----------
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Cool. Thanks for the info.
WCDMA Bands 4 and 2 is T-Mobiles HSPA+ so this supports all bands for T-Mo and then some!
It even supports Sprint.
It wouldn't be the first time that band / frequency jargon confused the end user, even when the end user hopes to be relatively technically apt.
But I think the answers given are correct for the reasons given.
It's all the more confusing because different manufacturers advertise bands/frequencies in different ways - for example, look at how Apple advertises their band/frequency support vs how Google/LG does.
tarnar said:
If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
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Switch providers...why anyone would want to go without LTE just baffles me. Especially on the newer phones that are so powerful...makes no sense?
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Just clarifying, it also supports Tmobile LTE right? I'm in Phoenix and I can't live without LTE now.
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My guess is that it doesn't support LTE because they are using Band IV 1700/2100Mhz, which N5 doesn't support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
Nexus does support band 4, but not sure if they are the same as band IV listed on TMO's site.
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
bigbrown said:
My guess is that it doesn't support LTE because they are using Band IV 1700/2100Mhz, which N5 doesn't support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
Nexus does support band 4, but not sure if they are the same as band IV listed on TMO's site.
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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yes it will support T-Mobile's LTE. As you stated Tmo uses band 4, the N5 has band 4 support.
From my understanding the Nexus 5 does support HSPA+.
My question/concern would be, does it support HSPA+ 42Mbps or 21Mbps?
I only ask because of a chart I saw posted on G+ stating that the Nexus 5 supports 21Mbps HSPA+. Thanks.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAMec/N3pTUpZjMCk/w346-h419/2013.11.04.+-+1
From GSMArena:
Speed DC-HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
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So yeah, you're covered.
br0adband said:
From GSMArena:
So yeah, you're covered.
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That answers my question above, thanks you :good:
DinoSoup said:
Just clarifying, it also supports Tmobile LTE right? I'm in Phoenix and I can't live without LTE now.
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Tmobile it's using lte band 4. So it should be covered.

Nexus 5 (from google play) will it run on Simple Mobile(4g)?

2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
those are the specs of the unlocked version of the nexus 5 from the playstore.
I know i will be able to use it on the service. But i want to know if i will be able to use simple mobile’s 4g network.
wallacepower said:
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
those are the specs of the unlocked version of the nexus 5 from the playstore.
I know i will be able to use it on the service. But i want to know if i will be able to use simple mobile’s 4g network.
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I haven't been able to yet but if I find any thing either. If i find anything I will post it here.
Simple mobile just piggy backs on either at&t or T-Mobile so yes.
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simple mobile confirmed working

[Q] LTE bands-software or hardware limitation?

I got a US Nexus 5 D820-But i do not live in the US (didn't know about LTE bands limitations)
the N5 D820 LTE only works in the US - the N5 D821 LTE works in rest of the world.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Are these LTE Bands limited by software or hardware? can i make my device work in LTE outside the US? thanks.
Hardware and no.
Actually the bands for d820 listed above are wrong. Even Googles own site appears to be wrong. The wtr1605l radio is the first to be capable of supporting 7 bands but Google list 9. The box of the d820 is more accurate
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rootSU said:
Hardware and no.
Actually the bands for d820 listed above are wrong. Even Googles own site appears to be wrong. The wtr1605l radio is the first to be capable of supporting 7 bands but Google list 9. The box of the d820 is more accurate
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Band 2 (PCS A-F) is a subset of band 25 (PCS A-G) and band 5 (CL850) is a subset of band 26 [eSMR 800 + CL850] so it does indeed support 7 bands.
lilotimz said:
Band 2 (PCS A-F) is a subset of band 25 (PCS A-G) and band 5 (CL850) is a subset of band 26 [eSMR 800 + CL850] so it does indeed support 7 bands.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me
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Thanks all for answering and clearing things up

d820 vs d821 outside the us

hello i have a question,
i live in jordan and my service provider uses (GSM “2G”: 900 MHz HSPA+ “3G”: 2100 MHZ) , and no LTE for now
my question is if it will be a diffrance between d820 and d821 if i don't use LTE?
and i cant compare the HSPA+ bands , because it is 2100 mhz and the device show 1/2/4/5/6/8, can someone explain this to me?
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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thanks
Basically both phones work "everywhere" up to HSPA+
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[Q] Nexus 5 Changing the LTE Channels

Hello there, has anyone been successfull in changing the LTE channels of the Nexus 5?
Tried the Toturial for the Galaxy S5, managed to change the settings but they dont stick after the reboot, tried with SlimKat and Stock ROM, and Bricked Kernel (has the option to enable DIAG mode).
Incase you havent heard about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...xus-5-d820-cdma-carrier-t2619312/post49638075
you can not change the channels. the nexus 5 comes with the max allowed channels for the chip, you cant add any more. this isnt a galaxy s 5, its a nexus.
simms22 said:
you can not change the channels. the nexus 5 comes with the max allowed channels for the chip, you cant add any more. this isnt a galaxy s 5, its a nexus.
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Then maybe just swap the US channels for the European ones and vice versa?
The US model has many more LTE channels than the European version, so might be possible?
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
gajotnt said:
Then maybe just swap the US channels for the European ones and vice versa?
The US model has many more LTE channels than the European version, so might be possible?
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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no, not possible

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