On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands as
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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Since I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
Outrager said:
On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands asSince I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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I was getting ready to ask the same question, but I believe you'll need to have 1700 to play with HSPA+. That's what was true for my HTC One at least -- hence the reason I had to cancel my developer edition HTC One order.
Although I didn't give you a full answer, I hope this helps a bit.
If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
Would tmobile really sell this phone if it didn't work with their HSPA+?
tarnar said:
If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
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Dammit. :crying:
Major fail if this is true. Where is my N4?
I think it will work since it has WCDMA Band 4
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/wcdma-band-frequency.htm
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
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Outrager said:
On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands asSince I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
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FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Cool. Thanks for the info.
WCDMA Bands 4 and 2 is T-Mobiles HSPA+ so this supports all bands for T-Mo and then some!
It even supports Sprint.
It wouldn't be the first time that band / frequency jargon confused the end user, even when the end user hopes to be relatively technically apt.
But I think the answers given are correct for the reasons given.
It's all the more confusing because different manufacturers advertise bands/frequencies in different ways - for example, look at how Apple advertises their band/frequency support vs how Google/LG does.
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If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
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Switch providers...why anyone would want to go without LTE just baffles me. Especially on the newer phones that are so powerful...makes no sense?
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Just clarifying, it also supports Tmobile LTE right? I'm in Phoenix and I can't live without LTE now.
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My guess is that it doesn't support LTE because they are using Band IV 1700/2100Mhz, which N5 doesn't support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
Nexus does support band 4, but not sure if they are the same as band IV listed on TMO's site.
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
bigbrown said:
My guess is that it doesn't support LTE because they are using Band IV 1700/2100Mhz, which N5 doesn't support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
Nexus does support band 4, but not sure if they are the same as band IV listed on TMO's site.
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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yes it will support T-Mobile's LTE. As you stated Tmo uses band 4, the N5 has band 4 support.
From my understanding the Nexus 5 does support HSPA+.
My question/concern would be, does it support HSPA+ 42Mbps or 21Mbps?
I only ask because of a chart I saw posted on G+ stating that the Nexus 5 supports 21Mbps HSPA+. Thanks.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAMec/N3pTUpZjMCk/w346-h419/2013.11.04.+-+1
From GSMArena:
Speed DC-HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
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So yeah, you're covered.
br0adband said:
From GSMArena:
So yeah, you're covered.
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That answers my question above, thanks you :good:
DinoSoup said:
Just clarifying, it also supports Tmobile LTE right? I'm in Phoenix and I can't live without LTE now.
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Tmobile it's using lte band 4. So it should be covered.
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hi, im new to XDA. but does anyone here know if an unlocked TMobile HTC Amaze will work on ATT's 3g/4g network???
Please reply if you have any insight on this subject matter, thanks!!
Nope, tmobile bands are different from at&ts 3g/4g bands. I heard telus is getting it too and that one will work with at&t 3g/4g
walkinhotdog said:
Nope, tmobile bands are different from at&ts 3g/4g bands. I heard telus is getting it too and that one will work with at&t 3g/4g
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thanks for the info. so, Tmobiles hspa+ band is different from att's hspa+ band??
Can someone please confirm with an unlocked unit?
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Can someone please confirm with an unlocked unit?
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I have an unlocked Amaze, and while you can insert an At&t 4g sim, it will not get any of the HSD**, it will only lock on 2G...very ssslllooowwww. Voice, not a problem, but the phone comes with T-Mobile data radio. I inserted my at&t SGSII sim.I even added all known APNs for at&t 3g/4g, nope...don't work
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DMX804 said:
thanks for the info. so, Tmobiles hspa+ band is different from att's hspa+ band??
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T-Mobile USA High Speed data bands: 1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS
At&t High Speed data bands: 850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G 1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G 700 MHz LTE 4G
They are different.
SOURCE: Wikipedia/Google
Hope this helps
Check the amaze forums
There is a thread on this in the htc amaze forum, they say it may be compatible. Also the box says that it carries the bands for at&t. Check out the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300714
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The operating frequencies on the HTC Amaze 4G are
GSM (2G)
850 Cellular Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 Europe, Asia, Africa
1800 DCS Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS Americas
WCDMA / HSPA+ 42 (3G / 4G)
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
2100 IMT / band 1 (I) Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel
ATT operates in the US on:
2G: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz
3G: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz
4G: 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz
That is how you were supposed to answer a topic. Not assuming things you don't know nothing about just because you feel your gut tells you so.
s this right? it doesn't support t-mobile's 3g (HSPA+)
https://play.google.com/store/device...s_5_black_16gb
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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It doesn't according to spec. Wtf.
Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
DarkSi08 said:
Stop overreacting because you don't understand what you're reading.
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I was worried. T-Mobile doesn't have lte everywhere so I wanted to make sure it falls back to hspa+and not edge.
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According to Google specs, Nexus 5 doesn't have 1700 MHz support for Tmobile users who still haven't had the luxury of LTE coverage and are still rocking HSPA+ on 1700Mhz frequency. I hope Google just forgot to add it in on its website or I'd be very disappointed.
WCDMA Band 4 is the same as T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+
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WCDMA Band 4 is the same as T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+
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Thanks for the clarification.
hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
cshih2 said:
The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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You will not get LTE from either ATT or Tmobile as the Tmobile uses Band 4 AWS for LTE while ATT mostly uses Band 17 700B+C, Band 2 PCS A-F, Band 4 AWS, and some Band 5 CL850.
WCDMA HSPA+ will be fine. T-mobile runs HSPA+21 while ATT runs HSPA+14.4. Both have a day to day prepaid service that you can use to test them out before you choose.
Sorry, I was wrong. Both AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 4 ( and AT&T has band 17) for LTE. I was mistakenly considering only the network frequencies, which was wrong when considering LTE. You won't get LTE on either carrier with the D821, and can only get DC-HSDPA with T-Mobile.
Sorry for the misinformation.
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
cshih2 said:
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
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T-Mobile's "4G" will include HSPA+ (Upgraded 3g).
Same situatioin !
So happy to find this post !
I have EXACTELY the same "problem"
I do have the Nexus 5 D821 and I'm going to L.A. for one month.
Can you tell me wich solution did you choose and if it worked well for you ?
Also how much do you have to pay for how much Data ?
Thanks so much for your help !!!
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
treesurf said:
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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Great thank you very much for your help !!!
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
android.racer said:
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
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Yes I can confirm it totally works !!!
Not for the 4G of course but for me it's fast enough with the 3G.
But maybe you'll have to make your APN manually like I had to do.
By the way I find a GREAT carrier, ultra.me
For $39 you can have :
+ Illimited talk & text
+ Illimited international calls and text !!!
+ Illimited Internet (not 4G)
+ more !!!
So i have been searching and i have found out that the one plus one supports these bands according the their site.
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
will this give me tmobile 4g and lte support
i know tmobile uses 1700 and 2100 for a majority of the network and on gsmarena it says it has it but with the bands off the official site does it support 4g and lte
thankyou
tecb0yjoy said:
So i have been searching and i have found out that the one plus one supports these bands according the their site.
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
will this give me tmobile 4g and lte support
i know tmobile uses 1700 and 2100 for a majority of the network and on gsmarena it says it has it but with the bands off the official site does it support 4g and lte
thankyou
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simple answer is yes but lil more searching and you would find quite a few threads of OnePlus and T-Mobile
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/tutorial-how-to-use-the-opo-on-t-mobile-usa.64071/
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/68963?start=0&tstart=0
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/one-plus-t-mobile-usa-compatibility.969/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/one-1-t-mobile-lte-t2826591
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/us-tmobile-phone-users-anyone-get-lte.53021/
Thank you so much i have been searching for about 2 hours and for some reason i couldnt find the answer or info you pulled you have just relieved my stress lol thanks again
tecb0yjoy said:
Thank you so much i have been searching for about 2 hours and for some reason i couldnt find the answer or info you pulled you have just relieved my stress lol thanks again
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what did you use as a search its simple say as little as possible first all I put in was oneplus tmobile - oneplus tmobile xda - Google also filled out the rest of it for me since it seems many have searched it
glad i helped