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I know this has been covered a million times but saying data will only be Edge/2g when doing this. I was looking at the GSM Unlocked Nexus and the specs are almost identical with the the one exception. Has anyone tired the MT4GS on ATT and confirmed it not working 3g+ Data??
Tech Specs For Galaxy Nexus GSM/HSPA+
NETWORK
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 21
T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1900 / 2100 / 1700
850 MHz is the missing 3G MHz, is that what ATT is using for 3G in the US because this shows using both 850 and 1900
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
Frequency Protocol Class
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
If so is there any way I can find out what my area is MHz wise.
Thanks,
Randy
I'd say no either way. I've never seen a Tmobile phone compatible with AT&T 3G bands
I read on Phandroid that the unlocked Nexus did fine on HSPA+.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
The Galaxy Nexus they sell in the play store says its compatable with att and tmo and I checked the specs and MHz wise there the same except the 850MHz. Further checking I found a freq. map and it looks like in my area of TN its 1900MHz 3g for att. It was a semi educated guess on it working. Guess either need to find a friend that uses att or get a prepaid sim for a month.
The unlocked GNex GSM phone is "Pentaband", which means it can use the HSPA+ frequencies on AT&T, T-Mobile, and nearly every other GSM provider in the world. There are only a few phones with this capability.
Well it appears Samsung and Nokia are using the Pentaband theory. That must have been why I was reading of people getting the Note working on ATT.
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zcivicef said:
Well it appears Samsung and Nokia are using the Pentaband theory. That must have been why I was reading of people getting the Note working on ATT.
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One good development is that T-Mobile is busy refarming some of their spectrum and that is giving people moving from AT&T that previously would only get EDGE data speeds access to HSPA+ now. For instance, AT&T iPhones can now get HSPA+ high speed data on T-Mobile in Atlanta and a few other metro areas due to the refarming. T-Mobile will be doing this in most areas in the coming year as part of their spectrum moving to accommodate LTE and make their service more usable to a larger number of devices.
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One good development is that T-Mobile is busy refarming some of their spectrum and that is giving people moving from AT&T that previously would only get EDGE data speeds access to HSPA+ now. For instance, AT&T iPhones can now get HSPA+ high speed data on T-Mobile in Atlanta and a few other metro areas due to the refarming. T-Mobile will be doing this in most areas in the coming year as part of their spectrum moving to accommodate LTE and make their service more usable to a larger number of devices.
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Will T-Mobile ever get LTE? Idk
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Will T-Mobile ever get LTE? Idk
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
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They should be getting it in a year or two.
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You will only get edge on AT&T. Same with any T-Mobile phone.
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You will only get edge on AT&T. Same with any T-Mobile phone.
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Im getting 4g with my sgs2 from tmous
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Im getting 4g with my sgs2 from tmous
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Have you ran a speed test on it?
hi i read here in a post that mytouch 4 slide is a 3g in 1900 1700 2100, but according to gsmarena it comes only with 3g 1700 2100, as some tmobile units, my questions are:
does anybody knows the real configuration (only 1700 and 2100, or not)?
is there any radio that comes with 3g 1900mhz, even if its not from mytouch 4g slide, maybe other cause i think that the hardware will work in 1900 as 3g instead of only edge like in 850mhz?
is there any secret code to activate 3g band options?
thank you very much indeed
I would trust the gsm arena spec sheet, but haven't confirmed the bands myself. And not you cannot just add bands, they are interdependent of the radio in that sense, you can not add or remove them
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To make it easier instead of using the Freqs (Because they overlap with other bands) here are the Bands that the mT4GS uses: Band 1 and Band 4.
Your confusion comes from T-Mobile refarming the 1900 MHz for 3G. This is the one at&t also uses. It is Band 2.
The mT4GS will not work on Band 2 in 3G only 2G. The hardware was made for Bands 1 and 4.
Use this chart it should clear up the confusion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Hi guys,
I'm hoping someone can give me a for sure answer on this. I have a company we met at CES offering me some chinese cell phones. Basically they are an S4 knock off. I have definitely decided against selling these, but since I have a really old phone... I'm thinking about buying one for myself to play with.
I am currently on the t-Mobile network. Here is what their website says about "bands"
T-Mobile's UMTS network operates in Band IV, which uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. Specifically, T-Mobile uses the 1700 MHz frequency to send information to cell sites and then uses the 2100 MHz frequency to receive information. A device must be able to use both frequencies to use T-Mobile's domestic UMTS network.
Most international UMTS networks operate in Band I, which uses the 2100 MHz frequency.
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and here is the information about the phone:
MS mode: WCDMA/GSM
Frquency band: WCDMA 2100/850 (HSDPA) and GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Wireless transmission: 3G, WIFI 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.0, EDGE, HSDPA, HSUPA,
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Everything sounds like it should work, but the concern is the 850/2100 on WCDMA. T-Mobile claims it uses 1700/2100.
For comparison, here is the t-Mobile Nexus 4
GSM:850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data:HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
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I do understand that the chinese phone is only 3G, and the Nexus I compare to is 4G.
According to what I just read on another tmousa page (which agrees with your quote) their data (3g, 4g, and lte) all work on 1700/2100 as of this date of posting.
From your quote about your phone, it operates on gsm 1800/1900. That does not match with tmo.
I know you probably already figured this out, but I am searching on same subject, so others will follow.
Blessings!
On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands as
Network
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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Since I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands asSince I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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I was getting ready to ask the same question, but I believe you'll need to have 1700 to play with HSPA+. That's what was true for my HTC One at least -- hence the reason I had to cancel my developer edition HTC One order.
Although I didn't give you a full answer, I hope this helps a bit.
If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
Would tmobile really sell this phone if it didn't work with their HSPA+?
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If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
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Dammit. :crying:
Major fail if this is true. Where is my N4?
I think it will work since it has WCDMA Band 4
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/wcdma-band-frequency.htm
They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
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On the Nexus 5 page it states the bands asSince I don't see 1700 MHz does that mean it won't support T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds?
I'm currently on an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile and not having that band makes it kind of useless half the time. I'm not sure if my area has good LTE coverage some I don't know anyone with an T-Mobile capable LTE device.
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FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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They're using channels, not frequencies. It has the channels T-Mobile uses for AWS HSPA+.
T-Mobile is using channels 2 and 4 for HSPA+, as far as I know, and those are supported: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
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FYI - HSPA = WCDMA, not GSM, so looking at the GSM frequencies isn't going to tell you anything for HSPA+ connectivity.
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Cool. Thanks for the info.
WCDMA Bands 4 and 2 is T-Mobiles HSPA+ so this supports all bands for T-Mo and then some!
It even supports Sprint.
It wouldn't be the first time that band / frequency jargon confused the end user, even when the end user hopes to be relatively technically apt.
But I think the answers given are correct for the reasons given.
It's all the more confusing because different manufacturers advertise bands/frequencies in different ways - for example, look at how Apple advertises their band/frequency support vs how Google/LG does.
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If the phone doesn't support AWS HSPA+ then this is bad news for Canadians on Wind or Mobilicity. LTE support doesn't help when your provider has no LTE network.
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Switch providers...why anyone would want to go without LTE just baffles me. Especially on the newer phones that are so powerful...makes no sense?
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Just clarifying, it also supports Tmobile LTE right? I'm in Phoenix and I can't live without LTE now.
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My guess is that it doesn't support LTE because they are using Band IV 1700/2100Mhz, which N5 doesn't support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
Nexus does support band 4, but not sure if they are the same as band IV listed on TMO's site.
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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My guess is that it doesn't support LTE because they are using Band IV 1700/2100Mhz, which N5 doesn't support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
Nexus does support band 4, but not sure if they are the same as band IV listed on TMO's site.
2G/3G/4G LTE
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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yes it will support T-Mobile's LTE. As you stated Tmo uses band 4, the N5 has band 4 support.
From my understanding the Nexus 5 does support HSPA+.
My question/concern would be, does it support HSPA+ 42Mbps or 21Mbps?
I only ask because of a chart I saw posted on G+ stating that the Nexus 5 supports 21Mbps HSPA+. Thanks.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAMec/N3pTUpZjMCk/w346-h419/2013.11.04.+-+1
From GSMArena:
Speed DC-HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
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So yeah, you're covered.
br0adband said:
From GSMArena:
So yeah, you're covered.
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That answers my question above, thanks you :good:
DinoSoup said:
Just clarifying, it also supports Tmobile LTE right? I'm in Phoenix and I can't live without LTE now.
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Tmobile it's using lte band 4. So it should be covered.
Does the nexus 5 support T-Mobile hspa refarmed 1900mhz? Because that's a important frequency for penetrating indoors cuz current non refarmed hspa uses 1700 / 2100 combo
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yes. next time check the specs on https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_5_black_32gb
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Does the nexus 5 support T-Mobile hspa refarmed 1900mhz? Because that's a important frequency for penetrating indoors cuz current non refarmed hspa uses 1700 / 2100 combo
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I thought it was the lower frequency bands that allowed building penetration...? 600, 700...
ldubs said:
I thought it was the lower frequency bands that allowed building penetration...? 600, 700...
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Depends on tower location for example a 2G 1900 PCS edge only cell site is closer to me than the 1700/2100 AWS LTE/HSPA/HSPA+
so theoretically if i see 5 bars edge once they refarm i would see 5 bars HSPA+ no LTE but its better than no service in some parts of my home.
because with T-Mobile AWS it uses two frequency's 1700 for upload and 2100 for download while refarmed PCS just requires the 1900
and 1900 is better than 2100