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I tried reading the NFC chip on my US passport card, but the phone doesn't pick anything up. I've tried two different apps from the Play store and I turned NFC on in the settings, but it doesn't do anything. Has anybody got it working? Have any tips?
Thanks!
Billy
I tried Android beam by touch my One X with my GS2 and both reacted with vibration and sound. So, yes, NFC works.
JeepFreak said:
I tried reading the NFC chip on my US passport card, but the phone doesn't pick anything up. I've tried two different apps from the Play store and I turned NFC on in the settings, but it doesn't do anything. Has anybody got it working? Have any tips?
Thanks!
Billy
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I'm assuming NFC based data communication isn't universal. That'd be pretty messed up if someone could walk around with a phone and run into people in a heavy tourist area and have access to their personal information.
Android Beam has to be enabled to both devices (or the equivalent on whichever other device) in order to pass information back an forth. I've tested it with MiFARE 1k tags and the HOX works just fine.
There's a cool app that can read standard & non-standard NFC tags like the ones in credit cards and ones that stores use for loss prevention. It's called NFC ReTag on the Market (errr.. Play Store..w/e).
Others like NFC Reader/Writer by NXP are designed to work only with NFC tags that are NFC Forum compliant or of certain/most MiFARE types.
What's the range on the reader? I thought I read 10cm (4 inches) somewhere? I wonder if it'd be possible to get a wrist band with an nfc chip in it that would unlock the phone when you're holding it in your hand, but then require a pass-code if the wrist band isn't present. Could be a silicon band like people get for the various causes they support, or even integrated into a watch band (for the few people who still wear those!)
Another possibility would be a ring, that would definitely be in range of the reader I'd imagine), though I'm not big on rings myself...
I can definitely put my credit card up against it and it'll read it. It took a few seconds though.
holtenc said:
I'm assuming NFC based data communication isn't universal. That'd be pretty messed up if someone could walk around with a phone and run into people in a heavy tourist area and have access to their personal information.
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Well, the range isn't that good, but, uh... yeah! It can happen! http://youtu.be/vmajlKJlT3U
I should have clarified that I wasn't trying to communicate between two phones. I want to see what info my cards are emitting!
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tom_m said:
I can definitely put my credit card up against it and it'll read it. It took a few seconds though.
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What part of the phone do you put the card up to?
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Billy
mesasone said:
What's the range on the reader? I thought I read 10cm (4 inches) somewhere? I wonder if it'd be possible to get a wrist band with an nfc chip in it that would unlock the phone when you're holding it in your hand, but then require a pass-code if the wrist band isn't present. Could be a silicon band like people get for the various causes they support, or even integrated into a watch band (for the few people who still wear those!)
Another possibility would be a ring, that would definitely be in range of the reader I'd imagine), though I'm not big on rings myself...
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Hey, it works for doggie doors! I like the idea!
Billy
JeepFreak said:
What part of the phone do you put the card up to?
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Billy
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The middle of the back seems to be fine.
I use it with nfc task launcher, use a switch in there to turn stuff on when I get home and off when I go out, very useful
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JeepFreak said:
I tried reading the NFC chip on my US passport card, but the phone doesn't pick anything up. I've tried two different apps from the Play store and I turned NFC on in the settings, but it doesn't do anything. Has anybody got it working? Have any tips?
Thanks!
Billy
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Never tested NFC with an US passport ... but I think someone mentioned that the passport musst be open ... due to some shielding metal foil within the cover ...
SN4K3B1T3 said:
I use it with nfc task launcher, use a switch in there to turn stuff on when I get home and off when I go out, very useful
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I tried NFC Task Launcher and it's definitely a nice app, but with the switches you have to tap the tag twice. And the tags can only be read when the phone is unlocked. Hoping a chef can fix this in a custom rom.
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Never tested NFC with an US passport ... but I think someone mentioned that the passport musst be open ... due to some shielding metal foil within the cover ...
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Mine'sa card, not a book.
Billy
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Mine'sa card, not a book.
Billy
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ah ok, ....same shielding metal foil within the "protective sleeve" ;-)
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ah ok, ....same shielding metal foil within the "protective sleeve" ;-)
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Yeah, good point. I don't have my sleeve anymore though. I've tried a half dozen apps with no luck. I'm beginning to think my NFC module is broken though. I even tried the wife's passport. Any advice?
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Billy
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JeepFreak said:
Yeah, good point. I don't have my sleeve anymore though. I've tried a half dozen apps with no luck. I'm beginning to think my NFC module is broken though. I even tried the wife's passport. Any advice?
TIA,
Billy
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Well, I got a glimmer of hope. I was able to read a tag in my library book. That's the only thing it's read so far, but I don't think my credit cards have chips afterall. Not sure what the problem is with the passport though =\
Billy
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I'm assuming NFC based data communication isn't universal. That'd be pretty messed up if someone could walk around with a phone and run into people in a heavy tourist area and have access to their personal information.
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To use Android Beam, you have to have the app open from which you wish to share information. Bring the phones together and tap the screen. There's no way you could ninja someone's data without them knowing, as they have to push it to you, rather than you pulling it from them.
EDIT: Oh, and yes NFC works fine for me, at least to push contacts via AndroidBeam.
Has anyone gotten ISIS working?
My local Verizon store swears that even though jellybean just released today that today they also revoked support for ISIS because of problems.
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Has anyone gotten ISIS working?
My local Verizon store swears that even though jellybean just released today that today they also revoked support for ISIS because of problems.
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Google Wallet works better. You should root your phone and try that
Yes I have Google wallet. Wanted to try it ISIS since I live in one of the test areas. Compare the two. Verizon fail all over the place.
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You have to have the special NFC sim cards for ISIS to work.
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Hmmm maybe I will start an Isis thread eventually...... tba
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So I picked up an nfc sim. Still nada. Can't see ISIS in mobile market and through Web says my SGS3 is incompatible. Oh well guess I won't compare and I'll just stick with Google wallet.
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Incase anyone else is interested Verizon fixed the problem overnight. So you can now install ISIS btw you don't need the nfc sim installed to install the app. Not sure about actually using /setting it up. I believe you will need that sim to do anything in the app.
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Incase anyone else is interested Verizon fixed the problem overnight. So you can now install ISIS btw you don't need the nfc sim installed to install the app. Not sure about actually using /setting it up. I believe you will need that sim to do anything in the app.
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I'm In Michigan and I installed the app but it would not let me set it up. So I tweeted to verizonsupport and they sent me a SIM card that is compatible with Isis. I received the SIM card today and setup the account. I also recieved the free ten dollars. So now i have to see if it works at a store.
I encourage everybody to pass on ISIS and the carriers bull****.
Help a n00b out... where can you actually use Isis? I have Google Wallet working on my Nexus 7 and have used it at a few places...much to the astonishment of employees and customers... but even there, very limited support.
sRDennyCrane said:
Help a n00b out... where can you actually use Isis? I have Google Wallet working on my Nexus 7 and have used it at a few places...much to the astonishment of employees and customers... but even there, very limited support.
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ISIS supports the same services (paypass, paywave, etc) that wallet supports. So basically you should be able to use it at the same locations.
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ISIS supports the same services (paypass, paywave, etc) that wallet supports. So basically you should be able to use it at the same locations.
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I just got the OTA from VZW last week and since I saw ISIS in the change list I figured I'd give it a go even though I'm in NY not SLC/Austin.
I called Verizon and they sent me a NFC SIM, and I still had trouble getting it to go but I got it eventually. It was a pain in the neck to set up and add cards but I got it going. On Amex's page about ISIS it says: "Use it where American Express contactless payments are accepted.* Just look for the universal symbol for contactless payments or signs that say "Isis Ready™."
by saying "or" it seems to imply not just in ISIS ready places like SLC/Austin, but anywhere AMEX ExPay is accepted, which is all over the country! I didn't see the same about Chase.
I'll give it a go today in NY and I'll let you know if it worked.
Overall, I must say so far, I like the app better than Google Wallet. It seems like they charge the card direct as opposed to Google which has a system of charging their virtual MC first then charging you, (This could be dis-advantageous regarding benefits that the card would give you, like bonus points at certain category merchants etc.). The only major problem is that it only takes Chase, Amex, and Cap1. but that isn't such a problem for me because I pretty much only use Chase and Amex cards.
I've got it installed, but it will not let me set it up. I live in Pittsburgh, so it may not be a test area. It's strange that it kicks me out of the app though.
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I've got it installed, but it will not let me set it up. I live in Pittsburgh, so it may not be a test area. It's strange that it kicks me out of the app though.
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Do you have a NFC SIM? you'll need one for it to work and Verizon will send you one free.
I live in New York and I haven't had an issue setting it up.
levilib said:
I just got the OTA from VZW last week and since I saw ISIS in the change list I figured I'd give it a go even though I'm in NY not SLC/Austin.
I called Verizon and they sent me a NFC SIM, and I still had trouble getting it to go but I got it eventually. It was a pain in the neck to set up and add cards but I got it going. On Amex's page about ISIS it says: "Use it where American Express contactless payments are accepted.* Just look for the universal symbol for contactless payments or signs that say "Isis Ready™."
by saying "or" it seems to imply not just in ISIS ready places like SLC/Austin, but anywhere AMEX ExPay is accepted, which is all over the country! I didn't see the same about Chase.
I'll give it a go today in NY and I'll let you know if it worked.
Overall, I must say so far, I like the app better than Google Wallet. It seems like they charge the card direct as opposed to Google which has a system of charging their virtual MC first then charging you, (This could be dis-advantageous regarding benefits that the card would give you, like bonus points at certain category merchants etc.). The only major problem is that it only takes Chase, Amex, and Cap1. but that isn't such a problem for me because I pretty much only use Chase and Amex cards.
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Update: I successfully used ISIS to pay at a Brooklyn, NY RiteAid store. I had it set to use a Amex card and I checked straight away and there was a pending charge that appeared normal (unlike Google Wallet transactions which would show up as GOOGNFC*name-of-merchant). When I tried to pay, nothing was happening, so I took off the slim case I have on the back of my phone (GW never had any problems working through this case) and then tried again. Even then nothing happened, I was about to give up and began to pull out my wallet to get a real card, when the terminal came to life and said "Processing Contacless Payment". I'm not sure if it managed to read through my case or if it only read after I removed the case, but if it's the latter, that might be due to the fact that ISIS doesn't utilize the built in NFC chip rather it uses the one embedded into the SIM which is obviously much smaller (the built in one relies on an antenna as big as the battery) and therefore has a much shorter range.
The bottom line is so far I still like it better than GW, my only concern is that it mentioned that if it detects unusual root access in the OS, it will not operate. I don't plan on staying stock unrooted for too much longer!
levilib said:
Update: I successfully used ISIS to pay at a Brooklyn, NY RiteAid store. I had it set to use a Amex card and I checked straight away and there was a pending charge that appeared normal (unlike Google Wallet transactions which would show up as GOOGNFC*name-of-merchant). When I tried to pay, nothing was happening, so I took off the slim case I have on the back of my phone (GW never had any problems working through this case) and then tried again. Even then nothing happened, I was about to give up and began to pull out my wallet to get a real card, when the terminal came to life and said "Processing Contacless Payment". I'm not sure if it managed to read through my case or if it only read after I removed the case, but if it's the latter, that might be due to the fact that ISIS doesn't utilize the built in NFC chip rather it uses the one embedded into the SIM which is obviously much smaller (the built in one relies on an antenna as big as the battery) and therefore has a much shorter range.
The bottom line is so far I still like it better than GW, my only concern is that it mentioned that if it detects unusual root access in the OS, it will not operate. I don't plan on staying stock unrooted for too much longer!
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Update 2: The transaction cleared and now shows a "Isis RITEAID...." just adding the word Isis in front of what would be there anyway.
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I thought I should add, I've successfully used Isis in a lot of places and it works fine even with my case on. The last 4 digits of the credit card number used that appear on the receipt are different from the real number
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I would like to get a cheap phone for just listening to music and using running apps. I do not need to use it for phone calls, sms or anything, just wifi and gps.
I was leaning towards the Nexus one, S, but am open to other things. I am in Canada, so I don't know if getting US based carrier specific phones would work or not.
I would prefer to pay less than $100
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
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I would like to get a cheap phone for just listening to music and using running apps. I do not need to use it for phone calls, sms or anything, just wifi and gps.
I was leaning towards the Nexus one, S, but am open to other things. I am in Canada, so I don't know if getting US based carrier specific phones would work or not.
I would prefer to pay less than $100
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
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What's the point of caring about if it's specifically on a network? Lol your using it only for GPS and WiFi. By the way how are you gonna get the GPS to work without data?
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Gps doesn't need data to work
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Gps doesn't need data to work
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What about Google maps?
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That's a good point, is GPS part of data/sim or is it part of the phone regardless of sim cards?
My primary app I use for running is run keeper which utilizes GPS. If I can't do GPS then I wouldn't bother getting a second phone. I already have a great phone, but I really want to avoid using it for running.
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GPS always works no matter if you have a sim card in your phone or not. It is not dependent of it. You can try it yourself take your sim card out of your phone and turn on Gps. You will see it works just fine. I have a galaxy tab myself and it also has Gps support even without a sim card in it.
So to answer your question; it's part of the phone regardless of using a sim card or not.
About Google maps, it will be able to show your location and even give you a route description. The only thing that won't work without a data connection is navigation.
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cderrick14 said:
I would like to get a cheap phone for just listening to music and using running apps. I do not need to use it for phone calls, sms or anything, just wifi and gps.
I was leaning towards the Nexus one, S, but am open to other things. I am in Canada, so I don't know if getting US based carrier specific phones would work or not.
I would prefer to pay less than $100
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
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I say try E-Bay, and pick a seller with a good return policy.... I recently went through a couple phones, one of which was $50 and easy to repair.
joelvn said:
GPS always works no matter if you have a sim card in your phone or not. It is not dependent of it. You can try it yourself take your sim card out of your phone and turn on Gps. You will see it works just fine. I have a galaxy tab myself and it also has Gps support even without a sim card in it.
So to answer your question; it's part of the phone regardless of using a sim card or not.
About Google maps, it will be able to show your location and even give you a route description. The only thing that won't work without a data connection is navigation.
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Navigation is what I was trying to pin point lol. Though as long as your around a WiFi band or even use your current phone as a hotspot host, then any phone should be good for you! The nexus s is still kicking but if I was you I would at least aim for something with a 1ghz snapdragon processor, and 4.0 inches.
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Shryvone21 said:
Navigation is what I was trying to pin point lol. Though as long as your around a WiFi band or even use your current phone as a hotspot host, then any phone should be good for you! The nexus s is still kicking but if I was you I would at least aim for something with a 1ghz snapdragon processor, and 4.0 inches.
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I see, but for those running apps there is no need for any navigation whatsoever. They just check how much you ran and so on, and to check that a Gps connection is enough.
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joelvn said:
GPS always works no matter if you have a sim card in your phone or not. It is not dependent of it. You can try it yourself take your sim card out of your phone and turn on Gps. You will see it works just fine. I have a galaxy tab myself and it also has Gps support even without a sim card in it.
So to answer your question; it's part of the phone regardless of using a sim card or not.
About Google maps, it will be able to show your location and even give you a route description. The only thing that won't work without a data connection is navigation.
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To further explain, you can get apps like this free one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.navfree.android.OSM.USA that will let you download the maps when you are connected to Wi-Fi, and then use them without a sim or carrier connectivity.. Doing this, you can turn any Android with a working GPS into a personal GPS unit. I occasionally buy them off e-bay for $20-30, install that app, and give them away to people who suck at driving...
I'm looking for something on the smallish side. I legitimately will only use it for running and listening music. Something that is easy to hold in your hand is the ideal.
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I'm looking for something on the smallish side. I legitimately will only use it for running and listening music. Something that is easy to hold in your hand is the ideal.
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Probably an HTC one v because of the beats and I'm pretty sure you might can find it on eBay for a good price. Beats + acid= sweet love in your ears lol.
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I'm looking for something on the smallish side. I legitimately will only use it for running and listening music. Something that is easy to hold in your hand is the ideal.
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I don't exactly know how expensive a galaxy Y is as of now.(I bought it for 100 euros a year ago) But that might just be the solution for you. It is a small phone, easy on your hands and the Gps works great.
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That is exactly what I am now looking for. Thank you
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Probably an HTC one v because of the beats and I'm pretty sure you might can find it on eBay for a good price. Beats + acid= sweet love in your ears lol.
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I just noticed that Walgreens is not activating any of their nfc payment systems because of security issues and just today I found out that wawa gas stations no longer have them due to some type of issues they were having with malware with their system. Seems more companies are discontinuing their use over setting the systems up.
I hope they get this supposed security problem figured out soon. I love using my phone to pay.
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I just noticed that Walgreens is not activating any of their nfc payment systems because of security issues and just today I found out that wawa gas stations no longer have them due to some type of issues they were having with malware with their system. Seems more companies are discontinuing their use over setting the systems up.
I hope they get this supposed security problem figured out soon. I love using my phone to pay.
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This was only ever a pipe dream to be honest. Too many ways it can be hacked, far too insecure for real world use.
Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
I don't think the reason is security on the phone but on the unit in the store. The phone itself is more secure than using a debit card. If someone steals your card they are able to use it at most stores without ever being asked for id. My phone not only has a passcode but once you try to use the wallet app it asks for another code. Overall I think the security issue is with the store and if that can be resolved nfc payments can continue.
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This was only ever a pipe dream to be honest. Too many ways it can be hacked, far too insecure for real world use.
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When you say hacked, do you mean the phone or the unit at the store?
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Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
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I love people who speak with authority about things they clearly know nothing about. "Hack it with stickers"? You're delusional.
Mobile NFC payments are far more secure than any other form of physical payment.
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I love people who speak with authority about things they clearly know nothing about. "Hack it with stickers"? You're delusional.
Mobile NFC payments are far more secure than any other form of physical payment.
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I'd be a little more convinced if your name wasn't "LoveNFC".
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I'd be a little more convinced if your name wasn't "LoveNFC".
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If you could provide details about how a sticker can hack nfc then maybe you could have a point. But as far as all the research I have done nfc payments are more secure than paying with a debit card.
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If you could provide details about how a sticker can hack nfc then maybe you could have a point. But as far as all the research I have done nfc payments are more secure than paying with a debit card.
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Because the NFC tag can be set to many things like storing and sending the info used to pay. And it doesnt take much to reprogram the tag, They are about as safe as a debt card which we all know is not 100%
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Because the NFC tag can be set to many things like storing and sending the info used to pay. And it doesnt take much to reprogram the tag, They are about as safe as a debt card which we all know is not 100%
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What tag are you talking about. The phones use an nfc chip and the stores use an nfc system. No one uses a sticker. The stickers your talking about are the ones sold that can let you perform tasks on your phone. What do they have to do with making secure payments from the phone.
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What tag are you talking about. The phones use an nfc chip and the stores use an nfc system. No one uses a sticker. The stickers your talking about are the ones sold that can let you perform tasks on your phone. What do they have to do with making secure payments from the phone.
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Its the Same tech. I installed these in a few stores and saw how easy it would be to allow it to be reprogrammed.
That's why just like if you see a weird looking atm and don't use it you should not use an nfc scanner. Plus you can tell if their is some weird sticker on the nfc scanner. And this proves again that using your phone is not unsecure it's the system that is at the store that can be compromised by idiots. Plus if your Google wallet app doesn't activate after swiping then that should be an indication of something going wrong. Plus those nfc task stickers do not have access to the Google wallet app. So what your saying is flawed and not the reason why stores are removing the units. I think the units are being tampered with by people or the store employees and stores don't want to deal with this. With updated nfc systems this security issue can be resolved. It's just a matter if this makes money for Google. If it doesn't they will just scrap it
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Far, far too unsafe for public use. You can hack it with stickers for goodness sake.
Not to mention, people are far too moronic in the way and guard they use their phones to make this work. On an average day at Uni, I see about 200 phones I could nick without them noticing it. And consequentially use to pay for anything, because apparently people are not smart enough to realize that a pattern lock leaves a fingertrail. And their code is pretty much always a date of relevance. Which they've undoubtably mentioned somewhere on their Facebook.
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Just found out there's a new more secure nfc payment system. Saw it for the first time at toysrus. The swipe area for nfc payments is built in right to the touchscreen where you would enter prompts. This is a lot more secure and a solution to all these so called sticker problems. No one can put a sticker on the screen as it will block everyone from using it. Hopefully nfc payments get back on track. Just used mine at cvs and McDonald's
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Hey everyone!
I got my Nexus 5 last week and I feel that one of the features that is often overlooked in most of the reviews and forums is the "Tap & Pay" feature using NFC. I didn't try it out myself till a few days ago and it has turned out to be one of my top reasons to love the Nexus 5.
After you link the google wallet app to Tap & Pay and setup a pin, you are able to use your phone to make payment at PoS devices that support this feature. Now, a lot of people say this is very limited but I live and work in Jersey/NYC and a lot of major retailers have this option. ShopRite/ Walmart/ NYC cabs/ Pharmacies etc.
The best part is the look on people's faces when i whip out my Nexus 5, complete my transaction with a light tap and answer their questions with "It's the new Nexus 5 !! " Even my friends who have HTC One/S4/iPhone can't compete with that because they can't have google wallet due to stupid carrier/bank restrictions. Their version of google wallet, Isis, is nowhere as good and iBeacon (ios) isn't releasing anytime soon.
If you live in a major city, then there are bound to be a lot of places where this will come in handy. Anyone else have any experiences with Tap & Pay?
Definitely a cool feature. I tried this out last week for the first time ever. I have to see how many stores have this feature in Miami / ft Lauderdale. Coming from ios this say never possible.
Will be in NY next week
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Definitely a cool feature, but not limited to N5. I love the reaction I get when I use my phone for payment. Just today, at Sports Authority, I used Tap and a Pay, the cashier was definitely surprised, she asked about it and was so disappointed to hear that iPhones can't do the same thing.
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mevensen said:
Definitely a cool feature, but not limited to N5. I love the reaction I get when I use my phone for payment. Just today, at Sports Authority, I used Tap and a Pay, the cashier was definitely surprised, she asked about it and was so disappointed to hear that iPhones can't do the same thing.
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anyone figured out how to get this working in Australia?
The REAL and the only reason why I returned my Note3 back to T-Mobile, is for this tap-&-pay service through Google Wallet.
I've gotten fed up with all the carrier restrictions crap, and the fiasco with ISIS.
I really really do enjoy Google wallet with my Nexus 5.
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You returned a phone because you couldn't use NFC payment? haha, funny.
My credit card works all the time, everywhere, apart from Costco.
Mischaseb said:
anyone figured out how to get this working in Australia?
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I'm so desperate to have this in the UK as well! Does anyone have it working here?
setspeed said:
I'm so desperate to have this in the UK as well! Does anyone have it working here?
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You'd have to get the cards into google wallet, which it won't let you here.
OTOH since most of the functionality is now in the OS, it's entirely possible someone could write a tap & pay app using that framework that worked in the UK.
Since I live in Salt Lake City, I was in the test market for Isis. I must say it was pretty neat to be able to use my Note 2 to tap and pay to get on the transit system. The bad thing was, half way through my ride back home my phone died. The police on the transit system have NFC scanners that they use to verify if you actually paid with that device or not so having a dead phone wouldn't prove that you made a payment. In that case they either give you a ticket for a first offense or fine you and kick you off at the next stop. Thankfully they didn't check in time for me to get off at my stop.
I only used Google Wallet twice and it worked just as well as Isis, if not a bit faster.
I will say though, its either really cool when it works but its also really embarrassing when it doesn't. A few times I tried tapping the phone and nothing happened. Pretty awkward situation
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The police on the transit system have NFC scanners that they use to verify if you actually paid with that device or not
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Wow. I'm amazed that any police department would invest in the equipment and training to do this. Very cool.
I haven't gotten it to work yet. It's setup, and to be fair i've only tried at Walgreens....
I've been waiting for this feature in Canada since GNex time, but Google Wallet doesnt work here, and theres no alternative either..
How do you know if a register is NFC enabled? Is there a sign or something where you would normally swipe a card or something that says tap here?
I've been using NFC payment on my N4, and before that on a rooted S3 with the Xposed patch for Google Wallet. It always surprises people when I pay with my phone, and one woman (who runs a Pho restaurant near my offices) has to show everyone when I come in and pay with my phone.
I find a few things humorous about ISIS:
- ISIS is not available on the Nexus series of phones, even though they have the hardware and software to support it.
- ISIS SIMs are not available locally through the carrier, even after launch.
I hope ISIS succeeds, but if it doesn't I hope that Google will buy the consortium out and integrate them into Wallet.
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kgry said:
How do you know if a register is NFC enabled? Is there a sign or something where you would normally swipe a card or something that says tap here?
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How do you know if a register is NFC enabled? Is there a sign or something where you would normally swipe a card or something that says tap here?
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Look for either the NFC, Mastercard PayPass, Google Wallet, or Isis logos. Lot of the registers here in SLC has the Isis and Paypass logos.
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Wow. I'm amazed that any police department would invest in the equipment and training to do this. Very cool.
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These Utah cops don't play around. I'm not quite sure how the scanner actually determines whether or not you paid though. Maybe the device stores an ID in the system or something. They've been using the technology for years since University Students get an NFC card that grants them free rides.
I haven't tried an nfc payment on my nexus 5, even with my nexus 4, I have wanted too but I didn't want to be "that guy" at the register incase something goes wrong.
I would love to start using this.. unfortunately, google doesnt like anywhere else except US.. lol
No google wallet up here in Canada
Used it three times at McD and the guys there were blowing away. They all ask what app was that.
works flawlessly for me. seems faster too, though that may be a trick of the mind (coming from GNex)
My wallet account has credit card linked but I can't select it in the Tap and Pay settings screen. Wallet isn't even listed. ?