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[Q] T-Mobile Nexus S came with My T-Mobile app preinstalled in system partition?

Over at the Galaxy Nexus forums people are concerned that since the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus seems to come with the My Verizon Wireless app preinstalled in the /system partition, this means Verizon will provide updates to the device, not Google directly. Then somebody mentioned that his/her T-Mobile Nexus S comes with My T-Mobile app preinstalled in the /system partition too. Is there any truth to this? It would be good news for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus if in the past Google had included carrier-specific apps in /system and was still able to provide direct updates to that device.

I don't know about the T-Mobile one but my at&t version has no carrier brand stuff in it stock...I did download the myat&t app but it is not apart of the system.
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No preinstalled T-Mobile apps on my i9020T. Someone probably downloaded it after.
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Chirality said:
Over at the Galaxy Nexus forums people are concerned that since the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus seems to come with the My Verizon Wireless app preinstalled in the /system partition, this means Verizon will provide updates to the device, not Google directly. Then somebody mentioned that his/her T-Mobile Nexus S comes with My T-Mobile app preinstalled in the /system partition too. Is there any truth to this? It would be good news for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus if in the past Google had included carrier-specific apps in /system and was still able to provide direct updates to that device.
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I don't think this will have any effect on the distribution of updates.
The Vodafone Nexus One had carrier input on the updates (which did delay the updates) but they were distributed through Google still.
I would suspect that Verizon will supply the packages to Google to bundle with the update and they will be distributed as such.

funkiefresh said:
No preinstalled T-Mobile apps on my i9020T. Someone probably downloaded it after.
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The i9020T is the unlocked, generic version right?
Was there a T-Mobile specific version? If I remember correctly T-Mobile never sold it but I think BestBuy sold a T-Mobile subsidized version?

Chirality said:
The i9020T is the unlocked, generic version right?
Was there a T-Mobile specific version? If I remember correctly T-Mobile never sold it but I think BestBuy sold a T-Mobile subsidized version?
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The subsidized and unsubsidized were identical - it was literally the same device. No bloat on it at all.

T-Mobile never sold it so it wouldn't make sense to include T-Mobile software.

Canadian Galaxy Note 3 Users

Welcome fellow Canadians!
Seeing as the Galaxy Note 3 is going to be released in Canada very shortly (October 4th), I figured we should get some discussion going on where you're buying, and any speculations to price points.
I just got off of a chat with Telus, regarding an email I had received, offering $50 off a device when you sign a contract, OR, stay month-to-month. So you can save a bit of money for those who are purchasing the phone outright, or even signing up for a new contract. You need to call a special sales line: 1-877-279-3900
Also, while she couldn't officially confirm, the rep did tell me that she would strongly suggest I go to a corporate store on Friday.. Obviously this is just in case there are shipping delays (doubtful) but I think that it's quite safe to say that it's coming out on Friday!
Currently, Wind Mobile is the only carrier to officially announce their pricing, but I think that it would be safe to say that the other carriers will be in line (roughly) with Wind.
- WIND 40: $449
- WIND 30: $549
- WIND 33: $549
- WIND 20: $649
- Outright: $749
I was also able to "confirm" with the rep, that the price point for Telus would probably fall around $799, so that isn't too far off of Wind's pricing.
Discuss anything related to the Canadian launch of the Note 3! :laugh:

All I really want to know is if the bootloader will be locked like the US variants or did we escape it again like with the S4?
I will be getting mine outright from rogers.
sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2

force70 said:
All I really want to know is if the bootloader will be locked like the US variants or did we escape it again like with the S4?
I will be getting mine outright from rogers.
sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2
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I wonder how we'll be able to tell. I'm still on an S2 until Friday, but I don't think we ever had problems with the bootloader.
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I thought I heard it was locked but I have faith in xda that it won't last

redpill2016 said:
I thought I heard it was locked but I have faith in xda that it won't last
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Just like the s4 att and verizon will be locked down for sure but the canadian s4 has never been locked...hoping for the same with the n3
sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2

I have the octa unlocked version and am using it on bell, just got it today and am loving it
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I just checked out Mobilesyrup's review of the Galaxy S2X and it had an unlocked bootloader. If the S4 had an unlocked one as well, I'd be very hopeful that the Note 3 is unlocked as well, only time will tell! 4 more days..

Gunner86 said:
I have the octa unlocked version and am using it on bell, just got it today and am loving it
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LTE working on it?
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No LTE on the octa version
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Gunner86 said:
No LTE on the octa version
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Bummer....H+ is so slow..I def couldnt live without LTE.
sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2

force70 said:
Bummer....H+ is so slow..I def couldnt live without LTE.
sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2
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Good thing we only have 4 days left to wait!
On another note, how would one find out if the bootloader is unlocked or locked?
EDIT: Telus seems to have added the Note 3 as "Coming Soon" http://beta.telus.com/wireless/devices/samsung-galaxy-note-3/
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Which International Model Works Best In Canada N900 or N9005?
Hi Guys
As the title states, which model works best in Canada specifically on Bell, the N900 or N9005 model? Also will I get full LTE with the N9005 model? I've tried researching them and keep finding different answers. Sorry if this topic has been covered prior. Just sold my Xperia Z Ultra C6833 to jump over to the N3. Or should I wait for the Canadian release on Bell which I believe is this Friday Oct.4th?
Thanks Again

Teczguru said:
Hi Guys
As the title states, which model works best in Canada specifically on Bell, the N900 or N9005 model? Also will I get full LTE with the N9005 model? I've tried researching them and keep finding different answers. Sorry if this topic has been covered prior. Just sold my Xperia Z Ultra C6833 to jump over to the N3. Or should I wait for the Canadian release on Bell which I believe is this Friday Oct.4th?
Thanks Again
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Im having the same problem myself. Wondering which models will work on Rogers with LTE? Its difficult to understand the band and frequency numbers. I have never had to research a phone like this before I bought it. Some of the numbers match and some dont, does that mean it'll work? Or does it have to have every number matching?
But ya, my question is the same, will an unlocked N9005 LTE work on Rogers?

You can't quote me on this, but if you're looking for LTE, then the only version hat works would be the Qualcomm N9005. I believe the N9000 is the octa core 3G international version.
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Where did you get the Windmobile pricing from? their website still has no info of it.

AllGamer said:
Where did you get the Windmobile pricing from? their website still has no info of it.
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Hey AllGamer, nice to see you back from the Galaxy S2 days
I found the Wind Mobile pricing from Mobilesyrup: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/28/w...laxy-note-3-on-october-4th-heres-the-pricing/
Bell also announced their pricing today as well, off contract: $799.95 (http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/01/bell-samsung-galaxy-note-3-to-cost-799-95-outright/). Which is right around the pricing that the CSR told me yesterday.

Does anyone know for sure, 100%, if the T-Mobile version of the Note 3 will work on Wind? Normally this is the case, but I ask because the T-Mobile version is the snapdragon model whereas Wind is going to be carrying the Exynos model.
I really want the dev support, and from what i gather, dev support is going to be none-existent for the Exynos version? Or is this maybe not going to be as accurate as it is/was for the S4? Or am i wrong about the S4 here too? I just remember reading and hearing that samsung doesn't release source code for the kernel etc for the Exynos chips - which i don't understand fully because I did read a few posts about how samsung had released the source for the Note 3 (or maybe it was the Note 10.1 2014) with the Exynos chip...
can anyone shed light on these issues for me?
Specifically, four questions:
1. T-Mobile Snapdragon phone on Wind Mobile? (Or any other snapdragon phones on Wind?)
2. How does the dev support look like it will be for the Exynos version that Wind Mobile is going to be selling?
3. Does the source code that samsung released for the Exynos model of either the note 3 or note 10.1 2014 mean that they are releasing more source code than they used to for their Exynos chips? Or was this stuff all released for other chips too?
4. Do you guys know if there will be a way to purchase the Note 3 outright from wind if you are not going to be on a new contract? I'm on wind already and i want to keep my existing plan because it's a better deal than any plan they have had since they offered this one, but i obviously want to buy this phone friday... i know with the S3 i had to activate a new plan, but of course then i just threw out the new sim card - worry here is that one wind guy told me that for the first month they may not even allow outright purchases only purchases on the wind tab, in which case i couldn't just throw out the sim card and use my old one could i?

asaqwert said:
Does anyone know for sure, 100%, if the T-Mobile version of the Note 3 will work on Wind? Normally this is the case, but I ask because the T-Mobile version is the snapdragon model whereas Wind is going to be carrying the Exynos model.
I really want the dev support, and from what i gather, dev support is going to be none-existent for the Exynos version? Or is this maybe not going to be as accurate as it is/was for the S4? Or am i wrong about the S4 here too? I just remember reading and hearing that samsung doesn't release source code for the kernel etc for the Exynos chips - which i don't understand fully because I did read a few posts about how samsung had released the source for the Note 3 (or maybe it was the Note 10.1 2014) with the Exynos chip...
can anyone shed light on these issues for me?
Specifically, four questions:
1. T-Mobile Snapdragon phone on Wind Mobile? (Or any other snapdragon phones on Wind?)
2. How does the dev support look like it will be for the Exynos version that Wind Mobile is going to be selling?
3. Does the source code that samsung released for the Exynos model of either the note 3 or note 10.1 2014 mean that they are releasing more source code than they used to for their Exynos chips? Or was this stuff all released for other chips too?
4. Do you guys know if there will be a way to purchase the Note 3 outright from wind if you are not going to be on a new contract? I'm on wind already and i want to keep my existing plan because it's a better deal than any plan they have had since they offered this one, but i obviously want to buy this phone friday... i know with the S3 i had to activate a new plan, but of course then i just threw out the new sim card - worry here is that one wind guy told me that for the first month they may not even allow outright purchases only purchases on the wind tab, in which case i couldn't just throw out the sim card and use my old one could i?
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It seems to be $749 off contract, no idea about them selling them only after one month though.
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Mobilesyrup just announced the Rogers pricing as well: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/01/rogers-pricing-for-the-note-3-lumia-1020-and-galaxy-s4-mini/
$750 outright, $249 on 2yr contract.

I imported my N900 as soon as I could
I'm on Bell, everything is perfect. I have LTE coverage in my area but I can live without, no lte mean better battery and that what I need.
I did the same thing in the past for my Galaxy S4, I imported the Octa core too.
Been playing with it for almost a week now, awesome device!
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[Q]Buying Nexus 5 in Korea

Hi all, I want to buy n5 in south korea next week. I want to take it home in Indonesia unlocked, and I read in some websites that said that most of the phones there are contracted in 1-2 years.
so what I want to ask is: do they have place to buy phone freely(without contract) and unlocked(which means I can use it in Indonesia :laugh ?
thanks!

Nexus phones are always unlocked. And you can use Google play to buy the phone "freely".
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tangosierra_ said:
Nexus phones are always unlocked. And you can use Google play to buy the phone "freely".
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okay thanks for the answer :good:

[Q] Nexus 5 T-Mobile vs. Unlocked development?

Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money. ​

They're the exact same.
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No difference. Same phone
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Identical. Clones. One and the same. Indistinguishable.

Look the same even in the mirror!

galaxys said:
Look the same even in the mirror!
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No.. one has led on the right
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They all have 4G lte
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Nocturnal86 said:
It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?
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Lol I believe you guys, thats why I asked, T-Mo reps near me don't know anything

jbreeze228 said:
I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.
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Thanks guy, getting mine tomorrow as well! can't wait to start flashing again!

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They are all the same. There are no AT&T, T-Mobile, or Spring variants. A Nexus is a Nexus, all pure Google. The T-Mobile rep that told you otherwise was lying to you to get you to buy a device at a markup from them.

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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All I have to say is "lol... Uninformed salesmen".
They all have LTE there's no difference
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At least you came here first.
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mikeacela said:
Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money. ​
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Like everyone else said, it's the same phone. Google offers a subsidy on the phone when you directly buy from them, T-mobile will lose money if they do the same, so the pricing is mainly for business reasons. Go with whatever that's the cheapest for you, you won't notice any differences. Hope that helped

Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.

mikeacela said:
Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.
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A downside of getting it from T-Mobile is they only offer the 16gb version. Just something to take into consideration if that's not enough storage on a phone for you.
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Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums

mikeacela said:
Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums
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Enjoy!

Most Definitely!
Pirateghost said:
They all have 4G lte
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FYI, to reiterate, they are the same device. However, the reason for the price difference is because Google discounts the phone in the Play Store whereas T-Mobile is selling the device at the suggested retail price. It's nice to know that some carriers do allow people to own a pure Android device without carrier bloatware.

Purchasing of Nexus 5

Hello, I am going to buy this Nexus 5 in U.S. (NY) next week.
What should I know befor buying it? I am not from U.S. (from Israel).
What should I check or ensure?
I am going to buy it from T-MOBILT by the way.
Thank' guys!

You should know that you'll be buying the wrong version for use in Israel. There's two versions of the Nexus, one for North America (D820) and one for the rest of the world (D821), the difference being the radio bands that are supported, specifically the LTE bands. So while a North American model will work oversees for voice and 3G data, it won't for work 4G, as it doesn't support the proper bands.

Everything he said^^^^^^^. Also you should check out a few review videos on YouTube to get an idea of what the Nexus 5 has to offer.
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OuncE718 said:
Everything he said^^^^^^^. Also you should check out a few review videos on YouTube to get an idea of what the Nexus 5 has to offer.
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BirchBarlow said:
You should know that you'll be buying the wrong version for use in Israel. There's two versions of the Nexus, one for North America (D820) and one for the rest of the world (D821), the difference being the radio bands that are supported, specifically the LTE bands. So while a North American model will work oversees for voice and 3G data, it won't for work 4G, as it doesn't support the proper bands.
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Thank you both very much. T-MOBILE is good for me?

tzvi said:
Thank you both very much. T-MOBILE is good for me?
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T-Mobile is North American Version. See previous posts. No 4G!

rootSU said:
T-Mobile is North American Version. See previous posts. No 4G!
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reading comprehension is key to this forum.... too bad its not a skill everyone has.

Oh, got it. Zepius, if you are tired of explain things twice - go sleep. Sorry for no understanding.
Well, wher should I buy it than? Do you have a clue which stores in NY are reliable and not expensive?
Thanks.

tzvi said:
Oh, got it. Zepius, if you are tired of explain things twice - go sleep. Sorry for no understanding.
Well, wher should I buy it than? Do you have a clue which stores in NY are reliable and not expensive?
Thanks.
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You cannot buy a non American nexus in an American store. Buy it in Europe.
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rootSU said:
You cannot buy a non American nexus in an American store. Buy it in Europe.
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wEIRD. Do you know why Google do it? Thanks you, I'll just order it.

tzvi said:
wEIRD. Do you know why Google do it? Thanks you, I'll just order it.
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why would i, as an american, need to generally buy a phone that is meant for European countries?
the US uses different LTE bands than the European countries, so thats why the hardware (note: radio only bands only) is different.

tzvi said:
Hello, I am going to buy this Nexus 5 in U.S. (NY) next week.
What should I know befor buying it? I am not from U.S. (from Israel).
What should I check or ensure?
I am going to buy it from T-MOBILT by the way.
Thank' guys!
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http://www.myworldphone.com/ sells the international Nexus 5 D821. Their store is located in New York City (in Queens close to JFK Airport). You can do online chat with them to confirm before you depart home.