Over at the Galaxy Nexus forums people are concerned that since the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus seems to come with the My Verizon Wireless app preinstalled in the /system partition, this means Verizon will provide updates to the device, not Google directly. Then somebody mentioned that his/her T-Mobile Nexus S comes with My T-Mobile app preinstalled in the /system partition too. Is there any truth to this? It would be good news for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus if in the past Google had included carrier-specific apps in /system and was still able to provide direct updates to that device.
I don't know about the T-Mobile one but my at&t version has no carrier brand stuff in it stock...I did download the myat&t app but it is not apart of the system.
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No preinstalled T-Mobile apps on my i9020T. Someone probably downloaded it after.
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Chirality said:
Over at the Galaxy Nexus forums people are concerned that since the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus seems to come with the My Verizon Wireless app preinstalled in the /system partition, this means Verizon will provide updates to the device, not Google directly. Then somebody mentioned that his/her T-Mobile Nexus S comes with My T-Mobile app preinstalled in the /system partition too. Is there any truth to this? It would be good news for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus if in the past Google had included carrier-specific apps in /system and was still able to provide direct updates to that device.
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I don't think this will have any effect on the distribution of updates.
The Vodafone Nexus One had carrier input on the updates (which did delay the updates) but they were distributed through Google still.
I would suspect that Verizon will supply the packages to Google to bundle with the update and they will be distributed as such.
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No preinstalled T-Mobile apps on my i9020T. Someone probably downloaded it after.
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The i9020T is the unlocked, generic version right?
Was there a T-Mobile specific version? If I remember correctly T-Mobile never sold it but I think BestBuy sold a T-Mobile subsidized version?
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The i9020T is the unlocked, generic version right?
Was there a T-Mobile specific version? If I remember correctly T-Mobile never sold it but I think BestBuy sold a T-Mobile subsidized version?
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The subsidized and unsubsidized were identical - it was literally the same device. No bloat on it at all.
T-Mobile never sold it so it wouldn't make sense to include T-Mobile software.
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So, I've been running 4.03 with the UCKF1 radio since December, but I'm really wanting a stock update from Google. Why haven't they released anything for the 9020a at all? It's just a different radio from the 9020T and now the 9020T has seen 2 ICS revisions, while if I chose to only use the official OTA process, I'd still be on GB. Is Google finally going to release something for the 9020a now?
I don't believe anyone here can answer you with 100% certainty.
I still believe however that if we didn't see a release, there's a reason. But people aren't too good at the waiting game.
I'm starting to think 9020A may not be a nexus.
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I am pretty sure you won't see a difference. Might as well stick with what you have. Also 4.0.4 is out too
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Waiting for 4.0.4 for my nexus s...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
well it just a matter to wait and see....
According to JBQ, Google is waiting for Operator Approval. Same thing with Sprint...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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AT&T doesn't have anything to do with the software. They are just sent the ROMs for testing. Unless you are implying Google is adding it to Nexus devices?
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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At times like this I really do hate the North American carriers. I was pretty misinformed up to this point as to the nature of android updates on the nexus phones. I was always under this blissfully ignorant impression that it was fully under google's control to push updates at their sole discretion. Sort of like the advertising led me to believe.
So now that false belief has become painfully apparent to me, replaced with the knowledge that the carriers still have the ultimate say.
I doubt very much now that this update will be seen any time soon OTA in Canada if Telus has any say in the matter. Hopefully AT&T will authorize it soon so we can at least get a factory image we can flash ourselves.
Yes this wait is hella annoying especilly since i've been forced to use i9020t as base for mine but for those who are adventurous you can download the factory image for the i9020t from https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/soju-imm76d-factory-ca4ae9ee.tgz and slectively flash boot.img and system.img.
You just need to unlock bootloader (backup first it wipes device) download the archive, extract the boot.img and system.img and flash them.
The commands are:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Can't tell if trolling or not.....
What else is there that would require carrier approval?
Then again, perhaps the carriers selling the 9020A have been diligently testing a new radio file over the last three and a half months.
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They need to test a new radio because the at&t radios are slow on 3g. I have to use the older kb3 radio just to get barely usable 3g speed
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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You'll excuse carriers for not wanting to cripple their networks because some radios might be misbehaving...
Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
Not too long ago, everyone found GB to be nice and dandy, now everyone wants to flee from it like the plague. The update will come in due time, and I for one largely prefer a polished version rather than one with issues.
So far the ICS release has seen enough bugs, some that even warranted a pull on the plug. I don't feel the rush to upgrade to something that won't work right...
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So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
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I don't think there would be as much outrage if ICS hadn't been released for any version of the Nexus S yet.
It's not that people are upset that they don't have ICS; they're upset because some versions of the Nexus S have gotten updates while theirs have not.
Google promoted the Nexus line of phones as getting updates "as soon as they are available," because the updates are independent of the carriers, since they're supposed to come directly from Google. People were sold on the promise that there wouldn't be several months of delays between new Android versions and Nexus phone updates because it was a "pure Google" phone.
The news that apparently the carriers need to "approve" Nexus builds before Google pushes them out flies in the face of what Google told people they were getting.
The T-Mobile Nexus S now has 4.0.4, and my AT&T Nexus S doesn't even have 2.3.6 yet. So much for always having the latest available version.
That's why people are upset.
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So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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The delay is probably not just AT&T. Canadian carriers are known for taking longer to test updates than even AT&T. Who exactly Google is waiting on right now is not exactly clear.
I am eligible to upgrade my S3 to a Nexus 5 for $65.00 through Rogers.
Do the carrier versions vary from the Google Play ones at all? Is there Rogers bloatware on the device? Can I flash any ROM and perform anything on the device the exact same as if it were purchased from the Google Play store?
Secondly, I know that this may vary from carrier to carrier, but if I upgrade the device, will my contract start over again? I really don't want to deal with Rogers anymore.
Thanks!
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I am eligible to upgrade my S3 to a Nexus 5 for $65.00 through Rogers.
Do the carrier versions vary from the Google Play ones at all? Is there Rogers bloatware on the device? Can I flash any ROM and perform anything on the device the exact same as if it were purchased from the Google Play store?
Secondly, I know that this may vary from carrier to carrier, but if I upgrade the device, will my contract start over again? I really don't want to deal with Rogers anymore.
Thanks!
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All Nexus 5's *should be unlocked and Creepy carrier name free cough *rogers*
no bloatware.
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I am eligible to upgrade my S3 to a Nexus 5 for $65.00 through Rogers.
Do the carrier versions vary from the Google Play ones at all? Is there Rogers bloatware on the device? Can I flash any ROM and perform anything on the device the exact same as if it were purchased from the Google Play store?
Secondly, I know that this may vary from carrier to carrier, but if I upgrade the device, will my contract start over again? I really don't want to deal with Rogers anymore.
Thanks!
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The Nexus 5 is unlocked and free of bloatware no matter what carrier it's on and of course if Roger is willing to give you the N5 for $65.00 that means that they want you to sign some sort of contract for a year or 2.
Remember this phone is $350 (16gb) and $400 (32gb) so obviously you will have to sign a contract.
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The Nexus 5 is unlocked and free of bloatware no matter what carrier it's on and of course if Roger is willing to give you the N5 for $65.00 that means that they want you to sign some sort of contract for a year or 2.
Remember this phone is $350 (16gb) and $400 (32gb) so obviously you will have to sign a contract.
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Thank you
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Thank you
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You're welcome.
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Its not like there isn't 15 different threads about the exact same thing....next time search
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laker666 said:
Its not like there isn't 15 different threads about the exact same thing....next time search
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I tried searching things like 'nexus 5 carrier vs google play', 'nexus 5 att vs google play', 'nexus 5 carrier version', as well as search the first three pages of the forum, and could not find a thread that related to mine.
Thanks for the useful reply though. Especially your link to the others threads for future reference. I really appreciate it.
I'm with Verizon, I hate the bloatware they loaded on my phone.
Here are my questions:
If I go and buy an off contract phone like a Nexus5 or a MotoX, will I get updates direct from google/motorola? Or does it still get pushed out by my carrier?
I won't be limited for google wallet use (meaning no isis)?
It won't be loaded with bloatware?
I just got a Nexus7 (1st Gen, great price and performance for me) and think its wonderful and smooth. I want the same experience in a phone.
Thanks,
Yes to all of that, unless you consider Google apps bloatware. It's a Nexus...free and clear of carrier...
You do know that the nexus doesn't work on verizon though?
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Nexus updates are pushed by Google.
The moto x updates are run through the carrier first.
You can use Google wallet tap to pay on both devices.
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I'm on T-Mobile network, but my phone was purchased from the Google store, so not a T-Mobile branded device.
I'm rooted stock 5.0.1 right now, and wondering if this OTA ROM will be the T-Mobile version or just vanilla Google?
I'd actually like the T-Mobile version with the Wi-Fi calling feature - I've always been disappointed that unless I purchase a T-Mobile branded phone (exactly the same device) I can't have this feature. Obviously I need to remove a lot of the T-Mobile boat after the fact.
Appreciate replies.
There is no tmo version of any nexus firmware. And WiFi calling is not available on the n5.
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Quick background story, I've been using an HTC phone since the M7, and owned all the M Flagships and currently using an AT&T Branded M9. My wife is currently using a AT&T branded Galaxy S5. I really liked how open my HTC phones are, and all 3 of them had been able to be Fully SIM Unlocked, S-OFF, and can run any compatible ROM. The AT&T Branded GS5 of course only can use AT&T Software and its been a pain waiting on AT&T for patches and updates.
We're planning to replace them both with new Galaxy S7s and since we're planning to buy them outright, my question is which one should we buy? From I read it looks like all units have the same hardware, but the TMO variants seems to at least have the bootloader unlocked and should be SIM Unlocked if I bought it outright.
Our basic requirements.
- Sim unlocked(able)
- Bootloader Unlocked(able)
- Able to use Android Pay/Samsung Pay in the USA
- Rooting is nice but not required, and as long as it don't break A.Pay/S.Pay
- Able to work on AT&T with little or no issue (not missing any LTE Bands, etc)
- Open to get the Exynos model if can still support A.Pay/S.Pay in USA and elsewhere.
- Able to flash debloated or custom ROMs if needed
Its been awhile since i did any work on any Samsung Phones, so I don't know if its just as easy to flash ROMs and Recoveries like my HTCs
Thanks for any feedback on the matter.
You want the tmo version.
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You want the tmo version.
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It figures as much. How easy or difficult is it to flash non-carrier rom? I know people are just started getting their S7s, did the s6 have any issues with flashing a clean rom and keeping all A.Pay and S.Pay?
There's no development currently on these phones since the sources haven't dropped yet since the phone hasn't technically launched, after mar 11 samsung will release some sources.
If you're looking to remove bloat on non-rooted phones your only options is this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en with a rooted rom android/samsung pay wont work.
Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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Hmmm, still missing out on Samsung Pay eh, I wonder if there would be a non-carrier version of the phone we can get in the states with full support of all avaliable features and services. :fingers-crossed:
I'd like to bump this old thread for updates now that the S7 has been around for some time. I'm looking to get an S7, and it looks like the G930U variant might be the one to get now- is that right? I have the same requirements as the original poster, but I'll list them anyway:
-Able to work on AT&T with no issue (I read somewhere that some aspects of AT&T LTE are not supported? What impact does this have?)
-root is required (is it true that rooting prevents being able to encrypt the phone?)
-no bloat or bloat is removable (seems this is the main benefit of G930U?)
-SD card slot (seems like all US models have the SD card slot?)
Are there different versions of the G930U? Is this, for example, the right one: http://a.co/6QgYIxA ?
Thanks