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[OFFTOPIC] The Nexus Line Is Dead in the US?

@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?

I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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onthecouchagain said:
@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
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castro08 said:
I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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I could be mistaken. Thanks for clarifying. That's good.

The NS4G includes some special sprint apks with functionality to allow flashing the PRL and profile. I don't see why it's out of the question to have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus support similar stuff.
ICS has functionality to disable built-in applications on /system if you don't want them anyway.
The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.

fastboot oem unlock

REALLY?
ICS has a new feature to disable apps.
That said if you buy a dev phone you will format and flash anyway so who cares? Not me anyway.

I'm unprepared to speak on the state of the Nexus before I even hold the new one in my hand. As a T-Mobile customer, the launch has been disappointing, but only as much so as it was for customers of every other carrier when the Nexus S launched.

I wouldn't say the nexus line is dead more than its not in the spot light
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We have never had a Nexus phone launch with a carrier partner before, so we have nothing to compare it to.
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superm1 said:
The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.

nickmv said:
Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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The Galaxy nexus is launching in Canada on Bell. So there will be a Galaxy nexus with AT&T compatible frequencies.

nickmv said:
Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone
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So far I have no reason to be concerned about it. First of all, the merger may well not go through. Second, if it does go through, there's no way it will before the middle of next year. Third, even if there are no further technical, business, or legal issues from that point on it's highly unlikely they'll start disassembling the T-Mobile network for at least a few months after the deal closes. Fourth, it's part of the merger terms that T-Mobile customers will get new phones when the switch happens. Fifth, since the GSM Galaxy Nexus works on AT&T and T-Mobile bands, there's a good chance it will work on a combined network anyway.
So I wouldn't go so far as to mute your cautionary note- even with those caveats there are still important concerns- but I would perhaps turn it down a notch or two.

Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?

Yeah it probably will work on both carriers. Good point there. So that part of my argument I guess is moot.
I still stand by my opinion on the TRUE Nexus experience having disappeared when the NS4G came out.

irishrally said:
Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
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The Galaxy Nexus is the first pentaband phone running Android. It will run on any GSM 3G network in the world.

Wait a sec though.....thats 3g. NOT 4g. What's the deal with HSPA+ compatibility bands? I guess I'm not QUITE ready to ditch the ATT/T-Mo issue yet.

It's pentaband hspa+ which by default means it will also be pentaband 3g
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there are also confirming some GN are coming SIM LOCKED! by the carriers
bloatware + SIM locking is everything against the basic ideal behind Nexus
so, in a way, seems like Nexus is slowly fading away... it just seems to stand for new AOSP now, no more of its original self
even the hardware has been sucking since Nexus S
it's sinking into a mere reference phone for development

In the US, the average consumer prefers the carrier-subsidized model, they have shown this with their wallets.
Nexus One tried selling from just a website.
Nexus S tried selling in a big box retailer.
Galaxy Nexus is now carrier-subsidized, carrier-branded.
As I think irishrally already said, as long as fastboot oem unlock is enabled, just accept that as all we really want anway

nickmv said:
That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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I really hope sprint didn't waste money on wallet 4g users are such a small subset I think its a small beta and with sprint nit having many people soo
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[Q] Rogers xt925 Jelly Bean

Any word on if Jelly Bean is still on coarse to be released later this month?
Or had it been delayed again...

richport29 said:
Any word on if Jelly Bean is still on coarse to be released later this month?
Or had it been delayed again...
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According to mobilesyrup, "early February" now. Looks like it isn't too far away.
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Dammit
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/GeneralCareSupport/thread-id/355
I got my Fido RAZR HD from Canada yesterday - presumably Fido have the same update schedule as Rogers?
Still waiting for a SIM unlock code at the moment, so I can't even use it yet, booo

danifunker said:
According to mobilesyrup, "early February" now. Looks like it isn't too far away.
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I'll believe it when it's released. I was told "Late November" when I bought my Razr HD. Slipped nearly 3 months already. I'm expecting March, honestly. I think there's something in Rogers bloatware that isn't transitioning to JB well, and that's the holdup. No other good reason for it to take this long, since other XT925 have JB since Dec.

Hah, yeah you may be right about the bloatware it should be exactly the same as the international version (e.g. Euro models got JB late November), but with slightly different radio firmware...
It is pretty strange and frustrating rolling back from a two year old Nexus S on 4.1.2 to a brand new RHD on 4.0.4!

I know the feeling. My last phone was a Motorola Defy on CMX 4.1.2, and that phone started on Eclair.

Mods, this thread should be moved the Q&A since it isn't development related.
Next, about Rogers; I don't believe that it's their bloatware. I think they have resource problems with carrier testing. All of the updates I've seen issued from Rogers Motorola devices have had build dates months behind then when it was actually released. I wouldn't be suprised if the Rogers JB 4.1 build is dated October 2012. I think Rogers should setup some kind of early testing program for people who want updates on their phones faster, which would allow the user population to do the testing for them. I'm an IT guy and expect some problems with my technology, if I can help the company sort out bugs faster than they can find them I think we would all be a lot happier.
FYI, the Fido and Rogers firmware are the same build. When you put in a Fido SIM card, it removes the Rogers bloat and installs the Fido bloat.
Finally, until anybody has actually used a Verizon branded Motorola device, please don't talk about "bloatware" like it's so bad... We have like 8 apps that we can freeze, you should see what's on some of those VZW phones...

Haha, ok agreed on the Verizon bloatware... let's maybe just call it fluffware or something
Interestingly, when I got my Fido device, I put my T-Mo UK SIM in straight away and it did not prompt me to install crap at startup (i.e. with this).
So afaics, there is no fluffware on my phone!
Sad and annoying to hear about Rogers' testing bottleneck, but one has to wonder why they need to test so extensively anyway (vs. Euro operators for example). I mean, even Verizon beat them to the punch this time, and they have a horrendous rep for delaying firmware updates!
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Canada-Telus Jellybean 4.3 Update

From Telus Customer Service team on Oct 28th 2013.
Our Data Team advised me that TELUS typically follows 'Verizon's' by 2-3 weeks after their launch of the 4.3 update; and Verizon is very close to their launch.
That said, I recommend that you check the TELUS site for our release going forward. http://mobility.telus.com/en/BC/Samsung-Galaxy-S4/

Should be a day before AT&T... at least that's the way the skyrocket/s3 updates were. We all know how speedy AT&T is at releasing updates and seems Canada loves those timelines.
All I want is the modem. Could care less about the rest as there are so many 4.3 updated ROMS available.
Would be nice if we were on the current android build before 4.4 is released... I doubt that will happen though
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It would really be nice if the upgrade cycle follows close to Google release schedule for the flagship devices.
I only got the Samsung S4 else i would have waited out for N5

mymusicathome said:
Should be a day before AT&T... at least that's the way the skyrocket/s3 updates were. We all know how speedy AT&T is at releasing updates and seems Canada loves those timelines.
All I want is the modem. Could care less about the rest as there are so many 4.3 updated ROMS available.
Would be nice if we were on the current android build before 4.4 is released... I doubt that will happen though
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Looks like Samsung lost the plot on this one. Google ended up releasing 4.4 before Samsung could release 4.3 for S4 devices world wide.
Thumbs down for Samsung on this.

Samsung north america sucks
How is that the Samsung S3 in Europe gets Jelly Bean before S4 in North America
Looks like the North America market is not important enough for Samsung
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_43_for_samsung_galaxy_s_iii_rolling_out_now-news-7121.php

In Europe is Samsung who is pushing the update, in the states is all up to att and other carriers.
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Samsung should be pushing the update in North America, leave it to the phone owners from where they want to install the updates?
from Samsung link or their own phone carrier link.

i31us said:
Samsung should be pushing the update in North America, leave it to the phone owners from where they want to install the updates?
from Samsung link or their own phone carrier link.
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thanks captain obvious! Samsung would if they could, but the north american cell companies, in an attempt to keep us under their thumb, want the last say in what content, options and monitoring software our phones provide/hinder us with, and therefore refuse to buy the cell phones without doing the updates themselves.

TRusselo said:
thanks captain obvious! Samsung would if they could, but the north american cell companies, in an attempt to keep us under their thumb, want the last say in what content, options and monitoring software our phones provide/hinder us with, and therefore refuse to buy the cell phones without doing the updates themselves.
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Then it is not our phones... It is their phones in our hands.
The cell carriers in Canada are just plain bad...

its not just canada, its the united states too... strike that. the u.s. (no offence) is worse. look at att requesting locked bootloaders on the S4 and other samsung devices now.... thats... just wrong.
the best thing you can do to stay updated is what you are doing here. run custom software. to stay the most "up-to-date" you will have to run ports of nexus roms, Ports of Touchwiz roms, or ASOP derivatives.
as im finding out, it looks like us canadian guys can flash any ATT rom, if we immediately flash a Tmobile kernel with the same android version number. Tmo device is almost the same and without locked bootloaders but lacks NFC but nfc has no dependencies on the kernel apparently.

the ridiculous part is having to wait on the modems to catch up with everyone else and not have to worry about stupid data drops using an i337m

[Q] Nexus 5 T-Mobile vs. Unlocked development?

Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money. ​

They're the exact same.
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No difference. Same phone
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Identical. Clones. One and the same. Indistinguishable.

Look the same even in the mirror!

galaxys said:
Look the same even in the mirror!
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No.. one has led on the right
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They all have 4G lte
Sent from my Nexus 5

Nocturnal86 said:
It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?
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Lol I believe you guys, thats why I asked, T-Mo reps near me don't know anything

jbreeze228 said:
I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.
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Thanks guy, getting mine tomorrow as well! can't wait to start flashing again!

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
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They are all the same. There are no AT&T, T-Mobile, or Spring variants. A Nexus is a Nexus, all pure Google. The T-Mobile rep that told you otherwise was lying to you to get you to buy a device at a markup from them.

mikeacela said:
Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
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All I have to say is "lol... Uninformed salesmen".
They all have LTE there's no difference
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At least you came here first.
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mikeacela said:
Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money. ​
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Like everyone else said, it's the same phone. Google offers a subsidy on the phone when you directly buy from them, T-mobile will lose money if they do the same, so the pricing is mainly for business reasons. Go with whatever that's the cheapest for you, you won't notice any differences. Hope that helped

Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.

mikeacela said:
Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.
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A downside of getting it from T-Mobile is they only offer the 16gb version. Just something to take into consideration if that's not enough storage on a phone for you.
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Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums

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Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums
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Enjoy!

Most Definitely!
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They all have 4G lte
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FYI, to reiterate, they are the same device. However, the reason for the price difference is because Google discounts the phone in the Play Store whereas T-Mobile is selling the device at the suggested retail price. It's nice to know that some carriers do allow people to own a pure Android device without carrier bloatware.

Anyone know anything about the T-Mobile / Sprint variant of the Tab S6 Android 10?!

Been trying to find something about this variant with no luck just got the April security update but no Android 10..

I have the T-Mobile variant (SM-T867U). I called T-Mobile and they could tell be nothing. I also read somewhere that the Verizon variant had the update rolling out maybe 2 weeks ago. It seems like the delay is with T-Mobile at this point. I also asked about being able to beta test and was told there's no option for customers to beta test with T-Mobile. Looks like we just have to wait and watch our toe nails grow.

Tmobile is always last to get any sort of update. We're usually last for updates on my S20U

whouston.jr said:
I have the T-Mobile variant (SM-T867U). I called T-Mobile and they could tell be nothing. I also read somewhere that the Verizon variant had the update rolling out maybe 2 weeks ago. It seems like the delay is with T-Mobile at this point. I also asked about being able to beta test and was told there's no option for customers to beta test with T-Mobile. Looks like we just have to wait and watch our toe nails grow.
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Yeah mine is the Sprint Variant and still nothing.. in the past with my other devices I usually always received updates before Verizon and others... Not this time around

imtjnotu said:
Tmobile is always last to get any sort of update. We're usually last for updates on my S20U
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I'm super annoyed with T-Mobile on this but saying they are always last is silly. It is such wide variance with literally every carrier. Sometimes T-Mobile seems on top of it and at other times it's ridiculously delayed. In the case of the Galaxy Tab devices, it's clear that Samsung barely keeps support going for each variant and T-Mobile has almost no focus on supporting them. That has been consistent for at least 2 years now and it has caused me to completely switch over to an iPad Pro.

Tundrok said:
I'm super annoyed with T-Mobile on this but saying they are always last is silly. It is such wide variance with literally every carrier. Sometimes T-Mobile seems on top of it and at other times it's ridiculously delayed. In the case of the Galaxy Tab devices, it's clear that Samsung barely keeps support going for each variant and T-Mobile has almost no focus on supporting them. That has been consistent for at least 2 years now and it has caused me to completely switch over to an iPad Pro.
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When it comes to the major 4 carriers in the US, the Tmobile variant is always last to get every firmware update. Verizon is usually first, and Tmobile is mostly always last

Hi i got the tab s6 from tmobile and i have doubts if is a good idea to flash it firmware to international or other variant of it?

Still waiting for Tmobile ?

Still waiting on tmobile too anyone has patched the German or UK firmware on their tab s6 just want to know if the LTE Bands works here fine the bans is my only concern here ?????

I'm guessing we aren't getting it

avid_droid said:
Yep. Disgusted with the lack of security updates for the Tab S6. You pay 725 with Tnobile and get an outdated tablet and just stays outdated. This is a shame. They should be charging cheaper for an outdated tablet.
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Damn, I really wished I researched this before latching on to TMobile for S6. Didn't realize a lack of root for this tablet was in at as well. Oh well. Hopefully a solution will happen soon enough

Downloaded the UK and German version and attempted to install with ODIN, patched and unpatched. Got a Fail each time.
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Wish we at least get a SM-T867U1 version so we could get an unbranded Tab.

avid_droid said:
I spoke with tech support the other day and they said they've already received numerous calls. She said she made a note and emailed the team to find out what the hold up is. So hopefully soon we receive the update. Its a shame to pay 725 for an outdated tablet with no support.
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This was a lie from support. They didn’t do anything whatsoever without giving you some sort of issue tracking number. They say all sorts of BS to appease customers

avid_droid said:
Yep. Kinda figured that. It was funny though. At first she was like," android 10 is the firmware on the device and was pushed out." Then when she checked again she was like, " sorry, Samsung hasn't pushed the update." Then in which I told her that wasn't true because it has been pushed and tmobile hasn't released it. Im just irritated that we pay 725 for it and its outdated. Tmobile shouldn't be doing that kind of crap.
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Yeah man, it's freakin disappointing. I'm still within my 14 day return, so I definitely been thinking about that....
I can't even root the thing because there's no OEM unlock in the developer settings

avid_droid said:
I spoke with tech support the other day and they said they've already received numerous calls. She said she made a note and emailed the team to find out what the hold up is. So hopefully soon we receive the update. Its a shame to pay 725 for an outdated tablet with no support.
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Greatness83 said:
Yeah man, it's freakin disappointing. I'm still within my 14 day return, so I definitely been thinking about that....
I can't even root the thing because there's no OEM unlock in the developer settings
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Return it! Seriously. It is definitely not worth the price because even Samsung barely maintains tablet support. All of their focus is on a new tablet to compete with iPad Pro anyway.

Regret getting mine bow from Tmobile. I'm just going to pay it off and sell it for the new iPad

It's released
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/28/samsung-galaxy-tab-s6-android-10/

imtjnotu said:
Regret getting mine bow from Tmobile. I'm just going to pay it off and sell it for the new iPad
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Getting it now
Sent from my Samsung SM-T867U using XDA Labs

Now people can stop crying about updates
Sent from my Samsung SM-T867U using XDA Labs

BROKEN1981 said:
Now people can stop crying about updates
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It's not about "crying" so to speak.
It's about paying $700+ for a machine that should be kept up to date with the latest software