Any word on if Jelly Bean is still on coarse to be released later this month?
Or had it been delayed again...
richport29 said:
Any word on if Jelly Bean is still on coarse to be released later this month?
Or had it been delayed again...
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According to mobilesyrup, "early February" now. Looks like it isn't too far away.
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Dammit
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/GeneralCareSupport/thread-id/355
I got my Fido RAZR HD from Canada yesterday - presumably Fido have the same update schedule as Rogers?
Still waiting for a SIM unlock code at the moment, so I can't even use it yet, booo
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According to mobilesyrup, "early February" now. Looks like it isn't too far away.
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I'll believe it when it's released. I was told "Late November" when I bought my Razr HD. Slipped nearly 3 months already. I'm expecting March, honestly. I think there's something in Rogers bloatware that isn't transitioning to JB well, and that's the holdup. No other good reason for it to take this long, since other XT925 have JB since Dec.
Hah, yeah you may be right about the bloatware it should be exactly the same as the international version (e.g. Euro models got JB late November), but with slightly different radio firmware...
It is pretty strange and frustrating rolling back from a two year old Nexus S on 4.1.2 to a brand new RHD on 4.0.4!
I know the feeling. My last phone was a Motorola Defy on CMX 4.1.2, and that phone started on Eclair.
Mods, this thread should be moved the Q&A since it isn't development related.
Next, about Rogers; I don't believe that it's their bloatware. I think they have resource problems with carrier testing. All of the updates I've seen issued from Rogers Motorola devices have had build dates months behind then when it was actually released. I wouldn't be suprised if the Rogers JB 4.1 build is dated October 2012. I think Rogers should setup some kind of early testing program for people who want updates on their phones faster, which would allow the user population to do the testing for them. I'm an IT guy and expect some problems with my technology, if I can help the company sort out bugs faster than they can find them I think we would all be a lot happier.
FYI, the Fido and Rogers firmware are the same build. When you put in a Fido SIM card, it removes the Rogers bloat and installs the Fido bloat.
Finally, until anybody has actually used a Verizon branded Motorola device, please don't talk about "bloatware" like it's so bad... We have like 8 apps that we can freeze, you should see what's on some of those VZW phones...
Haha, ok agreed on the Verizon bloatware... let's maybe just call it fluffware or something
Interestingly, when I got my Fido device, I put my T-Mo UK SIM in straight away and it did not prompt me to install crap at startup (i.e. with this).
So afaics, there is no fluffware on my phone!
Sad and annoying to hear about Rogers' testing bottleneck, but one has to wonder why they need to test so extensively anyway (vs. Euro operators for example). I mean, even Verizon beat them to the punch this time, and they have a horrendous rep for delaying firmware updates!
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So, this was just posted on the T-Mobile UK site. I hope this means the US side will be following suit in the same time frame. This is the first "official" word Ive seen of a 2.2 update coming down the pipe. Just thought maybe that meant AT&T wouldn't be far behind with their update...
~T.J.
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=801038132d6a86012b3763ab0b007e4e
This really sucks! At&t hasn't sent me any updates on anything not even FOTA yet and I purchased this Captivate a day after it came out. Now T-mobile will be recieving the first update Froyo for GalaxyS! Ugh! I'm getting frustrated!
Ok. I am a newbe. I got the Captivate about 1 week ago. everyone is talking about Froyo and I am ready for it. Today I went to menu>settings>software update.
it check and updated something. nothing major display changed.
If I go to About Phone in system settings it says 2.1 update1. I am not sure what it said before. I am assuming From what I have read Froyo is 2.2.
So i Guess I got my hopes up for nothing.
I have checked for updates about everyday and today it had one yesterday it had nothing.
Just FYI
That's T-Mo UK, not US. Also, that references the Galaxy S, not the Vibrant. T-mo UK carries the i9000 Galaxy S, not the T-959 Vibrant that T-Mobile US sells.
UK - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/samsung-galaxy-s/
US - http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Vibrant
Just FYI...
So, I've been running 4.03 with the UCKF1 radio since December, but I'm really wanting a stock update from Google. Why haven't they released anything for the 9020a at all? It's just a different radio from the 9020T and now the 9020T has seen 2 ICS revisions, while if I chose to only use the official OTA process, I'd still be on GB. Is Google finally going to release something for the 9020a now?
I don't believe anyone here can answer you with 100% certainty.
I still believe however that if we didn't see a release, there's a reason. But people aren't too good at the waiting game.
I'm starting to think 9020A may not be a nexus.
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I am pretty sure you won't see a difference. Might as well stick with what you have. Also 4.0.4 is out too
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Waiting for 4.0.4 for my nexus s...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
well it just a matter to wait and see....
According to JBQ, Google is waiting for Operator Approval. Same thing with Sprint...
fdlm82 said:
i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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AT&T doesn't have anything to do with the software. They are just sent the ROMs for testing. Unless you are implying Google is adding it to Nexus devices?
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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At times like this I really do hate the North American carriers. I was pretty misinformed up to this point as to the nature of android updates on the nexus phones. I was always under this blissfully ignorant impression that it was fully under google's control to push updates at their sole discretion. Sort of like the advertising led me to believe.
So now that false belief has become painfully apparent to me, replaced with the knowledge that the carriers still have the ultimate say.
I doubt very much now that this update will be seen any time soon OTA in Canada if Telus has any say in the matter. Hopefully AT&T will authorize it soon so we can at least get a factory image we can flash ourselves.
Yes this wait is hella annoying especilly since i've been forced to use i9020t as base for mine but for those who are adventurous you can download the factory image for the i9020t from https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/soju-imm76d-factory-ca4ae9ee.tgz and slectively flash boot.img and system.img.
You just need to unlock bootloader (backup first it wipes device) download the archive, extract the boot.img and system.img and flash them.
The commands are:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
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Can't tell if trolling or not.....
What else is there that would require carrier approval?
Then again, perhaps the carriers selling the 9020A have been diligently testing a new radio file over the last three and a half months.
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They need to test a new radio because the at&t radios are slow on 3g. I have to use the older kb3 radio just to get barely usable 3g speed
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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You'll excuse carriers for not wanting to cripple their networks because some radios might be misbehaving...
Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
Not too long ago, everyone found GB to be nice and dandy, now everyone wants to flee from it like the plague. The update will come in due time, and I for one largely prefer a polished version rather than one with issues.
So far the ICS release has seen enough bugs, some that even warranted a pull on the plug. I don't feel the rush to upgrade to something that won't work right...
My 2 cents
So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
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I don't think there would be as much outrage if ICS hadn't been released for any version of the Nexus S yet.
It's not that people are upset that they don't have ICS; they're upset because some versions of the Nexus S have gotten updates while theirs have not.
Google promoted the Nexus line of phones as getting updates "as soon as they are available," because the updates are independent of the carriers, since they're supposed to come directly from Google. People were sold on the promise that there wouldn't be several months of delays between new Android versions and Nexus phone updates because it was a "pure Google" phone.
The news that apparently the carriers need to "approve" Nexus builds before Google pushes them out flies in the face of what Google told people they were getting.
The T-Mobile Nexus S now has 4.0.4, and my AT&T Nexus S doesn't even have 2.3.6 yet. So much for always having the latest available version.
That's why people are upset.
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So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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The delay is probably not just AT&T. Canadian carriers are known for taking longer to test updates than even AT&T. Who exactly Google is waiting on right now is not exactly clear.
If you were going to buy outright and unlocked, which version of the one x would you buy?
I know that the AT&T version of the phone had some better benchmark results along with better battery life results, but I know that can be adjusted through rom/kernel, etc.
So which would you buy outright?
The international version (Im not in an LTE market) or the ATT version?
The AT&T version without a doubt. That is, if the 16gb of storage is not an issue.
i bought outright, and i got the at&t one
would opt for the Rogers
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i bought outright, and i got the at&t one
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+1...but the locked bootloader is pretty awful and is making me reconsider.
shinji21 said:
would opt for the Rogers
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Probably this. It has the HTC branding instead of AT&T... and it also has the S4 processor which has been proven to be at least on par with Tegra3 or better. Its also been proven to be better at battery life.
Also, no locked bootloader.
The international versions has had some graphical bugs and other issues, probably related to the Tegra drivers. Some folks over in the "other" forum are saying not to expect a fix from Nvidia any time soon on this.
Also, what if they end up launching LTE in your areas sometime soon? Could be a cause for regret.
The additional storage, and probable better dev support are the only real benefits of the international version, IMO.
AT&T/HTC kept the bootloader on the Vivid locked for about a month after that phone's release. I'm not worried about it, as I think a similar thing will happen with the One X.
Yeah I just sent my 32Gb baby back for a refund due to flickering getting worse n worse. I dont know if I can live with 9.9gb but I am gonna try because I loved the phone but couldnt deal with the flickering once it got bad.
The Rogers XL. In fact, I just snagged one.
Beamed from my Rogers HTC One XL
Is there a site we can order the rogers one X from or do we just have to find us a canadian friend or hope ebay has one?
Oh no locked boot loader but it will be unlocked in a month?? Oh no the world is over smh
I bought mine outright , had a 'review unit' for a week prior. Best update, was worth the $704 (Ontario HST Included) I spent on it.
.. delegated by Nigerian princes
I'd pick the AT&T version, even if not just for LTE.
From Telus Customer Service team on Oct 28th 2013.
Our Data Team advised me that TELUS typically follows 'Verizon's' by 2-3 weeks after their launch of the 4.3 update; and Verizon is very close to their launch.
That said, I recommend that you check the TELUS site for our release going forward. http://mobility.telus.com/en/BC/Samsung-Galaxy-S4/
Should be a day before AT&T... at least that's the way the skyrocket/s3 updates were. We all know how speedy AT&T is at releasing updates and seems Canada loves those timelines.
All I want is the modem. Could care less about the rest as there are so many 4.3 updated ROMS available.
Would be nice if we were on the current android build before 4.4 is released... I doubt that will happen though
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It would really be nice if the upgrade cycle follows close to Google release schedule for the flagship devices.
I only got the Samsung S4 else i would have waited out for N5
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Should be a day before AT&T... at least that's the way the skyrocket/s3 updates were. We all know how speedy AT&T is at releasing updates and seems Canada loves those timelines.
All I want is the modem. Could care less about the rest as there are so many 4.3 updated ROMS available.
Would be nice if we were on the current android build before 4.4 is released... I doubt that will happen though
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Looks like Samsung lost the plot on this one. Google ended up releasing 4.4 before Samsung could release 4.3 for S4 devices world wide.
Thumbs down for Samsung on this.
Samsung north america sucks
How is that the Samsung S3 in Europe gets Jelly Bean before S4 in North America
Looks like the North America market is not important enough for Samsung
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_43_for_samsung_galaxy_s_iii_rolling_out_now-news-7121.php
In Europe is Samsung who is pushing the update, in the states is all up to att and other carriers.
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Samsung should be pushing the update in North America, leave it to the phone owners from where they want to install the updates?
from Samsung link or their own phone carrier link.
i31us said:
Samsung should be pushing the update in North America, leave it to the phone owners from where they want to install the updates?
from Samsung link or their own phone carrier link.
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thanks captain obvious! Samsung would if they could, but the north american cell companies, in an attempt to keep us under their thumb, want the last say in what content, options and monitoring software our phones provide/hinder us with, and therefore refuse to buy the cell phones without doing the updates themselves.
TRusselo said:
thanks captain obvious! Samsung would if they could, but the north american cell companies, in an attempt to keep us under their thumb, want the last say in what content, options and monitoring software our phones provide/hinder us with, and therefore refuse to buy the cell phones without doing the updates themselves.
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Then it is not our phones... It is their phones in our hands.
The cell carriers in Canada are just plain bad...
its not just canada, its the united states too... strike that. the u.s. (no offence) is worse. look at att requesting locked bootloaders on the S4 and other samsung devices now.... thats... just wrong.
the best thing you can do to stay updated is what you are doing here. run custom software. to stay the most "up-to-date" you will have to run ports of nexus roms, Ports of Touchwiz roms, or ASOP derivatives.
as im finding out, it looks like us canadian guys can flash any ATT rom, if we immediately flash a Tmobile kernel with the same android version number. Tmo device is almost the same and without locked bootloaders but lacks NFC but nfc has no dependencies on the kernel apparently.
the ridiculous part is having to wait on the modems to catch up with everyone else and not have to worry about stupid data drops using an i337m
Hi there. Recently purchased an LG V600am and have just learned it is not getting updates whilst not on the at&t network.
I'm in Australia so that's not possible.
Is it possible to flash the v600am to a regular v60?
I'm guessing no and the v600am is pretty much a dud for anyone not with at&t.
No, maybe in future
If it's running fast and stable, let it be.
AT&T updates tend to break phones
My AT&T 10+ is still running well on Pie and hasn't been updated in 1.5 years. Last reload was over a year ago, still fast and very stable.
Security simply isn't an issue unless you do something stupid... lol, I've tested it extensively.