Welcome fellow Canadians!
Seeing as the Galaxy Note 3 is going to be released in Canada very shortly (October 4th), I figured we should get some discussion going on where you're buying, and any speculations to price points.
I just got off of a chat with Telus, regarding an email I had received, offering $50 off a device when you sign a contract, OR, stay month-to-month. So you can save a bit of money for those who are purchasing the phone outright, or even signing up for a new contract. You need to call a special sales line: 1-877-279-3900
Also, while she couldn't officially confirm, the rep did tell me that she would strongly suggest I go to a corporate store on Friday.. Obviously this is just in case there are shipping delays (doubtful) but I think that it's quite safe to say that it's coming out on Friday!
Currently, Wind Mobile is the only carrier to officially announce their pricing, but I think that it would be safe to say that the other carriers will be in line (roughly) with Wind.
- WIND 40: $449
- WIND 30: $549
- WIND 33: $549
- WIND 20: $649
- Outright: $749
I was also able to "confirm" with the rep, that the price point for Telus would probably fall around $799, so that isn't too far off of Wind's pricing.
Discuss anything related to the Canadian launch of the Note 3! :laugh:
All I really want to know is if the bootloader will be locked like the US variants or did we escape it again like with the S4?
I will be getting mine outright from rogers.
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force70 said:
All I really want to know is if the bootloader will be locked like the US variants or did we escape it again like with the S4?
I will be getting mine outright from rogers.
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I wonder how we'll be able to tell. I'm still on an S2 until Friday, but I don't think we ever had problems with the bootloader.
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I thought I heard it was locked but I have faith in xda that it won't last
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I thought I heard it was locked but I have faith in xda that it won't last
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Just like the s4 att and verizon will be locked down for sure but the canadian s4 has never been locked...hoping for the same with the n3
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I have the octa unlocked version and am using it on bell, just got it today and am loving it
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I just checked out Mobilesyrup's review of the Galaxy S2X and it had an unlocked bootloader. If the S4 had an unlocked one as well, I'd be very hopeful that the Note 3 is unlocked as well, only time will tell! 4 more days..
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I have the octa unlocked version and am using it on bell, just got it today and am loving it
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LTE working on it?
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No LTE on the octa version
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No LTE on the octa version
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Bummer....H+ is so slow..I def couldnt live without LTE.
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Bummer....H+ is so slow..I def couldnt live without LTE.
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Good thing we only have 4 days left to wait!
On another note, how would one find out if the bootloader is unlocked or locked?
EDIT: Telus seems to have added the Note 3 as "Coming Soon" http://beta.telus.com/wireless/devices/samsung-galaxy-note-3/
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Which International Model Works Best In Canada N900 or N9005?
Hi Guys
As the title states, which model works best in Canada specifically on Bell, the N900 or N9005 model? Also will I get full LTE with the N9005 model? I've tried researching them and keep finding different answers. Sorry if this topic has been covered prior. Just sold my Xperia Z Ultra C6833 to jump over to the N3. Or should I wait for the Canadian release on Bell which I believe is this Friday Oct.4th?
Thanks Again
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Hi Guys
As the title states, which model works best in Canada specifically on Bell, the N900 or N9005 model? Also will I get full LTE with the N9005 model? I've tried researching them and keep finding different answers. Sorry if this topic has been covered prior. Just sold my Xperia Z Ultra C6833 to jump over to the N3. Or should I wait for the Canadian release on Bell which I believe is this Friday Oct.4th?
Thanks Again
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Im having the same problem myself. Wondering which models will work on Rogers with LTE? Its difficult to understand the band and frequency numbers. I have never had to research a phone like this before I bought it. Some of the numbers match and some dont, does that mean it'll work? Or does it have to have every number matching?
But ya, my question is the same, will an unlocked N9005 LTE work on Rogers?
You can't quote me on this, but if you're looking for LTE, then the only version hat works would be the Qualcomm N9005. I believe the N9000 is the octa core 3G international version.
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Where did you get the Windmobile pricing from? their website still has no info of it.
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Where did you get the Windmobile pricing from? their website still has no info of it.
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Hey AllGamer, nice to see you back from the Galaxy S2 days
I found the Wind Mobile pricing from Mobilesyrup: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/28/w...laxy-note-3-on-october-4th-heres-the-pricing/
Bell also announced their pricing today as well, off contract: $799.95 (http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/01/bell-samsung-galaxy-note-3-to-cost-799-95-outright/). Which is right around the pricing that the CSR told me yesterday.
Does anyone know for sure, 100%, if the T-Mobile version of the Note 3 will work on Wind? Normally this is the case, but I ask because the T-Mobile version is the snapdragon model whereas Wind is going to be carrying the Exynos model.
I really want the dev support, and from what i gather, dev support is going to be none-existent for the Exynos version? Or is this maybe not going to be as accurate as it is/was for the S4? Or am i wrong about the S4 here too? I just remember reading and hearing that samsung doesn't release source code for the kernel etc for the Exynos chips - which i don't understand fully because I did read a few posts about how samsung had released the source for the Note 3 (or maybe it was the Note 10.1 2014) with the Exynos chip...
can anyone shed light on these issues for me?
Specifically, four questions:
1. T-Mobile Snapdragon phone on Wind Mobile? (Or any other snapdragon phones on Wind?)
2. How does the dev support look like it will be for the Exynos version that Wind Mobile is going to be selling?
3. Does the source code that samsung released for the Exynos model of either the note 3 or note 10.1 2014 mean that they are releasing more source code than they used to for their Exynos chips? Or was this stuff all released for other chips too?
4. Do you guys know if there will be a way to purchase the Note 3 outright from wind if you are not going to be on a new contract? I'm on wind already and i want to keep my existing plan because it's a better deal than any plan they have had since they offered this one, but i obviously want to buy this phone friday... i know with the S3 i had to activate a new plan, but of course then i just threw out the new sim card - worry here is that one wind guy told me that for the first month they may not even allow outright purchases only purchases on the wind tab, in which case i couldn't just throw out the sim card and use my old one could i?
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Does anyone know for sure, 100%, if the T-Mobile version of the Note 3 will work on Wind? Normally this is the case, but I ask because the T-Mobile version is the snapdragon model whereas Wind is going to be carrying the Exynos model.
I really want the dev support, and from what i gather, dev support is going to be none-existent for the Exynos version? Or is this maybe not going to be as accurate as it is/was for the S4? Or am i wrong about the S4 here too? I just remember reading and hearing that samsung doesn't release source code for the kernel etc for the Exynos chips - which i don't understand fully because I did read a few posts about how samsung had released the source for the Note 3 (or maybe it was the Note 10.1 2014) with the Exynos chip...
can anyone shed light on these issues for me?
Specifically, four questions:
1. T-Mobile Snapdragon phone on Wind Mobile? (Or any other snapdragon phones on Wind?)
2. How does the dev support look like it will be for the Exynos version that Wind Mobile is going to be selling?
3. Does the source code that samsung released for the Exynos model of either the note 3 or note 10.1 2014 mean that they are releasing more source code than they used to for their Exynos chips? Or was this stuff all released for other chips too?
4. Do you guys know if there will be a way to purchase the Note 3 outright from wind if you are not going to be on a new contract? I'm on wind already and i want to keep my existing plan because it's a better deal than any plan they have had since they offered this one, but i obviously want to buy this phone friday... i know with the S3 i had to activate a new plan, but of course then i just threw out the new sim card - worry here is that one wind guy told me that for the first month they may not even allow outright purchases only purchases on the wind tab, in which case i couldn't just throw out the sim card and use my old one could i?
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It seems to be $749 off contract, no idea about them selling them only after one month though.
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Mobilesyrup just announced the Rogers pricing as well: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/01/rogers-pricing-for-the-note-3-lumia-1020-and-galaxy-s4-mini/
$750 outright, $249 on 2yr contract.
I imported my N900 as soon as I could
I'm on Bell, everything is perfect. I have LTE coverage in my area but I can live without, no lte mean better battery and that what I need.
I did the same thing in the past for my Galaxy S4, I imported the Octa core too.
Been playing with it for almost a week now, awesome device!
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Hello all!! Im on sprint so I didnt get the nexus 4 and i wanted so bad.. Is there any word on if the new Nexus 5 will come to sprint this time around?? Man i sure hope so..
I am not completely sure, but sprint basically has the same freq. as Wind (in Canada) so I'd expect it to work.
These are supposed to be Sprint's Freq.:
LTE Advanced Worldmode: Sprint LTE, 800/1900 CDMA, 850/900/1800/1900/2100 GSM/UMTS
Advanced Worldmode: 800/1900 CDMA, 850/900/1800/1900/2100 GSM/UMTS
Worldmode: 800/1900 CDMA and 900/1800 GSM
Leaks so far suggest there will be at least two different Nexus 5 models. The model leaked last week (called LG-D820) had wireless radios that could support AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile LTE.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4723138/lg-nexus-5-photo-details-revealed-in-fcc-filing
I think it will come to sprint per Anand tech... At least they say it's compatible with cdma...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7283/potential-nexus-5-fcc-disclosure-reappears-lgd820
What I want to know if it's triband lte compatible with Sprint. It looks like it is... From the Anandtech document because it supports bands 25, 26 and 41 which are the lte bands that Sprint use.... But not 100% sure.
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I think it will come to sprint per Anand tech... At least they say it's compatible with cdma...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7283/potential-nexus-5-fcc-disclosure-reappears-lgd820
What I want to know if it's triband lte compatible with Sprint. It looks like it is... From the Anandtech document because it supports bands 25, 26 and 41 which are the lte bands that Sprint use.... But not 100% sure.
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Dan Hesse should know the answer to this. Everyone else is just guessing based on the radio. Doesn't mean Sprint is picking it up.
Sprint does look like it is trying to be the good guys again and trying to play into what people want. I would be surprised to not see Sprint pick it up. Verizon, that is another story. They could not care less about making people happy.
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I think it will come to sprint per Anand tech... At least they say it's compatible with cdma...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7283/potential-nexus-5-fcc-disclosure-reappears-lgd820
What I want to know if it's triband lte compatible with Sprint. It looks like it is... From the Anandtech document because it supports bands 25, 26 and 41 which are the lte bands that Sprint use.... But not 100% sure.
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This is my question as well. It would determine whether or not the G2 is my target for my next phone, or if the Nexus 5 will be in my sights.
Man I hope sprint let's us activate it. That's the only thing I'm worried about .
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Dan Hesse should know the answer to this. Everyone else is just guessing based on the radio. Doesn't mean Sprint is picking it up.
Sprint does look like it is trying to be the good guys again and trying to play into what people want. I would be surprised to not see Sprint pick it up. Verizon, that is another story. They could not care less about making people happy.
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Just because it doesn't support the LTE 13 band, could it still come up and grab a signal (just no LTE?).
Also what I find interesting is the discussion of the radio that is a "Adjustable Tuner", so couldn't it just "tune in" to the frequencies we need for Verizon?
And if there are 2 models, one for AT&T, TMOBILE, and SPRINT... whats the second one for?
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Just because it doesn't support the LTE 13 band, could it still come up and grab a signal (just no LTE?).
Also what I find interesting is the discussion of the radio that is a "Adjustable Tuner", so couldn't it just "tune in" to the frequencies we need for Verizon?
And if there are 2 models, one for AT&T, TMOBILE, and SPRINT... whats the second one for?
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International gsm
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Well I hope it will be n Sprint as in many sites it is clearly mentioned that it will come up with the support of LTE that was not in Nexus 4..then there must be a probability that it will come in Sprint too....
Even if it's for sprint I highly suggest you don't get it. If you need a reason just go through the Galaxy Nexus Toroplus forums. We're still trying to get a stable 4.3 build.
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Here's a theory on why the Sprint bands are there even if Sprint does not end up selling it. Sprint is now owned by Softbank. Having the Sprint bands would allow those N5s sold in Japan by Softbank to work in the US on Sprint's network. Softbank does not have CDMA service in Japan they have 3G(WCDMA/HSPA) and LTE only.
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Man I hope sprint let's us activate it. That's the only thing I'm worried about .
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If this happens I'll be paying my ETF on the spot in store to clear my ESN on my old phone and tell them where to stick it
Jimlarck said:
Even if it's for sprint I highly suggest you don't get it. If you need a reason just go through the Galaxy Nexus Toroplus forums. We're still trying to get a stable 4.3 build.
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I have a Verizon GNex Toro and I'm running 4.3 AOKP official nightlies and its flawless. Not sure why ToroPlus would be any different.
I doubt N5 is going to be on Verizon but I'm too leery of the G2. Damn Verizon.
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player911 said:
I have a Verizon GNex Toro and I'm running 4.3 AOKP official nightlies and its flawless. Not sure why ToroPlus would be any different.
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You guys are lucky because Verizon released the 4.3 binaries for Toro, meanwhile Sprint declares Toroplus EOL.
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Maybe sprint will let's us buy it from the playstore
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Maybe sprint will let's us buy it from the playstore
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Wish it was as easy as that, but the Play store edition is GSM and Sprint is a CDMA carrier
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Wish it was as easy as that, but the Play store edition is GSM and Sprint is a CDMA carrier
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I thought the phone already supported sprint bands
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I thought the phone already supported sprint bands
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This^ I thought there was only a single model for NA, and it included all bands AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.
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This^ I thought there was only a single model for NA, and it included all bands AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.
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This. I just assumed that if there was only one model then we could get the updates like gsm and MAYBE flash radio separately. Well a boy can dream, can't he?
Hi guys
I'm planning to buy SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3 from US probably (I'm from Europe) and I don't know the difference between NOTE 3 N9005 and
SM-N9005 and which one is better or the are the same? I think that SM-N9005 is from VERIZON network in USA.What is the difference and will it work in Europe?
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juno106
I ask myself the same question.
I do not claim to give a complete answer, but as far as my research (15 mintes) tells me, these are Samsung-intern designations that give information on the exact hardware specifications.
In case of the note 3, they mainly differ in supported data transfer standards, such as g2, g3, lte (these are German terms, no idea if they're globally applicable, the general idea should be clear nonetheless).
The weaker octacore chip can (or will or should) only be used with devices that support only standards g3 or lower.
hope this helps and hope i'm not completely wrong here.
btw, sm-n9005 has the stronger quadcore chip so you'd be safe buying that one.
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Thank you for your reply.I searched internet as well,and I agree with you,but I just found out that VERIZON's NOTE 3 model has other numbers. It is : SM-N900V – U.S. Verizon Galaxy Note 3 !!! What does SM-900V now means?
Maybe they misinformed me that it is SM-N9005.
check out the us Samsung shopping site. googling note 3 sprint should get you there as well.
There you can compare full specs for all carriers
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Thank you for your reply.I searched internet as well,and I agree with you,but I just found out that VERIZON's NOTE 3 model has other numbers. It is : SM-N900V – U.S. Verizon Galaxy Note 3 !!! What does SM-900V now means?
Maybe they misinformed me that it is SM-N9005.
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Hi,
- N9005 and SM-N9005 are referred to the same thing.
- SM-900V is Verizon Note 3, as you already known.
- For more available models, you can look into my app's description: Phone INFO ★Samsung★
Here you can find many other available models:
SM-N900, SM-N9002, SM-N9005, SM-N9006, SM-N9007, SM-N9008, SM-N9009, SM-N900A, SM-N900D (SC-01F), SM-N900J (SCL22), SM-N900K, SM-N900L, SM-N900P, SM-N9000Q, SM-N900R4, SM-N900S, SM-N900T, SM-N900V, SM-N900W8, SM-N900X
@vndnguyen hi brother mine is sm-n9005 can you tell me is my phone locked to some carrier or country.
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You'd buy the sm-n9005 which is the European lte version.
I live in France and I have this one.
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Hi guys
I'm planning to buy SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3 from US probably (I'm from Europe) and I don't know the difference between NOTE 3 N9005 and
SM-N9005 and which one is better or the are the same? I think that SM-N9005 is from VERIZON network in USA.What is the difference and will it work in Europe?
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juno106
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Really, you could not read the thread that is already stickied at the top?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574886
SM stands for Samsung Mobile. That's all. N9005 is the short name, SM-N9005 is the full product name.
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Yes I read that SM-N900V is VERIZON's model od Note 3,but also read somewhere that they have LOCKED BOOTLOADER.And after reading Verizon's NOTE 3 forum I found out that VERIZON still don't have KIT KAT update for their NOTE 3 (which is not the case with other mobile cariers in USA).So this makes VERIZON not that good idea.
Does anyone have any experience with it,and what problems will I have if the bootloader is locked for N-900V Note 3?
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Does anyone have any experience with it,and what problems will I have if the bootloader is locked for N-900V Note 3?
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That just means that development for a variant with locked bootloader is going to be slower than unlocked variants. I'm not American but if I can give any advice it's this: don't go for carrier-locked variants ever if you can avoid it. Carrier contracts are more expensive in the long run than a one-off payment and their lust for control causes slower updates (if any) and more difficult development. Don't support those companies, just don't.
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Yes I read that SM-N900V is VERIZON's model od Note 3,but also read somewhere that they have LOCKED BOOTLOADER.And after reading Verizon's NOTE 3 forum I found out that VERIZON still don't have KIT KAT update for their NOTE 3 (which is not the case with other mobile cariers in USA).So this makes VERIZON not that good idea.
Does anyone have any experience with it,and what problems will I have if the bootloader is locked for N-900V Note 3?
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Being in Europe you should definitely go with the SM-N9005 . It's the most popular LTE radio model, and the most xda developed. Not really sure why you'd want to go with the Verizon Model.
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I'm considering NOTE 3 from USA,because I have someone over there ,who can get it for me cheaper then in Europe.That is why.But after reading all of the stuff (not that good) about VERIZON's version,I better not do it.But we will see,it depends on the price.
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Yes I read that SM-N900V is VERIZON's model od Note 3,but also read somewhere that they have LOCKED BOOTLOADER.And after reading Verizon's NOTE 3 forum I found out that VERIZON still don't have KIT KAT update for their NOTE 3 (which is not the case with other mobile cariers in USA).So this makes VERIZON not that good idea.
Does anyone have any experience with it,and what problems will I have if the bootloader is locked for N-900V Note 3?
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Just buy the International version which is SM-N9005. If it is from a carrier especially in US, the bootloader is locked. It might not work for your country since you are in France but you can unlock it. If you are concern for the update, you can update manually by using Odin. It is easier to wait for the stock firmware download to be finished that wait for the OTA to come
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Just buy the International version which is SM-N9005. If it is from a carrier especially in US, the bootloader is locked. It might not work for your country since you are in France but you can unlock it. If you are concern for the update, you can update manually by using Odin. It is easier to wait for the stock firmware download to be finished that wait for the OTA to come
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sm-900t from tmobile usa is not bootloader locked.
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Right now, I'm going back and forth between the galaxy note 4 and the Z3. The Z3 looks quite nice, and I've owned each galaxy note phone to date. So i'd like to try something new. I'm on AT&T. Will the international version be able to get LTE without issues?
I checked amazon and someone said they couldnt get it to work.
I'm right there with you, I've had every note and galaxy phone to date. I'm also on at&t and the international d6603 model has all the correct LTE bands to work on our network. I pre ordered mine from handtec and can't wait to get this phone.
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International Z3 will work on ATT and TMO.
Fantastic! Time to switch it up then!
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Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
I ordered from SamsungUK.. lets see if they honor the order.
i am checking into this place.
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
I'll wait for the Duos version a month later from start shipping, I'm using exynos galaxy/notes from the note 2 .
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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I'm not sure. i've never bought intl phone.
I have written to the samsung UK web page and they told me the sim free phone is "locked" to unnlocked you muts make a 5 minut call to a number but from the place the phone was intended to sell, the UK
When you do the checkout on Clove store, you can choose this option: "Samsung’s region lock stops use of this handset within your chosen country unless activated with a European SIM. I agree for Clove Technology to break the seal on the box, activate the phone and remove the region lock by completing a 5 minute call on the handset."
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Doubt it. Every year on release there is this region lock, but when I get my phones, they're never region locked.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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Oh this sounds more like it. I've never had to deal with region lock..
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osmosizzz said:
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
luch4galaxy said:
Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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No I never got Samsung pay to work on the international model. But recently I think they got it to work on the s7 edge somehow.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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PuffinNugz said:
I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
PuffinNugz said:
When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
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I just did it on my Computer and you're right..its cheaper than anywhere else. I may just pick it up now
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
The phone says it supports: LTE Bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(AWS), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
And ATT Uses 2, 4, 5, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
So would the internation phone support ATT LTE?
Flame Red said:
Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
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LTE works.
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LTE works.
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Thanks for the education! I usually buy TMOB as in the past they have unlocked bootloaders and LTE works on ATT. But if I read the tea leaves correctly, TMOB might be changing that for the S8. I guess no one knows for sure yet for the S8, but generally speaking, have the boot loaders on past Sammy international models usually unlocked?
Just purchased the black note 10+ unlocked and also took the galaxy watch while I was at it. I added the Verizon sim to save me a trip to the store.
My two questions are:
Since I selected trade in on my Verizon note 8, will they take it if it's not unlocked?
Will this unlocked note 10+ allow me to flash custom ROMs and root if they are found?
1. I think they'll take the trade-in as long as the phone is paid off and in good condition
2. Only Note 10s with Exynos will have guaranteed access to root and custom ROMs. If i'm not mistaken, starting with the S9 series of snapdragon phones, root became pretty much impossible. IF root happens, it's going to be a very VERY long time (IF ever, that is).
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1. I think they'll take the trade-in as long as the phone is paid off and in good condition
2. Only Note 10s with Exynos will have guaranteed access to root and custom ROMs. If i'm not mistaken, starting with the S9 series of snapdragon phones, root became pretty much impossible. IF root happens, it's going to be a very VERY long time (IF ever, that is).
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When is the note 10s out?
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liquidraven said:
When is the note 10s out?
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My bad, I meant "Note 10's", as in plural, since there's the 10 and the 10+. So I was referring to those phones.
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My bad, I meant "Note 10's", as in plural, since there's the 10 and the 10+. So I was referring to those phones.
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Oh ok but the unlocked phones are the exynos?
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liquidraven said:
Oh ok but the unlocked phones are the exynos?
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The US unlocked phones are Snapdragon. Overseas, they'll be running Exynos.
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The US unlocked phones are Snapdragon. Overseas, they'll be running Exynos.
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
Ended up canceling my pre order through Sammy. I really want to have a exynos again for custom potential.
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With trade ins, it shouldn't matter what carrier or if it's carrier unlocked as long as it's in good condition.
As for potential for root and unlocked bootloaders, the chances are slim to none with any US Snapdragon model. Add to that, having Verizon makes it more difficult as the Exynos models are not compatible. If you want a phone with unlockable bootloader for use on Verizon, your options are the Pixels direct from Google, OnePlus 7 Pro, or buying a Latin American Note 9 or Note 10 that allows bootloader unlocking.
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With trade ins, it shouldn't matter what carrier or if it's carrier unlocked as long as it's in good condition.
As for potential for root and unlocked bootloaders, the chances are slim to none with any US Snapdragon model. Add to that, having Verizon makes it more difficult as the Exynos models are not compatible. If you want a phone with unlockable bootloader for use on Verizon, your options are the Pixels direct from Google, OnePlus 7 Pro, or buying a Latin American Note 9 or Note 10 that allows bootloader unlocking.
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Any major diff with the Latin note 10 otherwise?
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Verizon just told me on the phone that the international note 10 unlocked would work but I should have said exynos.
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international
liquidraven said:
Verizon just told me on the phone that the international note 10 unlocked would work but I should have said exynos.
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international is gsm only, will work on at+t, best on t mobile, i also want root and will go international. once i see how development is going
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
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Ahhh, as far as I know for pre-ordering, you'd have to do that through either an overseas carrier or one of Samsung's overseas websites (like UK or something). Even then, don't know if any of em will ship to the US. They likely won't.
If you wait til release day or after, Amazon should sell them then. You can finally find the exynos variants on Amazon under "international version" if I'm not mistaken.
Trnzbldr said:
international is gsm only, will work on at+t, best on t mobile, i also want root and will go international. once i see how development is going
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Does T mobile use LTE band 71? I'm not sure if the international ones have band 71. I Could be wrong.
Micky 22 said:
Does T mobile use LTE band 71? I'm not sure if the international ones have band 71. I Could be wrong.
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Yes. Tmobile uses: 2, 4, 5, 12, 46, 66, 71, and LTE U. I guess they'll acquire Sprint frequencies eventually.
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
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Youo can either buy it on EBAY - several good sellers offer it there - or you can go the CLOVE UK web site and get it from them. I have purchased all of my last four phnoes from CLOVE - they have decent prices and great customer service. Fast shipping too considering they are in the UK.If you buy the phone from them and pay 20 bucks for 3 day shipping - they will ship the phone on the 23rd and you should hve it by Monday or Tuesday.
Which ever you choose, good luck!
The Exynos does not support all the LTE bands used in the United States, including band 13 which is a requirement for Verizon.
As for the Latin American Note 10+, it's too soon to know if there will be any differences. The Latin American Note 9 (N9600) took a few months after release for people to figure out how to get everything working on Verizon. Out of the box it didn't work with VOLTE, but after a complex series of firmware flashes and tweaks, it can work. For many, the uncertainty of buying an international phone with no warranty and not knowing what challenges they will face is limiting. Check out the Note 9 forum on how to convert an N9600 to Verizon and see if it looks feasible. The Latin American variants will likely be the N9700 (Note 10) and N9750 (Note 10+) if Samsung sticks to their model number structure.