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[Q] What's your data plan and speed with '4g'?

I have:
Grandfathered unlimited data with 300 texts for 24.99usd/mo.
At 4g I get around 2.55mpbs up and .71mpbs down (all approximate of course).
When I was live chatting with tmo, the rep to activate my new SIM card as well as confirming my IMEI number, the rep said I needed an android plan. I responded that I had a nexus one and was running 3mpbs easy with the same data plan. And they responded with the blanket statement of you won't be getting the full data 4g speeds without it. Which I think is BS ....
So what plan are you guys on and what are your speeds using speedtest?

kpjimmy said:
I have:
Grandfathered unlimited data with 300 texts for 24.99usd/mo.
At 4g I get around 2.55mpbs up and .71mpbs down (all approximate of course).
When I was live chatting with tmo, the rep to activate my new SIM card as well as confirming my IMEI number, the rep said I needed an android plan. I responded that I had a nexus one and was running 3mpbs easy with the same data plan. And they responded with the blanket statement of you won't be getting the full data 4g speeds without it. Which I think is BS ....
So what plan are you guys on and what are your speeds using speedtest?
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If you were getting 3Mbps on your Nexus One (3G), and only .71 on the Sensation (4G), what makes you think that it's BS that you won't get 4G speeds without paying for a new data plan? The facts you've stated prove that this may be the case.
With 4G, you should be getting at least 10Mbps down I'm presuming, as even with my Samsung Vibrant I'm getting consistently 6Mbps down on a 3G connection.

I just purchased the Sensation at Wal-Mart here in Virginia and its amazing. T-Mobile doesn't have a store where I live and the only place you can buy one of there phones is at Wal-Mart or Radio Shack but T-Mobile is the only one of the big 4 that has 4G in my area and MAN IS IT 4G! As soon as I left the store I did a speedtest with the app and hit 6.8 mbps and 7.5 mbps! It flies! The reason though that T-Mobile isn't popular here is the coverage is spotty at best but I have a sprint phone also and i ported my number to google a while back so when I know I'm in a bad coverage area for T-Mobile I will just use my Sprint phone. Getting ready to test the camera out and see how good that is. I'm on the unlimited data plan btw...

I'm trying to get my facts straight really. From what I have read so far in the various threads is that some with the older plans (not android) have the same speeds. So I am curious in what people are getting with the 4g speeds and what data plan they are using to get their speeds. I mean if I 'need' to buy into another plan to get the speeds and that is a said fact, I will get the 'android' plan.

I don't have an Android plan. I just renewed my contract last month and got the unlimited web, 5gb, for $20 and was running an iPhone 3g (edge only). Last week I purchased the Sensation at Walmart and no changes were made to my account/plan. I live in the Phoenix market and my speeds vary depending on location. I have seen them as high as 9 mbps and as low as 1 mbps. I would say I average around 3 mbps

Also, check out this thread over in the development section regarding increasing your speeds -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017

There is no difference. Speed varies are from many other variables, but data plans are data plans. The only differences between android data plans are the amount of mb you get.
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I have done the Data Latency mod and it really didn't improve anything. So the old data plans people are using are still able to get the 4g speeds?

i pay £15.00 a month ($24.26) with my carrier/network: O2
I get
300 minutes to any carrier/network any time
unlimited calls to other o2 customers anytime
unlimited texts to any carrier/network anytime
unlimited internet anytime
30 day notice contract, no cancellation charges, no lengthy ties, cancel when i want it to cancel.

Using the automatic server selection on speedtest.net app, I get around 3mbps downloads and .17mbps up. But knowing I am in San Antonio I chose that server, even though it says its further away. Selecting that server I get 6.72mbps download and .29mbps up.
Are there any other speed test apps out there? Im going to check now.

ikhzter said:
i pay £15.00 a month ($24.26) with my carrier/network: O2
I get
300 minutes to any carrier/network any time
unlimited calls to other o2 customers anytime
unlimited texts to any carrier/network anytime
unlimited internet anytime
30 day notice contract, no cancellation charges, no lengthy ties, cancel when i want it to cancel.
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The UK (and most of Europe) have far better plans then here in the US. They also do a much better job IMO of protecting the consumer.

jlevy73 said:
The UK (and most of Europe) have far better plans then here in the US. They also do a much better job IMO of protecting the consumer.
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True, here they normally like to put the customer first. just say your leaving, they dont want you to leave lol

I am getting 7mb to 8mb down and 1.5mb to 2mb down...
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Ok, so while driving home I saw that my 4g bars were maxed and did a speedtest at a stoplight and I the got up to 8mbps up....so I guess my unlimited data plan does work still.
Please all, when you post your speeds, please also post what type of data plan you are using (ie unlimited plan, 5gb plan, or 200mb android plan). Thanks.

Data Plan = MyTouch3g $25
SIM card = old SIM with no numbers on it (considered their 2g SIM)
Soft Cap = None I've ever hit
4g speeds = 6-7 Mbs average, 9-10 Mbs max seen
Speeds remain the same for me even after I get my text warning and account message about the 5 Gb cap. At 8 Gb right now this month. This is an older plan though.

Use the FCC speedtest app made by ookla. The speedtest.net app they have tends not to be accurate. It sometimes shows that you have 7 or 8 mbps down but when you check the history for your speed test its actually lower. Their other app the FCC speed test is more accurate imo
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mcp2009 said:
Use the FCC speedtest app made by ookla. The speedtest.net app they have tends not to be accurate. It sometimes shows that you have 7 or 8 mbps down but when you check the history for your speed test its actually lower. Their other app the FCC speed test is more accurate imo
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Speedtest is accurate, but ONLY from the history screen. Don't believe the display speed.

Thanks trying it out now.
Seems like the FCC app works a bit better in terms of connecting. However, I am in San Antonio, TX and the closest server is in California. I have changed the server to Dallas and ran the test.
I am now getting about 3-5 mpbs uploads with 4 bars at 4g. And yes you do not need to go to the history screen to get the true reading anymore

digiholic said:
Speedtest is accurate, but ONLY from the history screen. Don't believe the display speed.
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Exactly lol.
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I am in Orlando , which tmo says is one of there stronger 4g markets...
I consistently get speeds less than 1.5 dl and .50 ul. My nexus S and Nexus run a consistent 3 dl and .90 ul.. I cant figure out why this phone has slower speeds.. Sim card is up to date. I have had the same android data for some time now.. Even my lady gets a 3 or better dl on her g2x and we are in the same house. Before you say switch the phone and sim, I have already done both and it is the same.

Internet simple mobile unlimited $40 plan on g2x is slower than edge..

I just switch to simple mobile today and got the $40 unlimited plan. Thought it was a great deal to save some $$$ every month. The Plan clearly mentions that users can get up to 3G speed depending on location and device. My location does have 3G network and the G2X supports the 3G bands as well. But still the speed gets capped at around 119KB/s when using the 3G/4G network. The speed here is actually slower than the 2G. I changed the settings and forced 2G and ran the speedtest again. Using edge i managed to get around 150Kb/s surprisingly.
This is not at all the plan as advertised. i think i will never get that up to 3G speed. Switching to straight talk does not help too as the G2X doesnt have the ATT 3G bands. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Same problem
I'm running EaglesBlood GB on my phone. When I use simple mobile i get 120kbps upstream and about the same downstream. I know its not the area since i drive a lot and tried it in three different cities. Now my wife has a 30 plan with tmobile. The one 1500min or text and 30 mb data. When i put her sim in my phone i get 3700 kbps downstream and 1250 upstream. I spent a while with SM chat people and so I know its not in APN settings. There has to be something else to be changed on the phone to get 3g. Would be nice if someone new what it is.

Simple actually caps your connection speed at 120kbps which is quoted as upto 3G speed.. Simple is mono of Tom and offer lot cheaper service.. They offer ****ty internet for $40 plan but if you go with $60 plan it's faster.

[Q] Throttling?

I just switched to Tmobile prepaid from sprints truly unlimited service.. I have the 100mb of 4g spewed where they mention nothing about taking away your 3g unless you fully read the tiny print with a magnifying glass. Id there a way too disable the throttling? Or a ROM that snoods it? Please pm if you feel that's more necessary. Thank you.

Not possible to get around the limits , data metering is done all on T-Mobile's end.
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from past experiences when your throttled they don't just take it down to 3g, they take down to 2g or Edge.. maybe even slower.
I was recently with Simple Mobile (T-mobile re-seller) and they advertise unlimited but once I hit 2gigs I was throttled to less than 100kbps. I've recently switched to T-mobiles 5-gig of 4g data unlimited texts and 100 mins for $30.00/month.. Hopefully they don't throttle before that.

Jmodix said:
from past experiences when your throttled they don't just take it down to 3g, they take down to 2g or Edge.. maybe even slower.
I was recently with Simple Mobile (T-mobile re-seller) and they advertise unlimited but once I hit 2gigs I was throttled to less than 100kbps. I've recently switched to T-mobiles 5-gig of 4g data unlimited texts and 100 mins for $30.00/month.. Hopefully they don't throttle before that.
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Where is that phan???

LTE slowing down?

So now that a substantial amount of people are on Verizon's LTE network, are people's data speeds slowing down? In August, when I got my Charge, I was getting between 15mbps to 20mbps (speedtest.net) on LTE in the Madison, WI and Milwaukee, WI areas. I just ran a few tests today and got speeds between 5mbps and 7mbps. I know this barely affects day-to-day usage (unless you download large files and torrent like I do), but I am curious as to everybody else's speeds.

Mine have slowed down slightly, but not significantly. I do notice that I will get vastly different speed-test results based on what server I'm connecting too.

my 3g plummeted to the ground my 4g whitch is 15 miles north of me i am in utah btw is down roughly between 12-14 megs a few days i saw about 16-18 but not a huge difference for me but the 3g is killing me my sprint 3g was faster whitch i thought would not be the case...

What are you doing torrenting on LTE? Where's your home Internet connection?
I use my LTE connection but I barely use 3 GB a month. Most of the time I'm under 2 GBs.
Damn... no wonder why Verizon implemented data usage caps and gone away from Unlimited Data.

trparky said:
What are you doing torrenting on LTE? Where's your home Internet connection?
I use my LTE connection but I barely use 3 GB a month. Most of the time I'm under 2 GBs.
Damn... no wonder why Verizon implemented data usage caps and gone away from Unlimited Data.
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I live in a college dorm where if you are caught doing something illegal on the internet they take away all your computer access and ability to use the schools wifi across campus. I would rather not take that risk.
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I'm seeing slowdowns, but they aren't consistent. Never below 5Mbps, but normally, I'm still 12-15.

How about not doing anything illegal?
You know that the MPAA/RIAA are on their witch hunts. It's not if, but when, they will find you and believe you me, they will find you and you better have your lawyer ready.
NetFlix? Amazon.com Music Store? Android Market? All of which allows you to consume your media in a legal way without the constant threat of a DMCA notice.
Thanks a lot, you ruined it for the rest of us who liked Unlimited Data from Verizon. Now, because of people like you we have to endure capped data plans and the ever possible chance that they will take it away from even those who have the Unlimited Data plan. Thanks a lot, at least I now know the kind of people to blame for this crap.

Psst: There are legal uses for bittorrent.

Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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JihadSquad said:
I live in a college dorm where if you are caught doing something illegal on the internet they take away all your computer access and ability to use the schools wifi across campus. I would rather not take that risk.
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If you don't want to take the risk then don't do it at all.
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Yes, LTE has slowed down. But, it's still really fast, faster than all other carriers where I am.

terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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Please don't open this particular can of worms again.

terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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Verizon is nothing but a company. That company is free to do whatever it thinks will result in the most profit. Now what do you think will make more money, charging customers who are with Verizon because they already have the best service more, or spending money on new towers to attract a few customers in that area?
If Verizon customers want to tell them to stop jacking up the prices, they do it with their money (like what happened to netflix).
Also, i did not ask for advice; i was just curious as to others' experience. If you want to go cry about unlimited data, go to that "100+gb /month" thread or get unlimited data as per foreversupra's thread.
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My data has gotten substantially slower...I now average about 3mbps down and 2.5 up....far cry from the 25 down I got in the summer

terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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I'd like to fly to Japan for $99 but it's not going to happen.
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In Memphis I get download speeds anywhere from 15-40 Mbps, and upload speeds anywhere from 4-8 Mbps. My best speed test so far was on Monday with 40.09Mbps Down and 8.1Mbps Up.
I just got on the Verizon network about five days ago, and I'm astounded at the speeds I get on 4g LTE.

the only thing that matches my LTE speeds is my FiOS wifi but even when used side by side the LTE usually smokes wifi... I'm pleased with the speeds and the fact that its unlimited and I'm not trying to screw myself or others out of it so I keep my data usage pretty conservative
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I am still happily seeing around 40 down 20 up in San Jose, CA. It's so fast that I want to get faster SD card to match that.

Since we're discussing torrents, has anyone noticed their upload speed being significantly slower than what you can get in a speedtest? As in if you're uploading a torrent at 3 AM, you might get 100 kBytes/sec, but on speedtest.net you might get 8 megabits/sec.
Does anyone know what would cause that?

ambrar12 said:
Since we're discussing torrents, has anyone noticed their upload speed being significantly slower than what you can get in a speedtest? As in if you're uploading a torrent at 3 AM, you might get 100 kBytes/sec, but on speedtest.net you might get 8 megabits/sec.
Does anyone know what would cause that?
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What would you need to upload in the first place?
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New info on throttling by AT&T

Looks like 3gb cap for 3g and 5gb for LTE
http://www.att.com/esupport/datausage.jsp?source=IZDUel1160000000U
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I'm OK with this cap, I use 2-3gb every month and that's using 2 full batteries a day on my SR for Facebook, XDA, Reddit, and YouTube videos
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So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Now I never get close to 3GB but still would like to know.

nest75068 said:
So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
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Doesn't seem like it. It just says 4g lte smartphone, so if your not in a LTE area, but have a LTE phone you would have a 5gb cap
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Bummer. I couldn't deal with the throttle any longer so I switched to a tiered plan last month.
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I think for an LTE imei registered smartphone it's 5gb. I can live with this, pretty much like the other carriers. If you don't have an lte, you're more likely going to get one in the future anyways. Now, let's see that data sharing policy in place ;-)
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Finally, and I can live with 5gb. I just wonder now what the throttle speeds are. I wonder if att knew they where going to start getting sued LOL. Also I would like to think when we move to "5G" and such out data limits will increase. I think att knew they couldn't do this so they where super aggressive to make people drop their plans and only the diehards are left. Now that they reached a breaking point they are now being more fair. Yay for that Guy who sued them lol
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When they say they will throttle us LTE users at 5GB, does that mean they are going back to the 2G edge speeds for the rest of the billing cycle, making our phones once again unusable, or is it going to be more of a Verizon type of throttling where it's only if it's during a certain peak-usage time on a congested tower, and even then it's down to 3G speeds?
If it's the latter, I am pleased. 5GB of LTE and then HSPA+ for anything over is fine by me. I must point out that non of the APN bypass things work for me at all anymore, so if after 5GB I'm on HSPA+, well, HSPA+ is still plenty fast for me.
If it's the former, however, then I'll still be just as disappointed. Actually pissed and outraged. Going from 2GB to 5GB to start throttling really is not much of an improvement to me, since if I wanted to, at these insane LTE speeds they are giving me in San Francisco (maxed out around 50Mbs down), I could download 5GB in about 15 minutes on LTE speeds. So hypothetically once my billing cycle reset, if after 15 minutes of heavy LTE usage I was then throttled to EDGE speeds for the rest of the month, I'll be pissed.
So yeah, anyone know? Are they still going to throttle at EDGE speeds for the remainder of the month regardless of peak times/congested towers/etc? If so, then this new 5GB LTE cap is still complete and utter bull****, just like 2GB was. But if it's NOT EDGE speeds, and not necessarily all the time until the next billing cycle, then it's welcomed.

nest75068 said:
So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Now I never get close to 3GB but still would like to know.
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It is based on you data plan regardless of you are getting LTE is the way I read it. You might travel to an LTE area. If you have a LTE data plan it will be 5GB.

Straight from the web site.
Looks like you will remain throttled for the remainder of the billing cycle.
I understand the throttle speeds are supposed to be more usable and not the 56k modem speed crap they've been doing.
If you have a smartphone that works on our 3G or 4G network and still have an unlimited data plan,
You'll receive a text message when your usage approaches 3GB in one billing cycle.
Each time you use 3GB or more in a billing cycle, your data speeds will be reduced for the rest of that billing cycle and then go back to normal.
The next time you exceed that usage level, your speeds will be reduced without another text message reminder.
If you have a 4G LTE smartphone and still have an unlimited data plan, the same process applies at 5GB of data usage, instead of 3GB.
You'll still be able to use as much data as you want. That won't change. Only your data throughput speed will change if you use 3GB or more in one billing cycle on a 3G or 4G smartphone or 5GB or more on a 4G LTE smartphone.
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Emil9727 said:
Finally, and I can live with 5gb. I just wonder now what the throttle speeds are. I wonder if att knew they where going to start getting sued LOL. Also I would like to think when we move to "5G" and such out data limits will increase. I think att knew they couldn't do this so they where super aggressive to make people drop their plans and only the diehards are left. Now that they reached a breaking point they are now being more fair. Yay for that Guy who sued them lol
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Well the fact that that iPhone user sued over not getting true unlimited and won probably influenced them a bit, not to mention I'm sure they were tired of getting reports from their CSRs of angry customers calling in to ***** about using 2.1 GB and being throttled and threatening to cancel unless they got some perk in response.
I also can live with 5GB. The only time I used excessive data was when I had to stream my SiriusXM all day at work. Now that I figured out how to get a signal with my regular radio I can safely stay below or around 2GB. The fact that I get up to 5GB because I have an LTE phone (although no LTE coverage, boo) and I'm paying $30 instead of $50 AND I just get slow speeds as opposed to $10 charge for going over has me satisfied.

im happy with 5GB.. its not "unlimited" but i think its manageable
the 2GB was BS which is why in my protest i was hitting 80GB a month but my avg is 3.5-4gb so im happy
no more protesting for me =)

rjohnstone said:
Straight from the web site.
Looks like you will remain throttled for the remainder of the billing cycle.
I understand the throttle speeds are supposed to be more usable and not the 56k modem speed crap they've been doing.
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Well what is "more usable"? 3G speeds? Somewhere between EDGE and 3G?

I'm totally satisfied with this, as I never go over 5GB monthly, but I do go over 2GB.
We have won the battle.... but not the war my unlimited data friends. LOLOL
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