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Ok, so I have like 5 or so months left before I qualify for upgrade pricing at ATT. Money really isnt as much of an issue as other issues, such as network speed, and device features.
so my questions are:
1) My understanding is that ATT 3G is superior to Sprint's EVDO in terms of speed, assuming the same touch pro device is used. True?
2) I know the device speccs aren't really out yet, but in terms of rumors, I've heard that Verizon will criple their version. Is there any other providers out there doing the same thing?
I was going to get the Europe/Asia versions but since there isn't a way to run it off of the 3G networks here yet, and may never have a way, I was thinking of getting sprint next month, or just plain waiting out for ATT or T-Mobile.
What do you guys think? (sorry if this had been discussed before)
AT&T does not have faster speeds, it says it can do 600 to 1400 kbps down / 500 to 800 kbps upload.
I have never gotten more than 1mbps on AT&T download, i have gotten some pretty good upload though, seemed to average around the mid 700 range.
Sprint, now this depends. Sprint seems to have a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. They have EVDO and EVDO RevA. I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
That was my average test on speedtest.net
In EVDO areas where they do not have RevA I have gotten about 1.2mbps download and about 500 kbps upload average, which is worse than AT&T.
Another thing to consider is the data plan price.
Sprint has all you can data plan for $15 per month, vs AT&T's 40? 60? I can't remember but it was terrible!
Lots of people complain about sprint in general but I have been very pleased and I do quite a bit of buisness with them. I recommend them.
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AT&T does not have faster speeds, it says it can do 600 to 1400 kbps down / 500 to 800 kbps upload.
I have never gotten more than 1mbps on AT&T download, i have gotten some pretty good upload though, seemed to average around the mid 700 range.
Sprint, now this depends. Sprint seems to have a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. They have EVDO and EVDO RevA. I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
That was my average test on speedtest.net
In EVDO areas where they do not have RevA I have gotten about 1.2mbps download and about 500 kbps upload average, which is worse than AT&T.
Another thing to consider is the data plan price.
Sprint has all you can data plan for $15 per month, vs AT&T's 40? 60? I can't remember but it was terrible!
Lots of people complain about sprint in general but I have been very pleased and I do quite a bit of buisness with them. I recommend them.
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Thanks for your input. Yeah I'm really leaning towards sprint because of it's "Simply Everything" plan which is $99 for unlimited talk/data. All other networks seem to have unlimited talk for $99 but it doesn't seem to include data.
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AT&T does not have faster speeds, it says it can do 600 to 1400 kbps down / 500 to 800 kbps upload.
I have never gotten more than 1mbps on AT&T download, i have gotten some pretty good upload though, seemed to average around the mid 700 range.
Sprint, now this depends. Sprint seems to have a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. They have EVDO and EVDO RevA. I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
That was my average test on speedtest.net
In EVDO areas where they do not have RevA I have gotten about 1.2mbps download and about 500 kbps upload average, which is worse than AT&T.
Another thing to consider is the data plan price.
Sprint has all you can data plan for $15 per month, vs AT&T's 40? 60? I can't remember but it was terrible!
Lots of people complain about sprint in general but I have been very pleased and I do quite a bit of buisness with them. I recommend them.
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Where is this "all you can data plan" from Sprint? I am betting they do not offer it for plan changes or new subs anymore.
They sure do, its called 'sprint powervision' or just the 'Data Plan'
Its $15 a month. The only stipulation is that you cannot use your phone as a modem (PAM) without getting charged extra. Although there are plenty of ways around that.
pam not on the everything or the talk/message/data share plan but there should be a workaround on the internet sharing i think u might have to go on ##debug# to do it jus have ur msl ready lol
wait until att has the hsdpa by the end of the year of course only some markets but then its definetly fastest
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I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
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That must be the city of the holy grail, the highest RevA can go to is 3.1 down/1.8 up... So you pretty much have the advertised speeds maxed out, which I've never seen.
My thoughts...
I was an AT&T (previously Cingular, previously T-Mobile) customer for quite a while. I have used GSM almost exclusively for 8 years. I left for CDMA at Sprint entirely because of internet speed. AT&T's 3G coverage is pretty lousy -- at least in the South East where I live. I can get 3G pretty much only in major cities. EVDO is available throughout the entire state of NC (where I live) -- even in rural areas, believe it or not. EVDO Rev A is spottier, but EVDO is fast enough for me.
The throughput is sufficient to sync exchange, play internet radio, browse the web, and download files at the same time. I haven't done speed tests to see exactly what the throughput is, but it "feels" as good as my home DSL service.
Additionally, Sprint's fallback internet, the "1X" service is much faster than AT&T's fallback service, Edge (or worse, GPRS). With 1X, I can still listen to internet radio and browse the web effectively (but not at the same time). With Edge, you can't -- it will skip like crazy. Not to mention that loading web sites and downloading anything takes for-ev-er!
Cost is another consideration. Although it is not published on their website, my data plan is only $15/mo for unlimited data. It does not include Sprint Music, Sprint TV, Sprint Navigation, or other value-added services like the $30 plan. It's not on their website. You have to call and request the "Sprint PowerVision Basic" plan. The basic plan is mainly for more basic phones, but if you have no interest in the value-added features and just want internet, you can get it on fancier phones as well.
As far as I know, AT&T still only has one unlimited data plan and it's approximately $30/mo.
Until AT&T's 3G service has a wider footprint, I would go with Sprint for data-heavy phone use. Verizon uses the same network as Sprint, but their data plan is $40/mo (around here at least), so they were out of the question for me.
My Wife has AT&T 3G, I have Sprint EVDO Rev A. We often between Texas and Florida. My Sprint service wins hands down. Much better coverage and MUCH faster speed. Two weekends ago we watched an entire football game on my mogul from the back of a car between Ft Laud and Key West with not one glitch. I was streaming the live feed from a server in Texas using Orb. We often do the same between Dallas and Houston. Every time we've tried using her phone the AT&T service can't keep up.
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Ok, so I have like 5 or so months left before I qualify for upgrade pricing at ATT. Money really isnt as much of an issue as other issues, such as network speed, and device features.
so my questions are:
1) My understanding is that ATT 3G is superior to Sprint's EVDO in terms of speed, assuming the same touch pro device is used. True?
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That is completely FALSE .... the GSM 3g in the US SUCKS ... EVDO is far better ..
Verizon is the fastest ..
Sprint is 2nd. .
at and Tmobile are far slower... and not as widespread..
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My Wife has AT&T 3G, I have Sprint EVDO Rev A. We often between Texas and Florida. My Sprint service wins hands down. Much better coverage and MUCH faster speed. Two weekends ago we watched an entire football game on my mogul from the back of a car between Ft Laud and Key West with not one glitch. I was streaming the live feed from a server in Texas using Orb. We often do the same between Dallas and Houston. Every time we've tried using her phone the AT&T service can't keep up.
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I know people that stream Orb on AT&T, and I've used Slingboxes across the continent on AT&T... I think it's more likely that you have a better phone for playing video than what she has. I'm not doubting Sprint's EVDO is faster, but AT&T's network can surely "keep up" with a service like Orb.
For me, Sprint was faster than even Verizon
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For me, Sprint was faster than even Verizon
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Well, it all depends on location. As I've said many times before, I can't even make a phone call from my house with Sprint or Verizon, so if you could even get data to transfer it would be snail slow. Yet I get around 500kb/s from AT&T in the same area... Go figure.
Welp, here's the background info. I work with AT&T next to a corporate store. I have an rooted Inspire 4g. With my Inspire I'm actually on the media net plan and not the PDA data plan.
So anyway I was bugging a work friend a joking around with him about switching me over to unlimited data (smartphone plan) so I could get off of the medianet plan. I got curious and asked him about the whole 4g provisioning thing that was an argument in another thread. We pulled up a customers account and he showed me, you do in fact need it provisioned to access hspa+. But that's not thing fun part of the story. It's been debated numerous times.
I asked him if we even got HSPA+ where I live. It turns out that we do. I just never noticed it because of the data plan I'm provisioned for. So my curiosity got the best of me. We walked over to the display Inspire and verified it was connected to HSPA+. He had already installed speedtest.net on the phone to try it out. We ran it. And I was shocked. The phone was measuring 1.5 down. We already know the HSUPA shebackle. But really? Only 1.5 down?
In utter disbelief I pull out my phone. He knows what plan I'm on and knows it's rooted. I do have the stock radio on though, and non of the build.prop tweaks that have been mentioned. Standing right next to the Demo, on HSDPA, my phone pulls down 3.5 a second.
Now he's shocked. I'm running straight off HSDPA and the demo is connected at HSPA+. We double check that the phones are testing against the same servers on speedtest. We run multiple tests. And consistently my phone pulls a higher data rate then the demo on HSPA+. To make sure we're not going insane we double check everything again between the two phones.
It turns out an engineer was at the corp. store that day. He pulls out his iPhone 4 and shows us something more interesting. His phone, testing against the same speedtest server, always pulls down around 5.
He informs us that iPhones get preferred treatment over the network. This is nothing new or unsuspected. But HSPA+ connectivity is severely throttled. This is deliberately down by AT&T because the network isnt able to handle the workload yet. There also isn't any time frame when the throttling will be lifted.
This just blew my mind. I expected it to be backed down some with it being a new network that's not completely developed, but this much is astounding to me.
I would be interested to hear from others in HSPA+ enabled areas to run multiple speedtest test with HSPA on and off and see what happens.
Or do I sound completely insane and don't know what I'm talking about?
I would rather AT&T throttle the HSPA+ speeds until the network is ready than to deal with what happened to Sprint's network when the EVO 4g first launched. I heard the entire network went down for maybe up to an hour due to all the bandwidth being eaten up in certain areas.
Maybe AT&T is trying to avoid this from happening?
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I would rather AT&T throttle the HSPA+ speeds until the network is ready than to deal with what happened to Sprint's network when the EVO 4g first launched. I heard the entire network went down for maybe up to an hour due to all the bandwidth being eaten up in certain areas.
Maybe AT&T is trying to avoid this from happening?
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funny, that is NOT what we are paying for! we are paying for 4G service, we expected to have 4G speeds! (we paying for 4G phone, FAKE!) and we paying for HSPA+/4G data plan, FAKE!).
If i pay for cable internet, i expect to have cable internet speeds!, not 56k dialup speeds!
someone please complain to FCC for me!
When my son gets home with the iPhone 4 tomorrow, I'm going to do some side-to-side comparisons as well....probably followed up with a call to ATT. I was told the Inspire would be faster then the iPhone 4 because it was 4G and not 3G. If that isn't the case, I think some monthly credits should be in store until they turn the 4G speeds on.
I'm paying the same price now for data as I was with my blackberry pearl on EDGE, same when I had my iPhone 3g on 3g. Also same price I'm paying now when I used my Captivate. AT&T openly admits that its 4g service isn't throughout their coverage 100% yet and say that they are working on expanding their 4g service.
Nowhere on my bill does it say I'm paying $30 for 4g service specifically.
edit: I forgot they had specific 4g data plans. Yeah that does suck for those who have to pay for that.
dacket84 said:
AT&T openly admits that its 4g service isn't throughout their coverage 100% yet and say that they are working on expanding their 4g service.
Nowhere on my bill does it say I'm paying $30 for 4g service specifically.
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I agree. But when the salesman says it will be faster and your phone has the check box next to H+ and you are getting less than 3G speeds, that is on them. If they are not giving you H+ speeds, and you are even getting less than 3G, they should show Edge instead. Anything less is false advertising.
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I agree. But when the salesman says it will be faster and your phone has the check box next to H+ and you are getting less than 3G speeds, that is on them. If they are not giving you H+ speeds, and you are even getting less than 3G, they should show Edge instead. Anything less is false advertising.
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I agree with that as well. I think AT&T should limit the H+ data plans to areas where it is confirmed to avoid these problems with customer satisfaction. They have a coverage map and enough techs out there. I'm sure they could at least tell their store associates to not recommend the H+ data packages to people in areas that aren't getting the speeds.
But instead I'm sure they would rather let people buy something they can't use blindly so they can get more profit.
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I'm paying the same price now for data as I was with my blackberry pearl on EDGE, same when I had my iPhone 3g on 3g. Also same price I'm paying now when I used my Captivate. AT&T openly admits that its 4g service isn't throughout their coverage 100% yet and say that they are working on expanding their 4g service.
Nowhere on my bill does it say I'm paying $30 for 4g service specifically.
edit: I forgot they had specific 4g data plans. Yeah that does suck for those who have to pay for that.
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The price is the same if you have a 4g plan or a 3G plan.
Signing up for different plans doesn't matter. At the end of the day its the same cost. The 4g provisioning is only to access hspa+. Its the same cost whether you live in Ohio with 3g or Philly with hspa+. If your gonna get the inspire you might as well have them provision the hspa+ so when it is.available you can access it.
My issue is the throttling on the hspa connection. As I mention, I'm on a medianet plan which doesn't cover hspa. I'm NOT on a pdanet plan. All this was discovered because I was thinking about ditching my $10 a month unlimited data and signing up for the tiered 2gb hspa plan. I wanted to know the speed difference. And then I found out everything I wrote above.
Obviously I'm sticking with my 3g until things change.
Like I said, I would be interested in seeing thorough tests done around the rest of the country to and see if this holds true. In the lower Susquehanna valley in pa the hspa network is.being throttled.
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come on guys, really... ANOTHER thread like this???
Its plain and simple, you are paying for data package, thats it! you are not paying for speeds! This isn't like cable, or DSL where you are paying for speed tier.
You can complain all you want, but they have not advertised a speed that you would be getting, they may have advertised what 4G is capable of, but have made no claims as to what you will be getting.
I'm not just paying for a data package. If all they did was have a data package with no speed reference, that would be one thing. But I'm paying for a 4G data package. "4G" either means something or it doesn't. If they don't really mean 4G speed, they shouldn't call the data package "HSPA+/4G". When the salesman says you will get better performance with 4G over 3G, and then they very publicly say that they are not throttling back the speeds, that means something. Or it should anyway. Whether we should expect to be lied to or expect false advertising from them is an entirely different matter.
I'd love to get faster than 2mb down but I'm not gonna complain. I knew exactly what I was getting myself into when I got the phone. I knew it wouldn't be 4G and so did each and every one of the people posting in the inspire forums. Regardless of at&t excuses and BS.
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OH, well then my mistake... i would like to complain that i have a 4G data package but not getting the "4G speeds" while on edge..
Obviously no one is expecting to get HSPA+ speeds while connected on a HSDPA, UMTS, or edge network. Again, the issue is speeds only while connected to HSPA+ networks. I understand not everyone in the country even has access to this yet. And those that do, service is spotty at best.
But I do think when you are in a full coverage area, and compare side by side speeds, and you are getting double the download speeds consistently on HSDPA then HSPA+, then that's an issue.
Actually, that isn't quite accurate. I didn't know about XDA or the speed deception until after the purchase. I knew that some folks had complained about AT&T throttling it back, but also read that they denied it. So I just figured that it was a case of some unique individuals in poor reception areas.
honestly, i think all really depends on the radio. I wish i would have taken pictures before i sold my dell streak, but i was getting consistent speeds of 6 down x 3 up on the stock O2 2.2 rom here in the St. Louis area. Now with the inspire, i have yet to see anything over 2.5 down x 1.8 up. I was using the same media net apn on the dell streak. So unless the caps have changed in the past months, then i am blaming the radio in the inspire.. but i dont care, the speeds are sufficient for my needs.
mepis said:
Welp, here's the background info. I work with AT&T next to a corporate store. I have an rooted Inspire 4g. With my Inspire I'm actually on the media net plan and not the PDA data plan.
So anyway I was bugging a work friend a joking around with him about switching me over to unlimited data (smartphone plan) so I could get off of the medianet plan. I got curious and asked him about the whole 4g provisioning thing that was an argument in another thread. We pulled up a customers account and he showed me, you do in fact need it provisioned to access hspa+. But that's not thing fun part of the story. It's been debated numerous times.
I asked him if we even got HSPA+ where I live. It turns out that we do. I just never noticed it because of the data plan I'm provisioned for. So my curiosity got the best of me. We walked over to the display Inspire and verified it was connected to HSPA+. He had already installed speedtest.net on the phone to try it out. We ran it. And I was shocked. The phone was measuring 1.5 down. We already know the HSUPA shebackle. But really? Only 1.5 down?
In utter disbelief I pull out my phone. He knows what plan I'm on and knows it's rooted. I do have the stock radio on though, and non of the build.prop tweaks that have been mentioned. Standing right next to the Demo, on HSDPA, my phone pulls down 3.5 a second.
Now he's shocked. I'm running straight off HSDPA and the demo is connected at HSPA+. We double check that the phones are testing against the same servers on speedtest. We run multiple tests. And consistently my phone pulls a higher data rate then the demo on HSPA+. To make sure we're not going insane we double check everything again between the two phones.
It turns out an engineer was at the corp. store that day. He pulls out his iPhone 4 and shows us something more interesting. His phone, testing against the same speedtest server, always pulls down around 5.
He informs us that iPhones get preferred treatment over the network. This is nothing new or unsuspected. But HSPA+ connectivity is severely throttled. This is deliberately down by AT&T because the network isnt able to handle the workload yet. There also isn't any time frame when the throttling will be lifted.
This just blew my mind. I expected it to be backed down some with it being a new network that's not completely developed, but this much is astounding to me.
I would be interested to hear from others in HSPA+ enabled areas to run multiple speedtest test with HSPA on and off and see what happens.
Or do I sound completely insane and don't know what I'm talking about?
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There's a really good reason why you out performed the stock inspire. Your build.prop is edited to use Hsdpa and hsupa setting hsxpa=3, but stock inspire has hsxpa=1 which only let's it use 3.6Mbps Hsdpa with 384kbps up. Setting hsxpa=3 let's you connect to hsupa and the 7.2Mbps network speeds.
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There's a really good reason why you out performed the stock inspire. Your build.prop is edited to use Hsdpa and hsupa setting hsxpa=3, but stock inspire has hsxpa=1 which only let's it use 3.6Mbps Hsdpa with 384kbps up. Setting hsxpa=3 let's you connect to hsupa and the 7.2Mbps network speeds.
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Is there a way to set hsxpa=30 for broadband speeds? Short of that, can I set hsxpa=3 without rooting the Inspire? I'm not opposed to rooting, but it is more complex than I can handle right now.
You can't edit build prop without rooting first. I think if you get temp root it would revert any changes back to stock.
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Is there a way to set hsxpa=30 for broadband speeds? Short of that, can I set hsxpa=3 without rooting the Inspire? I'm not opposed to rooting, but it is more complex than I can handle right now.
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Yeah you can only edit if you root.
I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
Thanks
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ok i just got t-mobile last month and i don't mind there service my family has it here they say they don't get a lot of dropped calls as far as data goes i think they are realiable i can't say i get a great speed in my apartment but i also live in a odd 4g coverage spot when I'm not home though the speeds are great. as amatter of fact i put a iphone to shame with the speed the guy thought he was something having one lol. but my speeds and coverage are based off the dell streak 7. hope i was helpful
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I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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Here is my take on it. I was with AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Sprint, and Verizon and now I have switch to T-Mobile. I switched to T-mobile a couple of weeks ago and the coverage isn't 100% great but I honestly think that HSPA+ is better for the phones today. Its not that fast all the time and we all know LTE is amazing but the battery consumptions of these circuits is insane. I owned the Thunderbolt. 45mins of active LTE use and the phone was DEAD. I would rather have slower data speeds and be able to use the device for longer.
What you can expect with Tmobile is at least 1Mbps if you haven't gone over your data allocation. After that you can expect about 300-800kbps. The highest data rate i've seen on tmobile is about 8Mbps. You probably won't have too much less coverage than Sprint but there is far less coverage than Verizon and At&t.
Depending on your coverage - data speeds can be real good (I average 5mbps). Data throttling will depend on the plan you choose.
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Depending on your coverage - data speeds can be real good (I average 5mbps).
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T-Mobile data is usually great in most average to larger sized cities. You should be ok in Indy but find a T-Mobile friend if you can to verify the speeds where you live.
T-Mobile outside of a city or in a super-dense population like NY can be spotty or slow.
I'm in Indianapolis an I always get 4mbps down an 1.2mbps up I just switched from Sprint u will defiantly see a improvement
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I was a sprint customer, in MY AREA Sprint service went down the crapper. Tmo coverage in my area is fantastic, and has been on my recent travels around the country. Sprint->tmo was well worth it for me. Can't speak for ur coverage area tho.
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I just recently switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. With the speedtest.net app I was averaging 300-500 Kbps with Sprint. I'm averaging anywhere from 7-10 Mbps with T-Mobile. The coverage area is great here where I live, and I actually pay less then I was paying with Sprint.
I am in NYC and I have T-mobile for a long time already, recently switch to Sensation 4G and I am getter in average 3mbps download and 1.2 up.
Speeds are great if you are in an area where they have rolled out HSPA+. I get around 7-9 Mbps up and 1-2 Mbps down. If you reach your cap, they throttle you down to EDGE (200-300 Kbps), but some people have said their speeds go even lower than that.
i concur...
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Speeds are great if you are in an area where they have rolled out HSPA+. I get around 7-9 Mbps up and 1-2 Mbps down. If you reach your cap, they throttle you down to EDGE (200-300 Kbps), but some people have said their speeds go even lower than that.
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I average 5mb down/ 2mb up outside of Washington DC. However, when I am in a sweet spot I have averaged 8/9mb down 2/3mb up. These are great for not being on wifi. HOWEVER, if you are NOT in a tower-rich area you will hate your service. Riding from Virginia to South Carolina recently (on 95 south and 85 south) i maintatined a 2g connection 80% of the time. This severly limited my internet capabilities and download speeds. It was not until I draove through major cities that a strong signal came up. I was very disappointed in this. Results may vary for you though.
When I'm on EDGE Opera Mini makes life so much better. I go from NV to AZ a few times out of the year and I can browse forums, image boards and etc. with no problems due to the image compression. Loads as fast as 3G would.
Sprint's 3G network is really slow, I don't think you will have speed issues if you switch from Sprint to T-Mobile especially with this being a 42Mbps market. I'm not going to say 7-10Mbps is network wide but you should have at least 1Mbps
I am in Tulsa, OK and average 8.5-10.5 mb down and 1.5-2.5 mb up. I went with the 5gb of data and usually finish my billing cycle with 1/2-1 gb to spare.
My wife usually goes over her 5gb, and does get throttled, but its not unbearable. It's edge, but it works for a couple of days a month. She runs a blog and tethers her phone to our laptop or Iconia tablet.
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I switched from Sprint because every time I had any issue at all, it was several hours on the phone trying to get it fixed. Not to mention trying to find someone in a store that could do more than pull a new phone out of a box.
So far I am happy. The high speed data is much better than the old Evo. But the lower 2G leaves something to be desired. I may get throttled in the future, but the next tier is only the cost of the "4G fee" that Sprint charged me for my evo that I tried to use the two times I was in an area that had it and found out it pretty well sucked.
I don't think you'll loose much by leaving Sprint, unless you like the saying "Can I put you on hold?"
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I average 5mb down/ 2mb up outside of Washington DC. However, when I am in a sweet spot I have averaged 8/9mb down 2/3mb up. These are great for not being on wifi. HOWEVER, if you are NOT in a tower-rich area you will hate your service. Riding from Virginia to South Carolina recently (on 95 south and 85 south) i maintatined a 2g connection 80% of the time. This severly limited my internet capabilities and download speeds. It was not until I draove through major cities that a strong signal came up. I was very disappointed in this. Results may vary for you though.
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That's pretty standard with T-Mobile. If you spend all your time in the city, they are great to use. For travelers... not so much.
I left Verizon for T-Mobile about 6 years ago and never looked back. I live in the SF Bay Area and get about 6-8 Mbps down. Not only T-Mobile will unlock you phone for you. I have bin to Thailand and Mexico with my phone and used none T-mobile sim cards. I am not looking forward to the T-mobile AT&T merger. I think the only people that are going to make out in the deal is AT&T customers.
Im with you OP - I was with Sprint (a convert from AT&T iPhone to the EVO 3D) - I loved the phone but for 2 weeks I tried to live with the Data on Sprint and I just couldnt do it. I have been with Tmobile for 2 weeks and have had NO data issues and I do in fact get a data signal where my Sprint service got nothing (At the Hockey Rink / Etc). I have tested Edge (2G) speeds and they are still faster than what I was pulling from Sprint - So I was happy and so is my wife. I hated to drop the 3D phone, but I needed reliable Data.
Make sure you tell Sprint why you are leaving (if you do) - They argued with me that data is fine and I showed them speed tests on 3 of their phones at 120-175k (one was 1.5Mb, as they stated, but I showed them Wifi was on!!! - Disabled it and down the tubes it went). I then showed my Sensation to them and I was pulling 6Mb (around 6000k down and 2000k up) - They said, "Well, yeah, your bill will be higher" - I pay $5 less and I am on the 5GB plan - and I showed them Edge speeds with the 4G Disabled, where I would get unlimited, and they had no more comments.
Sprint sales people are great, I had no issues with them - but They need a HUGE upgrade to stay in this business.
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I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is T-Mobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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Well for me in Indiana coverage is average with the other two big dogs. Sprint just flat out sucks. I switched from sprint to tmo and never looked back. Sim card based phone service. Better data speeds. More 3g and 4g towers by far.
As for Speed after data cap you go to 2g speed after you hit the cap. Which is way better then being totally cut off or paying overage. plus if Att and Tmo merger goes through the next gen devices will have an amazing coverage because the two network will eventually become one.
I'm down in Atlanta and been with tmo for many moons...I got the g2x and I will honestly say at times the network really bumps and hauls ass. There isn't many times ItS slow....
I usually use around 4-5 gb of data. N the one month I used 6.7gb they said I would b throttled but never was for the remaining week of the cycle..
But with.tmo it all depends on ur area..do ur research if it's not too late.
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I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
Thanks
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(1) Honestly tmobile coverage isn't the best. When you get coverage, it's very good (it's pretty good in Chicago). Your best bet is see if you have any co-worker at your workplace who uses tmobile and test.
(2) Edge speed. I signed up for 2GB. My normal usage is around 1GB (slightly below, my workplace has good wifi and I use wifi most of the time), and get close to 2GB if I use tethering a lot that month. 5GB is $10/month more expensive. Sign up for 2GB and pay $10 to switch to 5GB if you run over, and switch back to 2GB next month.
Don't waste your time.. Unless you don't mind 119 kB/s data speeds. Just to give you an idea of how slow that is, it takes about a minute to load www.nytimes.com. Ridiculous.
I've quadruple checked the APN settings, rebooted multiple times, and even activated the service with 2 of their SIM cards (Yes, I paid for 2 months of service with 2 sim cards to try and get this crap to be worth it)..
A quick Google search also turned up many similar complaints. Too bad I didn't do my research. This is all on their "3G" data plan.
Don't waste your time like I did.
on my first try, i just hit 4mbps with only 2 bars of reception on 4g with the $60/month simple mobile plan
I second that I called t-mobile when I first got this phone just to figure out how my vibrant was beating it hands down on speedtest 10/10 times. You gotta get the $60 plan to get 4g speeds.
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I'm on the Simple $60 4G..Using CM7 ROM overclocked to 1.4..My data speeds are crazy fast ,[email protected] ..Dunno but in Miami/Nyc only Verizon LTE can barely beat my T-Mobile data..I had a Thunderbolt with LTE and if in the right spot it was a rocket but cost twice as much a month..
I see. So it looks like the 4G plan is worth it, but the 3G one should still not be advertised as 3G if it runs at 2G speeds.
Oh well, none of the customer service agents were able to mention any of this so I already switched back to T-Mobile.
Finally spoke to someone at Simple Mobile tech support that was able to tell me something that makes sense. At least in my case and it may be the issue for others as well.
I switched my SIM from a Verizon Motorola Droid 2 Global, that only supports EDGE / 2G connection to a Tmobile Sidekick 4G. Which is considered a Samsung Galaxy S 4G.
Well the problem is that it connects at 4G and since I am on the $40, when it does try to connect to the towers I am not authorized for 4G, so it automatically throttles me to 119..
He suggested I toggle 4G off and connect 3G and I should get full speeds... My problem now is that this phone doesn't have an option or toggle, that I know of to test.
Perhaps someone else that knows how to toggle a SK4G could give me a hint or someone could put this to the test on their, it would help the rest of us resolve this mystery.
-CC
3G and "4G" are both throttled. In fact, switching to EDGE will get you faster speeds near 150 kbps.
The $60 plan isn't worth it. It isn't really unlimited, I get one or two customers per month with disconnected Internet. Hard cap is somewhere around 3-4gb. Another thing is that their MMS is hardly ever working even on "compatible phones".
I jumped ship to the tmobile $60 monthly plan. I've yet to see any customer get disconnected. I don't use international texts so I don't miss simple and my MMS works flawlessly.
That being said, if Simple capped it slightly higher, about 200kbps I would be all over it, $20 saved are $20 earned lol
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Hello guys. Could somebody on the T-Mobile 30$ unlimited text and data (100min talk) please post what internet speed you get using Speedtest, and what region you live in pretty please?
I read about links to get this offer online without going to Walt-Mart, but not much more info (have searched here).
I use MetroPCS, which has improved in the last few years, and get a solid 0.52Mbps (34.3 kB/s) on another phone (Motion 4G) which is more than enough to use Tunein Radio, Pandora, or iHeartRadio nonstop in Pompano FL. Signal does drop on less rural areas, but it's not bad at all.
T-Mobile on the Moto G in the Atlanta area. Great speeds, mostly H+ 10mbps+ on average.
My moto g arrived last week. I had the gsm tmobile micro Sim and $30 prepaid refill card from Safeway kiosk ready when I called to activate (on line the plan is not shown). The rep began in forming me of many options but I politely told him I wanted the same plan we were using on wife's phone the monthly prepaid $30 5gb 100 minute plan. He said I can do that put me on hold came back in 2 more minutes we were done.
With my testing using speed test I get, depending on signal strength, from256k to 20mg. This is with 3g showing in signal strength bars. I was in Vegas last week for CES and averaged around 9mb the whole time
On my nexus 4 the signal strength indicator shows H for hspa T-Mobile lte. The moto g shows 3g which appears to be old/slower generation but I and others report speed results to be similar to hspa on the nexus4
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showkit said:
My moto g arrived last week. I had the gsm tmobile micro Sim and $30 prepaid refill card from Safeway kiosk ready when I called to activate (on line the plan is not shown). The rep began in forming me of many options but I politely told him I wanted the same plan we were using on wife's phone the monthly prepaid $30 5gb 100 minute plan. He said I can do that put me on hold came back in 2 more minutes we were done.
With my testing using speed test I get, depending on signal strength, from256k to 20mg. This is with 3g showing in signal strength bars. I was in Vegas last week for CES and averaged around 9mb the whole time
On my nexus 4 the signal strength indicator shows H for hspa T-Mobile lte. The moto g shows 3g which appears to be old/slower generation but I and others report speed results to be similar to hspa on the nexus4
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It shows 3G, but you are on HSPA+. Check under settings>about phone>status you should see "Mobile Network Type" UMTS is 3G while HSPA+ is H. The US models don't show the H in the status bar.
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Thanks for the info guys.
The 30$ unlimited text/data 100min a month seems to have been replaced for the 40$ a month unlimited talk/text but only 500MB of LTE, and then NO data after that unless you pay for it daily/weekly.
That is insane for me, but I guess it makes sense for people in other situations.
Does anyone have more speed results on the older 30$ plan?
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Thanks for the info guys.
The 30$ unlimited text/data 100min a month seems to have been replaced for the 40$ a month unlimited talk/text but only 500MB of LTE, and then NO data after that unless you pay for it daily/weekly.
That is insane for me, but I guess it makes sense for people in other situations.
Does anyone have more speed results on the older 30$ plan?
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I know this thread is a little old, but I got the Moto G off Swappa and the $30 unlimited text data and 100min "kit" at Walmart about a month ago for my teenage daughter. Perfect plan considering teenagers never use a phone for talking, lol. Works great.
The plan may only be available through Walmart now. When I call Tmobile about the plan before buying the kit, they don't me the plan wasn't available, but I had just seen it at the store. So I went back and got the kit. Made a mistake in activating, called Tmobile and the next service person totally knew what I wast talking about and fixed my mistake.
DDNV
thenetvines said:
Thanks for the info guys.
The 30$ unlimited text/data 100min a month seems to have been replaced for the 40$ a month unlimited talk/text but only 500MB of LTE, and then NO data after that unless you pay for it daily/weekly.
That is insane for me, but I guess it makes sense for people in other situations.
Does anyone have more speed results on the older 30$ plan?
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"
100 minutes talk | Unlimited text | First 5 GB at up to 4G speeds
Now get unlimited international texting from the U.S. to virtually anywhere included in your plan—at no extra charge.
This plan is only available for devices purchased from
Wal-Mart or devices activated on T-Mobile.com"
It's still on their website same spot as always.