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Fun thing I noticed about 4g service while at work.

Welp, here's the background info. I work with AT&T next to a corporate store. I have an rooted Inspire 4g. With my Inspire I'm actually on the media net plan and not the PDA data plan.
So anyway I was bugging a work friend a joking around with him about switching me over to unlimited data (smartphone plan) so I could get off of the medianet plan. I got curious and asked him about the whole 4g provisioning thing that was an argument in another thread. We pulled up a customers account and he showed me, you do in fact need it provisioned to access hspa+. But that's not thing fun part of the story. It's been debated numerous times.
I asked him if we even got HSPA+ where I live. It turns out that we do. I just never noticed it because of the data plan I'm provisioned for. So my curiosity got the best of me. We walked over to the display Inspire and verified it was connected to HSPA+. He had already installed speedtest.net on the phone to try it out. We ran it. And I was shocked. The phone was measuring 1.5 down. We already know the HSUPA shebackle. But really? Only 1.5 down?
In utter disbelief I pull out my phone. He knows what plan I'm on and knows it's rooted. I do have the stock radio on though, and non of the build.prop tweaks that have been mentioned. Standing right next to the Demo, on HSDPA, my phone pulls down 3.5 a second.
Now he's shocked. I'm running straight off HSDPA and the demo is connected at HSPA+. We double check that the phones are testing against the same servers on speedtest. We run multiple tests. And consistently my phone pulls a higher data rate then the demo on HSPA+. To make sure we're not going insane we double check everything again between the two phones.
It turns out an engineer was at the corp. store that day. He pulls out his iPhone 4 and shows us something more interesting. His phone, testing against the same speedtest server, always pulls down around 5.
He informs us that iPhones get preferred treatment over the network. This is nothing new or unsuspected. But HSPA+ connectivity is severely throttled. This is deliberately down by AT&T because the network isnt able to handle the workload yet. There also isn't any time frame when the throttling will be lifted.
This just blew my mind. I expected it to be backed down some with it being a new network that's not completely developed, but this much is astounding to me.
I would be interested to hear from others in HSPA+ enabled areas to run multiple speedtest test with HSPA on and off and see what happens.
Or do I sound completely insane and don't know what I'm talking about?

I would rather AT&T throttle the HSPA+ speeds until the network is ready than to deal with what happened to Sprint's network when the EVO 4g first launched. I heard the entire network went down for maybe up to an hour due to all the bandwidth being eaten up in certain areas.
Maybe AT&T is trying to avoid this from happening?

dacket84 said:
I would rather AT&T throttle the HSPA+ speeds until the network is ready than to deal with what happened to Sprint's network when the EVO 4g first launched. I heard the entire network went down for maybe up to an hour due to all the bandwidth being eaten up in certain areas.
Maybe AT&T is trying to avoid this from happening?
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funny, that is NOT what we are paying for! we are paying for 4G service, we expected to have 4G speeds! (we paying for 4G phone, FAKE!) and we paying for HSPA+/4G data plan, FAKE!).
If i pay for cable internet, i expect to have cable internet speeds!, not 56k dialup speeds!
someone please complain to FCC for me!

When my son gets home with the iPhone 4 tomorrow, I'm going to do some side-to-side comparisons as well....probably followed up with a call to ATT. I was told the Inspire would be faster then the iPhone 4 because it was 4G and not 3G. If that isn't the case, I think some monthly credits should be in store until they turn the 4G speeds on.

I'm paying the same price now for data as I was with my blackberry pearl on EDGE, same when I had my iPhone 3g on 3g. Also same price I'm paying now when I used my Captivate. AT&T openly admits that its 4g service isn't throughout their coverage 100% yet and say that they are working on expanding their 4g service.
Nowhere on my bill does it say I'm paying $30 for 4g service specifically.
edit: I forgot they had specific 4g data plans. Yeah that does suck for those who have to pay for that.

dacket84 said:
AT&T openly admits that its 4g service isn't throughout their coverage 100% yet and say that they are working on expanding their 4g service.
Nowhere on my bill does it say I'm paying $30 for 4g service specifically.
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I agree. But when the salesman says it will be faster and your phone has the check box next to H+ and you are getting less than 3G speeds, that is on them. If they are not giving you H+ speeds, and you are even getting less than 3G, they should show Edge instead. Anything less is false advertising.

djeaton said:
I agree. But when the salesman says it will be faster and your phone has the check box next to H+ and you are getting less than 3G speeds, that is on them. If they are not giving you H+ speeds, and you are even getting less than 3G, they should show Edge instead. Anything less is false advertising.
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I agree with that as well. I think AT&T should limit the H+ data plans to areas where it is confirmed to avoid these problems with customer satisfaction. They have a coverage map and enough techs out there. I'm sure they could at least tell their store associates to not recommend the H+ data packages to people in areas that aren't getting the speeds.
But instead I'm sure they would rather let people buy something they can't use blindly so they can get more profit.

dacket84 said:
I'm paying the same price now for data as I was with my blackberry pearl on EDGE, same when I had my iPhone 3g on 3g. Also same price I'm paying now when I used my Captivate. AT&T openly admits that its 4g service isn't throughout their coverage 100% yet and say that they are working on expanding their 4g service.
Nowhere on my bill does it say I'm paying $30 for 4g service specifically.
edit: I forgot they had specific 4g data plans. Yeah that does suck for those who have to pay for that.
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The price is the same if you have a 4g plan or a 3G plan.

Signing up for different plans doesn't matter. At the end of the day its the same cost. The 4g provisioning is only to access hspa+. Its the same cost whether you live in Ohio with 3g or Philly with hspa+. If your gonna get the inspire you might as well have them provision the hspa+ so when it is.available you can access it.
My issue is the throttling on the hspa connection. As I mention, I'm on a medianet plan which doesn't cover hspa. I'm NOT on a pdanet plan. All this was discovered because I was thinking about ditching my $10 a month unlimited data and signing up for the tiered 2gb hspa plan. I wanted to know the speed difference. And then I found out everything I wrote above.
Obviously I'm sticking with my 3g until things change.
Like I said, I would be interested in seeing thorough tests done around the rest of the country to and see if this holds true. In the lower Susquehanna valley in pa the hspa network is.being throttled.
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come on guys, really... ANOTHER thread like this???
Its plain and simple, you are paying for data package, thats it! you are not paying for speeds! This isn't like cable, or DSL where you are paying for speed tier.
You can complain all you want, but they have not advertised a speed that you would be getting, they may have advertised what 4G is capable of, but have made no claims as to what you will be getting.

I'm not just paying for a data package. If all they did was have a data package with no speed reference, that would be one thing. But I'm paying for a 4G data package. "4G" either means something or it doesn't. If they don't really mean 4G speed, they shouldn't call the data package "HSPA+/4G". When the salesman says you will get better performance with 4G over 3G, and then they very publicly say that they are not throttling back the speeds, that means something. Or it should anyway. Whether we should expect to be lied to or expect false advertising from them is an entirely different matter.

I'd love to get faster than 2mb down but I'm not gonna complain. I knew exactly what I was getting myself into when I got the phone. I knew it wouldn't be 4G and so did each and every one of the people posting in the inspire forums. Regardless of at&t excuses and BS.
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OH, well then my mistake... i would like to complain that i have a 4G data package but not getting the "4G speeds" while on edge..

Obviously no one is expecting to get HSPA+ speeds while connected on a HSDPA, UMTS, or edge network. Again, the issue is speeds only while connected to HSPA+ networks. I understand not everyone in the country even has access to this yet. And those that do, service is spotty at best.
But I do think when you are in a full coverage area, and compare side by side speeds, and you are getting double the download speeds consistently on HSDPA then HSPA+, then that's an issue.

Actually, that isn't quite accurate. I didn't know about XDA or the speed deception until after the purchase. I knew that some folks had complained about AT&T throttling it back, but also read that they denied it. So I just figured that it was a case of some unique individuals in poor reception areas.

honestly, i think all really depends on the radio. I wish i would have taken pictures before i sold my dell streak, but i was getting consistent speeds of 6 down x 3 up on the stock O2 2.2 rom here in the St. Louis area. Now with the inspire, i have yet to see anything over 2.5 down x 1.8 up. I was using the same media net apn on the dell streak. So unless the caps have changed in the past months, then i am blaming the radio in the inspire.. but i dont care, the speeds are sufficient for my needs.

mepis said:
Welp, here's the background info. I work with AT&T next to a corporate store. I have an rooted Inspire 4g. With my Inspire I'm actually on the media net plan and not the PDA data plan.
So anyway I was bugging a work friend a joking around with him about switching me over to unlimited data (smartphone plan) so I could get off of the medianet plan. I got curious and asked him about the whole 4g provisioning thing that was an argument in another thread. We pulled up a customers account and he showed me, you do in fact need it provisioned to access hspa+. But that's not thing fun part of the story. It's been debated numerous times.
I asked him if we even got HSPA+ where I live. It turns out that we do. I just never noticed it because of the data plan I'm provisioned for. So my curiosity got the best of me. We walked over to the display Inspire and verified it was connected to HSPA+. He had already installed speedtest.net on the phone to try it out. We ran it. And I was shocked. The phone was measuring 1.5 down. We already know the HSUPA shebackle. But really? Only 1.5 down?
In utter disbelief I pull out my phone. He knows what plan I'm on and knows it's rooted. I do have the stock radio on though, and non of the build.prop tweaks that have been mentioned. Standing right next to the Demo, on HSDPA, my phone pulls down 3.5 a second.
Now he's shocked. I'm running straight off HSDPA and the demo is connected at HSPA+. We double check that the phones are testing against the same servers on speedtest. We run multiple tests. And consistently my phone pulls a higher data rate then the demo on HSPA+. To make sure we're not going insane we double check everything again between the two phones.
It turns out an engineer was at the corp. store that day. He pulls out his iPhone 4 and shows us something more interesting. His phone, testing against the same speedtest server, always pulls down around 5.
He informs us that iPhones get preferred treatment over the network. This is nothing new or unsuspected. But HSPA+ connectivity is severely throttled. This is deliberately down by AT&T because the network isnt able to handle the workload yet. There also isn't any time frame when the throttling will be lifted.
This just blew my mind. I expected it to be backed down some with it being a new network that's not completely developed, but this much is astounding to me.
I would be interested to hear from others in HSPA+ enabled areas to run multiple speedtest test with HSPA on and off and see what happens.
Or do I sound completely insane and don't know what I'm talking about?
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There's a really good reason why you out performed the stock inspire. Your build.prop is edited to use Hsdpa and hsupa setting hsxpa=3, but stock inspire has hsxpa=1 which only let's it use 3.6Mbps Hsdpa with 384kbps up. Setting hsxpa=3 let's you connect to hsupa and the 7.2Mbps network speeds.

RogerPodacter said:
There's a really good reason why you out performed the stock inspire. Your build.prop is edited to use Hsdpa and hsupa setting hsxpa=3, but stock inspire has hsxpa=1 which only let's it use 3.6Mbps Hsdpa with 384kbps up. Setting hsxpa=3 let's you connect to hsupa and the 7.2Mbps network speeds.
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Is there a way to set hsxpa=30 for broadband speeds? Short of that, can I set hsxpa=3 without rooting the Inspire? I'm not opposed to rooting, but it is more complex than I can handle right now.

You can't edit build prop without rooting first. I think if you get temp root it would revert any changes back to stock.
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djeaton said:
Is there a way to set hsxpa=30 for broadband speeds? Short of that, can I set hsxpa=3 without rooting the Inspire? I'm not opposed to rooting, but it is more complex than I can handle right now.
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Yeah you can only edit if you root.

Inspire users in Louisiana

I just wanted to see if its just the service in my area or maybe I'm u using the wrong radio and ril on my phone, but I seem to get god awful dl/ul speeds on my phone even though it claims to be on h+/4g when I run tests or just I use the phone to surf. Guess what I'm asking is what are the speeds you guys/girls are getting, both up and down, in and around the new orleans area? At around 3 or 4 am ill get 3Mb down 1 up. On a daily basis though I see dl speeds of less than 1Mb and 150-250kbps up. speeds

I am down here in Thibodaux and when doing a speed test it is showing a server out of New Orleans. I am pulling download at appox. 2.25Mbps and Upload at appox 1.15Mbps. This is with the upgrade and I am not rooted sitting in my kitchen....I can get a little better when driving around the area...I will be your area later today and will run another.

I have the same issue in Florida. It's ATT imo. The phone has H+ but is running on hsdpa. That's 7.7 mbps 3G. Enhanced backhaul my ass. I contacted ATT corporate and will be waiting for a response.

North Louisiana Shreveport area, same very slow dl/ul running radio 4.11_m2 matching Ril. I agree it's ATT, My wife's new one is the same way.

In New Orleans now and I get about the same as I do in Thibodaux. My phone is not rooted.

its really annoying that they have up paying for 4g service but half the time its edge or a tiny bit better

Well your not actually paying any more for 4G compared to 3G........
Projectdwnshft said:
its really annoying that they have up paying for 4g service but half the time its edge or a tiny bit better
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i live in natchitoches and they just turned on 3G after a year of delays and its been going on and off all day with peoples phones, like theirs super spotty coverage but the best speeds i got were 2.2 down and 0.8 up

Bossier City Area
My speeds are very similar to yours...
I get about 1 down at BEST... and I struggle to get that.
I've gotten up speeds of 150-300 the majority of the time but have seen this spike to 1Mb inconsistently with some radios.
I'm on Coredroid. My most consistent results are using the AT&T OTA radio from April 29th.

[Q] What's your data plan and speed with '4g'?

I have:
Grandfathered unlimited data with 300 texts for 24.99usd/mo.
At 4g I get around 2.55mpbs up and .71mpbs down (all approximate of course).
When I was live chatting with tmo, the rep to activate my new SIM card as well as confirming my IMEI number, the rep said I needed an android plan. I responded that I had a nexus one and was running 3mpbs easy with the same data plan. And they responded with the blanket statement of you won't be getting the full data 4g speeds without it. Which I think is BS ....
So what plan are you guys on and what are your speeds using speedtest?

kpjimmy said:
I have:
Grandfathered unlimited data with 300 texts for 24.99usd/mo.
At 4g I get around 2.55mpbs up and .71mpbs down (all approximate of course).
When I was live chatting with tmo, the rep to activate my new SIM card as well as confirming my IMEI number, the rep said I needed an android plan. I responded that I had a nexus one and was running 3mpbs easy with the same data plan. And they responded with the blanket statement of you won't be getting the full data 4g speeds without it. Which I think is BS ....
So what plan are you guys on and what are your speeds using speedtest?
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If you were getting 3Mbps on your Nexus One (3G), and only .71 on the Sensation (4G), what makes you think that it's BS that you won't get 4G speeds without paying for a new data plan? The facts you've stated prove that this may be the case.
With 4G, you should be getting at least 10Mbps down I'm presuming, as even with my Samsung Vibrant I'm getting consistently 6Mbps down on a 3G connection.

I just purchased the Sensation at Wal-Mart here in Virginia and its amazing. T-Mobile doesn't have a store where I live and the only place you can buy one of there phones is at Wal-Mart or Radio Shack but T-Mobile is the only one of the big 4 that has 4G in my area and MAN IS IT 4G! As soon as I left the store I did a speedtest with the app and hit 6.8 mbps and 7.5 mbps! It flies! The reason though that T-Mobile isn't popular here is the coverage is spotty at best but I have a sprint phone also and i ported my number to google a while back so when I know I'm in a bad coverage area for T-Mobile I will just use my Sprint phone. Getting ready to test the camera out and see how good that is. I'm on the unlimited data plan btw...

I'm trying to get my facts straight really. From what I have read so far in the various threads is that some with the older plans (not android) have the same speeds. So I am curious in what people are getting with the 4g speeds and what data plan they are using to get their speeds. I mean if I 'need' to buy into another plan to get the speeds and that is a said fact, I will get the 'android' plan.

I don't have an Android plan. I just renewed my contract last month and got the unlimited web, 5gb, for $20 and was running an iPhone 3g (edge only). Last week I purchased the Sensation at Walmart and no changes were made to my account/plan. I live in the Phoenix market and my speeds vary depending on location. I have seen them as high as 9 mbps and as low as 1 mbps. I would say I average around 3 mbps

Also, check out this thread over in the development section regarding increasing your speeds -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017

There is no difference. Speed varies are from many other variables, but data plans are data plans. The only differences between android data plans are the amount of mb you get.
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I have done the Data Latency mod and it really didn't improve anything. So the old data plans people are using are still able to get the 4g speeds?

i pay £15.00 a month ($24.26) with my carrier/network: O2
I get
300 minutes to any carrier/network any time
unlimited calls to other o2 customers anytime
unlimited texts to any carrier/network anytime
unlimited internet anytime
30 day notice contract, no cancellation charges, no lengthy ties, cancel when i want it to cancel.

Using the automatic server selection on speedtest.net app, I get around 3mbps downloads and .17mbps up. But knowing I am in San Antonio I chose that server, even though it says its further away. Selecting that server I get 6.72mbps download and .29mbps up.
Are there any other speed test apps out there? Im going to check now.

ikhzter said:
i pay £15.00 a month ($24.26) with my carrier/network: O2
I get
300 minutes to any carrier/network any time
unlimited calls to other o2 customers anytime
unlimited texts to any carrier/network anytime
unlimited internet anytime
30 day notice contract, no cancellation charges, no lengthy ties, cancel when i want it to cancel.
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The UK (and most of Europe) have far better plans then here in the US. They also do a much better job IMO of protecting the consumer.

jlevy73 said:
The UK (and most of Europe) have far better plans then here in the US. They also do a much better job IMO of protecting the consumer.
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True, here they normally like to put the customer first. just say your leaving, they dont want you to leave lol

I am getting 7mb to 8mb down and 1.5mb to 2mb down...
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Ok, so while driving home I saw that my 4g bars were maxed and did a speedtest at a stoplight and I the got up to 8mbps up....so I guess my unlimited data plan does work still.
Please all, when you post your speeds, please also post what type of data plan you are using (ie unlimited plan, 5gb plan, or 200mb android plan). Thanks.

Data Plan = MyTouch3g $25
SIM card = old SIM with no numbers on it (considered their 2g SIM)
Soft Cap = None I've ever hit
4g speeds = 6-7 Mbs average, 9-10 Mbs max seen
Speeds remain the same for me even after I get my text warning and account message about the 5 Gb cap. At 8 Gb right now this month. This is an older plan though.

Use the FCC speedtest app made by ookla. The speedtest.net app they have tends not to be accurate. It sometimes shows that you have 7 or 8 mbps down but when you check the history for your speed test its actually lower. Their other app the FCC speed test is more accurate imo
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mcp2009 said:
Use the FCC speedtest app made by ookla. The speedtest.net app they have tends not to be accurate. It sometimes shows that you have 7 or 8 mbps down but when you check the history for your speed test its actually lower. Their other app the FCC speed test is more accurate imo
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Speedtest is accurate, but ONLY from the history screen. Don't believe the display speed.

Thanks trying it out now.
Seems like the FCC app works a bit better in terms of connecting. However, I am in San Antonio, TX and the closest server is in California. I have changed the server to Dallas and ran the test.
I am now getting about 3-5 mpbs uploads with 4 bars at 4g. And yes you do not need to go to the history screen to get the true reading anymore

digiholic said:
Speedtest is accurate, but ONLY from the history screen. Don't believe the display speed.
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Exactly lol.
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I am in Orlando , which tmo says is one of there stronger 4g markets...
I consistently get speeds less than 1.5 dl and .50 ul. My nexus S and Nexus run a consistent 3 dl and .90 ul.. I cant figure out why this phone has slower speeds.. Sim card is up to date. I have had the same android data for some time now.. Even my lady gets a 3 or better dl on her g2x and we are in the same house. Before you say switch the phone and sim, I have already done both and it is the same.

[Q] Need some advice on switch to T-Mobile

with sprint now and getting so tired of the lousy network...at home i have 4G, if thats wat you wanna call it, but away from home, 90% of my day, i have slowG... speeds of .3 - .5 kbs...
i do like the unlimited data though, and i typically use alot. i went from the Evo to the Nexus S4G just waiting for the SGSII but am not convinced on my carrier anymore..
so how is Tmob ? how are the speeds ? network ? prices and data ? yes i can read the pages from there own website...i have...i wanna know the ins and outs of ppl who have been with them awhile before i switch...
ty for your help

dezel29 said:
with sprint now and getting so tired of the lousy network...at home i have 4G, if thats wat you wanna call it, but away from home, 90% of my day, i have slowG... speeds of .3 - .5 kbs...
i do like the unlimited data though, and i typically use alot. i went from the Evo to the Nexus S4G just waiting for the SGSII but am not convinced on my carrier anymore..
so how is Tmob ? how are the speeds ? network ? prices and data ? yes i can read the pages from there own website...i have...i wanna know the ins and outs of ppl who have been with them awhile before i switch...
ty for your help
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Yeah man, I was using a friends Evo 4G the other day and was amazed at how slow the 3G speeds are. She said it was normal (~150kbit down in downtown Sacramento). The deal killer for me would be that she has to activate another radio to get 4G (if in a 4G area) which significantly impacts battery life. For reference, I live in the foothills of Northern California and I only get 3G (UMTS/HSDPA) at home. At home I get 500-700kbit down and 700-1000kbit up. If I go a couple miles toward the freeway, I start picking up 4G (HSPA+) and get 1.0-1.5mbit down and 1.5-2.0mbit up. As I get closer to Folsom and Sacramento my speeds continue to rise. In downtown Sacramento (where I spend most of my time) I get 4-7mbit down and 6-8mbit up. I'm very happy with my speeds and my 3G and "4G" are done with the same radio (HSPA+ is just a speed upgrade of HSDPA and uses the same radio tech) so getting 4G speeds has no noticable impact on battery life. I know T-Mobile's network footprint is the smallest of the big 4, but it works everywhere that I've ever needed it to work. As for data plans, just make sure you get one with 5gb of full speed data. Sidenote, I thought Sprint's data is only unlimited on 4G? In terms of pricing, I've found that once I add on everything I want/need all the carriers end up about the same +/-10% so I haven't concerned myself with that too much.
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I'm in NYC, speeds about 4-7M down, 2M up. No complaints really.
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I'm in norcal, my tmo is much better than sprint IN MY AREA. It varies greatly based on location. I loved my EVO(network was great when I first started using it), but it was like a ferrari with no gas there at the end. I travel very frequently with my job, both in and out of the country, and I haven't had a problem yet anywhere in the US. Don't spend enough time in one place to get foreign sims, plus WiFi is almost everywhere now.

WHY does my INFUSE work 10x better on TMobile network than ATT?

Need to vent here. Have ATT / Infuse unlimited data plan, etc.
My signal sucks and i live in city center los angeles
i have to use a hacked up microcell in order to get that to give me ok boost but still not what it should. In my house, without microcell I get ZERO bars..
Unlocked my device a few days ago (easy thank you forums for one click)
picked up a $10 PAY AS YOU GO sim card at TMOBILE.
Reset Factory / WITH Tmobile number SIM card inside and lord or lord...
FACTS:
--- FIVE BARS EVERYWHERE AND ANYWHERE! NOT ONE SIMPLE HICCUP OF SERVICE.
--- DATA speeds on TM registered as EDGE though I am going tell all truly, its not. IT IS 4G + more. I have been testing and getting D/L speeds (w/WiFi off) of 15-18MBPS
Mind you, this is consistently when phone is on TM
--- More FUN....market instantly downloaded TM stock apps (obviously thinking its their phone) though there is a problem here. TMOBILE grants my phone FULL TELENET GPS SOFTWARE 24/7. --- ATT charges $10.00 a month for their crappy version.
---- More FUN x2 - TM grants me a full FREE unlimited use of QIK video chatting. No software restrictions. AT&T charges you I believe $5.00 a month to have the extras, on a network that it really doesn't work half the time.
How good is the VIDEO chatting & Mess? ITS AWESOME, ITS FAST & ITS QUICK no waiting no hiccups, etc. etc.
When I transfer ATT SIM back in the video chatting software remains full unlocked though its nearly useable.
I now have to come to believe that ATT is truly the problem. the phone explosed with power + fun on a network that can handle the infuse + or allow it to be run as a killer phone.
As long as ATT remains on delivery its wireless customers the worst mobile service ever, sadly most infuse users will never get to see the push & power that really is inside the INFUSE.
while att makes more money than ever, continues with the mega-mergers back and forth over and over - passing the billl 9 rate increases on to its customers.
THIS HONESTLY IS INEXCUSABLE. ---
though on a good note...the phone rocks on TM just for reference.

No issues here.
Running off MIUI Rom

Uhhh correct me if im wrong here, but AT&T does not charge for the use of QIK does it?

Sorry, this is bull. I worked for Tmobile for a long time and i'm familiar with an HSPA+ network, and in order to even get near those speeds on an HSPA+ 21 device you'd have to have the utmost prefect network conditions on their
AWS band.
AT&T has no AWS band. Also, you'd be hard pressed to find even an HSPA+ 42 device on Tmobile that would get those speeds. A device seldom gets near the theoretical max unless you're in a testing zone with no congestion from other users and no issues with interference, signal propagation, etc...
You'd only see those speeds on WiFi with the Infuse, unlocked on Tmobile's network, else EDGE speeds would be around 50kbps or less.
If you want to prove it, take a speed test with the Ookla app and post the screen shot here.
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att doesnt pass bill rate increases unless the customer upgrades plans. you are entitled to the contract you siged with the old provider and in many cases you can renew it seemingly indefinately. i know people with basic phones that still pay cell one bills.
also you must live in a very good city for t-mobile. att rules in my area though mos people are brainwashed into having verizon plans. we got h+ here and i get 10-11 mbps down. verizon is lucky to get 1mbps and often falls back to a 1g symbol on some phones.
as for t-mobile, in my area it is very spotty. sounds like you found happyness with them and so do many others, more power to you guys, if t-mo was viable for me i'd switch but it's not. though the h+ on t-mo with the infuse sounds sketchy and the speeds are the only posible utmost perfect scenario.

i believe .15-.18 MBPS but 15-18 naw.

just look at the screen name. tells the whole story.
TheMan42; said:
If you want to prove it, take a speed test with the Ookla app and post the screen shot here.
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^^^what this guy said.^^^ picks or it didn't happen

Its possible but I doubt it
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Do this. Load a custom ROM and change wireless settings to 2G networks. You will have 5 bars wherever you are, even on AT&T.

Curious about this myself, I pulled out my old T-mo prepaid sim I keep as a backup for when my contract is up, fired it up, and tried using some data. I got EDGE speeds in a H+ area with T-Mo. T-Mo has faster EDGE than AT&T but certainly not the speeds you're claiming. Not saying what you said was BS but it is either location dependent or my Infuse just sucks. Then again, I get about 8mbps down 2 up on AT&T where I live...

TheMan42 said:
Sorry, this is bull. I worked for Tmobile for a long time and i'm familiar with an HSPA+ network, and in order to even get near those speeds on an HSPA+ 21 device you'd have to have the utmost prefect network conditions on their
AWS band.
AT&T has no AWS band. Also, you'd be hard pressed to find even an HSPA+ 42 device on Tmobile that would get those speeds. A device seldom gets near the theoretical max unless you're in a testing zone with no congestion from other users and no issues with interference, signal propagation, etc...
You'd only see those speeds on WiFi with the Infuse, unlocked on Tmobile's network, else EDGE speeds would be around 50kbps or less.
If you want to prove it, take a speed test with the Ookla app and post the screen shot here.
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\also a previous tmobile slave
everything he said is correct
(at the time i had regular 3g (samsung captivate) and my speed test would often beat the top speeds of the tmboile devices instore.

The OP's name is bogustbaxter, obviously just someone trying to get attention. Good job. I don't think tmo allows unlimited video chatting, they have data limits like anyone else, it's not possible to get those speeds, etc. This is dumb. It should be closed

U want unlimited go to sprint...only true unlimited data around...was with them 5 years til this year when I swithced to att cause I fell in love with infuse....came from evo 4g(awesome phone btw)...but their plans for data are the best I ever used...speeds are compettitive in my area...they don't cover as well as att tho...
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dman3285 said:
U want unlimited go to sprint...only true unlimited data around...was with them 5 years til this year when I swithced to att cause I fell in love with infuse....came from evo 4g(awesome phone btw)...but their plans for data are the best I ever used...speeds are compettitive in my area...they don't cover as well as att tho...
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Sprint is also going to be ending their unlimited plans. Its also a shame Sprint's data speeds are awful in comparison to Verizon and att.
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I beg to differ...with sprint 5 years...data speeds were faster and more reliable than att all day in my area...regret leaving..
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Dont get me wrong...i love my infuse..but att service and customer service needs alot of work...
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dman3285 said:
Dont get me wrong...i love my infuse..but att service and customer service needs alot of work...
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Amen to that!! I have been with ATT since 2004..i am testing different modems as we speak. I wonder does anyone know is there a way to know what modem is best for a certain area?? I searched and searched ATT and NEVER get anywhere. I don't even know and can't seem to find out what typical speeds should be for me. I live in Northern CA. about 8 miles from town...there is actually an ATT store here that offers NO help. If the weather is right, wind, clouds, and if i stand on one foot and spin MAYBE i get like on average 1.60mbps down. the highest i have ever gotten is 4.00 ...thought it was a fluke. I am on my 4th modem to test. UCKj1 seems to be better FOR me than KK1 (aweful), Ki3 (ok), and Ki4 (not so much).

dman3285 said:
Dont get me wrong...i love my infuse..but att service and customer service needs alot of work...
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The real problem is, what carrier has good service and support? Have friends on all major carriers and they all stink. The best one of the bunch is Sprint who has crap coverage and 3g only around my area. Best thing about then is the 10 bucks a month they tack on for having a 4g phone that does not get 4g, what a joke! I see lots of ATT slamage but I don't see what make the others any better. Ok they have the slowest feauxG of all but that is LOTS better than charging more for nothing.