Database Info

USB Tethered SpeedTest Video

Taken during the peak hours in NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC10FMD8kg&hd=1

milan03 said:
Taken during the peak hours in NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC10FMD8kg&hd=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those are FANTASTIC results, I'm not getting anything close to that on the 4G in Ohio

milan03 said:
Taken during the peak hours in NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC10FMD8kg&hd=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get a license for Windows 7 you bum! LOL
Those are awesome btw. I am on 3g in NC, but I pull 3 mbps all day, it's faster than my home broadband, but still not 40+ mbps.

IISiDeK1CKII said:
Get a license for Windows 7 you bum! LOL
Those are awesome btw. I am on 3g in NC, but I pull 3 mbps all day, it's faster than my home broadband, but still not 40+ mbps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol it was suppose to be Enterprise edition without a license needed

holy crap, i want to hook that up to my xbox

God I hope I get those speeds when 4G comes to Sioux falls. Anyone know if Verizon buys there bandwidth from local providers. I can only hope because midcontinent has some huge pipes!
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

I've taken a few videos during off peak hours. Hitting over 52mbps and about 6MB/s sustained when downloading a well seeded private torrent. Will post them in the same channel soon.

Chadashcroft22 said:
God I hope I get those speeds when 4G comes to Sioux falls. Anyone know if Verizon buys there bandwidth from local providers. I can only hope because midcontinent has some huge pipes!
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm in Rapid City, West River, we don't get LTE till next year, but MidCo is pretty awesome.

spac3m0nk3y said:
I'm in Rapid City, West River, we don't get LTE till next year, but MidCo is pretty awesome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how did you come to find out when you were getting 4G

Sioux city here, been told expect between August and December.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App

in Houston... and i also get 40+ down and 5+ up
the speed is great!

Just read the Sprint's complaint thats basically trying to negate LTE's speed supremacy at the moment. It's kind of sad and delusional.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/04/04/sprin...eed-tests-pitting-verizons-lte-against-wimax/

Is the USB tether free? If so how did you get it working? I've been having trouble.

Boss428man said:
Is the USB tether free? If so how did you get it working? I've been having trouble.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You simply plug in your phone to a Windows box and on your phone choose "Internet Connection Mode".
The service is free, but it's still unclear to me if it will stop being free after may 15th. I know that WiFi hotspot feature will be extra but I'm not sure about the USB tether.

Really i thought the mobile wireless hotspot was the only thing free for a few months? If memory serves me correctly doing what you just did by enabling "Internet Connection Mode"you are gonna get some big charges and I wanna say that feature has a 2gig limit and they will rape you on anything over that. Wanna say it falls under an actual data plan not even a smartphone data plan=giant ripoff.
Please correct me if I am wrong I just wanted to give you a heads up before you get a nasty bill if you are going buck wild tethering it up.
For Smartphones & Feature Phones
Mobile Broadband Connect & 3G Mobile Hotspots
Monthly Access Fee Monthly Data Allowance Per-GB Rate After Allowance
$20 2 GB $20
Only available with $29.99 or higher data package.
Taken from http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=plans
I am almost certain this is what that falls under or at least used to unless they changed things around.

Chadashcroft22 said:
Really i thought the mobile wireless hotspot was the only thing free for a few months? If memory serves me correctly doing what you just did by enabling "Internet Connection Mode"you are gonna get some big charges and I wanna say that feature has a 2gig limit and they will rape you on anything over that. Wanna say it falls under an actual data plan not even a smartphone data plan=giant ripoff.
Please correct me if I am wrong I just wanted to give you a heads up before you get a nasty bill if you are going buck wild tethering it up.
For Smartphones & Feature Phones
Mobile Broadband Connect & 3G Mobile Hotspots
Monthly Access Fee Monthly Data Allowance Per-GB Rate After Allowance
$20 2 GB $20
Only available with $29.99 or higher data package.
Taken from http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=plans
I am almost certain this is what that falls under or at least used to unless they changed things around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can anyone verify this? I'm logging into my vzw daily, and I'm only seeing data used under unlimited data plan... Nothing that indicates out of the ordinary usage charges.

milan03 said:
Can anyone verify this? I'm logging into my vzw daily, and I'm only seeing data used under unlimited data plan... Nothing that indicates out of the ordinary usage charges.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't matter, just use PDA net, wifi tether or any of the free alternatives on your unlimited data.

IISiDeK1CKII said:
It doesn't matter, just use PDA net, wifi tether or any of the free alternatives on your unlimited data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was going to use PDA net after may 15th. ICM performs so much better though. I'm really curious to see if they'll try to charge me.

in the notificatiion bar i don't see a network speed, it's neither 4g lte or 3g. what gives???

wardo5757 said:
in the notificatiion bar i don't see a network speed, it's neither 4g lte or 3g. what gives???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you connect your Bolt using USB and chose Internet Connection Mode, your phone's data connection is totally killed and basically transferred to your PC. All you see is a little USB logo top left.

Is this really unlimited data?

I know its advertised as unlimited data but a lot of them have that fictional cap etc. Reason im asking is my T-Bolt is upwards of 10gb used this month with 8 days left in the cycle haha. I havent even tethered really. I used 1gb a month on my AT&T iPhone, and 10 times more on this. Just dont want them throttling me or something.
Thanks

They might throttle you but as long as you made the cut then your grandfathered in on the unlimited
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

jbeitel said:
They might throttle you but as long as you made the cut then your grandfathered in on the unlimited
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess is id have to go much higher than 10gb for them to throttle. Plus im probably not really that high compared to a lot of people. Most people are really beating up LTE because its the newest thing. Its sickeningly fast!!

As far as I recall, in the contract's TOS they stipulate 5GB or more per month is considered evidence that you are using the phone to do things that are in violation of the TOS (such as hosting a website on your phone, running a public FTP server, etc.).
So while the connection it officially unlimited, there are activities that are considered violations of the service agreement, and 5GB per month is the sniff test.
I'd wager that in practice you have to go well beyond this before anything happens, especially if packet inspection shows you're reaching such high amounts through acceptable usage (e.g. non-stop pandora). I'd also wager that if anything were to happen, rather than cancel your agreement they would just speed cap you for a certain time.

funkybside said:
As far as I recall, in the contract's TOS they stipulate 5GB or more per month is considered evidence that you are using the phone to do things that are in violation of the TOS (such as hosting a website on your phone, running a public FTP server, etc.).
So while the connection it officially unlimited, there are activities that are considered violations of the service agreement, and 5GB per month is the sniff test.
I'd wager that in practice you have to go well beyond this before anything happens, especially if packet inspection shows you're reaching such high amounts through acceptable usage (e.g. non-stop pandora). I'd also wager that if anything were to happen, rather than cancel your agreement they would just speed cap you for a certain time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's been gone for a couple years. The only thing they have in there now is that the top 5% may be throttled.

Verizon throttle's the top 5% data users. Someone on here said they used 100GB in a week though (not too sure about that) so you're probably under that top 5%.

In the fine print unlimited data is 5gb with a 10$ overage per gb. Or that's what it used to be. This isn't including WiFi data that's free .
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

spaghetti_monster said:
In the fine print unlimited data is 5gb with a 10$ overage per gb. Or that's what it used to be. This isn't including WiFi data that's free .
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
highly doubt that. It would be illegal for them to call it unlimited.

How can you use 10gb without tethering?
Sent from Snarf high on SRF 1.02 till freezes are fixed

ERIFNOMI said:
Verizon throttle's the top 5% data users. Someone on here said they used 100GB in a week though (not too sure about that) so you're probably under that top 5%.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got it. I just read the contract terms. From the very bottom of the agreement:
Verizon Wireless strives to provide customers the best experience when using our network, a shared resource among tens of millions of customers. To help achieve this, if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand. Our proactive management of the Verizon Wireless network is designed to ensure that the remaining 95% of data customers aren't negatively affected by the inordinate data consumption of just a few users.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Isn't that top 5% from all users users (even dumb-phones)? If so the bar is set extremely low.

It says top data users, which at face value sounds to exclude dumb phone and include those with tether plans.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

Softcaps if you want to call it that is fine with me as long as I don't pay a pay per use or bundle charge. There IS a difference between unlimited DATA and unlimited BANDWIDTH.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

churro7 said:
How can you use 10gb without tethering?
Sent from Snarf high on SRF 1.02 till freezes are fixed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Easy, watch a baseball game or two on your phone and see how much data you just used. You would be surprised how easy it is to eat up data I usually go through a few GB to watch a full basketball game stream or something similar (which is the whole point of LTE because we now have proper speed to do such things just as we would on a desktop computer).

spaghetti_monster said:
In the fine print unlimited data is 5gb with a 10$ overage per gb. Or that's what it used to be. This isn't including WiFi data that's free .
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are confusing smartphone data with mobile broadband. Two separate things. Mbb
Plans are for dedicated hotspots, aircards, and tablets.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

I don't mind throttling as long as it's not too slow. 2-3mbps wouldn't bother me.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

i am a almost at 7gb. cycle ends 4/21
I done some light tethering. Mostly stuff on the phone. Pandora, speed tests, browsing, facebook, etc. 4g data is insane.
The pricing structure definitely needs to be changed for 4g data. 2-5gb would be insane.

I think the T-bolt is using more data than other phones for some reason. I used to barely hit 500mb on my Incredible in a month, and I am at almost 3GB this month on my T-bolt. It is connected to WiFi at home and at work, so I am only on LTE when I am commuting or otherwise away from home which isn't that often. I would say at most 1gb of that has been downloading ROMs, but otherwise I can't explain it. I haven't tethered at all other than once or twice to make sure it worked.
I actually have a LTE USB modem as well that I connect to a Cradlepoint router in my office which is what my T-bolt is connected to all day long at work along with my iPad. It hardly shows any data use, though. I am only up to about 1.2GB for this month, and that is mostly because I watched a couple of shows on Hulu on my iPad.

I've used 7GB so far, 21 days into my billing cycle. I have watched maybe 10 two-minute youtube videos, used xda app, wordfeud, downloaded some driver files for my laptop, facebook... no streaming hulu or netflix or anything. it does seem excessive, because i used to use 5GB max per month on sprint. then again their wimax and 3g are both awful and practically unusable. maybe my several dozen speedtests have contributed to the usage... hrmm
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

I've had my TB for about 10 days now. Looked on MyVerizon to check my usage: 55mb
I'm on wifi all day at work and at home. Not the anyone cares... just wanted to throw that out there seeing that everyone that has posted seems to be using well over 5gb lol.

We won!!!

Not sure if this was the same as the thread lower but hey... we won.. so get your money before att takes that away!
AT&T loses data throttling case - http://pulse.me/s/6kpUr
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

No he won. I didn't get a check for 850
. However all jokes aside. I feel like streaming Netflix for a few days straight and filing a small claims case when I get the throttled message.
Sent via smoke signal

Hahah go for it!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

Yay!! We won.. Now everyone should start constantly streaming netflix, pandora, and etc. Pretty soon our network will be as slow and useless as Sprints network. Yay!!!!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App

This gives the right to top 5% of the users to ruin the network for 95% of the people. Probably by running Netflix and leaving the room.
Yeah, total win.

Lucidmike said:
This gives the right to top 5% of the users to ruin the network for 95% of the people. Probably by running Netflix and leaving the room.
Yeah, total win.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well said throttling is not evil.
It is not like they say 1 or 2 Gig you are throttled, you really need to abuse the network.
FYI Maximum I ever used in a Month is 2 Gig and with that I was tethering my laptop.

I think the above posters are missing a huge point.. if the top 5% of the users were actually abusing the network, then fine, throttle reasonably away..
However, ATT was arbitrarily applying any user using 2G as a top 5% using some seriously fuzzy math and throttling them to a point where a dialup modem was faster.
My understanding is that the 5% value came about in some bull**** research paper payed for by ATT that stated 2G is the avg amount of data all users are using (some use 300 meg, some use 5G, etc), just an avg amount, but rather then taking the actual value of the top data users (some use close to 20 to 30 gig a month), they chose to take the avg amount, 2G, and apply that to every user that hit to 2G mark, and label them a top 5% user and throttle them..
That is evil, and unreasonable, they are using the fuzzy math in the same way they butchered the dictionary meaning of unlimited.

jvanbrecht said:
That is evil, and unreasonable, they are using the fuzzy math in the same way they butchered the dictionary meaning of unlimited.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I understand it, the average 2GB of use was done in a survey about 4 years ago, when the smart phone market wasn't as big as it is today.
So AT&T should back off and stop saying that the average users ONLY uses 2GB or less because that is totally bs.
I myself have always used between 30 to 50GB on average per month for the last 6+ years

Its stupid you should at least get 3 or so gigs to equate the amount you pay to the price equivalent tiered plan IMHO I'm not unlimited but am on your guys side on this that the way they are conducting business is wrong
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk

Lucidmike said:
This gives the right to top 5% of the users to ruin the network for 95% of the people. Probably by running Netflix and leaving the room.
Yeah, total win.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This guy doesn't get it.
(and sounds like the annoying, ignorant ranting from the OWS crowd)
AstroDigital said:
Well said throttling is not evil.
It is not like they say 1 or 2 Gig you are throttled, you really need to abuse the network.
FYI Maximum I ever used in a Month is 2 Gig and with that I was tethering my laptop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This guy doesn't get it.
jvanbrecht said:
I think the above posters are missing a huge point.. if the top 5% of the users were actually abusing the network, then fine, throttle reasonably away..
However, ATT was arbitrarily applying any user using 2G as a top 5% using some seriously fuzzy math and throttling them to a point where a dialup modem was faster.
My understanding is that the 5% value came about in some bull**** research paper payed for by ATT that stated 2G is the avg amount of data all users are using (some use 300 meg, some use 5G, etc), just an avg amount, but rather then taking the actual value of the top data users (some use close to 20 to 30 gig a month), they chose to take the avg amount, 2G, and apply that to every user that hit to 2G mark, and label them a top 5% user and throttle them..
That is evil, and unreasonable, they are using the fuzzy math in the same way they butchered the dictionary meaning of unlimited.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This guy gets it.

What people don't understand is AT&T knew this was going to happen and they did nothing at the time because they wanted subscribers. Now could they have forseen that netflix and hulu and things like that were going to be apps and eat up huge chunks of bandwidth(most likely not)
With the new 3GB and 5GB thresholds they announced for the unlimited users, I think we will see more of these kind of suits.
Now, imo, AT&T needs to get people OFF of the unlimted plans. Why?
1) the network is too congested and they need to get people to understand this
2) we already know unlimited is not "unlimited"
So, to save face, what they should do is make a small offering to the top 5% to try and get them away from the unlimted data plan(really just offer it to all unlimted people)
For those grandfathered in, offer 3GB of HASPA+ for $10 and 5GB of LTE for $10. This will #1 get those abusers of the system to watch their downloads a little more closely, and 2, if they go over they still have a little give in the terms of $$.
Now will AT&T ever do this, seriously doubt it.

Wrong. m4570d0n doesn't get it and sounds like the people who abuse bandwidth slowing it down for the rest of us. If you don't like the bandwidth cap, leave AT&T.

awesome that im not on att. There are people abusing the network and top 5 or 3 percent sounds about right. For the mathematically challenged its 1 in 20 or 33 data users.

Att changed their throttling policy or 'clarified' it according to news blogs
It's now at 5gigs for LTE, 3 FOR '4G', AFAICR
Sent from my 727

robor007 said:
Wrong. m4570d0n doesn't get it and sounds like the people who abuse bandwidth slowing it down for the rest of us. If you don't like the bandwidth cap, leave AT&T.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Given that you joined in 2007, yet this is one of only 3 posts you've ever made (none of which carry any meaningful content), please enlighten me. I'll make some popcorn.

[Q] AT&T new throttle policy

I'm just trying to figure out Att's new throttle policy.
Someone started the rumor that while talking to att's throttle department, they were told that it would be based on a person's last month's usage.
Each one of us was interpreting this differently. Some say you will only be throttled when you hit your last month usage. meaning if you used 30 gb then you can use up to 30 gb the following month. I thought it would be if your previous month's usage was in the top 5% then you are screwed this month. It seems counter productive for att to follow this policy. Everyone will be using as much data to have more speed the following month.
I did some research and could only find that att's policy was always to base the top 5% users on the previous month's statistics of their whole consumer base.
Can you guys confirm this? Especially for those who have been unthrottled. what is your previous months stat compared to this month?

Here
PC Mag article from today with some good information.

I don't see how they could fairly base it on how much you personally/individually used the prior month/billing period. That could be even worse for some that don't use that much data even though they have an unlimited plan, as they could conceivably get throttled at 500 MB - maybe less. And furthermore, it flies in the face of their supposed concern which is the alleged "data hogs" on the network. Plus, if that were the case, wouldn't you just stream Pandora or something every night while you sleep and eventually get your "allowed" GB limit way up after a few months?
To me, if you are going to go with the ambiguous top 5% (as opposed to a sort of soft "cap" like T-Mobile's 5 GB throttle threshhold) the only fair way to do it is to base the 5% from the previous month/billing cycle on a nationwide standard of all UNLIMITED plan users (those on tiered plans should not be used in the calculation). A nationwide standard seems more equitable than punishing or rewarding people based on where they live and establishing the 5% "for a person's region." Why should I be punished or rewarded just because I live in Dallas when compared to someone who lives in Atlanta or NY.
To me, if they are going to insist on throttling and claiming it is based on bandwidth/spectrum concerns (which it is clearly not, since I'm sure they would gladly let someone on a 3 GB tiered plan use 20 GB in a billing period and just charge them $170 more that period - and someone using 20 GB of data on a tiered plan uses the same amount of bandwidth/spectrum as someone using 20 GB on an unlimited plan), then a reasonable policy would be something like:
1) If you are unlimited, you get up to 5 GB without having your LTE speeds throttled...ever (similar to T-Mobile's policy)
2) Once you go over 5 GB in a billing period, you can be throttled to 3G speeds if you are on a congested tower, but once you are connected to a non-congested tower (whether because you are on the same tower when you got throttled, but it is no longer congested, or you changed towers because you left the house, got home, etc.) you are back to LTE speeds (similar to Verizon's policy)
No more of this ambiguous, inconsistent 5% nonsense. Put something concrete and transparent in place. And in my opinion, either #1 or #2 above would be better than what they do now.
However, I doubt they would ever put a policy in place that combined #1 and #2 above because it would likely not help achieve AT&T's goal with the throttling, which is clearly to "encourage" people to drop their unlimited plans for tiered plans so AT&T can make more money.

does anyone know the phone number to the throttle department?

AT&T’s policies are broken. First they decide to throttle the top 5% without releasing any information on what that is. Soon after we realize those using
Netflix, hulu, and slingbox were being throttled at around 2GB when others were being throttled much later (probably more closer to the real “top 5%” of the area)
Then AT&T stopped penalizing people using their phones to stream movies and tv shows and started throttling everybody at 2GB or less
Now, there are rumors of a “press release” which hasn’t been seen anywhere yet that says they will base throttling off last month’s data usage.
However things are about to change again, as a judge recently awarded a throttling customer $850 stating “it wasn't fair for the company to purposely slow down his iPhone, when it had sold him an "unlimited data" plan.”
This opens up a whole can of worms for AT&T, one they will feel. If even a fraction of those throttled gets a similar payout this would be very bad for AT&T. lets pretend 800,000x$850= $680,000,000
AT&T’s next move could quite possibly hurt the company more than any scandal it could ever imagine.
My guess is they will do less throttling and even that will be at higher levels then we have seen over the last few months, maybe around 5gb? 10gb? In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they stopped throttling all together.
Im sure after dude won his $850, at least 10’s of thousands of people have already filed small claims suits against the company already, when more of those articles come out, you will see that number jump to the hundreds of thousands.
if you haven't read about the small claims suit:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...data-throttling_n_1300212.html?ref=technology
http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/at-t-iphone-user-wins-data-throttling-case-850
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/att-throttling-customer/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mickeym...this-two-big-consumer-small-claims-victories/

I was "unthrottled" earlier this week....still there now.
Curious to see what happens next month
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App

Happy someone did it. I was forced to switch to a tiered plan from my unlimited because I was being throttled at around 2gb. That lasted maybe a week and a half then my new lte skyrocket was pretty much useless data wise. I'm on the 3gb plan for the same price. I hope more people sue att.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

00mred00 said:
I was "unthrottled" earlier this week....still there now.
Curious to see what happens next month
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much data did you use last month?
How much this month?

I'm more curious about their throttling department, I WOULD love to talk to them, since my last throttling was around 7 gb and now I'm being threatened around 3 gb, total bull****.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

I was warned in December at 4 1/2 gigs and then throttled in January at 2 gigs....BUT I was up in NY with LTE speeds in December but live in a non-LTE area so I think they considered me in the top 5% for where I live NOT where I was using the data. My fastest d/l speed at my house is 4mb. I think 4mb is throttled compared to people that have LTE so I think I shouldn't be throttled at all.

Oddly, AT&T continues to claim that throttling policies are in place to save spectrum, however, it would seem that the very people they try to throttle (unlimited LTE data plans) are using less "spectrum" overall than 2G and 3G users. That being said, people using rediculous amounts of data (abusive) need to be throttled...perhaps similar to Verizon's throttling which is currently a more fair approach. Here is an article about the "spectrum" crisis that could happen...
"LTE, for example, can handle roughly six to eight times the capacity of a 2G network. Some of those savings would be lost to users taking advantage of video and other high-bandwidth services available on LTE, but not so much as to use up all the increased efficiencies.
Graduated or tiered bandwidth pricing, likewise, discourages excessive network use by a few extreme customers, especially at peak times."
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...disaster-now-for-the-hard-part/#ixzz1nT31Jb5O

scott14719 said:
Oddly, AT&T continues to claim that throttling policies are in place to save spectrum, however, it would seem that the very people they try to throttle (unlimited LTE data plans) are using less "spectrum" overall than 2G and 3G users. That being said, people using rediculous amounts of data (abusive) need to be throttled...perhaps similar to Verizon's throttling which is currently a more fair approach. Here is an article about the "spectrum" crisis that could happen...
"LTE, for example, can handle roughly six to eight times the capacity of a 2G network. Some of those savings would be lost to users taking advantage of video and other high-bandwidth services available on LTE, but not so much as to use up all the increased efficiencies.
Graduated or tiered bandwidth pricing, likewise, discourages excessive network use by a few extreme customers, especially at peak times."
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...disaster-now-for-the-hard-part/#ixzz1nT31Jb5O
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While the tiered pricing may theoretically encourage people to use less spectrum, AT&T would happily let someone on a 3 GB tiered plan use 20 GB and change them an extra $170 that period.
The thing is that that tiered user takes up just as much spectrum to get to that 20 GB as an unlimited user who also uses 20 GB - the $10 charged for each additional GB of usage in a tiered plan does does not magically create additional spectrum. The ONLY difference is that the unlimited would essentially be paying $1.50/GB, while the tiered user would be paying $10/GB, and AT&T does not like that because they aren't making as much money as they could.
So while they can say that tiered plans encourage people to use less data (which to some extent it probably does/would) and that is a good thing because spectrum is limited, at the end of the day, the heart of the matter boils down to money...plain and simple. And AT&T wants to get people off unlimited plans, not because of a spectrum issue, but because they want to make more money.

privatewarrior1 said:
How much data did you use last month?
How much this month?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used 5 and was throttled last month...end total was 7
At 2 i was throttled this month. When unthrottled i was at 9. No clue what i am at now a week later but i will check
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App

You need to report this. From what I understand it is not supposed to be throttling at that low of usage AND if you are throttled, it should only be down to 3G speeds from LTE speeds.

I wouldn't mind as much if we were just throttled to 3g speeds.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

I wouldn't mind as much if we were just throttled to 3g speeds.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

astang99 said:
I wouldn't mind as much if we were just throttled to 3g speeds.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup.. it's gd terrible lol, I think edge is faster than their throttled speeds.

obliv said:
Yup.. it's gd terrible lol, I think edge is faster than their throttled speeds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that's correct. throttle speeds are edge speeds.

00mred00 said:
I used 5 and was throttled last month...end total was 7
At 2 i was throttled this month. When unthrottled i was at 9. No clue what i am at now a week later but i will check
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder if their new policy will begin next month and will be used on this month's use. I'm just debating whether I should raise my usage. I'm still below 2gigs unthrottled with some 10 days left.
btw I remember you were the one who said that this would be their new policy.
do you happen to have the throttle dpt direct #?

BTW i was thinking. should someone start a thread about the lawsuit on the att forums?

New info on throttling by AT&T

Looks like 3gb cap for 3g and 5gb for LTE
http://www.att.com/esupport/datausage.jsp?source=IZDUel1160000000U
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

I'm OK with this cap, I use 2-3gb every month and that's using 2 full batteries a day on my SR for Facebook, XDA, Reddit, and YouTube videos
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Now I never get close to 3GB but still would like to know.

nest75068 said:
So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't seem like it. It just says 4g lte smartphone, so if your not in a LTE area, but have a LTE phone you would have a 5gb cap
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

Bummer. I couldn't deal with the throttle any longer so I switched to a tiered plan last month.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

I think for an LTE imei registered smartphone it's 5gb. I can live with this, pretty much like the other carriers. If you don't have an lte, you're more likely going to get one in the future anyways. Now, let's see that data sharing policy in place ;-)
Sent from my HTC Vivid via Tapatalk

Finally, and I can live with 5gb. I just wonder now what the throttle speeds are. I wonder if att knew they where going to start getting sued LOL. Also I would like to think when we move to "5G" and such out data limits will increase. I think att knew they couldn't do this so they where super aggressive to make people drop their plans and only the diehards are left. Now that they reached a breaking point they are now being more fair. Yay for that Guy who sued them lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

When they say they will throttle us LTE users at 5GB, does that mean they are going back to the 2G edge speeds for the rest of the billing cycle, making our phones once again unusable, or is it going to be more of a Verizon type of throttling where it's only if it's during a certain peak-usage time on a congested tower, and even then it's down to 3G speeds?
If it's the latter, I am pleased. 5GB of LTE and then HSPA+ for anything over is fine by me. I must point out that non of the APN bypass things work for me at all anymore, so if after 5GB I'm on HSPA+, well, HSPA+ is still plenty fast for me.
If it's the former, however, then I'll still be just as disappointed. Actually pissed and outraged. Going from 2GB to 5GB to start throttling really is not much of an improvement to me, since if I wanted to, at these insane LTE speeds they are giving me in San Francisco (maxed out around 50Mbs down), I could download 5GB in about 15 minutes on LTE speeds. So hypothetically once my billing cycle reset, if after 15 minutes of heavy LTE usage I was then throttled to EDGE speeds for the rest of the month, I'll be pissed.
So yeah, anyone know? Are they still going to throttle at EDGE speeds for the remainder of the month regardless of peak times/congested towers/etc? If so, then this new 5GB LTE cap is still complete and utter bull****, just like 2GB was. But if it's NOT EDGE speeds, and not necessarily all the time until the next billing cycle, then it's welcomed.

nest75068 said:
So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Now I never get close to 3GB but still would like to know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is based on you data plan regardless of you are getting LTE is the way I read it. You might travel to an LTE area. If you have a LTE data plan it will be 5GB.

Straight from the web site.
Looks like you will remain throttled for the remainder of the billing cycle.
I understand the throttle speeds are supposed to be more usable and not the 56k modem speed crap they've been doing.
If you have a smartphone that works on our 3G or 4G network and still have an unlimited data plan,
You'll receive a text message when your usage approaches 3GB in one billing cycle.
Each time you use 3GB or more in a billing cycle, your data speeds will be reduced for the rest of that billing cycle and then go back to normal.
The next time you exceed that usage level, your speeds will be reduced without another text message reminder.
If you have a 4G LTE smartphone and still have an unlimited data plan, the same process applies at 5GB of data usage, instead of 3GB.
You'll still be able to use as much data as you want. That won't change. Only your data throughput speed will change if you use 3GB or more in one billing cycle on a 3G or 4G smartphone or 5GB or more on a 4G LTE smartphone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Emil9727 said:
Finally, and I can live with 5gb. I just wonder now what the throttle speeds are. I wonder if att knew they where going to start getting sued LOL. Also I would like to think when we move to "5G" and such out data limits will increase. I think att knew they couldn't do this so they where super aggressive to make people drop their plans and only the diehards are left. Now that they reached a breaking point they are now being more fair. Yay for that Guy who sued them lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well the fact that that iPhone user sued over not getting true unlimited and won probably influenced them a bit, not to mention I'm sure they were tired of getting reports from their CSRs of angry customers calling in to ***** about using 2.1 GB and being throttled and threatening to cancel unless they got some perk in response.
I also can live with 5GB. The only time I used excessive data was when I had to stream my SiriusXM all day at work. Now that I figured out how to get a signal with my regular radio I can safely stay below or around 2GB. The fact that I get up to 5GB because I have an LTE phone (although no LTE coverage, boo) and I'm paying $30 instead of $50 AND I just get slow speeds as opposed to $10 charge for going over has me satisfied.

im happy with 5GB.. its not "unlimited" but i think its manageable
the 2GB was BS which is why in my protest i was hitting 80GB a month but my avg is 3.5-4gb so im happy
no more protesting for me =)

rjohnstone said:
Straight from the web site.
Looks like you will remain throttled for the remainder of the billing cycle.
I understand the throttle speeds are supposed to be more usable and not the 56k modem speed crap they've been doing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well what is "more usable"? 3G speeds? Somewhere between EDGE and 3G?

I'm totally satisfied with this, as I never go over 5GB monthly, but I do go over 2GB.
We have won the battle.... but not the war my unlimited data friends. LOLOL
Sent from my Rocket that is in the Sky!