Is this really unlimited data? - Thunderbolt General

I know its advertised as unlimited data but a lot of them have that fictional cap etc. Reason im asking is my T-Bolt is upwards of 10gb used this month with 8 days left in the cycle haha. I havent even tethered really. I used 1gb a month on my AT&T iPhone, and 10 times more on this. Just dont want them throttling me or something.
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They might throttle you but as long as you made the cut then your grandfathered in on the unlimited
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They might throttle you but as long as you made the cut then your grandfathered in on the unlimited
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My guess is id have to go much higher than 10gb for them to throttle. Plus im probably not really that high compared to a lot of people. Most people are really beating up LTE because its the newest thing. Its sickeningly fast!!

As far as I recall, in the contract's TOS they stipulate 5GB or more per month is considered evidence that you are using the phone to do things that are in violation of the TOS (such as hosting a website on your phone, running a public FTP server, etc.).
So while the connection it officially unlimited, there are activities that are considered violations of the service agreement, and 5GB per month is the sniff test.
I'd wager that in practice you have to go well beyond this before anything happens, especially if packet inspection shows you're reaching such high amounts through acceptable usage (e.g. non-stop pandora). I'd also wager that if anything were to happen, rather than cancel your agreement they would just speed cap you for a certain time.

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As far as I recall, in the contract's TOS they stipulate 5GB or more per month is considered evidence that you are using the phone to do things that are in violation of the TOS (such as hosting a website on your phone, running a public FTP server, etc.).
So while the connection it officially unlimited, there are activities that are considered violations of the service agreement, and 5GB per month is the sniff test.
I'd wager that in practice you have to go well beyond this before anything happens, especially if packet inspection shows you're reaching such high amounts through acceptable usage (e.g. non-stop pandora). I'd also wager that if anything were to happen, rather than cancel your agreement they would just speed cap you for a certain time.
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That's been gone for a couple years. The only thing they have in there now is that the top 5% may be throttled.

Verizon throttle's the top 5% data users. Someone on here said they used 100GB in a week though (not too sure about that) so you're probably under that top 5%.

In the fine print unlimited data is 5gb with a 10$ overage per gb. Or that's what it used to be. This isn't including WiFi data that's free .
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In the fine print unlimited data is 5gb with a 10$ overage per gb. Or that's what it used to be. This isn't including WiFi data that's free .
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highly doubt that. It would be illegal for them to call it unlimited.

How can you use 10gb without tethering?
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Verizon throttle's the top 5% data users. Someone on here said they used 100GB in a week though (not too sure about that) so you're probably under that top 5%.
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You got it. I just read the contract terms. From the very bottom of the agreement:
Verizon Wireless strives to provide customers the best experience when using our network, a shared resource among tens of millions of customers. To help achieve this, if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand. Our proactive management of the Verizon Wireless network is designed to ensure that the remaining 95% of data customers aren't negatively affected by the inordinate data consumption of just a few users.
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Isn't that top 5% from all users users (even dumb-phones)? If so the bar is set extremely low.

It says top data users, which at face value sounds to exclude dumb phone and include those with tether plans.
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Softcaps if you want to call it that is fine with me as long as I don't pay a pay per use or bundle charge. There IS a difference between unlimited DATA and unlimited BANDWIDTH.
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churro7 said:
How can you use 10gb without tethering?
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Easy, watch a baseball game or two on your phone and see how much data you just used. You would be surprised how easy it is to eat up data I usually go through a few GB to watch a full basketball game stream or something similar (which is the whole point of LTE because we now have proper speed to do such things just as we would on a desktop computer).

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In the fine print unlimited data is 5gb with a 10$ overage per gb. Or that's what it used to be. This isn't including WiFi data that's free .
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You are confusing smartphone data with mobile broadband. Two separate things. Mbb
Plans are for dedicated hotspots, aircards, and tablets.
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I don't mind throttling as long as it's not too slow. 2-3mbps wouldn't bother me.
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i am a almost at 7gb. cycle ends 4/21
I done some light tethering. Mostly stuff on the phone. Pandora, speed tests, browsing, facebook, etc. 4g data is insane.
The pricing structure definitely needs to be changed for 4g data. 2-5gb would be insane.

I think the T-bolt is using more data than other phones for some reason. I used to barely hit 500mb on my Incredible in a month, and I am at almost 3GB this month on my T-bolt. It is connected to WiFi at home and at work, so I am only on LTE when I am commuting or otherwise away from home which isn't that often. I would say at most 1gb of that has been downloading ROMs, but otherwise I can't explain it. I haven't tethered at all other than once or twice to make sure it worked.
I actually have a LTE USB modem as well that I connect to a Cradlepoint router in my office which is what my T-bolt is connected to all day long at work along with my iPad. It hardly shows any data use, though. I am only up to about 1.2GB for this month, and that is mostly because I watched a couple of shows on Hulu on my iPad.

I've used 7GB so far, 21 days into my billing cycle. I have watched maybe 10 two-minute youtube videos, used xda app, wordfeud, downloaded some driver files for my laptop, facebook... no streaming hulu or netflix or anything. it does seem excessive, because i used to use 5GB max per month on sprint. then again their wimax and 3g are both awful and practically unusable. maybe my several dozen speedtests have contributed to the usage... hrmm
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I've had my TB for about 10 days now. Looked on MyVerizon to check my usage: 55mb
I'm on wifi all day at work and at home. Not the anyone cares... just wanted to throw that out there seeing that everyone that has posted seems to be using well over 5gb lol.

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Anyone else been throttled already?

2.5 weeks into my month i get texted that phone basically just became worse than my BB speeds because i use my phone too much. Anyone else enjoying the awesome speeds of .06mbs with me?
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i am still 2 weeks in but speed is still 6-9 mbps
but as i read somewhere , t mobile slows down your speed when you reach 2.5 gb
wizardslovak said:
i am still 2 weeks in but speed is still 6-9 mbps
but as i read somewhere , t mobile slows down your speed when you reach 2.5 gb
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You are getting EDGE like me. TMO throttles after 5GB until next bill cycle. But then, We are on the "LARGEST 4G Network" arn't We?
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We are on the "LARGEST 4G Network" arn't We?
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Yup, increase coverage and speeds, lower the data cap in half, and use up your data in half the time! I think if I did the math right, I can cap out 5gigs in about 9hours of watching netflix via my playon app alone; which is about 20min a day for a given 30 day month. They should of kept the 10gig at least, considering EVERYTHING this phone does practically uses the internet.
Wow, I didn't know they did that. I thought I used mine a lot, but I just checked and I only use about 500-600 MB a month, lol
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2.5 weeks into my month i get texted that phone basically just became worse than my BB speeds because i use my phone too much. Anyone else enjoying the awesome speeds of .06mbs with me?
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Me, i sure am enjoying 0.04mbs. Took me one week to reach my limit too. I cant wait til the next cycle, this is just terrible.
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icy56 said:
Me, i sure am enjoying 0.04mbs. Took me one week to reach my limit too. I cant wait til the next cycle, this is just terrible.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans.aspx?catgroup=mobilebroadband
Do you guys have the unlimited plan? Mine says I have unlimited remaining so I really hope they don't throttle it after 5gb, since I use a TON of internet.
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Do you guys have the unlimited plan? Mine says I have unlimited remaining so I really hope they don't throttle it after 5gb, since I use a TON of internet.
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Yup we are on unlimited.
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Yep, my wife and I have both been throttled and have unlimited. I hate TMO and can't wait to go to Sprint for real unlimited.
I never get close to this.. dont you have real internet, like 99.9% of the world, I believe even remote parts of Africa have internet.. you really dont need to tether your phone for everything.
wow wtf are you guys doing with your phones? tethering to your PC and broadcasting 1080p video on ustream?? My next billing cycle starts in 5 days and I've only used 250mb (I'm in a 4G area). I use my data A LOT too - youtube, surfing the web, market downloads, facebook, twitter, etc. I use an app called Line2 for my incoming/outgoing calls and text msgs which relys on my data and I still don't get close to 1GB.
I will tell you how I consume 5GB quickly.
I am an independent IT consultant where my clients don't allow access to their network with my machine. Therefore, I am tethered 12hrs every business day. Syncing a 3gb IMAP mailbox all day is a lot of data alone!
I consume 1GB every 3 working days.
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beto241 said:
I will tell you how I consume 5GB quickly.
I am an independent IT consultant where my clients don't allow access to their network with my machine. Therefore, I am tethered 12hrs every business day. Syncing a 3gb IMAP mailbox all day is a lot of data alone!
I consume 1GB every 3 working days.
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Then you should have the common sense to have a better internet solution than tethering.
I've never run into the data cap, not because I don't use my data, but because I'm actually wise about it and don't carelessly burn bandwidth. Use Wifi when available, don't try to consume as much data as you can.
How many of these threads do we need about how the OP didn't bother to check usage or ***** about data throttling?
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Yep, my wife and I have both been throttled and have unlimited. I hate TMO and can't wait to go to Sprint for real unlimited.
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buh bye now
Hey, we have no data limits at sprint..
Except you'll be lucky to see more than 300 kbps in most areas during the day with 3g, and ~2-5 Mbps on 4g. We have people in the evo forum *****ing about the extremely slow network, ready to jump ship to vz or elsewhere.
I've come to the conclusion there is no ideal solution. Each provider is a compromise of different elements such as price, service, data, features, etc.
Common Sense? I was answering a question as to how one can get the to 5gb limit, period.
Common sense says Tmobile should have told me about the 5gb threshold when I agreed to a contract, and fine print is not acceptable.
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Common Sense? I was answering a question as to how one can get the to 5gb limit, period.
Common sense says Tmobile should have told me about the 5gb threshold when I agreed to a contract, and fine print is not acceptable.
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Common Sense? You are expecting a Corporation sales person to be honest with you? They are interested in one thing and that is selling a product. They don't care if you get screwed in the end. They will just take your $200 ETF when you find out how much they lied to you... Well didn't disclose the TRUTH to you and you move on to the next corporation that does it to you in another way. That's what business has come to in America.
A warning would have been nice around 4gigs. TBH, if you say you use the web all the time and only have 4-500megs usage your lying. My biggest data drain went into streaming TV and music from my home server. I was unaware t-mobile even had a limit until i got the message saying I was cut off, because when i had my BB i would usually only average about 20megs a month usage. Hell, I ALMOST went with a 200meg connection, but didn't want to feel restricted so I went with unlimited.
These phones are beast, as they should be with a 4+meg connection! It just doesn't seem fair to offer us all these gadgets and offer us their TV packages and crap then take it away just barely into the month because we actually use what they advertised to sell the product!
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one more thing...
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I've only used 250mb-----market downloads
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On average my apps have been between 2-3megs each...
So at ~87 custom apps, that I have actually kept and not just downloaded to try, at 2.5megs each that's 217.5megs; a total which almost meets your usage so far alone.
Well, I'm in my first month with TMO and already got my 5GB notice. Isn't it nice. I get a ripping 20 KB/SEC on my best download but, usually around 10 to 12KB/SEC on AMERICAS LARGEST 4G NETWORK. That happened right in the middle of a SW update and their CRAPPY network could not even handle a text message and the download at the same time. They cut me down to 5KB/SEC and it took close to 2 hrs to DL 50MB. What a deal they are giving us. The big problem is the only company that I have ever been happy with is no longer doing business in my area. Lots to look forward to.

LTE data usage and you

I'm thinking of making the switch over to Att because of sprint's lack luster speeds and I was wondering if anyone is having issues staying under the data cap? I currently have unlimited data but I don't use my phone much anymore because i am usually either roaming or having sub 150k speeds.
Thoughts?
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The 2gb datapro plan is a good amount of data if you dont use netflix or slingplayer. You can use youtube but not too much. I recommend just getting a used ebay tmobile phone and using it with walmarts tmobile cheapo $50 plan. Then root the phone to remove the "4g" throttle. Or get the $30 walmart plan if you use less then 100 minutes or only use voip apps.
I'm 20 days into my first real billing month and have used only 546MB of my 2GB plan. At home and at work I have wifi, so my only data usage would be on the road. My significant data usage comes from streaming music on my way to work and going back home. That's about 45 minutes total, maybe a few minutes less sometimes, of constant streaming. I don't run any updates or download/install apps while out on the road. I also do some browsing and streaming music during the weekend too while I'm out of the house. I don't think I will reach 1GB this month...
What has you average been on sprint? You can see it online in billing. I have been on art since august after years with sprint and the difference was night and day. I use a ton of data though so I was fortunate that one of the existing lines on the family plan I joined had unlimited data
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I'm thinking of making the switch over to Att because of sprint's lack luster speeds and I was wondering if anyone is having issues staying under the data cap? I currently have unlimited data but I don't use my phone much anymore because i am usually either roaming or having sub 150k speeds.
Thoughts?
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What has you average been on sprint? You can see it online in billing. I have been on art since august after years with sprint and the difference was night and day. I use a ton of data though so I was fortunate that one of the existing lines on the family plan I joined had unlimited data
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That's the only thing I'm worried about. I usually average between 1.5 and 2.5 gigs a month but that's on sprint's crappy ass network where I can watch YouTube so that's basically all fb, internet browsing, picture uploads and misc stuff.
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My average is about 4gb a month. I am a heavy user (not an abuser) but I do try and use wifi when available. If I were to solely use the network I would come in somewhere around 15-20gb per month.
Keep in mind...going over just means they charge you $10 and give you another gb ...it isn't the end of the world and you have access to your usage at all times thus you can adjust if need be
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That's the only thing I'm worried about. I usually average between 1.5 and 2.5 gigs a month but that's on sprint's crappy ass network where I can watch YouTube so that's basically all fb, internet browsing, picture uploads and misc stuff.
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Im using the 4gb/month and never get anywhere near it.. but I do have a wireless router at the house for my "hot spots"
I'll probably just bite the bullet and grab the 4gb with hotspot. I don't Netflix or sling box at work so that will save plenty of data right there.
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I'll probably just bite the bullet and grab the 4gb with hotspot. I don't Netflix or sling box at work so that will save plenty of data right there.
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I like your Username...... "1488" part for sure
i was in the same situation. sprint customer for over 10 years. tired of crappy speeds. my usage was between 2 and 3 gigs.thats pandora, youtube, facebook and general surfing. i switched and cant believe i waited so long. i am on the 2gb datapro and thats fine as long as i use my wifi at home. i dont try to limit the use, i will just pay the $10 overage if i have to. at least i can watch a youtube clip without buffering every 5 seconds.
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I'm 20 days into my first real billing month and have used only 546MB of my 2GB plan. At home and at work I have wifi, so my only data usage would be on the road. My significant data usage comes from streaming music on my way to work and going back home. That's about 45 minutes total, maybe a few minutes less sometimes, of constant streaming. I don't run any updates or download/install apps while out on the road. I also do some browsing and streaming music during the weekend too while I'm out of the house. I don't think I will reach 1GB this month...
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Although I have an unlimited plan, I follow my data usage. For a typical billing period, I use something between 3 and 4 GB of data. I am a moderate user, mostly checking the web and email and hardly any streaming.
Make yhd switch you wont regret it. Internet on hspa+ or Lte is blazing fast compared to sprint. Had sprint since 07 left about 2 months ago. Last month my usage was 1.4 Gb. Normal internet usage really doesn't use that much data. And being unlimited is kind of overrated when your speeds stink.
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Dang... you guys use hardly any data.
I have unlimited data on a network that CAN handle heavy data easily, and I take advantage of that.
4 days in, 700MB used.
At this rate, it'll be about 3GB.... wow.
I though it'd be more then that, I'm actually trying to get throttled for a test...... time to download the entire Adobe Master CS5 collection on LTE.
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Dang... you guys use hardly any data.
I have unlimited data on a network that CAN handle heavy data easily, and I take advantage of that.
4 days in, 700MB used.
At this rate, it'll be about 3GB.... wow.
I though it'd be more then that, I'm actually trying to get throttled for a test...... time to download the entire Adobe Master CS5 collection on LTE.
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Don't they just charge you $10 for each GB past your limit?
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Don't they just charge you $10 for each GB past your limit?
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Not when you have unlimited data. They just throttle your speed.

AT&T increases unlimited data throttling threshold

New XDA user. Long time Android fanboy.
Registered to pass along this new article online that was released today. Though I would share for those like myself who are still on the unlimited data plan.
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AT&T revealed today that it has made some adjustments to its data throttling policy for customers still subscribed to legacy unlimited data plans. Customers on these unlimited data plans will now have a higher data cap before throttling kicks in. For those on HSPA+ plans the cap will be 3GB per month, while the cap for LTE customers will be 5GB.
AT&T’s unlimited data throttling policy was instituted back in October of the last year, but the company never did reveal in detail what the data cap would be for throttling, merely stating that only its top 5 percent of heaviest data users would be affected. Early last month, the company came under fire when some customers discovered that their unlimited data plans were being throttled after reaching only 2GB of data use, despite the plans costing the same as a current tiered 3GB plan.
It looks like enough pressure was applied that AT&T is now responding by raising the data cap and being more transparent about exactly where those thresholds sit. The caps are now 3GB for HSPA+ subscribers and 5GB for LTE subscribers, which is certainly a welcome boost up from the 2GB cap that appeared to be in force regardless of whether a customer was on an HSPA+ or LTE unlimited data plan. Users can check their monthly data usage by dialing “*data#” on their mobile phones.
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well this will suck for users like me, who every month use about 20-40GB
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well this will suck for users like me, who every month use about 20-40GB
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Wow, that's a lot of data! I use around 10Gb average, and I'm pissed about being limited to 5Gb. In fact, last month was the first month I have ever been throttled. That's far from "Unlimited". And don't give me that BS that "they don't promise unlimited speeds". At 0.14Mbps I can't get one damn song to buffer on Google Music. It's freaking terrible! Google maps is near impossible to use. They might as well turn our data off at those piss poor speeds!
I just hope we can get at least one dev to come up with a solution so we can stick it to AT&T!
Damn 10gb.
I hit my max of 3gb last month. That was mostly google music streaming, FB, EAS mail, web, and RDP connections.
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Wow, that's a lot of data! I use around 10Gb average, and I'm pissed about being limited to 5Gb. In fact, last month was the first month I have ever been throttled. That's far from "Unlimited". And don't give me that BS that "they don't promise unlimited speeds". At 0.14Mbps I can't get one damn song to buffer on Google Music. It's freaking terrible! Google maps is near impossible to use. They might as well turn our data off at those piss poor speeds!
I just hope we can get at least one dev to come up with a solution so we can stick it to AT&T!
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Goto sprint Jesus I dealt with that everyday with them so please quit complaining and enjoy what you have you pay less than me for the same amount of data
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Aww....After seeing the successful lawsuit against Att this month,I purposely stepped up my data usage in hopes of getting throttled.
Oh well at least they are relaxing their sheisty practices.
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Aww....After seeing the successful lawsuit against Att this month,I purposely stepped up my data usage in hopes of getting throttled.
Oh well at least they are relaxing their sheisty practices.
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THey throttled me last month without notification. Took a level 3 tiered Engineer to tell me they had a glitch in the system with unlimited data users. I said BS and they gave me my last months data charges refunded. It was just a matter of time before ATT got tired of taking heat for this hot topic.
Canceled my unlimited data plan two weeks ago to change to the 3GB tiered plan, because they were throttling me at 2GB. This "update" to the unlimited plan makes me furious!
att made a webpage on their site explaining this
http://www.att.com/esupport/datausage.jsp
If you guys are using 10GB+ .... You must not have Internet at home?? I have a 30Mbps down and 3Mbps up at home and I run 24/7 server, yet I achieve 500-800GB....
WOW , some smartphone users amaze me; must be sittin on da toilet using that bandwidth!
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If you guys are using 10GB+ .... You must not have Internet at home?? I have a 30Mbps down and 3Mbps up at home and I run 24/7 server, yet I achieve 500-800GB....
WOW , some smartphone users amaze me; must be sittin on da toilet using that bandwidth!
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Some of these users that you are disparaging do have jobs that require them to leave their homes (for days sometimes). Some of them are drivers and are on the road most of their time. Some work in jobs that have closed networks.
It would be nice if everyone was living on welfare or disability checks, sitting at home achieving those 800 gig a month stats.
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Some of these users that you are disparaging do have jobs that require them to leave their homes (for days sometimes). Some of them are drivers and are on the road most of their time. Some work in jobs that have closed networks.
It would be nice if everyone was living on welfare or disability checks, sitting at home achieving those 800 gig a month stats.
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Eh, I don't think he was really being malicious with what he wrote. To me it came across as more in awe that people are able to use that much data on a phone.
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Tru, but if they're in the road working, ur telling me that 10+ gigs is only emails and work communiques? I think not lol
The reason I use around 10Gb a month is that I can't use wifi at my job because we are hard wired due to the work we do (very secure), so I stream a lot at my job. Also, my gym doesn't have wifi and I work out 4-5 days a week (@ a minimum 2 hours each time) so I'm usually streaming music via Google music there. It's easy for me to chew through data, but I just don't have access to wifi very often.
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Tru, but if they're in the road working, ur telling me that 10+ gigs is only emails and work communiques? I think not lol
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Ofcourse not, my high usage has always been because if i have an unlimited datat plan i will use it. I use it to stream while on the road, which i am on 4 days a week and sometimes more.
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Ofcourse not, my high usage has always been because if i have an unlimited datat plan i will use it. I use it to stream while on the road, which i am on 4 days a week and sometimes more.
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I think the ideal solution would be if AT&T did it like Verizon. That would be awesome.
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I think the ideal solution would be if AT&T did it like Verizon. That would be awesome.
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They never will, but this shows that they are willing to compromise, and not just ignore us.
I'm sure that if we keep trying, we may get the cap raised, at the very least for us LTE users, let the 3G users (See: iPhone) stay stuck at 3GB, us LTE users (just need an LTE phone) deserve more.
i streamed netflix to my phone constantly for a whole billing cycle and maxed out at 9 gb and thats the most intensive app on the market. Whoever said they use 20+ gigs a month is a little crazy and i do believe when people use that much it does hurt the other users on the network. and to the guy that said hes streaming stuff at his job...how come if your job is so secure how are you allowed to plop down and stream movies or music? it baffles me how i tested it and maxed out at 9 gigs but some people can get 20+ in one month. That's too much. Also you will find out that if people continue to do that instead of allowing you to keep the unlimited when you sign up for a new contract they wont let you take the unlimited with you. Also i streamed music for 5 hours on pandora and it only hit 150 mb of data so you must be either never sleeping and on your phone 24 hours a day or abusing your unlimited data plan.
By abusing your unlimited plan i mean you tethering it to a computer and downloading large files hmm i think i might be right
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By abusing your unlimited plan i mean you tethering it to a computer and downloading large files hmm i think i might be right
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I'd like to know what you think of a guy like me that has to drive for a living bringing merchandise from big warehouses from across this nation to retailers so you and everyone else can buy what they need on a daily basis, and not only merchandise but groceries for your nearest food store and you come here and judge my high usage, who are you to judge the long and lonely nights i have to be away from my family so that you and everyone else can go to they're nearest grocery store and buy they' re food to put on your table. Next time stop and think before you call someone crazy for using 20+GB or more a month.
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I'd like to know what you think of a guy like me that has to drive for a living bringing merchandise from big warehouses from across this nation to retailers so you and everyone else can buy what they need on a daily basis, and not only merchandise but groceries for your nearest food store and you come here and judge my high usage, who are you to judge the long and lonely nights i have to be away from my family so that you and everyone else can go to they're nearest grocery store and buy they' re food to put on your table. Next time stop and think before you call someone crazy for using 20+GB or more a month.
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I can see how being on the road and constantly using ur phone can get you 20GB of data. Personally I feel AT&T should have a separate special plan for people who are on the road all the time due to work. Thanks for bringing us stuff btw!

AT&T Clarifies Its Policy On Data Throttling, Allows 5GB Of Unaltered Data Flow For L

AT&T Clarifies Its Policy On Data Throttling, Allows 5GB Of Unaltered Data Flow For L
With mobile data usage continuing to skyrocket and the availability of spectrum scarce, AT&T, like other wireless companies, manages its network in the most fair way possible so that we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience for all our customers.
How we’re managing the network only affects a small minority of the heaviest smartphone data users still on unlimited plans. Put another way, this does not impact more than 95 percent of our smartphone customers.
Our unlimited plan customers have told us they want more clarity around how the program works and what they can expect. Here’s what customers need to know:
Customers with a 3G or 4G smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – will see speeds reduced if they use 3GB (gigabytes) of data or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle. For context, less than 5 percent of smartphone customers use more than 3GB per month.
For customers with a 4G LTE smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – data speeds will be reduced if usage is 5GB (gigabytes) or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle
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Customers will get a text message from us before experiencing a change in speed.
Even with reduced data speeds, these customers will still be able to email and surf the web, and continue to use an unlimited amount of data each month.
Not impacted by this program, launched last year, are customers on our tiered data plans.
The reason reduced speeds only apply to unlimited smartphone customers is because their data usage is significantly higher than those on tiered plans. For example, in January, the top 5 percent of our unlimited data plan customers used an average of over 50 percent more data than the top 5 percent of customers on tiered plans.
Because spectrum is limited and data usage continues to soar, we manage our network this way to be as fair as possible and so we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience to everyone.
We encourage all of our customers to use Wi-Fi whenever possible – especially when watching video, which is the most data-intensive activity.
That’s because data activity over Wi-Fi does not count against the threshold for unlimited customers that triggers reduced data speeds or against customers’ tiered data plans. Customers can find out more at www.att.com/datainfo
But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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You're still getting unlimited data. When you signed up, did the contract guarantee you unlimited data at speeds greater than or equal to XXmb/s, or just unlimited data?
Maybe a better way to "CLARIFY" is to change the Plan name from UNlimited to " LIMITED "
That would clear it all up would'nt it?
Geez....ATT you are way too big.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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Lol and how will it change my opinion? Oh well. Like I said, I don't use that much data anyways.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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Evidently... Lol. Still think it's horse****. I might actually think about Verizon... WOW.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
tjy8tim said:
using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
Hmmm.. So what's the default APN on LTE??
I just wanted to throw it out there.. I will probably look this up later myself..
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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Probably when I finished setting it up in iTunes, it sealed the dev. Idk. Whatever. My contract expires next year. ill have this phone for a while, and keep the plan. And then onto the next phone..
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Here's the deal. Less than 5% of AT&T users have unlimited data. They want the unlimited people gone. They are trying to monetize power-users while managing bandwidth (which is a finite resource) to keep the average users happy. If you had a business and had to choose between keeping 5% of your customers happy, or 95% of your customers happy... you would make the same choice. These decisions aren't about the users today... it's about 2015 when the average smartphone user will use alot more data... and there will be more smartphone users.... etc, etc.
Not saying I condone these decisions... but after all they are a business. They have a finite resource (bandwidth) and have to make as much profit as possible with that finite resource. Bandwidth doesn't grow on trees, and neither does money. End of story.

unlimited data, but not. 3.5GB o2 uk (cell net)

Not too pleased about a text saying im using too much data on an unlimited data plan. 3.5GB Used in about 3 week or so isnt tht bad considering todays phone features and my speeds of 1Mb up and down load bandwidth. Any way through or around this fair use policy thing? I want to keep enjoying my new galaxy s3.
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Not too pleased about a text saying im using too much data on an unlimited data plan. 3.5GB Used in about 3 week or so isnt tht bad considering todays phone features and my sppeds if 1MB up and down load bandwidth. Any way through or around this fair use policy thing? I want to keep enjoying my new galaxy s3.
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3.5GB in 3 weeks is top-tier data usage. You'll be able to find language about it in your contract.
As for getting around it. No dice. You signed the contract agreeing to (however they're laid out) the terms which allow them to throttle/cut you off if you're using a lot.
It's possible, too, that your primary data usage location is on a particularly congested section of backhaul, which will cause problems.
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Gutted. Ive seen people talk about sprint... an american network provider i take it... and they dont cap your data use. Is this true and are there any such providers in the uk?
3.5GB in 3 weeks >> omg its damn high n
2.13GB of it is youtube... as you do... then googling and googlemaps/satnav are the other big uses. Ive ate through it realy easy.
Thing is i do use my wifi. 14.3 GB worth in the same time frame. Youtube and online fps.
Unlimited Data does not mean it's completely Unlimited, there is a cap of either 1GB, 3GB, 5GB as such and if you go over that limit they will slow down your speeds. Yes, there is Unlimited Browsing, but that's just for surfing. How you used up 3.5GB in 3 weeks is beyond me and absurd!
Mobile Data browsing is for surfing not be used as a replacement Wifi.
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Unlimited Data does not mean it's completely Unlimited, there is a cap of either 1GB, 3GB, 5GB as such and if you go over that limit they will slow down your speeds. Yes, there is Unlimited Browsing, but that's just for surfing. How you used up 3.5GB in 3 weeks is beyond me and absurd!
Mobile Data browsing is for surfing not be used as a replacement Wifi.
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I youtube alot. 600MB this week. Music, phil de franco, sourcefed, =3 ray willliam jonson, movie trailors. And i have it all in HD or atleast high quality.
I use my wifi when possible. Thts about 13GB in the 3 week.
As you are a heavy user, consider moving to Three when your contract is up. They do all you can eat data packages.
www.three.co.uk/Discover/Phones/Goodbye_data_limits_Hello_Three
This plan has your name written all over it lol
http://www.three.co.uk/Store/Mobile_Phone_Price_Plans
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Wow man! 3 gb in 3 weeks, Next time, buy unlocked then buy a sim card.
1GB a month seems reasonable. Get a life outside your phones screen. There is a whole world out there. I bet you're one of those people who cross the street while texting.
It's easy enough to consume large amounts of data on a monthly basis just because OP has used 3.5gb doesn't mean he hasn't got a life.
I consume loads of data as I stream my music to and from work, Spotify makes up most my data usage. Watch videos at work when on my breaks now and then via YouTube.
Anyway to answer your question, Three provide unlimited data and GiffGaff also. Three are good but depends if signal is good in your area.
If your in a contract then nothing you can do and do not continue to exceed the usage, you'll either get charged for it or lead to a ban.
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1GB a month seems reasonable. Get a life outside your phones screen. There is a whole world out there. I bet you're one of those people who cross the street while texting.
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Lmaoooo
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OP, also, Get a wifi in your house!
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OP, also, Get a wifi in your house!
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He does have wifi see post 5. :good:
Really people are still using the old "use more wifi" bullcrap!?! How about phone companies stop spewing crap about "unlimited data" when its not really. Who are they to tell me that I cant use a service that I pay for as I damn well please.
Why should I need home wifi when Im paying 90 bucks a month for my cell service and I use my phone as its meant to be, a mini convenient replacement for my computer.
Its all about technology and cell providers need to catch up instead of slowing us down.
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Gutted. Ive seen people talk about sprint... an american network provider i take it... and they dont cap your data use. Is this true and are there any such providers in the uk?
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Sprint user here, yeah. 1GB of data was gone in a few days & hell, that was just the phone doing background syncing & photo uploads.
Gotta love unlimited data.
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Really people are still using the old "use more wifi" bullcrap!?! How about phone companies stop spewing crap about "unlimited data" when its not really. Who are they to tell me that I cant use a service that I pay for as I damn well please.
Why should I need home wifi when Im paying 90 bucks a month for my cell service and I use my phone as its meant to be, a mini convenient replacement for my computer.
Its all about technology and cell providers need to catch up instead of slowing us down.
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1GB a month seems reasonable. Get a life outside your phones screen. There is a whole world out there. I bet you're one of those people who cross the street while texting.
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Haha. That is funny. I consistently use upwards of fifteen gigabytes a month. This is with going out with friends everynight, bmxing, designing and writing, and other lifey stuff. Technology is meant to intergrate with your life; not to take you away from it.
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All depends on the tarriff and the language of the contract.
From personal experience, I agree with the others. 3 is probably the best network for you if you honestly don't want danger of throttling / warnings and are prepared to pay the price.
Long story short - due to the ASA bringing in new guidance, people can't say unlimited and then limit you in any volume related way without making that clear in terms and offer description.
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I wasn't even aware o2 offered unlimited data
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