New XDA user. Long time Android fanboy.
Registered to pass along this new article online that was released today. Though I would share for those like myself who are still on the unlimited data plan.
slashgear.com/att-increases-unlimited-data-throttling-threshold-01216421/
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AT&T revealed today that it has made some adjustments to its data throttling policy for customers still subscribed to legacy unlimited data plans. Customers on these unlimited data plans will now have a higher data cap before throttling kicks in. For those on HSPA+ plans the cap will be 3GB per month, while the cap for LTE customers will be 5GB.
AT&T’s unlimited data throttling policy was instituted back in October of the last year, but the company never did reveal in detail what the data cap would be for throttling, merely stating that only its top 5 percent of heaviest data users would be affected. Early last month, the company came under fire when some customers discovered that their unlimited data plans were being throttled after reaching only 2GB of data use, despite the plans costing the same as a current tiered 3GB plan.
It looks like enough pressure was applied that AT&T is now responding by raising the data cap and being more transparent about exactly where those thresholds sit. The caps are now 3GB for HSPA+ subscribers and 5GB for LTE subscribers, which is certainly a welcome boost up from the 2GB cap that appeared to be in force regardless of whether a customer was on an HSPA+ or LTE unlimited data plan. Users can check their monthly data usage by dialing “*data#” on their mobile phones.
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well this will suck for users like me, who every month use about 20-40GB
latinohot said:
well this will suck for users like me, who every month use about 20-40GB
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Wow, that's a lot of data! I use around 10Gb average, and I'm pissed about being limited to 5Gb. In fact, last month was the first month I have ever been throttled. That's far from "Unlimited". And don't give me that BS that "they don't promise unlimited speeds". At 0.14Mbps I can't get one damn song to buffer on Google Music. It's freaking terrible! Google maps is near impossible to use. They might as well turn our data off at those piss poor speeds!
I just hope we can get at least one dev to come up with a solution so we can stick it to AT&T!
Damn 10gb.
I hit my max of 3gb last month. That was mostly google music streaming, FB, EAS mail, web, and RDP connections.
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Wow, that's a lot of data! I use around 10Gb average, and I'm pissed about being limited to 5Gb. In fact, last month was the first month I have ever been throttled. That's far from "Unlimited". And don't give me that BS that "they don't promise unlimited speeds". At 0.14Mbps I can't get one damn song to buffer on Google Music. It's freaking terrible! Google maps is near impossible to use. They might as well turn our data off at those piss poor speeds!
I just hope we can get at least one dev to come up with a solution so we can stick it to AT&T!
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Goto sprint Jesus I dealt with that everyday with them so please quit complaining and enjoy what you have you pay less than me for the same amount of data
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Aww....After seeing the successful lawsuit against Att this month,I purposely stepped up my data usage in hopes of getting throttled.
Oh well at least they are relaxing their sheisty practices.
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Bender B. Rodgriguez said:
Aww....After seeing the successful lawsuit against Att this month,I purposely stepped up my data usage in hopes of getting throttled.
Oh well at least they are relaxing their sheisty practices.
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THey throttled me last month without notification. Took a level 3 tiered Engineer to tell me they had a glitch in the system with unlimited data users. I said BS and they gave me my last months data charges refunded. It was just a matter of time before ATT got tired of taking heat for this hot topic.
Canceled my unlimited data plan two weeks ago to change to the 3GB tiered plan, because they were throttling me at 2GB. This "update" to the unlimited plan makes me furious!
att made a webpage on their site explaining this
http://www.att.com/esupport/datausage.jsp
If you guys are using 10GB+ .... You must not have Internet at home?? I have a 30Mbps down and 3Mbps up at home and I run 24/7 server, yet I achieve 500-800GB....
WOW , some smartphone users amaze me; must be sittin on da toilet using that bandwidth!
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If you guys are using 10GB+ .... You must not have Internet at home?? I have a 30Mbps down and 3Mbps up at home and I run 24/7 server, yet I achieve 500-800GB....
WOW , some smartphone users amaze me; must be sittin on da toilet using that bandwidth!
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Some of these users that you are disparaging do have jobs that require them to leave their homes (for days sometimes). Some of them are drivers and are on the road most of their time. Some work in jobs that have closed networks.
It would be nice if everyone was living on welfare or disability checks, sitting at home achieving those 800 gig a month stats.
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Some of these users that you are disparaging do have jobs that require them to leave their homes (for days sometimes). Some of them are drivers and are on the road most of their time. Some work in jobs that have closed networks.
It would be nice if everyone was living on welfare or disability checks, sitting at home achieving those 800 gig a month stats.
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Eh, I don't think he was really being malicious with what he wrote. To me it came across as more in awe that people are able to use that much data on a phone.
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Tru, but if they're in the road working, ur telling me that 10+ gigs is only emails and work communiques? I think not lol
The reason I use around 10Gb a month is that I can't use wifi at my job because we are hard wired due to the work we do (very secure), so I stream a lot at my job. Also, my gym doesn't have wifi and I work out 4-5 days a week (@ a minimum 2 hours each time) so I'm usually streaming music via Google music there. It's easy for me to chew through data, but I just don't have access to wifi very often.
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Tru, but if they're in the road working, ur telling me that 10+ gigs is only emails and work communiques? I think not lol
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Ofcourse not, my high usage has always been because if i have an unlimited datat plan i will use it. I use it to stream while on the road, which i am on 4 days a week and sometimes more.
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Ofcourse not, my high usage has always been because if i have an unlimited datat plan i will use it. I use it to stream while on the road, which i am on 4 days a week and sometimes more.
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I think the ideal solution would be if AT&T did it like Verizon. That would be awesome.
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I think the ideal solution would be if AT&T did it like Verizon. That would be awesome.
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They never will, but this shows that they are willing to compromise, and not just ignore us.
I'm sure that if we keep trying, we may get the cap raised, at the very least for us LTE users, let the 3G users (See: iPhone) stay stuck at 3GB, us LTE users (just need an LTE phone) deserve more.
i streamed netflix to my phone constantly for a whole billing cycle and maxed out at 9 gb and thats the most intensive app on the market. Whoever said they use 20+ gigs a month is a little crazy and i do believe when people use that much it does hurt the other users on the network. and to the guy that said hes streaming stuff at his job...how come if your job is so secure how are you allowed to plop down and stream movies or music? it baffles me how i tested it and maxed out at 9 gigs but some people can get 20+ in one month. That's too much. Also you will find out that if people continue to do that instead of allowing you to keep the unlimited when you sign up for a new contract they wont let you take the unlimited with you. Also i streamed music for 5 hours on pandora and it only hit 150 mb of data so you must be either never sleeping and on your phone 24 hours a day or abusing your unlimited data plan.
By abusing your unlimited plan i mean you tethering it to a computer and downloading large files hmm i think i might be right
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By abusing your unlimited plan i mean you tethering it to a computer and downloading large files hmm i think i might be right
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I'd like to know what you think of a guy like me that has to drive for a living bringing merchandise from big warehouses from across this nation to retailers so you and everyone else can buy what they need on a daily basis, and not only merchandise but groceries for your nearest food store and you come here and judge my high usage, who are you to judge the long and lonely nights i have to be away from my family so that you and everyone else can go to they're nearest grocery store and buy they' re food to put on your table. Next time stop and think before you call someone crazy for using 20+GB or more a month.
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I'd like to know what you think of a guy like me that has to drive for a living bringing merchandise from big warehouses from across this nation to retailers so you and everyone else can buy what they need on a daily basis, and not only merchandise but groceries for your nearest food store and you come here and judge my high usage, who are you to judge the long and lonely nights i have to be away from my family so that you and everyone else can go to they're nearest grocery store and buy they' re food to put on your table. Next time stop and think before you call someone crazy for using 20+GB or more a month.
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I can see how being on the road and constantly using ur phone can get you 20GB of data. Personally I feel AT&T should have a separate special plan for people who are on the road all the time due to work. Thanks for bringing us stuff btw!
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So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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francous said:
So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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To add to this question: If it were to come back, would it cost more? That will be BS if it does! What sly corporation skills for taking away something people like, and then giving it back for a higher cost. D:
HERE ya go
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HERE ya go
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Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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francous said:
Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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lol, I feel ya. Sort of...I have the unlimited plan
But you'd be surprise how many people don't even come close to the 2gb plan. I use the tethering moderately and stream pandora quite a bit, and there's only been a handful of times that I went over the 2gb mark. I'd say for the majority the 2gb is enough, plus they are offering another extra 2gb. I just don't like how they are charging extra for the tethering.
I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
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Same here - never reachd 2gb... but I need it for peace of mind. I don't have even check what I've used on my phone. I have to worry constantly about my wife and daughter going over their limits. In fact, my wife accidently went over her 200mb limit by using DroidTV and not having it set for "Wifi Only", coupled with her WIFI settings still at the default setting of "Turn off WIFI when screen goes off" instead of "Never". Even if she was set at 2gb I could see an accident like this happening and costing extra money.
AT&T claims that they notify you when you reach 60%, 90% and 100% of your limit. This is bullsh*t. They don't. First, data use reporting is about 12 hours behind. You can blow your cap by quite a bit in 12 hours. Next, when she went over 200, they sold her another 200 for $15 without any text. I believe this can happen up to 5 times ($90 for 1.2gb). 12 hours later she got a text and I got an email saying she was nearing her limit - but the limit she was nearing was 400mb (the second set of 200mb). We were never informed as she blasted right past the first 200mb. Thank goodness she only had a couple movies set to download. If she had a series recording it would have cost a fortune.
I want to set a hard limit and then have data shut off at that point. Don't sell me extra data automatically. Maybe for technical reasons, they don't know for 12 hours... so they once they find out turn off my data and don't charge me for the overage. Until they can and will do this, I don't think they should be selling limited data plans. Until they can send you warnings in a timely manner, they shouldn't be selling limited data plans.
To AT&T's credit, I was able to retroactively change her data plan to the 2gb plan back to the beginning of my billing cycle - so the mistake cost me $10. Now out of piece of mind I will probably have to keep her at the 2gb plan even though in the past she's never even come close to the 200mb.
RE: Verizon "unlimited"... I can understand temporarily throttling back a heavy user maybe for few hours or days, but not for the rest of the billing cycle and definately not for the next billing cycle. Can you imagine you make one mistake like my wife did and have your speed crippled for up to 2 months? How can they even legally cripple service for a future billing period?
This is important for us to follow because AT&T is probably watching this approach closely and will eventually adopt it for us as well.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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5% is a huge number of customers - probably a lot of them being business customers. Once enough people get throttled back Verizon may have to rethink this approach. Consider what Comcast did. They went from unlimited to 250gb. That's a very reasonable limit that certainly doesn't catch 5% of their internet customers. Of course as time goes by they will have to adjust that 250 up or they will start catching more and more customers.
I don't think they've defined what they consider heavy users yet. It must be pretty low to include 5% of data users.
An even better option would be data buckets, where your unused data rollsover. I've gone near the 200mb cap quite a few times since the default settings cleverly turn off wifi when the phone sleeps :rollseyes:
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"Demographic Research" is why we have the 2gb plan in the first place.
That's why I believe the unlimited plan will be eventually phased out also. Yea, their offering the unlimited plan again, but to me that's mostly PR to get more customers because cases like this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/verizon-breaks-first-day-sales-record-with-iphone-4-pre-orders/ I don't really know how truthful that is, since corporate tend to inflate stats for the press.
But competition is good for the consumers, as long as both these billion dollar companies are in high competition, it should be easier on the wallet for us. Hoping...but still believe they are ripping us off as consumers (and I will keep the reasons why to myself, I've seen what it did to the other threads )
These are all opinions, and I take your posts as opinions. So...can we keep this civil. The other threads I've seen regarding this subject matter tend to get heated, which I do avoid (I have enough drama in my life
I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I don't think the limited plan is a bad idea, but I do see the amount going up and up. Since mobile internet access will exceed home internet access in the future, in my opinion. Which in turn costing us more and more.
As richb500 said, it is important to follow this and see what AT$T does.
When I was following the Fuze/Tilt2 forums it was pointed out that the is no true unlimited plan. The plan is called unlimited but in the TOS it states that over 5G of data transfered ATT can terminate your service.
All carriers have that clause in their respective TOS.
I have the old unlimited plan and have gone ovef 5G once but repeated go over 4G and never got any warning messages about my use.
Just a word of caution.
Sprint seems to be very loose with enforcement. A co-worker has an EVO and uses upwards of 20G a month using it has a hotspot and has never been warned about abusive use which is again in the Sprint TOS.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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shouldn't have to terminate it.
if they weren't greedy and shortsighted they could get most to move over voluntarily with the right incentives.
For Example - Anyone with unlimited who is willing to Renew a new 2 year contract on their voice and take a capped data plan gets to choose any At&t Phone @ no cost with the upgrade. Couple this with informing users that stay on the unlimited they will face throttling if it is abused....(soft cap of 5 or 6 gb).
75% or more would likely take advantage if they could get the latest phone for free (iphone, atrix, whatever else comes down the pike).
Couple it with a marketing campaign to the effect of TETHER AWAY. No charges for tether as we respect your right to use the full potential of your phone. Give 250mb data free to all smartphone users. Offer 2gb @ $25 and 4GB @ 45$ (same as tether pricing but removes the stigma and bad taste of being charged for something that costs them nothing and is a native capability of the OS/Device). Keep the $10 overage charge per every GB of data over the cap.
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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francous said:
Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
Good for us consumers, but anyone that is like me that uses 1GB a day with ease "when you are at work with nothing better to do then surf the net, and watch movies" it becomes a problem, lucky I have unlimited data though and I don't see why they don't sell it to more customers because most who have it don't use nearly that much so its extra money in the pocket
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
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The unlimited data plan offering is not official, and I don't think customer service will know anything until Verizon iphone official launch date. What I've been reading (ex.) http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/at-t-quietly-matching-vzws-unlimited-data-plan-for-iphone/9317
But this is only a business move, in my opinion, since there are certain criteria you must meet to get back the unlimited plan.
And for your question: No you can't lie about not having a smartphone, when actually you are using a smartphone, they will know.
2.5 weeks into my month i get texted that phone basically just became worse than my BB speeds because i use my phone too much. Anyone else enjoying the awesome speeds of .06mbs with me?
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i am still 2 weeks in but speed is still 6-9 mbps
but as i read somewhere , t mobile slows down your speed when you reach 2.5 gb
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i am still 2 weeks in but speed is still 6-9 mbps
but as i read somewhere , t mobile slows down your speed when you reach 2.5 gb
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You are getting EDGE like me. TMO throttles after 5GB until next bill cycle. But then, We are on the "LARGEST 4G Network" arn't We?
nwpro3 said:
We are on the "LARGEST 4G Network" arn't We?
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Yup, increase coverage and speeds, lower the data cap in half, and use up your data in half the time! I think if I did the math right, I can cap out 5gigs in about 9hours of watching netflix via my playon app alone; which is about 20min a day for a given 30 day month. They should of kept the 10gig at least, considering EVERYTHING this phone does practically uses the internet.
Wow, I didn't know they did that. I thought I used mine a lot, but I just checked and I only use about 500-600 MB a month, lol
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2.5 weeks into my month i get texted that phone basically just became worse than my BB speeds because i use my phone too much. Anyone else enjoying the awesome speeds of .06mbs with me?
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Me, i sure am enjoying 0.04mbs. Took me one week to reach my limit too. I cant wait til the next cycle, this is just terrible.
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Me, i sure am enjoying 0.04mbs. Took me one week to reach my limit too. I cant wait til the next cycle, this is just terrible.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans.aspx?catgroup=mobilebroadband
Do you guys have the unlimited plan? Mine says I have unlimited remaining so I really hope they don't throttle it after 5gb, since I use a TON of internet.
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Do you guys have the unlimited plan? Mine says I have unlimited remaining so I really hope they don't throttle it after 5gb, since I use a TON of internet.
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Yup we are on unlimited.
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Yep, my wife and I have both been throttled and have unlimited. I hate TMO and can't wait to go to Sprint for real unlimited.
I never get close to this.. dont you have real internet, like 99.9% of the world, I believe even remote parts of Africa have internet.. you really dont need to tether your phone for everything.
wow wtf are you guys doing with your phones? tethering to your PC and broadcasting 1080p video on ustream?? My next billing cycle starts in 5 days and I've only used 250mb (I'm in a 4G area). I use my data A LOT too - youtube, surfing the web, market downloads, facebook, twitter, etc. I use an app called Line2 for my incoming/outgoing calls and text msgs which relys on my data and I still don't get close to 1GB.
I will tell you how I consume 5GB quickly.
I am an independent IT consultant where my clients don't allow access to their network with my machine. Therefore, I am tethered 12hrs every business day. Syncing a 3gb IMAP mailbox all day is a lot of data alone!
I consume 1GB every 3 working days.
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beto241 said:
I will tell you how I consume 5GB quickly.
I am an independent IT consultant where my clients don't allow access to their network with my machine. Therefore, I am tethered 12hrs every business day. Syncing a 3gb IMAP mailbox all day is a lot of data alone!
I consume 1GB every 3 working days.
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Then you should have the common sense to have a better internet solution than tethering.
I've never run into the data cap, not because I don't use my data, but because I'm actually wise about it and don't carelessly burn bandwidth. Use Wifi when available, don't try to consume as much data as you can.
How many of these threads do we need about how the OP didn't bother to check usage or ***** about data throttling?
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wazzukirk said:
Yep, my wife and I have both been throttled and have unlimited. I hate TMO and can't wait to go to Sprint for real unlimited.
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buh bye now
Hey, we have no data limits at sprint..
Except you'll be lucky to see more than 300 kbps in most areas during the day with 3g, and ~2-5 Mbps on 4g. We have people in the evo forum *****ing about the extremely slow network, ready to jump ship to vz or elsewhere.
I've come to the conclusion there is no ideal solution. Each provider is a compromise of different elements such as price, service, data, features, etc.
Common Sense? I was answering a question as to how one can get the to 5gb limit, period.
Common sense says Tmobile should have told me about the 5gb threshold when I agreed to a contract, and fine print is not acceptable.
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Common Sense? I was answering a question as to how one can get the to 5gb limit, period.
Common sense says Tmobile should have told me about the 5gb threshold when I agreed to a contract, and fine print is not acceptable.
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Common Sense? You are expecting a Corporation sales person to be honest with you? They are interested in one thing and that is selling a product. They don't care if you get screwed in the end. They will just take your $200 ETF when you find out how much they lied to you... Well didn't disclose the TRUTH to you and you move on to the next corporation that does it to you in another way. That's what business has come to in America.
A warning would have been nice around 4gigs. TBH, if you say you use the web all the time and only have 4-500megs usage your lying. My biggest data drain went into streaming TV and music from my home server. I was unaware t-mobile even had a limit until i got the message saying I was cut off, because when i had my BB i would usually only average about 20megs a month usage. Hell, I ALMOST went with a 200meg connection, but didn't want to feel restricted so I went with unlimited.
These phones are beast, as they should be with a 4+meg connection! It just doesn't seem fair to offer us all these gadgets and offer us their TV packages and crap then take it away just barely into the month because we actually use what they advertised to sell the product!
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I've only used 250mb-----market downloads
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On average my apps have been between 2-3megs each...
So at ~87 custom apps, that I have actually kept and not just downloaded to try, at 2.5megs each that's 217.5megs; a total which almost meets your usage so far alone.
Well, I'm in my first month with TMO and already got my 5GB notice. Isn't it nice. I get a ripping 20 KB/SEC on my best download but, usually around 10 to 12KB/SEC on AMERICAS LARGEST 4G NETWORK. That happened right in the middle of a SW update and their CRAPPY network could not even handle a text message and the download at the same time. They cut me down to 5KB/SEC and it took close to 2 hrs to DL 50MB. What a deal they are giving us. The big problem is the only company that I have ever been happy with is no longer doing business in my area. Lots to look forward to.
AT&T Clarifies Its Policy On Data Throttling, Allows 5GB Of Unaltered Data Flow For L
With mobile data usage continuing to skyrocket and the availability of spectrum scarce, AT&T, like other wireless companies, manages its network in the most fair way possible so that we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience for all our customers.
How we’re managing the network only affects a small minority of the heaviest smartphone data users still on unlimited plans. Put another way, this does not impact more than 95 percent of our smartphone customers.
Our unlimited plan customers have told us they want more clarity around how the program works and what they can expect. Here’s what customers need to know:
Customers with a 3G or 4G smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – will see speeds reduced if they use 3GB (gigabytes) of data or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle. For context, less than 5 percent of smartphone customers use more than 3GB per month.
For customers with a 4G LTE smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – data speeds will be reduced if usage is 5GB (gigabytes) or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle
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Customers will get a text message from us before experiencing a change in speed.
Even with reduced data speeds, these customers will still be able to email and surf the web, and continue to use an unlimited amount of data each month.
Not impacted by this program, launched last year, are customers on our tiered data plans.
The reason reduced speeds only apply to unlimited smartphone customers is because their data usage is significantly higher than those on tiered plans. For example, in January, the top 5 percent of our unlimited data plan customers used an average of over 50 percent more data than the top 5 percent of customers on tiered plans.
Because spectrum is limited and data usage continues to soar, we manage our network this way to be as fair as possible and so we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience to everyone.
We encourage all of our customers to use Wi-Fi whenever possible – especially when watching video, which is the most data-intensive activity.
That’s because data activity over Wi-Fi does not count against the threshold for unlimited customers that triggers reduced data speeds or against customers’ tiered data plans. Customers can find out more at www.att.com/datainfo
But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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You're still getting unlimited data. When you signed up, did the contract guarantee you unlimited data at speeds greater than or equal to XXmb/s, or just unlimited data?
Maybe a better way to "CLARIFY" is to change the Plan name from UNlimited to " LIMITED "
That would clear it all up would'nt it?
Geez....ATT you are way too big.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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Lol and how will it change my opinion? Oh well. Like I said, I don't use that much data anyways.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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Evidently... Lol. Still think it's horse****. I might actually think about Verizon... WOW.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
Hmmm.. So what's the default APN on LTE??
I just wanted to throw it out there.. I will probably look this up later myself..
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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Probably when I finished setting it up in iTunes, it sealed the dev. Idk. Whatever. My contract expires next year. ill have this phone for a while, and keep the plan. And then onto the next phone..
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Here's the deal. Less than 5% of AT&T users have unlimited data. They want the unlimited people gone. They are trying to monetize power-users while managing bandwidth (which is a finite resource) to keep the average users happy. If you had a business and had to choose between keeping 5% of your customers happy, or 95% of your customers happy... you would make the same choice. These decisions aren't about the users today... it's about 2015 when the average smartphone user will use alot more data... and there will be more smartphone users.... etc, etc.
Not saying I condone these decisions... but after all they are a business. They have a finite resource (bandwidth) and have to make as much profit as possible with that finite resource. Bandwidth doesn't grow on trees, and neither does money. End of story.
Not too pleased about a text saying im using too much data on an unlimited data plan. 3.5GB Used in about 3 week or so isnt tht bad considering todays phone features and my speeds of 1Mb up and down load bandwidth. Any way through or around this fair use policy thing? I want to keep enjoying my new galaxy s3.
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Not too pleased about a text saying im using too much data on an unlimited data plan. 3.5GB Used in about 3 week or so isnt tht bad considering todays phone features and my sppeds if 1MB up and down load bandwidth. Any way through or around this fair use policy thing? I want to keep enjoying my new galaxy s3.
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3.5GB in 3 weeks is top-tier data usage. You'll be able to find language about it in your contract.
As for getting around it. No dice. You signed the contract agreeing to (however they're laid out) the terms which allow them to throttle/cut you off if you're using a lot.
It's possible, too, that your primary data usage location is on a particularly congested section of backhaul, which will cause problems.
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Gutted. Ive seen people talk about sprint... an american network provider i take it... and they dont cap your data use. Is this true and are there any such providers in the uk?
3.5GB in 3 weeks >> omg its damn high n
2.13GB of it is youtube... as you do... then googling and googlemaps/satnav are the other big uses. Ive ate through it realy easy.
Thing is i do use my wifi. 14.3 GB worth in the same time frame. Youtube and online fps.
Unlimited Data does not mean it's completely Unlimited, there is a cap of either 1GB, 3GB, 5GB as such and if you go over that limit they will slow down your speeds. Yes, there is Unlimited Browsing, but that's just for surfing. How you used up 3.5GB in 3 weeks is beyond me and absurd!
Mobile Data browsing is for surfing not be used as a replacement Wifi.
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Unlimited Data does not mean it's completely Unlimited, there is a cap of either 1GB, 3GB, 5GB as such and if you go over that limit they will slow down your speeds. Yes, there is Unlimited Browsing, but that's just for surfing. How you used up 3.5GB in 3 weeks is beyond me and absurd!
Mobile Data browsing is for surfing not be used as a replacement Wifi.
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I youtube alot. 600MB this week. Music, phil de franco, sourcefed, =3 ray willliam jonson, movie trailors. And i have it all in HD or atleast high quality.
I use my wifi when possible. Thts about 13GB in the 3 week.
As you are a heavy user, consider moving to Three when your contract is up. They do all you can eat data packages.
www.three.co.uk/Discover/Phones/Goodbye_data_limits_Hello_Three
This plan has your name written all over it lol
http://www.three.co.uk/Store/Mobile_Phone_Price_Plans
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Julie
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Wow man! 3 gb in 3 weeks, Next time, buy unlocked then buy a sim card.
1GB a month seems reasonable. Get a life outside your phones screen. There is a whole world out there. I bet you're one of those people who cross the street while texting.
It's easy enough to consume large amounts of data on a monthly basis just because OP has used 3.5gb doesn't mean he hasn't got a life.
I consume loads of data as I stream my music to and from work, Spotify makes up most my data usage. Watch videos at work when on my breaks now and then via YouTube.
Anyway to answer your question, Three provide unlimited data and GiffGaff also. Three are good but depends if signal is good in your area.
If your in a contract then nothing you can do and do not continue to exceed the usage, you'll either get charged for it or lead to a ban.
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1GB a month seems reasonable. Get a life outside your phones screen. There is a whole world out there. I bet you're one of those people who cross the street while texting.
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Lmaoooo
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OP, also, Get a wifi in your house!
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OP, also, Get a wifi in your house!
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He does have wifi see post 5. :good:
Really people are still using the old "use more wifi" bullcrap!?! How about phone companies stop spewing crap about "unlimited data" when its not really. Who are they to tell me that I cant use a service that I pay for as I damn well please.
Why should I need home wifi when Im paying 90 bucks a month for my cell service and I use my phone as its meant to be, a mini convenient replacement for my computer.
Its all about technology and cell providers need to catch up instead of slowing us down.
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Gutted. Ive seen people talk about sprint... an american network provider i take it... and they dont cap your data use. Is this true and are there any such providers in the uk?
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Sprint user here, yeah. 1GB of data was gone in a few days & hell, that was just the phone doing background syncing & photo uploads.
Gotta love unlimited data.
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Really people are still using the old "use more wifi" bullcrap!?! How about phone companies stop spewing crap about "unlimited data" when its not really. Who are they to tell me that I cant use a service that I pay for as I damn well please.
Why should I need home wifi when Im paying 90 bucks a month for my cell service and I use my phone as its meant to be, a mini convenient replacement for my computer.
Its all about technology and cell providers need to catch up instead of slowing us down.
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1GB a month seems reasonable. Get a life outside your phones screen. There is a whole world out there. I bet you're one of those people who cross the street while texting.
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Haha. That is funny. I consistently use upwards of fifteen gigabytes a month. This is with going out with friends everynight, bmxing, designing and writing, and other lifey stuff. Technology is meant to intergrate with your life; not to take you away from it.
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All depends on the tarriff and the language of the contract.
From personal experience, I agree with the others. 3 is probably the best network for you if you honestly don't want danger of throttling / warnings and are prepared to pay the price.
Long story short - due to the ASA bringing in new guidance, people can't say unlimited and then limit you in any volume related way without making that clear in terms and offer description.
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I wasn't even aware o2 offered unlimited data
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I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I'm on virgin in canada and last month i used 42gb on my unlimited plan...
no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
I'm only at about 1g use right now, work and home wifi (poor signal area) has been keeping my mobile data use down since I got this phone. I'll probably use about 3gigs next month though. Btw, I can see this thread creating some tension with those who don't have unlimited.
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no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
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They did the same here. I called them up and they switched me back no problem.
And the purpose of the thread is to.......??????
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Purpose of this thread....Help show why Verizon did away with unlimited data?
No wonder why they are eliminating unlimited, what the heck do you do on your phone to use 28Gb? (tethering i assume)
haha nice. last semester in college, my wired connection wasn't working so i had to 'illegally' tether my atrixs' hspa+ for a week. used about 15gb in a week to watch live streams of the us open. thank god for unlimited data
with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Not too bad methinks..
I have to laugh at all the people who say a few of us who use high amounts of data is why a carrier will remove unlimited data for everyone. So they feel bitter at us for ruining it for everyone else and would rather blame us than their service provider, since its easier.
Oh please, don't you think these carriers would have just throttled or kicked off us few users, instead of forcing tiered plans on all their customers? Its all because of further maximizing profit, not because of us.
Doesn't bother me at all, I still have unlimited data just can't see how people are able to use that much data on a phone in a month.
Must have to have the phone plugged in all the time.
Most I have ever been able to do is 13 GB. I really had to try for that though.
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with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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lol yes i believe i do. luckily i elected to buy the version of the galaxy s 3 that gets preference over others on the data network so sorry i guess everyone will have to wait for me to finish my download before its their turn. best decision i ever made, and to think i actually almost bought the gs3 that you have that gives the busy signal when others are using the network. man im glad i dodged that bullet haha
all sarcasm aside, has anyone ever actually had a problem with using verizons network that can be attributed to data hogs? this isnt 2007 and im not in att using an iphone. big deal, i use a lot of data that i pay for so what. any other user on verizon canuse the exact same amoutn of data as i choose to use bc verizon doesnt throttle the 4g speeds, youll just have to pay more than my price for it. dont hate those of us lucky enough to use all the data we want without paying any overage unless you also go around hating every verizon employee for getting a company discount on the same sevice you pay for. also, those of us on verizon who no longer have the unlimited data plan have access to a discount on upgrades that the unlimited users dont have the smae access to but we sure dont go around flaming others for only having to pay $199 for our $599 phones. every thing is a trade off
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Ignore the disabled data. That was coming from my Samsung Galaxy S II. The one not discontinued is from July 5th till now.
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Yay for forced data limits/throttle in the future. Vzw doesn't guarantee any "grandfathering". It says right in the contract they can change terms on you and it gives you a free out to go to other carriers. The whole –look at what I can do is quite childish. Whatever.
Heck I use 30gb at home on Cox between two computers and a ps3 and pay for 50gb
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A guy over on the Rezound forums hit 1TB. I'm sitting at about 9GB this month.
And for the people bleating about this being why they did away with unlimited data--no. Just shut up. They did it out of pure greed. LTE is cheap, and for every person using 30gb there's 10 people using 500mb. Verizon might be losing money on some customers, but in the aggregate, they were still making money hand over fist, even with unlimited data. But they can make more with shared/tiered. Guess which they went with?
I'm normally around wifi except when I go workout so I rarely break 2gb. Even so I have no problems with data hogs. I've worked a number of years at an isp and I can tell you data hogs are not the problem unless if the network engineers are total idiots. A properly managed network will prevent heavy users from bogging down the network during peak usage.
But many of you guys buy right into the carrier's manufactured bandwidth crisis so they can justify charging $15 per gb.
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