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I have done custom ROMS on my old HTC TP2 so I kind of get it, but what do you gain by rooting your G2X? Right now I have a stock G2X thar is unlocked. I'm sure you can install new ROMS after being rooted, but does the good outweigh the bad. What I am trying to say is yes I agree that a stock phone has some bugs, but overall it works and does what it is supposed to. But rooting? I see post after post on this forum of bugs after bugs and questions after questions about something not working after rooting. So far it seems like a hassle and a whole world of endless misery. I gotta say that I am impressed how you create new roms to work on our phone, but how about a 1 button fix that does everything from rooting to installing a new ROM without the bugs so us newbs don't have to ask a million questions and download endless Apps to make it work correctly. Another words I'm not sold on the idea unless I'm missing something. On my HTC TP2 I had no choice but to enter into the realm of no return because the phone was a snail POS to begin with. So now I ask, what can I expect, I mean the phone stock is pretty good?
I guess if you're not willing to learn some stuff and get your hands dirty, then maybe rooting this phone isn't for you. There's no "one-click-and-done" for this device.
It has staggering potential if you are willing to learn rooting & modding. There are some really great roms available that make this phone more functional, fun, and pretty.
I got some experience rooting when a friend of mine asked if I could turn his nook color into an Android tablet. I learned more doing that than I did in 4 years of high school.
Rooting & modding isn't for everybody. If you think your G2x is fine the way it is, then leave it alone.
wireless tethering
You don't need root to install custom roms. Just install nvflash.
rooting allows the use of some good custom apps. Titanium backup for example. Paid version allows one click to restore all apps.
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Beekersguy said:
I guess if you're not willing to learn some stuff and get your hands dirty, then maybe rooting this phone isn't for you. There's no "one-click-and-done" for this device.
It has staggering potential if you are willing to learn rooting & modding. There are some really great roms available that make this phone more functional, fun, and pretty.
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What do you mean more "functional"?
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wireless tethering
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If what you mean by "wireless tethering", you mean using your phone as a wireless router, than I don't understand because I can do that now without being rooted. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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You don't need root to install custom roms. Just install nvflash.
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I am really interested in hearing more about this. Where can I get nvflash? Is this something that will screw up my phone if I don't do it right? So after installing nvflash, I can just flash any ROM, just like that?
Plain and simple. If you want to be able to control every aspect of your phone: root. If your happy the way things are. Keep things the way they are.
AdFree. That is all the reason you need. And before I get flamed, I buy paid versions of apps I use, but on the ones paid isn't available, I block the ads. Can't stand them.
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AdFree. That is all the reason you need. And before I get flamed, I buy paid versions of apps I use, but on the ones paid isn't available, I block the ads. Can't stand them.
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True, number one reason to root. I decided to root because of that lol.
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Look at it this way.
With root, you are the phone's God.
Without root, you are the phone's *****.
Plain and simple.
Winning!
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
I used super one click to root and flashed cwm through rom Manager found it easy and straight forward. After that pic a rom and flash away. Welcome to the skyrocket
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What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Don't put the cart before the horse re: rooting your phone. Just because you can doesn't always make it a good idea. But, read the sticky posts at the top of each sub-forum. Don't root until you really come up against a compelling reason to do so (I wasn't planning on rooting this phone until I decided to say to hell with AT&T's tethering manager). And if you do, read, and reread, then read again the steps on rooting and try to grok what's happening (at least on the surface).
Don't be too eager to flash any old ROM that someone tosses up on XDA. Many create more problems than they puport to fix. Don't be too concerned with overclocking your CPU. These phones have fast dualcore processors that can chew through all the bloatware the carrier puts on with no problem. Overclocking can shorten battery and device life and cause weird assorted issues. Don't get hung up on benchmark scores trying to eke out a little extra just because someone else's bar graph is bigger.
At any rate, I'll keep the stock ROM until an ICS ROM becomes available for the Skyrocket. I'll take either Samsung's or Cyanogen's, whichever comes first.
Anyway, read the sticky threads, don't root unless you know why you want to root, avoid flashing strange ROMs, and don't get hung up on benchmark scores if your device is performing fine otherwise. Oh, and have fun!
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What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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It's part of it as long as you want to keep your apps. I find that restoring apps from backup on a new ROM can be the source of many issues that otherwise wouldn't be present if you simply wiped and flashed fresh. It's certainly a bit of a pain to reinstall apps, though.
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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I would reccomend just using the stock rom for now theres is x100 more you can do with andriord as you will soon see. I honestley had the skyrocket for about a month before i rooted. Some apps i reccomend that dont need a root,
Atorrent - downloads torrent files directly onto your phone
tubex- downloads youtub videos right on your phone those are my 2 fav non rooted apps
Ill find the links for u. But i installed cmw recovery via odin. Then i did a nandroid backup. The reason for that is so i have a backup without root. Then root The
Phone.
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The first thing I did was root it and then put a rom on it. But that's just me it all depends on what you want. Its not a bad idea to familiarize yourself with the android experience first before you go ahead and get into the fun stuff.
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my suggestion to any new Android want to be Root user....
read read read read read.....read everything, even read post from other device forums. Google and read, youtube and watch.
put it all together in your head, on paper, on a spreadsheet whatever works for you....and educate yourself Before you Root and Rom.
Also remember, everything you do to your phone is your responsibility, not anyone on xda or anywhere else.
Best way to avoid problems, read and learn before you attempt.
My first Root and Rom I had read for weeks before I even looked at my phone funny.
And it's good to ask questions, just try and find an answer before you ask, most of the time it has been asked and answered already. If not here then on sites like RootzWiki or Droid Forums....just use Google.
Good luck! and welcome to Android and xda
Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
Dont even worry... it all gets better. We got a great helpful community and amazing devs. And if your scared of bricking, we got ODIN which can fix "almost" any problems
I am in an eerily similar situation. iPhone 2g --> iPhone 3g --> iPhone 3gs all since 2007-2008. Finally got an android phone and went with the Skyrocket. I have always been a techy, but, aside from a modded HP touchpad, have very limited experience with Android.
I rooted my phone after about two weeks. I read SO FREAKING MUCH about options, bricking potential, this still flash counter thing that att/samsung do, etc. I even have a buddy that has been an android fanboy since day one (computer science major).
I mainly wanted to root so that I could a) enable wifi tethering b) freeze bloatware (NOT uninstall), c) download apps from AARRRGGG locations and d) to simply learn how
I am personally waiting until ICS comes out before I try any custom roms. Until then, just learning everything I can.
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
Side note/Threadjack: one thing I am trying to find out is if ALL SGSII USB Jigs work with the SGSII Skyrocket. About to buy one just to have onhand...just incase, haha.
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Believe me, you want to root, it really does open up much more customization, like custom ROM's, and more.
hooha23 said:
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
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Pirates my friend. Pirates. LOLS.
As for rooting and rom development, pretty much everyone has given you the best advice you can get. Before rooting, always ask yourself why would you need to root your phone. Its really unnecessary to root your device if you dont really dont know anything about your device nor do you know what rooting does. Save yourself the trouble and stay with your stock rom as its probably the most stable thing for you. Until you start reading some threads, watch some videos, and read some more, then you will probably find some reason to get your device rooted and install some great roms that these developers have created for our phones.
Just make sure you flash a rom specific to skyrocket. Anything else will most likely brick your phone.
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Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
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It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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Here is an excellent place to start your reading.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427268
And as the others said search before asking. But if u need help ask. Theres pleanty of kind folks on here who will steer you in the right direction. If you ask nicely,
And you can pm me if you need help. I dont mind if anyone pm's me when they need help.
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It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Mortem Tuam said:
I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Haha and jailbreaking is so easy but like you said it's still limited.
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Hi Folks,
I just bought an Acer A500 and I'm really disappointed in it. The screen isn't very good, and wifi seems a bit wonky on it. Not that I'm against hacking, because I'm not at all. I don't like the fact that it doesn't work with ad-hoc wifi connections out of the box. The thing I loved about it was that I had it rooted, recovery and a custom ICS rom installed within an hour.
I know the TF101 has a better screen so I'm not going to ask that. I've tried to search for most of this info, but you know how good search is, so I'll ask here.
I see the tab has root, is there a one click method that I missed? I thought I saw one for it at one point but haven't seen it since.
As far as wifi goes, will this thing hook up to our android phones using the tether apps (not pdanet)?
How easy is it to brick one of these? Stupid question I know, but I've been using Samsung phones which are pretty much impossible to brick unless you really screw up on a kernel, so I would just like to hear what you think.
Reason I ask is because I debated between this and the A500. I went with the A500 based on price. I've been theming over on the the Nexus S for AOKP and CM9 so I'm looking for a tab that I will be able to work with the same roms so I can expand into tablets. I've also started trying to do some source builds so I can make some of my own visual modifications to some of the jar files within the framework.
Thanks in advanced for any input you can give!
1. Easy to root, especially the earlier models.
2. Wifi tether & Bluetooth tether (I recommend bluetooth highly!)
3. Almost impossible to brick if you have one of the earlier Transformers with NVflash.
shane6374 said:
Hi Folks,
I see the tab has root, is there a one click method that I missed? I thought I saw one for it at one point but haven't seen it since.
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Vipermod for ICS - Search for it.
shane6374 said:
As far as wifi goes, will this thing hook up to our android phones using the tether apps (not pdanet)?
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I use my inspire 4g to connect to all the time. I just place my phone into hotspot mode and use Wep Security and then just log on with the tab.
shane6374 said:
How easy is it to brick one of these? Stupid question I know, but I've been using Samsung phones which are pretty much impossible to brick unless you really screw up on a kernel, so I would just like to hear what you think.
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On a new model, all you get is CWM. So make a back up and hold it dear. Because if something gets hosed while flashing and you don't have anything to go back to. Its dead.
On an older model they have nvflash and can recover from anything.
So what I'm hearing is buy a refurb and hope?
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shane6374 said:
So what I'm hearing is buy a refurb and hope?
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Mine is a new model. SBK2. I have flashed it 30 times and never had an issue. Granted I have my original backup and origianl kernel on a 2 gig card I had lie'n around and then I placed that in my safe.
As long as you know what you are doing yer all good. Maybe. Lol
try to find a used one preferably SBK1 which is B-70(some) and below they are much easier to work with when it comes to modding and hacking (NV flash) which is like ODIN for Samsung phones. They are great tablets dont get me wrong but the new wave of devices are unfortunetly going to make these tabs obsolete much better than the Acer devices you spoke of
Hello,
After a failed upgrade I'm getting an error when booting the tablet. There is no actuall error just the EEE PAD startup screen, but it does not move from there.
Cold boot gave no results, wipe data gave no results, and the RCK give me a 'dead' android charater after 20 seconds.... Otherwise when trying to boot normally it is stuck on the EEE PAD screen.
Letting the battery drains was not much help either.
Thank you
Your device is bricked, and AFAIK you will only be able to unbrick it if we get an unlocked bootloader. That way you will be able to flash a new ROM through recovery with an SDcard
You've just put me off rooting my TF300.
Sorry to read about your trouble.
Why should this deter you from rooting? Just don't flash things from other devices, and you'll be fine.
Yeah just make sure to follow directions
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You've already taken the most important step - reading, reading and reading before you do anything that you're not comfortable with.
Take your time and continue reading. Find out for yourself who knows their stuff and does a really good job explaining the steps. Learning and understanding are key to not bricking your device.
I waited a couple of months before I finally took the plunge with my Droid Charge. The difference in just rooting and debloating was like night and day. As delivered by Verizon, the phone sucked. Now I love it.
While waiting for the TF300, I immersed myself into the Prime forum just to see what's up. Hit the TF300 forum as soon as created. Knew exactly what to do and not do when I received it.
There's a ton of good info here on your device, how to use it, great apps and games, and support when you need it. There's no rush as there's nothing you have to do. It really is supposed to be fun!
Thank you for the comments...
Well,
Thank you for the comments. I am not exactely a newbie. I've roote my phones many times many way. And I did the same to my Zepad before it finally broke down.
I did read the instruction and follow them carefully. Having said that my mistake was to assume that the ZT201 rom would work since the one I downloaded did not!
Now that I am fairly sure there is nothing I can do about it (except use nvflash, but I would need to find some information such as the secure boot key, etc...) does anyone know if Asus can unbrick it? Maybe I should send them the device....
maugino said:
Well,
Thank you for the comments. I am not exactely a newbie. I've roote my phones many times many way. And I did the same to my Zepad before it finally broke down.
I did read the instruction and follow them carefully. Having said that my mistake was to assume that the ZT201 rom would work since the one I downloaded did not!
Now that I am fairly sure there is nothing I can do about it (except use nvflash, but I would need to find some information such as the secure boot key, etc...) does anyone know if Asus can unbrick it? Maybe I should send them the device....
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Sorry for the misunderstanding - no slight intended. I believe we were actually responding to the post of not wanting to root.
I've been working with a tablet for 1 1/2 weeks. First ASUS device. Samsung phones are quite different (locked vs unlocked bootloaders). I'd love to help but I'm woefully unqualified. All I can suggest is looking in the TF101 and Prime forums since they're both from ASUS...
Seriously - best of luck with it.
just send it in for an RMA. that's your only hope.
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just send it in for an RMA. that's your only hope.
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That's what I thought (or 'feared' to be more truthful). Thanks.
Warm Regards
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Sorry for the misunderstanding - no slight intended. I believe we were actually responding to the post of not wanting to root.
I've been working with a tablet for 1 1/2 weeks. First ASUS device. Samsung phones are quite different (locked vs unlocked bootloaders). I'd love to help but I'm woefully unqualified. All I can suggest is looking in the TF101 and Prime forums since they're both from ASUS...
Seriously - best of luck with it.
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No offense taken... You are quite right anyway, Samsung is different, the Zepad even more so. I was merely stating a fact: I may not be a pro (if I were I would not have done this stupid thing), but I do not consider myself to be a newby and I am open to suggestion to fix it, but it seems that my best shot is to return to vendor.
Thanks for the encouragement. Really appreciate (I'm having a dark moment!)
Warm Regards
Please let us know how this works out for you (hopefully for the best!)
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Will NVFlash work on this tablet??
jgaf said:
Your device is bricked, and AFAIK you will only be able to unbrick it if we get an unlocked bootloader. That way you will be able to flash a new ROM through recovery with an SDcard
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Its not bricked
Brick means it wont switch on!!!!!!
Probably soft bricked at most!
Have you ever used ADB?
Is the device rooted? Probably not going by the date?
I picked up a Ematic EGM003 tablet for someone and I really with I wouldnt of. Its a bit sluggish and unresponsive at times. Here is the link to the one Im talking about.
amazon.com /Ematic-Android-Capacitive-Multi-Touch-Tablet/dp/B00GQI7IP0
I told him I would see what I could do about making it run a bit better. Im not the best at rooting but I did manage to root and install a rom on my old Samsung Captivate. I did search around using the EGM003 terms but I didnt see anything (maybe looking for the wrong thing?)
So is there anyway I can get this Ematic table rooted and have a lightweight rom installed to make it run a bit better. Maybe a generic rom or something that ran on a similar Ematic tablet?
Temtee22 said:
I picked up a Ematic EGM003 tablet for someone and I really with I wouldnt of. Its a bit sluggish and unresponsive at times. Here is the link to the one Im talking about.
amazon.com /Ematic-Android-Capacitive-Multi-Touch-Tablet/dp/B00GQI7IP0
I told him I would see what I could do about making it run a bit better. Im not the best at rooting but I did manage to root and install a rom on my old Samsung Captivate. I did search around using the EGM003 terms but I didnt see anything (maybe looking for the wrong thing?)
So is there anyway I can get this Ematic table rooted and have a lightweight rom installed to make it run a bit better. Maybe a generic rom or something that ran on a similar Ematic tablet?
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You most likely won't be able to get a ROM on it, probably only root. If you tried flashing a different tablets ROM it would brick your tablet.