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I am loving this phone however I am not digging the lockdown that AT&T has put on it. I went with Android because I thought it was more open than iOS, the only smart device I really have any experience with thus far is a 2nd gen iPod touch. I know what I want from the phone but I'm not sure what I need seeing that a lot of the terminology is still greek to me. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that rooting the phone is analogous to jailbreaking a iOS device. Things like flash, s-off, ROM, radio etc. start to get my head swimming.
I really just want to be able to get rid of the crap bloatware that is on the phone and be able to get apps from places other than the market (swype, amazon app store etc.) I like the sense UI and really like the features of the phone, I really just want to have more control over it. Also is it difficult to "unroot" the phone in case I need to have it serviced?
If anyone could lend insight I would be greatly appreciative. Even if you could point me to like a rooting android for dummies or anything like that would be great.
Google/youtube are your friend when it comes to learning. Also see the sticky in the inspire section of xda listing all roms etc. That sticky includes pretty much everything you need for your inspire.
As I was/still am an Android newbie, ill list some basics
Root - getting administrator rights to your phone, full control.
Rom - custom operating system for your phone, based off a stock Android OS, with mods, features, root, etc.
Kernel - used to relate operating system to hardware, control overclocking, etc.
Radio - software used to control communication, 3g, 4G, WiFi, etc.
Hacking the inspire is quite a bit more involved than jailbreaking an iPhone, as I also come from ios land, but there are good instructions and great help on xda!
Happy flashing!
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ripper522 said:
I am loving this phone however I am not digging the lockdown that AT&T has put on it. I went with Android because I thought it was more open than iOS, the only smart device I really have any experience with thus far is a 2nd gen iPod touch. I know what I want from the phone but I'm not sure what I need seeing that a lot of the terminology is still greek to me. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that rooting the phone is analogous to jailbreaking a iOS device. Things like flash, s-off, ROM, radio etc. start to get my head swimming.
I really just want to be able to get rid of the crap bloatware that is on the phone and be able to get apps from places other than the market (swype, amazon app store etc.) I like the sense UI and really like the features of the phone, I really just want to have more control over it. Also is it difficult to "unroot" the phone in case I need to have it serviced?
If anyone could lend insight I would be greatly appreciative. Even if you could point me to like a rooting android for dummies or anything like that would be great.
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Reading is your friend, I would say spend as much time as possible in the DEV section and read all of the things pertaining to rooting. If you read the threads completely and I mean every post you will find answers to every question you have.
There is no hurry in rooting your phone, it is not going anywhere and if you can live with the AT&T crapware for awhile you will learn alot. Pretty soon you will be ready to do it. It is always hard to take the first step but if you read everything you will be fine.
There is a very good FAQ section in the [DEV][GUI][RC2][GPL][3-21-2011] HTC Inspire 4G Simple One Click it will give you many answers to what you want to know and watch the rooting video on that thread also.
Good luck and have fun doing it because it is really more fun than what you may think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Easy way to root ur Inspire
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maddiedad2009 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Easy way to root ur Inspire
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+1.
Definitely stick to the hack kit and it's simple step-by-step process. Ignore the other methods that claim to be 'easy' and just follow that one carefully. It's the most reliable method with consistent results.
Make your own choice it is your phone and you have to do it, you spent the money so you make the decision's on what to do with it, not anyone else!!!
moe3754 said:
Make your own choice it is your phone and you have to do it, you spent the money so you make the decision's on what to do with it, not anyone else!!!
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Oh I am definitely making my own choice. I am looking to make an informed choice as possible.
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Oh I am definitely making my own choice. I am looking to make an informed choice as possible.
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I definitely recommend that hack kit, and if you run into trouble you can join their irc channel for live help. They've helped me a couple of times in the past, great bunch.
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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If root isn't worth it for you (depending on apps you are using and if you are a developer), then at least a custom recovery is. Making backups is quite an obsession, but can save u weeks of work.
show-p1984 said:
If root isn't worth it for you (depending on apps you are using and if you are a developer), then at least a custom recovery is. Making backups is quite an obsession, but can save u weeks of work.
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What exactly is a custom recovery? Sorry I'm really new to this kind of stuff. I didn't even know you could change the homescreen until today and no, I'm definitely not a developer
So then what all can I do with rooting my phone then?
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So then what all can I do with rooting my phone then?
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- Make screenshots.
- Run a firewall to keep apps offline that don't need internet but use it anyway.
- Control app permissions.
- Block ads.
- Tether your internet, even if your carrier doesn't support it.
- Make full backups of your data, apps,, and settings.
- Auto-sync your clock with a time server.
- Undervolt for longer battery life, overclock to make your phone faster.
And much more.
dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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I'd say YES! Personally its the Best thing I've ever done with my phone! Here's a few Incentives...
1.) Wireless Tether
2.) Increased Cpu Speed
3.) Better Battery Life
4.) Nandroid Backup
(Which basically Allows you to Fix Anything you may of messed up)
5.) New Custom Roms!!!
hi all, me to very new to this forum, and thought of asking questions regarding , what is rooting and what are the +vs of it. I get most from above replies thank you all for that, i have few more question.
1.) Does rooted phone UI will be stock version ?
2.) what may be possible -vs / disadvantages of rooting?
3.)what are Custom Roms, i see in many threads - yup am completely noob
thanks,
merin
dritz33 said:
What exactly is a custom recovery? Sorry I'm really new to this kind of stuff. I didn't even know you could change the homescreen until today and no, I'm definitely not a developer
So then what all can I do with rooting my phone then?
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a custom recovery system is used to flash zip files that are not signed (correct me if im wrong)
i suck at explaining things.
in your case you will be using a bootstrapper (just think of it as a custom recovery system, dont get confused)
once you learn and read more and see the benefits then you can decide if rooting is an option you want.
merin_83 said:
1.) Does rooted phone UI will be stock version ?
2.) what may be possible -vs / disadvantages of rooting?
3.)what are Custom Roms, i see in many threads - yup am completely noob
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1) Yes. Rooting gives you access to the system files and folders. It doesn't change anything else, unless you start changing things after you've rooted your phone.
2) Plenty of advantages. The only disadvantage is that rooted phones are not covered by warranty. You can get your warranty back by unrooting, but if something on your phones breaks that prevents you from unrooting you're out of luck.
3) Modified versions of Android. It's a bit like all the different versions of Linux for computers.
Definitely the best thing I have ever done to my Fascinate!
Thank you rogier666..
you explained everything...
Defiantly i want to root... But before that i guess i should do bit research on which version i should use O
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Unbelievably worth it in my opinion!
It opens up a whole new world of possibilities and fine tuning. In addition to this, you can often talk to the people who develop some of the custom roms/features and receive direct support. Also, this scale of developing usually means any problems are corrected within a week (instead of within 4-6 months from the manufacturer). Having the ability to make nandroid backups (think of them as save states) is yet another wonderful feature.
Happy rooting!
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Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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Don't be Fooled by the Pessimists!
Rooting your phones the Most fun you can have with your Pants On!
Lol... Nah but Seriously its Definitely Worth it!
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No your battery life will not be shorter if you flash the correct way, make sure you have it fully charged then flash. After this you drain it all the way and then charge it all the way. Do it again (twice) then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. I think this is correct, I may have the steps switched around and someone correct me if i am wrong. Overall, many custom roms actually give you better battery life.
To Root or Not To Root, That is the Question
The decision to root your phone is highly dependent on your personality and background.
For example, many people "just want it to work." This basically means that they don't care how it works, they just want to use the device as-advertised. They expect the device to give them what they pay for. Their priorities are elsewhere.
This gets a little more complicated because rooting is basically tearing down a wall that is hiding additional functionality. The complication comes from the person knowing the extra functionality is behind that wall and finding value in that extra functionality. The question of whether rooting is "useful" depends on how much value the person puts on that addition functionality (minus the potential headache of figuring out to root).
An example is tethering to access the internet with a laptop by connecting to the phone via wifi, USB, or other means. For tethering, service providers charge about $20-$30 which can be gotten for free with rooting + the appropriate apps. That's an obvious value. The cost is when the service provider decides to try to block that tethering which can be a headache trying to circumvent. There are also the moral implications...
Other reasons may be to
- learn the unknown -- who knows, you might try to make an app to do what you want to do and get paid. you could dig into the kernel and become an expert, you could start creating themes and become skilled at visual/UI design.
- control the bull$#!^ that your service provider is trying to feed you (media, ads, pay apps, etc). remove all those junk apps that they force upon you too.
- impress the ladies -- seriously, if you can get them facegoogle+ in a car on a road trip they may nod a googlyface in the future. nerd girls get their own by definition, don't try, just belong.
dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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My opinion is it depends on the particular device and what the root consists of. I have an Inspire 4G that I won't root because it just works too well as is and the root process is super-duper ugly and convoluted. However, I also have a Nexus S and, although it works perfectly fine without rooting, I have it root because the rooting process is simple and straightforward and the bootloader is open to being unlocked by a normal means rather than an ugly hack. And I only use root on my Nexus S to use certain apps that require root. I don't flash any other ROMs and I even allowed it to return to the original recovery image. Also I relocked the bootloader.
The only difference between my Nexus S and it's original state is the super-simple root. In fact, the only way to tell my Nexus S is different is to run an app that requires root. The app will work on mine and not on the original.
I wil do it olsow
+1 - well said
rogier666 said:
- Make screenshots.
- Run a firewall to keep apps offline that don't need internet but use it anyway.
- Control app permissions.
- Block ads.
- Tether your internet, even if your carrier doesn't support it.
- Make full backups of your data, apps,, and settings.
- Auto-sync your clock with a time server.
- Undervolt for longer battery life, overclock to make your phone faster.
And much more.
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Hi guys, I just got my g2x last thursday and think its one of the best phones out there. Its on stock gingerbread and Im wondering what kind of tips I can get from yall as far as making the phone look good and what are some of the best apps to use.
I am a previous iphone owner and the iphone was so easy to jailbreak and mod to my liking but after days of reading I see that its not as easy on the g2x. Can it be jailbroke? My other questions is how in the world can i get rid of apps currently on my device, i uninstall them and they pop right back up.
In Android world its call rooting. So the first thing you can do is root your phone. Read around how to do that. Then you should be able to uninstall any unnecessary app you do not like. After that you can install a custom kernel. Play with the over clock and under voltage on it. Then you can install a different rom like Cm7 or Miui.
There are lots of thing you can do with android. Thats why you think its not easy as iphone where you have only one option, jailbreak. Read around and take you time to play with you phone. Its not difficult at all and its lot of fun.
And BTW: Welcome to XDA.
First android phone here like you besides backflip which it was a temporary phone. It should be easy, it looked really complicated to me at first but I had a friend who walked me through everything. If u have any questions pm me or post in the thread. People here are glad to help. Welcome to XDA
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The g2x is surprisingly easy to hack. Especially on Linux. it's all simply laid out in the stickies. I'd suggest installing a rom ( operating system) before the kernel. I think it'll wipe the kernel when a roms installed.
Warning, everything I tell you will void warrenty.
Root. Gains access to entire device.
Install Clockworkmod recovery. This allows you to install zip files, along with SD card partitions, etc.
Install custom rom. As an iPhone user I think you should check out MIUI.
install kernel. Not sure if there's other kernels for MIUI roms.
Kernels are dependent on the rom. You want to be sure the rom you have is supported by the kernel you're installing before hand.
Uh... oh.
ROM MANAGER , after you root, could be found on the market. You can install Clockwork recovery from there (it does it for you) as well as roms.
Makes it a breeze. Doubt it's easier on the iPhone.
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pbcal said:
In Android world its call rooting. So the first thing you can do is root your phone. Read around how to do that. Then you should be able to uninstall any unnecessary app you do not like.
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I'm rooted and I still can't uninstall T-Mobile bloatware..
aceofserenity said:
I'm rooted and I still can't uninstall T-Mobile bloatware..
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You never want to uninstall the bloatware on a stock ROM as this will block any future OTA releases. The OTA and LG Updater checks your ROM and if it is not stock as it was delivered to you updates will fail the verification check. You want to buy an app from the Android Market called "Bloat Freezer." It only costs 99 cents and it freezes the apps - they don't run and are not shown in the menu; but since they are still in the ROM, just inactive, you can still get OTA updates. If you need to you can unfreeze the app at any time also. Much better way to go then deleting them.
I'm using AntTek app manager (free) to freeze my unwanted bloatware apps.
You're definitely guna love Android once you get the hang of flashing new ROMs and such.
Like you, i'm pretty new to this device also. So whenever if i feel the urge of doing something to my G2x, i always refer to this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049154
Good luck with your new G2x.
All true except this void warranty crap. If you pit everything back to stock before taking it T-Mobile there is Bo way whatsoever they know you changed anything. So don't listen to that part.
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xsteven77x said:
All true except this void warranty crap. If you pit everything back to stock before taking it T-Mobile there is Bo way whatsoever they know you changed anything. So don't listen to that part.
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Actually the hardware keeps count of how many times the NAND has been flashed; but they never seem to look at that when you send it for warranty repair or replacement.
Wow thanks to everyone that has replied!! Coming from iphone forums you guys are awsome, everyone replied nice stuff and I didnt get beat up like noobs do on the iphone forums. I will read into rooting my phone, I love hacking phones and I think Android is the way to go.
Please keep in mind I have never rooted a phone and have no idea how to.
Ok so I Don't know if I should root my Sensation, or just leave it as is. I know there are risks to rooting, but I hear rooting makes phone's more customizable?
So.. Please post:
-The Advantages of rooting
-The DisAdvantages
-The Risks
-For a noob like me, on a scale of 1-10 how hard will it be? 10 = Hardest
-Should I root, and why.
Thank you!
Go to google.com and type in "what is rooting android" now spend the next 30minutes-1hour reading and learning.
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From a scale from 1-10, I think it'd be like a 2. Its fairly simple if you read the instructions carefully.
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You should definitely root! It gives you complete control over your phone and customize it whatever way you want!
On a scale from 1-10, i think it'll be 2 too. Its really easy if you follow the instructions clearly.If you don't, there might be a chance of bricking your phone if you messed up somewhere badly. The chances are really slim though!
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Root gives u absolute control over your phone. Like admin rights on a windows computer. No disadvantages. Lots of advantages (read: a lot of cool programs out there that require root privileges)
The risk is not following instructions and turning your phone into an expensive paperweight. For a noob like you, if you can follow instructions, difficulty level is a 1. Likelihood of you bricking your phone is negatively correlated with your SAT score.
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Real question is:
Does the phone do what you want it to do as it is now?
If the answer is 'yes' then rooting isn't really neccessary. The ONLY reason I've rooted is to remove all the system apps I don't use. I use my own ROM which is basic and does what I want it to do
EddyOS said:
Real question is:
Does the phone do what you want it to do as it is now?
If the answer is 'yes' then rooting isn't really neccessary. The ONLY reason I've rooted is to remove all the system apps I don't use. I use my own ROM which is basic and does what I want it to do
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Prety much this ... for a noob rooting is totally useless .. many people do it to strip the phone off useless aps to make it faster ... which fact lost its point for me with new OTA release with which Sense became fast enought to prevent example me from bothering with rooting. At this moment theres no reason good enough for me to do it.
Another group of people are those who root just to be pimp and IN even if its totally worthless for them.
Different group of people are those who use root/s-off for changing/modifying/creating custom ROMs with either some sort of tweaked HTC Sense with transparency, various MODs and that kind of stuff, or totally different graphic layout (which reason i never fully understood since i bought Sensation for its Sense .. hence the HTC brand .. innit?)
So yea ask urself ... does the phone have all i need? if the answer is yes, then theres no need for rooting for you.
Thats my subjective point of view.
If you root you can customize your phone the way you like it, or atleast the ways developers make available to you. i just rooted my phone for the first time and it was way easier than i thought it was. before you flash a new rom, make sure you backup your device with titanium backup. then after its flashed, you can easily restore all your apps and data with titanium backup. the only data you really lose is your home screen apps because you have to put all your apps and widgets back on your own.
EddyOS said:
Real question is:
Does the phone do what you want it to do as it is now?
If the answer is 'yes' then rooting isn't really neccessary. The ONLY reason I've rooted is to remove all the system apps I don't use. I use my own ROM which is basic and does what I want it to do
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^^^This is THE perfect response to the question
I've not rooted and unless I need ICS and it won't come to the Sensation (to be honest, by the time you NEED ice cream sandwich the Sensation will likely be old tech) so I'll need a custom ROM, or there's some work related can't live without app that requires root, I can't see myself ever needing to do it.
I have rooted my 7 weeks old Sensation after only 3 weeks. Initially I thought I would never have to do so, but there were 2 things which made me unhappy: bloatware and the bitpool problem which causes crappy sound while listening to music over bluetooth headset. After all I flashed the device with as much as 7 separate roms and since today I'm happy with CM7 alpha 4. It's like a completely different device So I'd always say yes, but it depends on how your needs are.
You should root. Simply because there are many awesom apps in the market that required the root. With a rooted phone, you can do whatever you want.
The risk is your phone can be bricked. But i rooted many android phone but no brick to me, you should give it a try
What amazing apps are there for rooted devices? I'm thinking of rooting mine, mainly for the extra customisation options, but don't know if I can be bothered backing up all my apps and data. You have to back up sd card too don't you?
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You should root. Simply because there are many awesom apps in the market that required the root. With a rooted phone, you can do whatever you want.
The risk is your phone can be bricked. But i rooted many android phone but no brick to me, you should give it a try
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Thx. Couldn't have said it better. No risk - no fun
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yourpassenger said:
What amazing apps are there for rooted devices? I'm thinking of rooting mine, mainly for the extra customisation options, but don't know if I can be bothered backing up all my apps and data. You have to back up sd card too don't you?
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Titanium Backup
Root Explorer
AdFree
you can even install the HTC Beats Music mod, if you want to. I've tested that and it really sounds better. I even miss that on CM7, but I love CM7 for other reasons...
I'm sure, I forgot some apps, but it's late here
Regarding backup:
I usually have Titanium Backup for my apps & apps data (important and convenient, when moving to another rom) plus a general (clockworkmod) backup of the whole phone rom prior to flashing to be able to easily go back if something goes wrong...
im not stranger to rooting as i have done all kinds of crazy crap to my vibrant, i have the sensation and im not so sure if i want to root. Its cause i hear Htc devices are alot easier to brick, and i don't wanna risk messing with the bootloader. So far its running great, wifi tether, screenshots, i don't think you really need it.
well.
i thought im not happy with my phone so i rooted.
i installed the revolution room , it looked promising but im not happy.
my phone getting super hot while playing and some time rebooting it self and dont stop reboot until i remove the battery
as someone else said if u happy with your phone just leave it.
BshadoW1 said:
well.
i thought im not happy with my phone so i rooted.
i installed the revolution room , it looked promising but im not happy.
my phone getting super hot while playing and some time rebooting it self and dont stop reboot until i remove the battery
as someone else said if u happy with your phone just leave it.
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And if you're not happy with your phone send it back for a replacement
Course now you'll have to get it back to it's original condition and un-root it to do that...
And how about spoonfeeding???
Dude... Please read, read and read some more.
What ya'll get with root.... almost all access to all the files....
Here comes the question? What ya gonna do with it?
Do you need that?.... Don't think so. Yer probably thinking of supping yer phone...
Installing different ROM.... Then... ROMs come rooted already.
What you might ask for is: Should I S-OFF my phone?
That's up to you. You lose yer warranty if S-OFF discovered, but you can do whatever you want with yer phone....
Hope I explained as simple as it comes...
Tester
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xaccers said:
And if you're not happy with your phone send it back for a replacement
Course now you'll have to get it back to it's original condition and un-root it to do that...
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Dude....
Replacement not gonna do a crap... To be honest...
If he plays games and all other 9 yards.... His battery has to be glowing!!!
JMO.
Tester
Tester30 said:
Dude....
Replacement not gonna do a crap... To be honest...
If he plays games and all other 9 yards.... His battery has to be glowing!!!
JMO.
Tester
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Mine doesn't. I've never had a reboot due to over heating, or gotten too hot to touch, and that's even with streaming music via bluetooth, downloading over 3G and using GPS. Likewise while playing graphics intensive games with online content it's got warm but not over heated.
Some handsets have suffered an over heating issue and rightly have been replaced under warranty.
You should root, really you don't know what your missing, Android Revolution is best ROM out there and root ting is vary safe.
OK I am also new to rooting.. Can anyone suggest me link on how to root my sensation.. Plus after rooting do I need to change Kernel and Radio? (Though I still don't understand both terms).
My only concern is the slow performance. The phone should run faster for a 1.2 Ghz processor...
New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
I used super one click to root and flashed cwm through rom Manager found it easy and straight forward. After that pic a rom and flash away. Welcome to the skyrocket
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What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Don't put the cart before the horse re: rooting your phone. Just because you can doesn't always make it a good idea. But, read the sticky posts at the top of each sub-forum. Don't root until you really come up against a compelling reason to do so (I wasn't planning on rooting this phone until I decided to say to hell with AT&T's tethering manager). And if you do, read, and reread, then read again the steps on rooting and try to grok what's happening (at least on the surface).
Don't be too eager to flash any old ROM that someone tosses up on XDA. Many create more problems than they puport to fix. Don't be too concerned with overclocking your CPU. These phones have fast dualcore processors that can chew through all the bloatware the carrier puts on with no problem. Overclocking can shorten battery and device life and cause weird assorted issues. Don't get hung up on benchmark scores trying to eke out a little extra just because someone else's bar graph is bigger.
At any rate, I'll keep the stock ROM until an ICS ROM becomes available for the Skyrocket. I'll take either Samsung's or Cyanogen's, whichever comes first.
Anyway, read the sticky threads, don't root unless you know why you want to root, avoid flashing strange ROMs, and don't get hung up on benchmark scores if your device is performing fine otherwise. Oh, and have fun!
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WickR1 said:
What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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It's part of it as long as you want to keep your apps. I find that restoring apps from backup on a new ROM can be the source of many issues that otherwise wouldn't be present if you simply wiped and flashed fresh. It's certainly a bit of a pain to reinstall apps, though.
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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I would reccomend just using the stock rom for now theres is x100 more you can do with andriord as you will soon see. I honestley had the skyrocket for about a month before i rooted. Some apps i reccomend that dont need a root,
Atorrent - downloads torrent files directly onto your phone
tubex- downloads youtub videos right on your phone those are my 2 fav non rooted apps
Ill find the links for u. But i installed cmw recovery via odin. Then i did a nandroid backup. The reason for that is so i have a backup without root. Then root The
Phone.
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The first thing I did was root it and then put a rom on it. But that's just me it all depends on what you want. Its not a bad idea to familiarize yourself with the android experience first before you go ahead and get into the fun stuff.
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my suggestion to any new Android want to be Root user....
read read read read read.....read everything, even read post from other device forums. Google and read, youtube and watch.
put it all together in your head, on paper, on a spreadsheet whatever works for you....and educate yourself Before you Root and Rom.
Also remember, everything you do to your phone is your responsibility, not anyone on xda or anywhere else.
Best way to avoid problems, read and learn before you attempt.
My first Root and Rom I had read for weeks before I even looked at my phone funny.
And it's good to ask questions, just try and find an answer before you ask, most of the time it has been asked and answered already. If not here then on sites like RootzWiki or Droid Forums....just use Google.
Good luck! and welcome to Android and xda
Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
Dont even worry... it all gets better. We got a great helpful community and amazing devs. And if your scared of bricking, we got ODIN which can fix "almost" any problems
I am in an eerily similar situation. iPhone 2g --> iPhone 3g --> iPhone 3gs all since 2007-2008. Finally got an android phone and went with the Skyrocket. I have always been a techy, but, aside from a modded HP touchpad, have very limited experience with Android.
I rooted my phone after about two weeks. I read SO FREAKING MUCH about options, bricking potential, this still flash counter thing that att/samsung do, etc. I even have a buddy that has been an android fanboy since day one (computer science major).
I mainly wanted to root so that I could a) enable wifi tethering b) freeze bloatware (NOT uninstall), c) download apps from AARRRGGG locations and d) to simply learn how
I am personally waiting until ICS comes out before I try any custom roms. Until then, just learning everything I can.
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
Side note/Threadjack: one thing I am trying to find out is if ALL SGSII USB Jigs work with the SGSII Skyrocket. About to buy one just to have onhand...just incase, haha.
WickR1 said:
New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Believe me, you want to root, it really does open up much more customization, like custom ROM's, and more.
hooha23 said:
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
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Pirates my friend. Pirates. LOLS.
As for rooting and rom development, pretty much everyone has given you the best advice you can get. Before rooting, always ask yourself why would you need to root your phone. Its really unnecessary to root your device if you dont really dont know anything about your device nor do you know what rooting does. Save yourself the trouble and stay with your stock rom as its probably the most stable thing for you. Until you start reading some threads, watch some videos, and read some more, then you will probably find some reason to get your device rooted and install some great roms that these developers have created for our phones.
Just make sure you flash a rom specific to skyrocket. Anything else will most likely brick your phone.
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Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
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It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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Here is an excellent place to start your reading.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427268
And as the others said search before asking. But if u need help ask. Theres pleanty of kind folks on here who will steer you in the right direction. If you ask nicely,
And you can pm me if you need help. I dont mind if anyone pm's me when they need help.
GeezyF.Ladies said:
It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Mortem Tuam said:
I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Haha and jailbreaking is so easy but like you said it's still limited.
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