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I've been wanting an Inspire for a long time and thought I would have had to pay full price for it rather than a consignment deal. Looks like I was wrong and I went ahead and snagged one.
This is just a purely outstanding phone. It is AT&T's version of the DesireHD and I've been using a DHD ROM on my HD2 for quite some time now. I'm very familiar with the ROM my Inspire has, all the setup and functionality, and setting this Inspire up was nothing new. There are a few minor difference here and there, though. I can say it is definitely smoother and cleaner and quicker than DHD on my HD2.
Not really sure if I will try to root it or not. The last time I tried to root a genuine Android phone was nothing shy of a pain and misery of frustration. It was a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G and it just would not root. That was the first and only time I ever attempted a root. It left me with a very sour experience. However, not being rooted, I can't use my backup programs like MyBackup or Titanium. Nor can I use my screen capture app, ShootMe. I don't really need to use any of those, though.
Anyway, I'm enjoying my Inspire and I look forward to interacting with and being "Inspired"...lol...at the XDA Inspire community.
I was a newbie with rooting but once I did it it was EASY and worth it.
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Some Android phones can be easily rooted than others. It all depends on the manufacturer and model of the phone. Don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. Here are links to two proven methods of rooting the Inspire if you are interested...
HTC Inspire Hack Kit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Use the Simple Root but trust me, save yourself some later hassle and click the "Fixes" option when you're done and flash the ENG S-OFF (radio S-OFF) so if you change radios, you don't lose S-OFF plus you get engineering features like fastboot (allows you to flash new radio images for one but also allows you to try out images before you actually flash them, through fastboot, which can be handy when you aren't sure about something or you are testing a new ROM)
Guys, the user experience with this Inspire is just getting better and better. It now is super fast compared to my experience with HD2 DHD ROMs. The boot-up is almost instantaneous and the page loading in menus like Manage Apps is so much faster now.
I doubt I will ever even root this glorious machine. I'm admiring like an iPhone.
For anyone on the fence about a purchase, Hell yes! Let it have a couple days of break-in and you will see the difference from first turning it on. I'm just glad I chose the Inspire over the Atrix. The Atrix is a super nice machine, but I just don't believe it can top the silky-smooth and top-notch user experience of the Inspire.
you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
buddy17 said:
you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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The Inspire has some serious appeal. I still love my iPhone 4, but the Inspire has a quality all its own. My serious personal view of the DesireHD/Inspire 4G is that it should be the actual Android flagship smartphone. The OS...Android 2.2.1...combined with HTC's Sense 2.0 is just purely the cream-of-the-crop. The lag some people complain about with Android just isn't even a hint in this OS and on this hardware. I owned a WP7 HTC HD7 for about half a year and found the UI to be the smoothest I'd ever experienced. There was nothing that was a smooth. That was then, this is now. This Inspire is easily just as smooth, quick and clean as that WP7 HTC HD7. And the battery life is a little bit better, too.
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
Sukuiku said:
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
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For what root provides, I just see no desire to do it. The sum total of the apps I won't be able to use are currently 3, MyBackup Root, Titanium backup Pro, ShootMe. For how well this phone works and how clean it is, I'm wanting to keep the iPhone style feeling I have with it. Rooting it and such would just lead to a mess for me. It would strip away the pristine cleanness and purity of this fine piece of hardware.
Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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If you mean skins, don't worry about the them. I installed a bunch of them on mine and there is no risk that I can see. Currently using the Wildflower HD and it works just like the original. I think I have 20 skins installed.
There isn't really much risk rooting the phone - the only real risk is if you apply ENG S-OFF because that involves replacing the bootloader and if something goes wrong there, you're bricked.
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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tjb433 said:
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting is well worth the trouble. And to me, having all the bloatware removed yields a more pristine nature...
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MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
oh ho! wadd up brother!
RogerPodacter said:
Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
P00t said:
yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
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This is the reason I haven't rooted. I'm tech-savvy, but not a developer or anything. I see countless threads related to issues that seem to have risen from rooting. Either an issue arises during the process, or something happens that wouldn't have happened without root. And then there's that "you could brick your phone" deal. I'll stay unrooted.
Note: I'm posting this on multiple forums to receive more varied feedback, so if you see it in a couple places, please don't get upset.
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One. I'm frankly disappointed in the battery life and the customization options available to me. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile, so I'm very aware of all the options I have with my Inspire -- telling me that I can root "following this guide" or whatnot isn't going to be a game-changer for me.
What are your thoughts? What will I miss going from the Inspire to the Nexus One? What might I like better about the Nexus One? Is the trackball really that exciting?
If I do end up looking to do it, what do I have to look for when getting one? I know they sold them for TMo only first, and then brought out an AT&T compatible one. I've heard that there were two different screens available for them, does anyone have a preference or know what the difference might be? If I do end up looking for one, where should I look? Do you think there would be people willing to trade a Nexus One for an Inspire plus some cash?
I've already done a backup to the SD card via My Backup Pro - if I get a Nexus One, should I just have to insert the SIM and SD card and restore everything, or do I have to worry about more than that?
Any thoughts or advice is welcome! Thank you!
What customization options are you disappointed about? Just remember the Inspire is just 2 months old and look how far we have gotten with it so far.
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True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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rooting is easier then you think!
HTC Inspire on CM7. Beast ROM. If I helped Thank me
I wouldn't touch a Nexus One with a ten foot pole. I am too used to using modern tech. That phone is very dated and feels every month of it. It would be like me giving up my Inspire for an iPhone 3G. If I were to move to the Nexus, I'd definitely be looking at the Nexus S. It's still an older tech phone, but has a nicer screen, it's lighter, and has a great support community.
However, I really can't think of anything you could do with the Nexus One that you can't with the Inspire... Every rom you could think of is here on this phone. The Captivate devs are almost all over here now, so we have that going for us. Of course, I'm in an HSPA+ area, so I'd also be taking a nose dive in data speed.
Oh yea, and using the newest version of the LeeDroid rom with SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer, I'm just now pluggin my phone in at the 34 hour mark with 5 hours of screen time... That's pretty damn good, if I do say so my damn self.
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
Maybe he will like that with the N1 you can have a dirty trackball(since most are used now) that can change colors? You know colors with a "Brownish" tint.
The only thing advantage I could think of is there is a chance to use a cheaper data plan with the N1. But then again, the last time I used a N1 was a yr ago, so now the IMEIs may be recognized by ATT. But not sure if the OP realizes that you can do this.
Yeah, I've kinda dismissed the whole "Stick it to AT&T and use a $10 data plan!" thing. From what I can tell, the ones who do it are pretty much just lucky at this point. If you can say being stuck on Edge is lucky...
*takes a deep breath* Okay, maybe I'll look into this whole rooting business. I'd say I've been through about 1/3 of the pages in that one click root thread... Seems like a fair few people are getting things mucked up -- would you say they're pretty much the ones who are messing with things I'd likely never touch? Do I ever need to worry about a radio? Does the stock rooted ROM that's loaded at the end of it allow for better battery life and overclocking? Those are really my two biggest concerns if I'm going to root (and yeah, I get that they're counterproductive!).
I know I'm asking all the noob questions over again, most of which have already been answered many times here. People tend to get impatient with people like me getting into this kind of stuff, which is one reason I chose to stay away from it. This editorial (http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer) also made me think twice (or three times)...
If I get into this, what I'd like to be able to do is to copy all my SD card files onto my computer, keeping the whole thing intact, copy it all back once this thing is done and I no longer need the gold card, fire up My Backup Pro, and have everything end up right back where it was. I really feel as if this is asking too much...
I know the feeling of everything looking really complex and hard. I came from a black berry, the key to rooting with either method is reading the directions. The directions are extremely watered down. What exactly scares you about rooting, what terminology? We are here to help you. The inspire is an amazing little device.
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Breaking things not so much . No one has completely bricked their inspire. There are a few things here and there that pop up and usually already have a fix posted for them.
Check out the guide to flashing at the top of this forum, I tried to get as detailed as I could.
Honestly no, Flashing a new rom (not an patch/upgrade) will be like booting your phone up for the first time. Though you can back up your sms,apps, and contacts. Everything else you will have to set up again. It can be a pain, but the pros far out weigh the cons !
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
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They are both good, the hack kit lets you be a little more involved with the rooting process. Where the GUI is more automated. The GUI has the potential to flash the h-boot wrong after it is rooted and s-off, leading to a black cwm screen. You can find a fix for that in the guide that is stickied.
Ooooookay, taking a deep breath and diving in. I'll let you know when I come up for air...
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Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
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I say the only reason you should use the hack kit is to understand adb commands a little bit better. I've used both methods and felt a tiny bit more accomplished with the hack kit. Don't worry about messing up, there are plenty of people willing to lend a hand.
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
EDIT: I believe from most of my reading that I'm most interested in the LeeDroid ROM and accoutrements. Someone earlier mentioned that they are using this right now -- from going through his thread, it looks like that involves kernels and radios in addition to ROMS. I'm not asking for anyone to do anything special for me, but is there a step-by-step on how to go from post-One Click to happy LeeDroid?
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
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Unless they changed it no (GUI).
Most devs will put OC or [OC] in the threads title, most of the time the kernel will flash along side of the rom. Though if it isn't and it is an optional kernel, the best method is to flash the the rom, then reboot, then flash the kernel. Most are overclocked to 1.8ghz some are 1.5ghz.
edit: You flash a kernel like you would a rom, except when flashing a kernel you don't do a full wipe, but it is best to wipe cache and dalvik cache.
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
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I have to chime in here and say that I have rooted and flashed my old Nexus one many times and I was totally lost with the Inspire root methods. I literally got a migraine just reading through the one-click thread the first time.
What are you having trouble understanding about it?
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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lol i'd love to but can't :\
track40 said:
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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How much? I'm in Oak Park and just curious.
I've rooted 4 MT4G's, 1 recently(old one didn't agree with the pool), 3 G1's, a Desire, and a Nook, so I'm pretty familiar with rooting.
If i were you, i wouldn't relay on someone else. If something goes south how are YOU going to fix YOUR phone?
I know. That is something I've been wrestling with. Not sure how to do it otherwise. Wish I knew someone that I could trust.
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I know. That is something I've been wrestling with. Not sure how to do it otherwise. Wish I knew someone that I could trust.
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Everyone has to start somewhere. I'd take a look in my new comers thread. Link is in my signature.
That is a good starting point.
My biggest concern is undoing Gingerbread and rolling back to Froyo. Other than that... the tools along with everything I've read seem pretty solid.
Damn Gingerbread.
I'm have the same issue downgrading with no home internet I was asking the same for someone in N.Y.C area. After a downgrade is done I can easily root and put a rom with no home internet.
guys, take your time, READ THE DIRECTIONS, and you'll be fine. you can do it!!!
I think the ideal thing to do would be to snag a cheap MT4G on eBay, and mess with rooting that way.
Then if I mess it all up, no worries.
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Best thing to do is to read,read,and re-read.its not very difficult to figure it out.all the info is here.why pay me to read instructions,and usr a little deductive reasoni.g,when you can do the same.
Well,
Oh,ok.
$100 bucks.drop it off over here by the HIP mall.lol.
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Just kidding.dude,its not difficult.just search and think about it.you'll do it.
I didn't even know what a zip file was,and now I've rooted,hacked l kinds of stuff,using adb,etc...but I did spend a lot of time reading about Linux,cell phones,etc...
Then,I read some more,and paid attention to the problems others had,and figured what to do,and what not to do.
Other words,u can do it.don't pay someone.
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Thanks guys.
Will try it myself after a little more research.
The unlockr.com was a good place to start for me, real simple step by step tutorials and they have some good roms, ( linked to xda), to start with. I don't know if it has been updated recently but it couldn't hurt. Rooting took me like 10 min to figure out by the way, it really isn't that difficult of a process. Good luck!
The step by step wiki is SUPER easy to follow.
When I first did it I didn't know what half of the steps meant. But you just follow them in order, trust that the people who wrote them weren't playing some prank, and everything works fine.
It's more cutting and pasting from the wiki to your terminal screen than anything else. If you can cut and paste, you can root the MT4G
theunlockr.com seems to have very straightforward instructions on how to roll back to Froyo and then actually root the MT4G.
Once the phone is rooted and running a third party rom, if you ever have a problem with cell service, like not getting voicemails, or something like that, will Tmo even help you?
Do you have to reload the stock rom prior to ever making any service requests?
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Yea they won't help if you are having issues with whatever rom you are on. No rom Is perfect so you might have issues like that, if you do you just load a new rom. Trolling around the forums is a good way to see what roms have issues and what dont. Team Royal, Unity, Faux123, CM7, and evil D (unity idk if he does work by himse
lf), all make solid roms. Rooting voids your warranty (as if you didn't know that), so if by any chance you destroy you phone, un root it first then send it back. One thing I have found however is that it is almost impossible to brick you phone, ( unless you are messing with the radios so DONT!, unless you know what you a doing), that is because you can flash a backup so, if you already knew that stuff...well sorrys! If not...your welcome.
Dont worry you can do it! I was super worried my self and it took me weeks to finally jump in but now theres no turning back for me!
I gotta say this community sure is supportive. Thanks guys! I gotta read everything on "theunlockr.com" a few dozen times now.
Anyone know if I'm starting from Gingerbread, rolling back, then rooting, then flashing CM7... How much time this should all take... Ballpark, assuming no problems?
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If you're working straight through without putting the phone aside at each milestone like I did and don't get stuck with mildly confusing errors like I did twice (SD card file system mounting confusion and an untimely update to the Android Terminal Emulator app that screwed up the keyboard—developer has since fixed the issue) and failure to CTFM (comprehend, not read) what I was reading after midnight on the first night, I'd imagine you could get it all done within a couple of hours, including backing up the stock ROM and installing the engineering bootloader. However, I would just take it one step at a time and not rush through everything.
Make sure to back up your stock ROM. The CM wiki for this phone completely ignores that process as well as any information on how to unroot, and I think it's unwise to believe that you won't ever need to revert to factory settings once you switch to CM.
I took bits and pieces from four different guides to revert and then root. I did what was most logical between the guides because none of the four that I used were as comprehensive as I think they should be for a complete newbie. The one that came closest in my opinion was the root guide for the HTC Panache from the HTC Glacier XDA wiki entry. That said, I'm not new to shells nor phone modding, so I figured it all out eventually. Installing the new ROM was the easiest part for me, followed closely by rolling back to Froyo. The middle part—rooting—requires the most patience and understanding of what's happening.
I have done custom ROMS on my old HTC TP2 so I kind of get it, but what do you gain by rooting your G2X? Right now I have a stock G2X thar is unlocked. I'm sure you can install new ROMS after being rooted, but does the good outweigh the bad. What I am trying to say is yes I agree that a stock phone has some bugs, but overall it works and does what it is supposed to. But rooting? I see post after post on this forum of bugs after bugs and questions after questions about something not working after rooting. So far it seems like a hassle and a whole world of endless misery. I gotta say that I am impressed how you create new roms to work on our phone, but how about a 1 button fix that does everything from rooting to installing a new ROM without the bugs so us newbs don't have to ask a million questions and download endless Apps to make it work correctly. Another words I'm not sold on the idea unless I'm missing something. On my HTC TP2 I had no choice but to enter into the realm of no return because the phone was a snail POS to begin with. So now I ask, what can I expect, I mean the phone stock is pretty good?
I guess if you're not willing to learn some stuff and get your hands dirty, then maybe rooting this phone isn't for you. There's no "one-click-and-done" for this device.
It has staggering potential if you are willing to learn rooting & modding. There are some really great roms available that make this phone more functional, fun, and pretty.
I got some experience rooting when a friend of mine asked if I could turn his nook color into an Android tablet. I learned more doing that than I did in 4 years of high school.
Rooting & modding isn't for everybody. If you think your G2x is fine the way it is, then leave it alone.
wireless tethering
You don't need root to install custom roms. Just install nvflash.
rooting allows the use of some good custom apps. Titanium backup for example. Paid version allows one click to restore all apps.
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Beekersguy said:
I guess if you're not willing to learn some stuff and get your hands dirty, then maybe rooting this phone isn't for you. There's no "one-click-and-done" for this device.
It has staggering potential if you are willing to learn rooting & modding. There are some really great roms available that make this phone more functional, fun, and pretty.
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What do you mean more "functional"?
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wireless tethering
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If what you mean by "wireless tethering", you mean using your phone as a wireless router, than I don't understand because I can do that now without being rooted. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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You don't need root to install custom roms. Just install nvflash.
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I am really interested in hearing more about this. Where can I get nvflash? Is this something that will screw up my phone if I don't do it right? So after installing nvflash, I can just flash any ROM, just like that?
Plain and simple. If you want to be able to control every aspect of your phone: root. If your happy the way things are. Keep things the way they are.
AdFree. That is all the reason you need. And before I get flamed, I buy paid versions of apps I use, but on the ones paid isn't available, I block the ads. Can't stand them.
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AdFree. That is all the reason you need. And before I get flamed, I buy paid versions of apps I use, but on the ones paid isn't available, I block the ads. Can't stand them.
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True, number one reason to root. I decided to root because of that lol.
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Look at it this way.
With root, you are the phone's God.
Without root, you are the phone's *****.
Plain and simple.
Winning!
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
I used super one click to root and flashed cwm through rom Manager found it easy and straight forward. After that pic a rom and flash away. Welcome to the skyrocket
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What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Don't put the cart before the horse re: rooting your phone. Just because you can doesn't always make it a good idea. But, read the sticky posts at the top of each sub-forum. Don't root until you really come up against a compelling reason to do so (I wasn't planning on rooting this phone until I decided to say to hell with AT&T's tethering manager). And if you do, read, and reread, then read again the steps on rooting and try to grok what's happening (at least on the surface).
Don't be too eager to flash any old ROM that someone tosses up on XDA. Many create more problems than they puport to fix. Don't be too concerned with overclocking your CPU. These phones have fast dualcore processors that can chew through all the bloatware the carrier puts on with no problem. Overclocking can shorten battery and device life and cause weird assorted issues. Don't get hung up on benchmark scores trying to eke out a little extra just because someone else's bar graph is bigger.
At any rate, I'll keep the stock ROM until an ICS ROM becomes available for the Skyrocket. I'll take either Samsung's or Cyanogen's, whichever comes first.
Anyway, read the sticky threads, don't root unless you know why you want to root, avoid flashing strange ROMs, and don't get hung up on benchmark scores if your device is performing fine otherwise. Oh, and have fun!
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What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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It's part of it as long as you want to keep your apps. I find that restoring apps from backup on a new ROM can be the source of many issues that otherwise wouldn't be present if you simply wiped and flashed fresh. It's certainly a bit of a pain to reinstall apps, though.
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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I would reccomend just using the stock rom for now theres is x100 more you can do with andriord as you will soon see. I honestley had the skyrocket for about a month before i rooted. Some apps i reccomend that dont need a root,
Atorrent - downloads torrent files directly onto your phone
tubex- downloads youtub videos right on your phone those are my 2 fav non rooted apps
Ill find the links for u. But i installed cmw recovery via odin. Then i did a nandroid backup. The reason for that is so i have a backup without root. Then root The
Phone.
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The first thing I did was root it and then put a rom on it. But that's just me it all depends on what you want. Its not a bad idea to familiarize yourself with the android experience first before you go ahead and get into the fun stuff.
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my suggestion to any new Android want to be Root user....
read read read read read.....read everything, even read post from other device forums. Google and read, youtube and watch.
put it all together in your head, on paper, on a spreadsheet whatever works for you....and educate yourself Before you Root and Rom.
Also remember, everything you do to your phone is your responsibility, not anyone on xda or anywhere else.
Best way to avoid problems, read and learn before you attempt.
My first Root and Rom I had read for weeks before I even looked at my phone funny.
And it's good to ask questions, just try and find an answer before you ask, most of the time it has been asked and answered already. If not here then on sites like RootzWiki or Droid Forums....just use Google.
Good luck! and welcome to Android and xda
Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
Dont even worry... it all gets better. We got a great helpful community and amazing devs. And if your scared of bricking, we got ODIN which can fix "almost" any problems
I am in an eerily similar situation. iPhone 2g --> iPhone 3g --> iPhone 3gs all since 2007-2008. Finally got an android phone and went with the Skyrocket. I have always been a techy, but, aside from a modded HP touchpad, have very limited experience with Android.
I rooted my phone after about two weeks. I read SO FREAKING MUCH about options, bricking potential, this still flash counter thing that att/samsung do, etc. I even have a buddy that has been an android fanboy since day one (computer science major).
I mainly wanted to root so that I could a) enable wifi tethering b) freeze bloatware (NOT uninstall), c) download apps from AARRRGGG locations and d) to simply learn how
I am personally waiting until ICS comes out before I try any custom roms. Until then, just learning everything I can.
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
Side note/Threadjack: one thing I am trying to find out is if ALL SGSII USB Jigs work with the SGSII Skyrocket. About to buy one just to have onhand...just incase, haha.
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New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Believe me, you want to root, it really does open up much more customization, like custom ROM's, and more.
hooha23 said:
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
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Pirates my friend. Pirates. LOLS.
As for rooting and rom development, pretty much everyone has given you the best advice you can get. Before rooting, always ask yourself why would you need to root your phone. Its really unnecessary to root your device if you dont really dont know anything about your device nor do you know what rooting does. Save yourself the trouble and stay with your stock rom as its probably the most stable thing for you. Until you start reading some threads, watch some videos, and read some more, then you will probably find some reason to get your device rooted and install some great roms that these developers have created for our phones.
Just make sure you flash a rom specific to skyrocket. Anything else will most likely brick your phone.
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Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
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It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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Here is an excellent place to start your reading.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427268
And as the others said search before asking. But if u need help ask. Theres pleanty of kind folks on here who will steer you in the right direction. If you ask nicely,
And you can pm me if you need help. I dont mind if anyone pm's me when they need help.
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It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Mortem Tuam said:
I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Haha and jailbreaking is so easy but like you said it's still limited.
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