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[Q] New Inspire Owner First Time Android User Questions

I am loving this phone however I am not digging the lockdown that AT&T has put on it. I went with Android because I thought it was more open than iOS, the only smart device I really have any experience with thus far is a 2nd gen iPod touch. I know what I want from the phone but I'm not sure what I need seeing that a lot of the terminology is still greek to me. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that rooting the phone is analogous to jailbreaking a iOS device. Things like flash, s-off, ROM, radio etc. start to get my head swimming.
I really just want to be able to get rid of the crap bloatware that is on the phone and be able to get apps from places other than the market (swype, amazon app store etc.) I like the sense UI and really like the features of the phone, I really just want to have more control over it. Also is it difficult to "unroot" the phone in case I need to have it serviced?
If anyone could lend insight I would be greatly appreciative. Even if you could point me to like a rooting android for dummies or anything like that would be great.

Google/youtube are your friend when it comes to learning. Also see the sticky in the inspire section of xda listing all roms etc. That sticky includes pretty much everything you need for your inspire.
As I was/still am an Android newbie, ill list some basics
Root - getting administrator rights to your phone, full control.
Rom - custom operating system for your phone, based off a stock Android OS, with mods, features, root, etc.
Kernel - used to relate operating system to hardware, control overclocking, etc.
Radio - software used to control communication, 3g, 4G, WiFi, etc.
Hacking the inspire is quite a bit more involved than jailbreaking an iPhone, as I also come from ios land, but there are good instructions and great help on xda!
Happy flashing!
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ripper522 said:
I am loving this phone however I am not digging the lockdown that AT&T has put on it. I went with Android because I thought it was more open than iOS, the only smart device I really have any experience with thus far is a 2nd gen iPod touch. I know what I want from the phone but I'm not sure what I need seeing that a lot of the terminology is still greek to me. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that rooting the phone is analogous to jailbreaking a iOS device. Things like flash, s-off, ROM, radio etc. start to get my head swimming.
I really just want to be able to get rid of the crap bloatware that is on the phone and be able to get apps from places other than the market (swype, amazon app store etc.) I like the sense UI and really like the features of the phone, I really just want to have more control over it. Also is it difficult to "unroot" the phone in case I need to have it serviced?
If anyone could lend insight I would be greatly appreciative. Even if you could point me to like a rooting android for dummies or anything like that would be great.
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Reading is your friend, I would say spend as much time as possible in the DEV section and read all of the things pertaining to rooting. If you read the threads completely and I mean every post you will find answers to every question you have.
There is no hurry in rooting your phone, it is not going anywhere and if you can live with the AT&T crapware for awhile you will learn alot. Pretty soon you will be ready to do it. It is always hard to take the first step but if you read everything you will be fine.
There is a very good FAQ section in the [DEV][GUI][RC2][GPL][3-21-2011] HTC Inspire 4G Simple One Click it will give you many answers to what you want to know and watch the rooting video on that thread also.
Good luck and have fun doing it because it is really more fun than what you may think.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Easy way to root ur Inspire
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maddiedad2009 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Easy way to root ur Inspire
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+1.
Definitely stick to the hack kit and it's simple step-by-step process. Ignore the other methods that claim to be 'easy' and just follow that one carefully. It's the most reliable method with consistent results.

Make your own choice it is your phone and you have to do it, you spent the money so you make the decision's on what to do with it, not anyone else!!!

moe3754 said:
Make your own choice it is your phone and you have to do it, you spent the money so you make the decision's on what to do with it, not anyone else!!!
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Oh I am definitely making my own choice. I am looking to make an informed choice as possible.

ripper522 said:
Oh I am definitely making my own choice. I am looking to make an informed choice as possible.
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I definitely recommend that hack kit, and if you run into trouble you can join their irc channel for live help. They've helped me a couple of times in the past, great bunch.

Will Anyone Buy a HTC Device If it becomes totally Unrootable

I have the HTC inspire 4G, and I'll be watching closely on phones i do not even own such as the thunderbolt to see if anyone is able to unlock the bootloader. Coming from a jailbroken Iphone 3GS and Iphone 4, to a rooted samsung captivate which I liked, has awesome graphics capability. 3 Months after buying the captivate the Inspire 4G was released and I had to have it. Not because its 4G, My 3G here in Tampa, Florida streamed HD videos without never having to stop to buffer, so I was satisfied with that, I average 3.8 down with almost every 3G phone I've ever owned. I bought it because of the screen size and camera flash. And I love it, I'm very impressed with my rooted Inspire, However a year from now, and I want another phone, If HTC becomes impossible to root, I'll go back to Samsung. Took 45 seconds to root my captivate and that includes downloading the one click root lol.
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I'm not saying I agree with them locking down the bootloader given the nature and ethos of Android, but from a business standpoint it does make sense. Perhaps they decided to begin locking things down because they were getting too many warranty/support claims by people who had screwed things up by modding their devices.
Again, I'm not defending it at all. Just try looking at it from the other perspective, eh?

The original code crunchers won't like people to mess with their software! But it's alright our great developers of XDA will breeze past any obstacles
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from a business point of view it does make sense, specially with what angingrich says, a boycott is not gonna help because
a)either way people will still buy the phone
b)only a minority actually gets into hacking the phone like us
so there you go, that been said i don't think they will stop with the locking process, now try that on Docomo or Softbank they won't even unlock the phone even if you threat them with lawsuits....i guess business is business after all.

consegregate said:
The original code crunchers won't like people to mess with their software! But it's alright our great developers of XDA will breeze past any obstacles
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I understand, I just feel it is my device, and I should be able to alter it the way I want. Just like the way I can on the Laptop I own. Be like getting a computer with no r/w access on your hard drive except to store multimedia.

angingrich said:
I'm not saying I agree with them locking down the bootloader given the nature and ethos of Android, but from a business standpoint it does make sense. Perhaps they decided to begin locking things down because they were getting too many warranty/support claims by people who had screwed things up by modding their devices.
Again, I'm not defending it at all. Just try looking at it from the other perspective, eh?
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I don't think support claims are the reason. Have you ever read about people bricking their HTC phones when they tried to root them? They brick their phones when they try to bypass a NAND lock or the Motorola signature check.

Given the choice I will not buy another handset with a locked bootloader.

budco2000 said:
I understand, I just feel it is my device, and I should be able to alter it the way I want. Just like the way I can on the Laptop I own. Be like getting a computer with no r/w access on your hard drive except to store multimedia.
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Mostly because r/w access to system files can eff things up more on a phone then a laptop? Safety for the average users and rooting for the more experienced who won't brick their phone and cry for warranty.
I won't buy an android phone if there's no root though! Nearly chucked my x10 mini pro because stock rom sucks.

[Q] HTC Inspire 4G to Nexus One?

Note: I'm posting this on multiple forums to receive more varied feedback, so if you see it in a couple places, please don't get upset.
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One. I'm frankly disappointed in the battery life and the customization options available to me. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile, so I'm very aware of all the options I have with my Inspire -- telling me that I can root "following this guide" or whatnot isn't going to be a game-changer for me.
What are your thoughts? What will I miss going from the Inspire to the Nexus One? What might I like better about the Nexus One? Is the trackball really that exciting?
If I do end up looking to do it, what do I have to look for when getting one? I know they sold them for TMo only first, and then brought out an AT&T compatible one. I've heard that there were two different screens available for them, does anyone have a preference or know what the difference might be? If I do end up looking for one, where should I look? Do you think there would be people willing to trade a Nexus One for an Inspire plus some cash?
I've already done a backup to the SD card via My Backup Pro - if I get a Nexus One, should I just have to insert the SIM and SD card and restore everything, or do I have to worry about more than that?
Any thoughts or advice is welcome! Thank you!

What customization options are you disappointed about? Just remember the Inspire is just 2 months old and look how far we have gotten with it so far.
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True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.

Silas0220 said:
True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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rooting is easier then you think!
HTC Inspire on CM7. Beast ROM. If I helped Thank me

I wouldn't touch a Nexus One with a ten foot pole. I am too used to using modern tech. That phone is very dated and feels every month of it. It would be like me giving up my Inspire for an iPhone 3G. If I were to move to the Nexus, I'd definitely be looking at the Nexus S. It's still an older tech phone, but has a nicer screen, it's lighter, and has a great support community.
However, I really can't think of anything you could do with the Nexus One that you can't with the Inspire... Every rom you could think of is here on this phone. The Captivate devs are almost all over here now, so we have that going for us. Of course, I'm in an HSPA+ area, so I'd also be taking a nose dive in data speed.
Oh yea, and using the newest version of the LeeDroid rom with SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer, I'm just now pluggin my phone in at the 34 hour mark with 5 hours of screen time... That's pretty damn good, if I do say so my damn self.

Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...

Silas0220 said:
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.

Maybe he will like that with the N1 you can have a dirty trackball(since most are used now) that can change colors? You know colors with a "Brownish" tint.
The only thing advantage I could think of is there is a chance to use a cheaper data plan with the N1. But then again, the last time I used a N1 was a yr ago, so now the IMEIs may be recognized by ATT. But not sure if the OP realizes that you can do this.

Yeah, I've kinda dismissed the whole "Stick it to AT&T and use a $10 data plan!" thing. From what I can tell, the ones who do it are pretty much just lucky at this point. If you can say being stuck on Edge is lucky...
*takes a deep breath* Okay, maybe I'll look into this whole rooting business. I'd say I've been through about 1/3 of the pages in that one click root thread... Seems like a fair few people are getting things mucked up -- would you say they're pretty much the ones who are messing with things I'd likely never touch? Do I ever need to worry about a radio? Does the stock rooted ROM that's loaded at the end of it allow for better battery life and overclocking? Those are really my two biggest concerns if I'm going to root (and yeah, I get that they're counterproductive!).
I know I'm asking all the noob questions over again, most of which have already been answered many times here. People tend to get impatient with people like me getting into this kind of stuff, which is one reason I chose to stay away from it. This editorial (http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer) also made me think twice (or three times)...
If I get into this, what I'd like to be able to do is to copy all my SD card files onto my computer, keeping the whole thing intact, copy it all back once this thing is done and I no longer need the gold card, fire up My Backup Pro, and have everything end up right back where it was. I really feel as if this is asking too much...

I know the feeling of everything looking really complex and hard. I came from a black berry, the key to rooting with either method is reading the directions. The directions are extremely watered down. What exactly scares you about rooting, what terminology? We are here to help you. The inspire is an amazing little device.

Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.

Silas0220 said:
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Breaking things not so much . No one has completely bricked their inspire. There are a few things here and there that pop up and usually already have a fix posted for them.
Check out the guide to flashing at the top of this forum, I tried to get as detailed as I could.
Honestly no, Flashing a new rom (not an patch/upgrade) will be like booting your phone up for the first time. Though you can back up your sms,apps, and contacts. Everything else you will have to set up again. It can be a pain, but the pros far out weigh the cons !

Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.

They are both good, the hack kit lets you be a little more involved with the rooting process. Where the GUI is more automated. The GUI has the potential to flash the h-boot wrong after it is rooted and s-off, leading to a black cwm screen. You can find a fix for that in the guide that is stickied.

Ooooookay, taking a deep breath and diving in. I'll let you know when I come up for air...

Silas0220 said:
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
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I say the only reason you should use the hack kit is to understand adb commands a little bit better. I've used both methods and felt a tiny bit more accomplished with the hack kit. Don't worry about messing up, there are plenty of people willing to lend a hand.
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
EDIT: I believe from most of my reading that I'm most interested in the LeeDroid ROM and accoutrements. Someone earlier mentioned that they are using this right now -- from going through his thread, it looks like that involves kernels and radios in addition to ROMS. I'm not asking for anyone to do anything special for me, but is there a step-by-step on how to go from post-One Click to happy LeeDroid?

Silas0220 said:
Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
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Unless they changed it no (GUI).
Most devs will put OC or [OC] in the threads title, most of the time the kernel will flash along side of the rom. Though if it isn't and it is an optional kernel, the best method is to flash the the rom, then reboot, then flash the kernel. Most are overclocked to 1.8ghz some are 1.5ghz.
edit: You flash a kernel like you would a rom, except when flashing a kernel you don't do a full wipe, but it is best to wipe cache and dalvik cache.

Divinedark said:
Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
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I have to chime in here and say that I have rooted and flashed my old Nexus one many times and I was totally lost with the Inspire root methods. I literally got a migraine just reading through the one-click thread the first time.

What are you having trouble understanding about it?

New to Skyrocket (and Android)

New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?

I used super one click to root and flashed cwm through rom Manager found it easy and straight forward. After that pic a rom and flash away. Welcome to the skyrocket
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What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?

WickR1 said:
New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Don't put the cart before the horse re: rooting your phone. Just because you can doesn't always make it a good idea. But, read the sticky posts at the top of each sub-forum. Don't root until you really come up against a compelling reason to do so (I wasn't planning on rooting this phone until I decided to say to hell with AT&T's tethering manager). And if you do, read, and reread, then read again the steps on rooting and try to grok what's happening (at least on the surface).
Don't be too eager to flash any old ROM that someone tosses up on XDA. Many create more problems than they puport to fix. Don't be too concerned with overclocking your CPU. These phones have fast dualcore processors that can chew through all the bloatware the carrier puts on with no problem. Overclocking can shorten battery and device life and cause weird assorted issues. Don't get hung up on benchmark scores trying to eke out a little extra just because someone else's bar graph is bigger.
At any rate, I'll keep the stock ROM until an ICS ROM becomes available for the Skyrocket. I'll take either Samsung's or Cyanogen's, whichever comes first.
Anyway, read the sticky threads, don't root unless you know why you want to root, avoid flashing strange ROMs, and don't get hung up on benchmark scores if your device is performing fine otherwise. Oh, and have fun!
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WickR1 said:
What about the whole restore/backup thing? Is that part of it as well? Or a separate thing to do?
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It's part of it as long as you want to keep your apps. I find that restoring apps from backup on a new ROM can be the source of many issues that otherwise wouldn't be present if you simply wiped and flashed fresh. It's certainly a bit of a pain to reinstall apps, though.

WickR1 said:
New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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I would reccomend just using the stock rom for now theres is x100 more you can do with andriord as you will soon see. I honestley had the skyrocket for about a month before i rooted. Some apps i reccomend that dont need a root,
Atorrent - downloads torrent files directly onto your phone
tubex- downloads youtub videos right on your phone those are my 2 fav non rooted apps

Ill find the links for u. But i installed cmw recovery via odin. Then i did a nandroid backup. The reason for that is so i have a backup without root. Then root The
Phone.
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The first thing I did was root it and then put a rom on it. But that's just me it all depends on what you want. Its not a bad idea to familiarize yourself with the android experience first before you go ahead and get into the fun stuff.
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my suggestion to any new Android want to be Root user....
read read read read read.....read everything, even read post from other device forums. Google and read, youtube and watch.
put it all together in your head, on paper, on a spreadsheet whatever works for you....and educate yourself Before you Root and Rom.
Also remember, everything you do to your phone is your responsibility, not anyone on xda or anywhere else.
Best way to avoid problems, read and learn before you attempt.
My first Root and Rom I had read for weeks before I even looked at my phone funny.
And it's good to ask questions, just try and find an answer before you ask, most of the time it has been asked and answered already. If not here then on sites like RootzWiki or Droid Forums....just use Google.
Good luck! and welcome to Android and xda

Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.

Dont even worry... it all gets better. We got a great helpful community and amazing devs. And if your scared of bricking, we got ODIN which can fix "almost" any problems

I am in an eerily similar situation. iPhone 2g --> iPhone 3g --> iPhone 3gs all since 2007-2008. Finally got an android phone and went with the Skyrocket. I have always been a techy, but, aside from a modded HP touchpad, have very limited experience with Android.
I rooted my phone after about two weeks. I read SO FREAKING MUCH about options, bricking potential, this still flash counter thing that att/samsung do, etc. I even have a buddy that has been an android fanboy since day one (computer science major).
I mainly wanted to root so that I could a) enable wifi tethering b) freeze bloatware (NOT uninstall), c) download apps from AARRRGGG locations and d) to simply learn how
I am personally waiting until ICS comes out before I try any custom roms. Until then, just learning everything I can.
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
Side note/Threadjack: one thing I am trying to find out is if ALL SGSII USB Jigs work with the SGSII Skyrocket. About to buy one just to have onhand...just incase, haha.

WickR1 said:
New guy here to Android. I had an LG Thrill for about a month and a half and decided to take it back and pick up the Skyrocket. I've been using an iPhone 3GS for the last 2 years, so this is all new to me. Already getting into the customizing, but haven't dove into rooting yet. Seems like there's so many different ones, that I get overwhelmed and decide not to root the phone. Any suggestions?
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Believe me, you want to root, it really does open up much more customization, like custom ROM's, and more.

hooha23 said:
AARRRGGG = what type of people say AARRRGGG?
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Pirates my friend. Pirates. LOLS.
As for rooting and rom development, pretty much everyone has given you the best advice you can get. Before rooting, always ask yourself why would you need to root your phone. Its really unnecessary to root your device if you dont really dont know anything about your device nor do you know what rooting does. Save yourself the trouble and stay with your stock rom as its probably the most stable thing for you. Until you start reading some threads, watch some videos, and read some more, then you will probably find some reason to get your device rooted and install some great roms that these developers have created for our phones.

Just make sure you flash a rom specific to skyrocket. Anything else will most likely brick your phone.

WickR1 said:
Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'm big on doing research before I jump into something (especially electronic things). I'll keep reading stuff and seeing what I can find. I know it won't happen for a while, just wanted to see what was out there, and if it was easy as jailbreaking, which it doesn't look like it is. I'm sure it's easy for you guys, but for a n00b like me, it's a bit overwhelming.
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It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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Here is an excellent place to start your reading.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427268
And as the others said search before asking. But if u need help ask. Theres pleanty of kind folks on here who will steer you in the right direction. If you ask nicely,
And you can pm me if you need help. I dont mind if anyone pm's me when they need help.

GeezyF.Ladies said:
It's funny you say that we say that it's easy but not for a "noob" because just a few Weeks I was saying the exact same thing! Just read our forum and you can see my posts. I had been with iPhone since 2007 got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the rocket on the day it came out. Then came here around the week before Christmas knowing I wanted to tether, get rid of bloat and cool themes. Like mortem said read read and read some more. And these Sammy's of ours are hard to brick lol but it's not impossible. There are so many kind folks here just remember to read first ask later good luck bud!
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I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Mortem Tuam said:
I also come from iphone. Had the 3G, 3Gs and 4...... All jailbroken. But even jailbroken the customizing was limited. So I came to Android.
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Haha and jailbreaking is so easy but like you said it's still limited.
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How far behind am I?

I haven't had to root anything since the Evo 4g I used to have and its been shoved in a backpack with an extended battery for the past 2 years. I had several G1's, several old school Nexus devices and 3 or 4 Captivates. Couple of HTC devices thron in for good measure too.
I work for AppleCare and have had an iphone for the past 3 years but its gotten to the point where they are basically, blah. Just...nothing special about them. Long story short, i traded a 6 plus for my new S7 and couldn't be happier.
Questions: How afr out of the loop am I? I've used Odin but it was new when I stopped flashing.
-Is there anyting to gain from flashing/rooting besides debloating?? That was the main reason several years ago, that and trying to OC the processors. Hell, with quad cores and 4 gigs, who needs to OC anymore?? lol
Anyway, hope that makes sense and I look forward to being an active member once again.

thegreatkazoo said:
I haven't had to root anything since the Evo 4g I used to have and its been shoved in a backpack with an extended battery for the past 2 years. I had several G1's, several old school Nexus devices and 3 or 4 Captivates. Couple of HTC devices thron in for good measure too.
I work for AppleCare and have had an iphone for the past 3 years but its gotten to the point where they are basically, blah. Just...nothing special about them. Long story short, i traded a 6 plus for my new S7 and couldn't be happier.
Questions: How afr out of the loop am I? I've used Odin but it was new when I stopped flashing.
-Is there anyting to gain from flashing/rooting besides debloating?? That was the main reason several years ago, that and trying to OC the processors. Hell, with quad cores and 4 gigs, who needs to OC anymore?? lol
Anyway, hope that makes sense and I look forward to being an active member once again.
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First off let me say welcome back to the awesome side
As to what you're missing, it really depends on what you need from your device. While most of the features you'd need root to obtain are now a part of stock android, there are still a few things missing like ad blocking, or an awesome sound mod like v4a. And even then, some root apps/mods don't play nicely with Touchwiz.
My advice is to browse though the s7 forums and see if anything entices you that's worth rooting for.

Freewander10 said:
First off let me say welcome back to the awesome side
As to what you're missing, it really depends on what you need from your device. While most of the features you'd need root to obtain are now a part of stock android, there are still a few things missing like ad blocking, or an awesome sound mod like v4a. And even then, some root apps/mods don't play nicely with Touchwiz.
My advice is to browse though the s7 forums and see if anything entices you that's worth rooting for.
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its good to be back. mt wife still has her 6 plus but she's swapping it tomorrow for an s8. shes hella excited.
i remember tethering being a huge driver for rooting becuase carriers didnt see the usage. I have 14 gigs of hot spot that doesn't use my actual cell data so i don't guess i need to root. lol
I would love get all the crap off and go vanilla Nougat but i doubt its possible at this time. Thats about all i would want. pure google.

thegreatkazoo said:
its good to be back. mt wife still has her 6 plus but she's swapping it tomorrow for an s8. shes hella excited.
i remember tethering being a huge driver for rooting becuase carriers didnt see the usage. I have 14 gigs of hot spot that doesn't use my actual cell data so i don't guess i need to root. lol
I would love get all the crap off and go vanilla Nougat but i doubt its possible at this time. Thats about all i would want. pure google.
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I believe the s7 forums have a decent amount of stable AOSP ROMs. I've not been over there in a while but you can take a look.
Vanilla android is very possible to obtain. But you might need to get your hands a bit dirty. As you're probably aware how tightly Samsung has been locking down "their" devices as of late.

Freewander10 said:
I believe the s7 forums have a decent amount of stable AOSP ROMs. I've not been over there in a while but you can take a look.
Vanilla android is very possible to obtain. But you might need to get your hands a bit dirty. As you're probably aware how tightly Samsung has been locking down "their" devices as of late.
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oh yea. I've kept up with all the news about locking bootloaders and what not. wish they would just put vanilla on them and just sell the phone for what it is, a phone. i don't mind getting dirty to be honest.
i remember when the capivates first came out they were supposed to be unbrickable. come to find out, they could be bricked, but a guy on here made a rig with a diode in a usb csble and it unbricked it. that was some cool stuff. lol

thegreatkazoo said:
oh yea. I've kept up with all the news about locking bootloaders and what not. wish they would just put vanilla on them and just sell the phone for what it is, a phone. i don't mind getting dirty to be honest.
i remember when the capivates first came out they were supposed to be unbrickable. come to find out, they could be bricked, but a guy on here made a rig with a diode in a usb csble and it unbricked it. that was some cool stuff. lol
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I hear TW isn't as bad as it was once. But I guess that's subjective. I do agree with you though. And stock android would just fly on Samsung's hardware.
Those were the days.
The users here on xda have always found a way. Whether it be unlocking a device's BL, rooting it, unbricking it, or even bricking it
They've done it all.

Freewander10 said:
I hear TW isn't as bad as it was once. But I guess that's subjective. I do agree with you though. And stock android would just fly on Samsung's hardware.
Those were the days.
The users here on xda have always found a way. Whether it be unlocking a device's BL, rooting it, unbricking it, or even bricking it
They've done it all.
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i honestly love this phone.
its quick, great camera, expandable storage and looks awesome. I've got a 128 gig sd card in right now but ill be picking up another card so this one can go back in my laptop.
i have never minded touchwiz but its came a long way. a long long way.
one thing i would love to do, since i tether so much, is to have a tether option on the home screen(like a little switch) instead of having to go into settings-connections-tether in order to turn it on.

thegreatkazoo said:
i honestly love this phone.
its quick, great camera, expandable storage and looks awesome. I've got a 128 gig sd card in right now but ill be picking up another card so this one can go back in my laptop.
i have never minded touchwiz but its came a long way. a long long way.
one thing i would love to do, since i tether so much, is to have a tether option on the home screen(like a little switch) instead of having to go into settings-connections-tether in order to turn it on.
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I'm actually planning on getting one myself. Further down in the year though. The device is absolutely beautiful.
Most of the toggles/widgets on the playstore are dated. So they might not support newer versions of android. Especially the heavily modded TW. This app looks fairly recent though. So give it a shot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc

Freewander10 said:
I'm actually planning on getting one myself. Further down in the year though. The device is absolutely beautiful.
Most of the toggles/widgets on the playstore are dated. So they might not support newer versions of android. Especially the heavily modded TW. This app looks fairly recent though. So give it a shot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc
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i just want to be able to flip a switch and turn on tethering. lol
no more, no less.