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Hey guys,
after some research I found one suggestion that I can't test yet so maybe until my battery runs out one of you can help me:
I unlocked my TF300T ICS 4.0.3 and had CWM running. Probably because of some mistakes of mine it stopped booting at some point and now I can't access recovery, Fastboot, and when I was able to get into CWM, the internal storage didn't work, which is where the NAND backup was stored. Now it only shows the flat white ASUS logo with "device is unlocked" in the corner. When I try to turn it off it automatically reboots.
ADB shell can't find the device so I'm all out of ideas, except that I just read that that once it runs out of battery life the bootloader automatically resets. Maybe that'll help.
Does anybody have any ideas as to how or if I can actually fix this mess?
crstn said:
Hey guys,
after some research I found one suggestion that I can't test yet so maybe until my battery runs out one of you can help me:
I unlocked my TF300T ICS 4.0.3 and had CWM running. Probably because of some mistakes of mine it stopped booting at some point and now I can't access recovery, Fastboot, and when I was able to get into CWM, the internal storage didn't work, which is where the NAND backup was stored. Now it only shows the flat white ASUS logo with "device is unlocked" in the corner. When I try to turn it off it automatically reboots.
ADB shell can't find the device so I'm all out of ideas, except that I just read that that once it runs out of battery life the bootloader automatically resets. Maybe that'll help.
Does anybody have any ideas as to how or if I can actually fix this mess?
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I let mine discharge all the way, and then I recharged it. I can confirm that it does NOT reset the bootloader.
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I let mine discharge all the way, and then I recharged it. I can confirm that it does NOT reset the bootloader.
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Ya it didnt work for me either. So is that thing bricked or what? :/
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Ya it didnt work for me either. So is that thing bricked or what? :/
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Well, not totally. We are going to need a whole lot of help though to be able to get bootloader flashed. We can access the device via APX. I think we need the partition table information and the secure bootloader keys (which ASUS has to release to us) in order to use NvFlash to flash the bootloader. Word is that the developers who came up with this procedure for the TF201 are working on this, and have been for a couple of months. Hopefully, a bunch of people bricking their devices all of the sudden will turn up the urgency on this. I'm not holding my breath, but I am keeping my fingers crossed!
Happened to me too. I'm hoping that ASUS will fix it for a reasonable price. Otherwise I'm just going to get a Nexus 7.
Count me in on the bricked parade. Except I did mine a while back. I may be missing something but how do you get to APX mode? I just reformatted my computer so I haven't got drivers or ADB set up yet. I probably should try before asking, however I don't ever remember getting into it before.
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enomele said:
Count me in on the bricked parade. Except I did mine a while back. I may be missing something but how do you get to APX mode? I just reformatted my computer so I haven't got drivers or ADB set up yet. I probably should try before asking, however I don't ever remember getting into it before.
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You can get in to APX mode by switching it on, holding the volume up button and than use the pinhole reset while keeping the volume up button pressed. If you have it connected to your PC, it will show up. No drivers tho, so it probably won't bring you far.
The problem with waiting for an NVFLASH solution is that we probably need an adapted bootloader to start with for it to work. Since its impossible to make any changes to it without fastboot, I wonder if any solution will become availlable. I will wait another month or so, and then send it to ASUS if no solution is provided here.
I'm sure the costs for repair will be less than the $200 that the nexus costs (and to be true, although the Nexus is a great machine, it's not comparable to the wonderful TF300 )
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You can get in to APX mode by switching it on, holding the volume up button and than use the pinhole reset while keeping the volume up button pressed. If you have it connected to your PC, it will show up. No drivers tho, so it probably won't bring you far.
The problem with waiting for an NVFLASH solution is that we probably need an adapted bootloader to start with for it to work. Since its impossible to make any changes to it without fastboot, I wonder if any solution will become availlable. I will wait another month or so, and then send it to ASUS if no solution is provided here.
I'm sure the costs for repair will be less than the $200 that the nexus costs (and to be true, although the Nexus is a great machine, it's not comparable to the wonderful TF300 )
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I was quoted between $87 and $100 to "repair the OS" on my tablet. It's still at the Asus RMA center, so I have no update on what they did with it. I've been posting progress over in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1825265&page=3
Yeah, I saw your posts somewhere else as well... All the best, I've been hearing horror-stories about having to replace the mainboard etc. That would be a bit too much, I imagine :-|
just a quick update:
i sent the transformer back to amazon and they took it back no questions asked.
phew...
Same happened to me, I sent it to Asus about a month ago, they just replayed to me with a mail, saying that is out of warranty because of the bootloader unlocked, and that is gonna cost me $122 for the mainboard, and $65 for labor, it seems that the mainboard got really bad bricked, and they are replacing it....
Really bad for me, but at least I would have it back...
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Well, not totally. We are going to need a whole lot of help though to be able to get bootloader flashed. We can access the device via APX. I think we need the partition table information and the secure bootloader keys (which ASUS has to release to us) in order to use NvFlash to flash the bootloader. Word is that the developers who came up with this procedure for the TF201 are working on this, and have been for a couple of months. Hopefully, a bunch of people bricking their devices all of the sudden will turn up the urgency on this. I'm not holding my breath, but I am keeping my fingers crossed!
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Unfortunately NVflash will only run on unbricked ICS Bootloader devices. You have to flash some files before you can use the special APX for TF300. So if you are already bricked it will not help.
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Yeah, I saw your posts somewhere else as well... All the best, I've been hearing horror-stories about having to replace the mainboard etc. That would be a bit too much, I imagine :-|
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I've just been quoted $122 + $65 + $10 shipping. Which comes out to a shade under $200 total.
End of the line, folks.
I'm not paying Asus $200 to fix a $300 tablet, and I'm basically going to be throwing in the trash at this point if I get it back.
I'm getting a bursary payment from my university on Thursday and I was planning on using the money to buy the parts for a new computer then, but I've now decided to wait till next month and put some of the money from said payment towards buying an Infinity instead as a early birthday present for myself as well as using it as a device for reading relevant materials for my Computer Studies degree (That, plus it looks like it'll make a great device for viewing HD anime fansubs as well! ^_^)
In the meantime, do any of the members here in this forum who own the device have any advice for a new owner, such as what's the best custom ROM, the best accessories, how to make it the best it can be, etc?
First of all: 'This is an awesome tablet.
But you will soon discover that the stock ROM has sad and perplexing limitations.
If you plan to unlock and flash a custom Rom anyway, my vote goes for CROMI!
It's based on the stock ROM, but much, much better!
On stock this tab crawls, on CROMI it flies, it's stable and incredibly well supported.
Just follow the CROMI threads in the Development, General and Help sections for a while and you'll see what I mean....
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
berndblb said:
First of all: 'This is an awesome tablet.
But you will soon discover that the stock ROM has sad and perplexing limitations.
If you plan to unlock and flash a custom Rom anyway, my vote goes for CROMI!
It's based on the stock ROM, but much, much better!
On stock this tab crawls, on CROMI it flies, it's stable and incredibly well supported.
Just follow the CROMI threads in the Development, General and Help sections for a while and you'll see what I mean....
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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I'll be sure to check CROMI out if it's that good. How does it compare to other ROMS such as Cyanogenmod?
I second the suggestion of CROMI. I just unlocked my tablet over the weekend and there is a MASSIVE difference in how fast apps load and especially PDFs (from a Class 10 MicroSD, of course) and browser performance. I still have to explore Data2SD, but I've heard good things about that too.
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I'll be sure to check CROMI out if it's that good. How does it compare to other ROMS such as Cyanogenmod?
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I would check out the relevant threads on this forum. In the end it is a matter of taste and preference.
I have not tried Cyanogenmod and I don't see any reason to do so. My tab runs perfectly on CROMI.
I cannot imagine it running better on another ROM.
CROMl is based on the Asus stock ROM, CWM is build from the ground up. From what I hear and read, this fact seems to make CWM prone to more bugs and hardware Conflicts. But that's just my opinion...
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I'll be sure to check CROMI out if it's that good. How does it compare to other ROMS such as Cyanogenmod?
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I can confirm you really need to root it, otherwise buy another tablet!
Once you are rooted, it's a great device.
I used Cromi for a week and it's good and fast, no doubt about it.
For me personally performance is not only about speed, but also about customize options and for that reason I flashed Baked BlackBean 8 and I will not flash anything else for a while. It's without a doubt the best ROM if you like AOKP roms. If your not familiar with I suggest to start with Cromi! Like said above, support is amazing, to be fair it's the only thread 'alive' in de TF700 forum compared to One X forum.
Btw: I didn't try CM10, but support there is also great from Dasunsrule
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My suggestion would be to use it and use it well for the first month or two to make sure the hardware is functioning properly before going the custom ROM route. The reason for this is you will have to unlock it to flash a custom recovery and ROM, and this will void your warranty.
If something goes wrong after you have unlocked you are SOL for warranty coverage.
borgmanjayce said:
I'm getting a bursary payment from my university on Thursday and I was planning on using the money to buy the parts for a new computer then, but I've now decided to wait till next month and put some of the money from said payment towards buying an Infinity instead as a early birthday present for myself as well as using it as a device for reading relevant materials for my Computer Studies degree (That, plus it looks like it'll make a great device for viewing HD anime fansubs as well! ^_^)
In the meantime, do any of the members here in this forum who own the device have any advice for a new owner, such as what's the best custom ROM, the best accessories, how to make it the best it can be, etc?
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1. Try and get NvFlash working. A safety is ALWAYS a good thing (you especially value that when you have a military background. ).
2. Unlock, and flash a custom ROM -- stock ROM sucks Major Balls' ass..
My preference is CROMI -- it's stock-based so you have the quick access features, full IPS+ support, full dock support, etc. that some other custom ROMs may struggle with (and even if stable now, they may get to struggle with them as new Android versions arrive on the stage). It does come down to preference, as the rest said, too. You cannot go really, absolutely wrong.
3. I had a rather thick leather case -- it might have been rendering too much pressure on the connections between the tablet and the dock (I still have to find out what caused the breakdown of the docking clamps... <ggrrrr>). I'd suggest either going 'naked' for a while (be careful not to let it tip backwards!) or get a really thin "foil case" (some are referenced in the Accessories forum).
4. Give data2sd some consideration -- that means getting yourself a nice, big, blazingly fast microSD card -- again: off to the Accessories forum you go.
5. With a little time, you'll be tinkering along with us, and get to arrive to the main point: enjoyment.
I just want to thank everybody who's posted here and offered some really great advice so far.
I'll definitely be installing CROMI and taking my time with the device when I finally get hold of it on Thursday.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Galaxy Tab 10.1 but I decided to get an upgrade as it was running out of space plus I was getting frustrated with the lack of a MicroSD card slot so I could transfer apps to a card as well as put media files on it.
borgmanjayce said:
I just want to thank everybody who's posted here and offered some really great advice so far.
I'll definitely be installing CROMI and taking my time with the device when I finally get hold of it on Thursday.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Galaxy Tab 10.1 but I decided to get an upgrade as it was running out of space plus I was getting frustrated with the lack of a MicroSD card slot so I could transfer apps to a card as well as put media files on it.
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Marty had some great advice actually. When you get your tablet, first thing: check your firmware version. If you're lucky it comes with ICS, firmware version ending in .26.
If that is the case: Do not update right away! Search XDA for how to make a NVflash backup.
If you have that, your tab is unbrickable = peace of mind.
I didn't know that and upgraded to JB right away (groan).
But I believe .26 is the last firmware version where you can use the NVflash tool. ICS .30 is already too late...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
berndblb said:
Marty had some great advice actually. When you get your tablet, first thing: check your firmware version. If you're lucky it comes with ICS, firmware version ending in .26.
If that is the case: Do not update right away! Search XDA for how to make a NVflash backup.
If you have that, your tab is unbrickable = peace of mind.
I didn't know that and upgraded to JB right away (groan).
But I believe .26 is the last firmware version where you can use the NVflash tool. ICS .30 is already too late...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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I'm actually blushing.
The NvFlash procedure was a definite PITA -- it took me an entire evening and a few hours from the night to quit in frustration, only to try a different USB port the next morning and getting it to work right away. As you said, you'll really have to do your best and be extremely unlucky in order to brick it once you have your backups safely tucked away.
I really do find it extremely annoying that ASUS had decided to block NvFlash on the newer firmwares/bootloaders -- I fail to see any advantage in doing so. Now, they'll have more people sending in bricks that could've been easily recovered in the safety and comfort of the owner's own home, and their rather dense (in the sense of stupid) repair center/customer service is overwhelmed already. (People have been mentioning receiving their 700s from the repair center after having run through the RMA procedure twice -- :S -- without the issue actually having been solved [private communication].
Useless gits.
UPDATE: I managed to place a order with Amazon UK yesterday for a 64GB MicroSD card (Class 10 of course) as well as a Caseen Perfecto case for the Infinity itself as well as a computer case for the HTPC that I'll be building next month.
As for the Infinity itself, I was planning on buying it through Currys today via their Pickup and Collect option, but for some reason the option wasn't available at all and not only that, they didn't even offer a next-day delivery option to where I live in the UK, so I decided to order a used version from Amazon UK instead for £504.99 (which I'll be thoroughly testing and checking out before rooting it later on). In fact, I think Currys ended up doing me a favor as I've now saved £95.00 on the retail price for the 64GB version instead of the £50.01 that I would have saved if I had managed to buy it brand new from Currys today!
It's a bit of a shame that I'll have to wait till tomorrow to have it delivered (for free, thanks to Amazon Prime), but I know it'll be worth the wait at the end of the day.
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Good to hear you decided to take the plunge and join our merry bunch. I do hope that delivery is swift and all arrives well, and that you get a perfect Infinity!
By the way, in addition to my earlier reply: I have been testing data2sd lately, and it does make a significant difference, especially with (un)installation of appd and web browsing. Something to keep in mind; you may regard this as an additional recommendation, hahaha!
MartyHulskemper said:
Good to hear you decided to take the plunge and join our merry bunch. I do hope that delivery is swift and all arrives well, and that you get a perfect Infinity!
By the way, in addition to my earlier reply: I have been testing data2sd lately, and it does make a significant difference, especially with (un)installation of appd and web browsing. Something to keep in mind; you may regard this as an additional recommendation, hahaha!
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If you do decide to root it in the end, ensure that you install "Browser2Ram", this significantly increased the performance of the stock browser.
Before rooting the native browser would crash with just about every webpage that was a bit overpopulated with script.
Bought myself an infinity tf700t - also my first post
Hi to all
thought it was time I scrapped my chinese Tablet and bought something more powerful, bit of an impulse buy but it did not cost me too much as purchased from E***, 1 dead pixel but actually has 3, I am not too bothered at the moment, it did occur to me that I could probably get this repaired under warranty, cant be more than a year old, would Asus honor this, would I have to provide receipts, anyone know where I stand in regards to this, I really do like the tablet, it is responsive and screen looks good,internet is really quick, be good to know what other things this bad boy can do, what I would like to ask is what apps would you all recommend and if anyone has found a decent case and cover for both components. I have been reading all the posts on custom roms, that might be a little bit beyond me as I have no experience of this. also read that it is only possible if tablet is running ICS, my is on JB 4.1.1
there was another question I wanted to ask, does this device allow for tethering to my iphone so I can use the 3g capabilities, and how is this done if possible, please make it simple as I am a bit of a Noob. as you have gathered I do need some help unleashing the power of my new toys, interested to hear anything or any suggestions, best apps, I would be extremely grateful and many thanks in advance. have a good day guys.
Kind Regards
Paul:
I finally got hold of the device a few hours ago and it definitely is a really nice device... Unfortunately, it seems that the one I got from Amazon UK has the Jellybean firmware so it looks like I'll have to downgrade then upgrade before rooting and adding a custom rom to it.
Can anybody point me in the right direction on how to downgrade then upgrade? The build number according to the device is "JR003C WW_epad 10.4.4.18-20121012".
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cholo777 said:
there was another question I wanted to ask, does this device allow for tethering to my iphone so I can use the 3g capabilities, and how is this done if possible, please make it simple as I am a bit of a Noob. as you have gathered I do need some help unleashing the power of my new toys, interested to hear anything or any suggestions, best apps, I would be extremely grateful and many thanks in advance. have a good day guys.
Kind Regards
Paul:
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I tether mine regularly to my Motorola RAZR (Android based). I don't know how the iPhone identifies the wireless network it makes available when tethering. Once you find that out, you just connect the tablet to it, entering a password if you set it up that way. From then on, that connection should be remembered for easy connection.
- Ed
borgmanjayce said:
Unfortunately, it seems that the one I got from Amazon UK has the Jellybean firmware so it looks like I'll have to downgrade then upgrade before rooting and adding a custom rom to it.
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If you want to unlock anyway, you don't need to downgrade.
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If you want to unlock anyway, you don't need to downgrade.
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I thought you needed to downgrade to unlock before rooting?
borgmanjayce said:
I thought you needed to downgrade to unlock before rooting?
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If you want to unlock, you don't need to downgrade, and you don't need to root - just unlock and install a custom pre-rooted ROM.
If you want to root without unlocking, you need to downgrade to 9.4.4.30, root, and use OTA Rootkeeper and incremental dlkpgfile updates to get back to JB.
Hi to all
thought it was time I scrapped my chinese Tablet and bought something more powerful, bit of an impulse buy but it did not cost me too much as purchased from E***, 1 dead pixel but actually has 3, I am not too bothered at the moment, it did occur to me that I could probably get this repaired under warranty, cant be more than a year old, would Asus honor this, would I have to provide receipts, anyone know where I stand in regards to this, I really do like the tablet, it is responsive and screen looks good,internet is really quick, be good to know what other things this bad boy can do, what I would like to ask is what apps would you all recommend and if anyone has found a decent case and cover for both components. I have been reading all the posts on custom roms, that might be a little bit beyond me as I have no experience of this. also read that it is only possible if tablet is running ICS, my is on JB 4.1.1
there was another question I wanted to ask, does this device allow for tethering to my iphone so I can use the 3g capabilities, and how is this done if possible, please make it simple as I am a bit of a Noob. as you have gathered I do need some help unleashing the power of my new toys, interested to hear anything or any suggestions, best apps, I would be extremely grateful and many thanks in advance. have a good day guys.
Kind Regards
Paul
cholo777 said:
Hi to all
thought it was time I scrapped my chinese Tablet and bought something more powerful, bit of an impulse buy but it did not cost me too much as purchased from E***, 1 dead pixel but actually has 3, I am not too bothered at the moment, it did occur to me that I could probably get this repaired under warranty, cant be more than a year old, would Asus honor this, would I have to provide receipts, anyone know where I stand in regards to this,
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I wouldn't count on ASUS fixing it under warranty -- I don't know where you are based, but in the EU the onus is on the owner to prove manufacturer's fault in case of damage after the first 6 months after purchase. I don't know how easy that'd be. If they do not bother you to a significant extent, I probably would not send it in, even if only because because of the insane amount of ASUS charges for intake alone, by which is added the insane repair costs.
I really do like the tablet, it is responsive and screen looks good,internet is really quick, be good to know what other things this bad boy can do, what I would like to ask is what apps would you all recommend
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There's an entire thread on the apps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764480
There's just too much info to be replicated here. Give it a look.
and if anyone has found a decent case and cover for both components.
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We have an Accessories forum -- do not mean this rude, mind you -- here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1664
I do not mean to be unkind, but there's just too much info there, and we do have segregated forums for a reason. (I think.)
I have been reading all the posts on custom roms, that might be a little bit beyond me as I have no experience of this.
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Easy does it -- pnly step into customization once you're ready for it. A lot of owners are perfectly happy with the stock device. Once you go that route, however, you will not use stock ever again.
also read that it is only possible if tablet is running ICS, my is on JB 4.1.1
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You can actually downgrade, but that's relatively "advanced". Feel the water first.
there was another question I wanted to ask, does this device allow for tethering to my iphone so I can use the 3g capabilities, and how is this done if possible,
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I tether to my (Android) SGS2 all the time, I don't know it this would be possible. If you read this in a timely fashion, run and hide before the onslaught of iHate. Hahaha! J/k -- we're generally nice people.
please make it simple as I am a bit of a Noob. as you have gathered I do need some help unleashing the power of my new toys, interested to hear anything or any suggestions, best apps, I would be extremely grateful and many thanks in advance. have a good day guys.
Kind Regards
Paul
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I'm inclined to throw in a Deckard Cain quote... "Stay a while and listen!" <repeat 30 times>
cholo777 said:
Hi to all
thought it was time I scrapped my chinese Tablet and bought something more powerful, bit of an impulse buy but it did not cost me too much as purchased from E***, 1 dead pixel but actually has 3, I am not too bothered at the moment, it did occur to me that I could probably get this repaired under warranty, cant be more than a year old, would Asus honor this, would I have to provide receipts, anyone know where I stand in regards to this, I really do like the tablet, it is responsive and screen looks good,internet is really quick, be good to know what other things this bad boy can do, what I would like to ask is what apps would you all recommend and if anyone has found a decent case and cover for both components. I have been reading all the posts on custom roms, that might be a little bit beyond me as I have no experience of this. also read that it is only possible if tablet is running ICS, my is on JB 4.1.1
there was another question I wanted to ask, does this device allow for tethering to my iphone so I can use the 3g capabilities, and how is this done if possible, please make it simple as I am a bit of a Noob. as you have gathered I do need some help unleashing the power of my new toys, interested to hear anything or any suggestions, best apps, I would be extremely grateful and many thanks in advance. have a good day guys.
Kind Regards
Paul
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I doubt that the warranty would be covered, you would probably have to pay for a replacement screen.Also, have you tried restarting it and putting a fresh flash of the stock rom on it? I have had pixels go out but they turn back on after a reboot or two. Before ever considering flashing a custom rom make sure you read through the forums!!! Many here will help you . I am new to flashing and stuff as well and did a month research here before I attempted to flash any roms and I had no problems. I tether my iphone 3gs to my tablet but my iphone is jailbroken and I use PDANET so I can tether it through wifi and then it allows laptops and other devices without bluetooth to tether as well. I found the most helpful is reading threads about people who have bricked their devices. I am not happy their tf700 became bricked but by reading through you can find out why it was bricked and to know to never make their mistake.
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I doubt that the warranty would be covered, you would probably have to pay for a replacement screen.Also, have you tried restarting it and putting a fresh flash of the stock rom on it? I have had pixels go out but they turn back on after a reboot or two. Before ever considering flashing a custom rom make sure you read through the forums!!! Many here will help you . I am new to flashing and stuff as well and did a month research here before I attempted to flash any roms and I had no problems. I tether my iphone 3gs to my tablet but my iphone is jailbroken and I use PDANET so I can tether it through wifi and then it allows laptops and other devices without bluetooth to tether as well. I found the most helpful is reading threads about people who have bricked their devices. I am not happy their tf700 became bricked but by reading through you can find out why it was bricked and to know to never make their mistake.
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+1 --
Dumb people do not learn from their own mistakes;
smart people learn form their own mistakes;
really clever people learn from other people's mistakes.
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really clever people learn from other people's mistakes.
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Quoted for truth!
MartyHulskemper said:
I wouldn't count on ASUS fixing it under warranty -- I don't know where you are based, but in the EU the onus is on the owner to prove manufacturer's fault in case of damage after the first 6 months after purchase. I don't know how easy that'd be. If they do not bother you to a significant extent, I probably would not send it in, even if only because because of the insane amount of ASUS charges for intake alone, by which is added the insane repair costs.There's an entire thread on the apps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764480
There's just too much info to be replicated here. Give it a look. We have an Accessories forum -- do not mean this rude, mind you -- here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1664
I do not mean to be unkind, but there's just too much info there, and we do have segregated forums for a reason. (I think.)Easy does it -- pnly step into customization once you're ready for it. A lot of owners are perfectly happy with the stock device. Once you go that route, however, you will not use stock ever again. You can actually downgrade, but that's relatively "advanced". Feel the water first. I tether to my (Android) SGS2 all the time, I don't know it this would be possible. If you read this in a timely fashion, run and hide before the onslaught of iHate. Hahaha! J/k -- we're generally nice people. I'm inclined to throw in a Deckard Cain quote... "Stay a while and listen!" <repeat 30 times>
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Many thanks for the replies, really helpful, I have also noticed another problem with the tablet.
Power up problem.
hold down power button,it vibrates after a few seconds but nothing appears on the screen, if I attempt again, I have to hold it longer and then it vibrates again, this goes on for maybe 4-5 attempts before the thing boots, what is doing this,lol, so what i do now which is quite annoying, I just hold down the power button until the logo appears, maybe 1-2 minutes before it boots. tried a reset and a cold boot but still does it, any help would be great. have a great weekend everyone.
kind Regards
Paul
How are you shutting it down? I know sometimes when I would go to shut down, it wont shut down all the way and it requires me to force it off. However the vibration is an indicator of the tablet turning on/off. I never really had a problem with this as when I shut it down, if it dont vibrate like after 10 secs the screen goes off, I force shut it down, this is when it vibrates. Then I just hold the power button down and it boots up fine. Which is indicated by another vibration.
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hold down power button,it vibrates after a few seconds but nothing appears on the screen
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Make sure you don't accidentally hold down the volume-up button. That would enter APX mode, which does what you describe (and it enables a low-level USB recovery protocol).
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
jonlad1 said:
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
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Hi, and welcome to the community!
First things first: check the unit thoroughly for the known issues (screen bleed, loose screen bonding, etc. Several threads in here concerning the most frequent issues.
1) If you happen to get a pre-.30 firmware (which is unlikely at this point in time), install Nvflash first and pull the backups. That might save you form not only severe headaches but a pretty stack of dollars too, if the excrement hits the ventilator.
2) Try and see if the unlock tool works. In a relatively large percentage of 700s, it doesn't. That would solve your problem instantly. (You can then proceed to update to the latest stock ROM, but no custom ROM'in' for you then. That << smiley is actually very mean, because that would be some major suck.)
3) Whatever you do, ONLY use the most recent versions of whatever recovery has your preference. Also update the bootloader to the version your ROM of choice requires!
4) Unless you have extensive experience with flashing and ROMs in general, it might be prudent to pick a stock-based ROM (i.e. CROMI-X). If you comfortable with the odd bug here and there, you might try an AOSP/AOKP/CM-based ROM and see if they fit your bill.
CROMI-X has a great OP with all the updates to bootloader and such you'll need.
5) Don't do anything if you're not sure when starting out. The 700 is not particularly easy to brick, but it is relatively hard to fix in some cases that on other devices (Samsung's comes to mind) would just mean reflashing some stuff (in Odin/Heimdall).
Have fun!
Marty
MartyHulskemper said:
Hi, and welcome to the community!
2) Try and see if the unlock tool works. In a relatively large percentage of 700s, it doesn't. That would solve your problem instantly. (You can then proceed to update to the latest stock ROM, but no custom ROM'in' for you then. That << smiley is actually very mean, because that would be some major suck.)
Marty
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Hey mate,
Thanks for the info
With the unlock tool, has anyone reported any issues from trying to use it? If it doesnt work, will it just say it didnt work? I cant brick from just using the tool can I?
Cheers!
jonlad1 said:
Hey mate,
Thanks for the info
With the unlock tool, has anyone reported any issues from trying to use it? If it doesnt work, will it just say it didnt work? I cant brick from just using the tool can I?
Cheers!
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If it doesn't work it just gives some error message. I haven't heard of anyone bricking because the unlock tool failed, so you should be safe there. As far as I'm aware the only issue you'll have from the unlock tool not working is just the fact that you're not going to be unlocked lol.
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jonlad1 said:
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
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I'm with Martin on this:
Until you are sure that your tab is not a lemon with major hardware issues I would not unlock it.
You can root it and start playing around with some more advanced settings in the meantime. Wouldn't it really suck if you unlocked and a day or week later the digitizer would go bad? Asus could say: Sorry, pal - you're unlocked, you're out of warranty.
They have repaired even unlocked devices under warranty, but you can't count on it. And in some cases the repaired tablet came back with a permanently locked bootloader....
So give it a few weeks, in the meantime start reading the relevant thread of your favorite custom ROM(s) to get a feel for them, and familiarize yourself with the process and lingo of flashing.
You could start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
I feel a little sheepish since we basically hijacked the original thread, but since the original topic is pretty much outdated and not active anymore, I guess it is ok. I kinda walked a user through the whole process of rooting/flashing a custom rom etc.
Start with post #191. In #193 I wrote a step-by-step guide which HeartWare42 fleshed out even more in post #220.
Note anything you don't understand and Google it.
Read 3 times, ask twice, flash once )
berndblb said:
I'm with Martin on this:
Until you are sure that your tab is not a lemon with major hardware issues I would not unlock it.
You can root it and start playing around with some more advanced settings in the meantime. Wouldn't it really suck if you unlocked and a day or week later the digitizer would go bad? Asus could say: Sorry, pal - you're unlocked, you're out of warranty.
They have repaired even unlocked devices under warranty, but you can't count on it. And in some cases the repaired tablet came back with a permanently locked bootloader....
So give it a few weeks, in the meantime start reading the relevant thread of your favorite custom ROM(s) to get a feel for them, and familiarize yourself with the process and lingo of flashing.
You could start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
I feel a little sheepish since we basically hijacked the original thread, but since the original topic is pretty much outdated and not active anymore, I guess it is ok. I kinda walked a user through the whole process of rooting/flashing a custom rom etc.
Start with post #191. In #193 I wrote a step-by-step guide which HeartWare42 fleshed out even more in post #220.
Note anything you don't understand and Google it.
Read 3 times, ask twice, flash once )
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Thanks for the info guys, I'll check the hardware first!
jonlad1 said:
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
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Hi there,
When I had bought my tf700 I did'nt have a clue what custom rom is.
I was totally naive and ignorant as to Android technology.
I was disappointed with my TF700 performance and lived with it for a couple of months.
Afterwards, I searched the internet until I have found this marvellous forum (which attracts OCDs like the fire attracts moth).
I read and read and read and read, and read more and asked the fine users of this fine forum if I got it all right,
and then one springy night on the end of March 2013, something happened.
A magic...
"I took the red pill" , unlocked my TF700, pushed TWRP and flashed CROMI.
Everything went super.
Ever since then I follow Sbdags CROMI-X thread and keep update my firmware.
Just to remind you - I am not a Computer wizard, my occupation has got almost nothing to do with electronics and I am not a kid (actually I am 37 with many obligations like family and work - so my spare time is scarce).
And here I am - master of my TF700!
So - everything is possible!
And if you follow instructions and restrict yourself to the right method - you can be rest assured you won't brick your device.
Actually It's like cooking: you should find a good recipe and act accordingly.
Cheers
So I finally got it delivered today
It looks good, no damage, screen bleed that i can see. Screen seems fine.
Its running JRO3C.US_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228
JB 4.1.1
I'm not really sure where to go from here - should I wait a few days or just unlock and put CROMI-X on now?
Speed of the system isnt bad, transitions seem a bit slow, havent really installed a bunch of apps yet...
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So I finally got it delivered today
It looks good, no damage, screen bleed that i can see. Screen seems fine.
Its running JRO3C.US_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228
JB 4.1.1
I'm not really sure where to go from here - should I wait a few days or just unlock and put CROMI-X on now?
Speed of the system isnt bad, transitions seem a bit slow, havent really installed a bunch of apps yet...
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You are itching to do it, right?
I can tell, you can hardly wait....
Well, the rational next step would be to wait a week, or two, or however long you can stand it, and then unlock etc.
But where's the fun in rational, right?
Well, while you decide - why not upgrade it to JB 4.2.1? Saves you a bootloader flash and clean install later....
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berndblb said:
You are itching to do it, right?
I can tell, you can hardly wait....
Well, the rational next step would be to wait a week, or two, or however long you can stand it, and then unlock etc.
But where's the fun in rational, right?
Well, while you decide - why not upgrade it to JB 4.2.1? Saves you a bootloader flash and clean install later....
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Is 4.2.1 worth the update? I read that 4.2.1 caused a few issues for some people....
I probably will just flash it It feels like it should run quicker, take Maps for example. seems REALLY laggy but on my N7 it was fine?
jonlad1 said:
Is 4.2.1 worth the update? I read that 4.2.1 caused a few issues for some people....
I probably will just flash it It feels like it should run quicker, take Maps for example. seems REALLY laggy but on my N7 it was fine?
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JB 4.2 was better for most people, others had issues with Bluetooth tethering and some other stuff...
The reason I recommend you upgrade to stock 4.2 is mainly that then you automatically would have the correct bootloader on our tablet.
For Cromi-X you need the 4.2 bootloader. If you are on 4.1 you have to flash it before you flash Cromi-X, if you are already on 4.2 you're good to go. One less thing that could go wrong....
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JB 4.2 was better for most people, others had issues with Bluetooth tethering and some other stuff...
The reason I recommend you upgrade to stock 4.2 is mainly that then you automatically would have the correct bootloader on our tablet.
For Cromi-X you need the 4.2 bootloader. If you are on 4.1 you have to flash it before you flash Cromi-X, if you are already on 4.2 you're good to go. One less thing that could go wrong....
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That makes sense, I'll get that updated tonight, cheers
Does CROMIx improve the laggy transitions/Maps/Browser?
jonlad1 said:
That makes sense, I'll get that updated tonight, cheers
Does CROMIx improve the laggy transitions/Maps/Browser?
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It improves e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g
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It improves e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g
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SOLD!
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SOLD!
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You will not be disappointed. Welcome to the OCFD corner.
Now that I think of it: http://hope4ocd.com/checklist.php is missing the "Needing the have the latest and greatest x.x.xxxxx version of your ROM", or "Needing to flash at least 5 ROMs a week". Can we petition that?
Hmm, I just tried to update via OTA and it said my system is up to date? I'm on 4.1.1?
EDIT - ok, updated manually. Trying to use the unlock tool but getting "Unkown Error. This may be a connection issue" - is that what'll happen if it's not gonna work for me?
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You could have got the Nook HD+ 32GB for $180 and dead easy to root and put CM 10.1 or Carbon on it and no concern of bricking it. Stock 2.1 on the HD+ is barely ok (very barely), but CM 10.1 rocks.
A little smaller tablet, but same great display resolution. I use this more than my iPad 4 now, which is both a compliment to the HD+ and an insult to how much I paid for the iPad 4.
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Hmm, I just tried to update via OTA and it said my system is up to date? I'm on 4.1.1?
EDIT - ok, updated manually. Trying to use the unlock tool but getting "Unkown Error. This may be a connection issue" - is that what'll happen if it's not gonna work for me?
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Personally, when I had this problem, I just tried to run the app every day for a week oe so and it eventually works, but others have had to use tricks. Use the search for unlock, you will find several ideas about fixing it.
Before the hate police flood my new thread - yes I have searched xda for the answer(s) - but haven't had any luck. I've searched for 2 weeks before writing this.
I did a stupid thing. My device is unlocked and rooted but still had the Asus OS and i tried to change the fonts. Now it won't get past the ASUS boot screen. I also don't get the 3 (or 4 or 5) icons that are supposed to come up.
I've tried the power/volume buttons, motochopper, the Asus unlock (probably unnecessary) and a number of other things my searches but no luck.
I'm trying to find a step-by-step guide that can possibly help me with my particular problem.
After I completely get it going again I am going to install Cyanogen or KKrombi or some other OS.
This is a process that I am famliar with and have been doing since my T-Mobile G1 to my OPO without problem, but this time I am stumped.
Thank you for your time and help. Just point me to another thread or something & I'll take it from there.
How did you try to change the fonts??
Never heard before that somebody hard bricked the tablet that way and that's what you did it seems. Hate to tell you this, but if you cannot get into the bootloader (screen with 3 icons) this tablet is toast.
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How did you try to change the fonts??
Never heard before that somebody hard bricked the tablet that way and that's what you did it seems. Hate to tell you this, but if you cannot get into the bootloader (screen with 3 icons) this tablet is toast.
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Bugger. I used Rom Manager to do it. It's funny I saw the icons once but not since.
Yeah bricked sounds right.
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Bugger. I used Rom Manager to do it. It's funny I saw the icons once but not since.
Yeah bricked sounds right.
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Yep, using ROM Manager has bricked quite a few of these babies. That explains it. Sorry man....
I know you mentioned using various tools already, but have you tried fastboot commands with it connected directly to your computer?
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It's something that I've tried but never been able to do it correctly - well not since my G1 - and that was step-by-step from Cyanogenmod pre-Inc.
Didn't see bernblb's second reply. If he says it is bricked, then it most likely is. I haven't toiled around on my TF700 for a long time now.
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Yeah it probably is. My own fault. Trouble is it really suited my wants and needs. Guess it's back to Swappa.