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Battery now dying...

So I'm like wtf all of a sudden my battery is like at 40% by noon, and I recharge and it gets to the same within a couple of hours }
I don't get it not even a year yet
BTW I'm stock froyo/ rooted
Bad battery ? Any one else experience this? I have juice defender set CPU
Battery stats say main cause is "cell standby" any tricks to fix this?
No I'm not going to gb
meh...

Well, in the end, that's the best that froyo can do for the G2X...
I had Froyo and i pulled off 6hrs, when i got GB i was able to pull off 8, so yea, juice defender really wouldn't give you that much more battery life, the best shot is to upgrade the ROM.

i would consider updating it :/ i've never had froyo but since i've been using gb i get 15+ hours out of my phone and that's with heavy texting, internet browsing, some netflix watching and a little gaming. but cell standby seems to be my biggest problem too i wish i could fix that

iasookia said:
Well, in the end, that's the best that froyo can do for the G2X...
I had Froyo and i pulled off 6hrs, when i got GB i was able to pull off 8, so yea, juice defender really wouldn't give you that much more battery life, the best shot is to upgrade the ROM.
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Running froyo I was getting at least 14-16 hours.
Usually bad battery life can be accredited to less-than-optimal user settings, heavy device usage, or there's a rogue app that's sucking your battery down.
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and as you can see i still have about half a battery left. the only precaution i really take is that my brightness is almost down to zero. and on my old phone it used to show in the battery settings if i used a certain application such as internet or ebuddy. i have no idea why it won't show those on this device so you can't see my heavy internet usage, gaming and some netflix watching.

and just for reference i'm running complete stock no root or anything. i'm now on one day and two hours worth of battery with 30% still left
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tokimaromi said:
and as you can see i still have about half a battery left. the only precaution i really take is that my brightness is almost down to zero. and on my old phone it used to show in the battery settings if i used a certain application such as internet or ebuddy. i have no idea why it won't show those on this device so you can't see my heavy internet usage, gaming and some netflix watching.
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I wish I got that kind of battery usage out of mine. Cell standby is just sucking everything it can out of my battery...

barqers said:
I wish I got that kind of battery usage out of mine. Cell standby is just sucking everything it can out of my battery...
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i hope someone can help you with that! cell standby is one of my worst battery suckers but obviously it's not doing too bad. it's still alive right now at 18% i'm trying to see how much i can milk it for

tokimaromi said:
i hope someone can help you with that! cell standby is one of my worst battery suckers but obviously it's not doing too bad. it's still alive right now at 18% i'm trying to see how much i can milk it for
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Lol I'd be lucky if I got 12 hours out of my phone with my display OFF -.-
I'm probably going to switch back to Froyo.

barqers said:
Lol I'd be lucky if I got 12 hours out of my phone with my display OFF -.-
I'm probably going to switch back to Froyo.
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you got better battery life using froyo? that's the exact opposite of what i've been hearing

tokimaromi said:
you got better battery life using froyo? that's the exact opposite of what i've been hearing
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I had froyo on my phone for about 3 hours and I lost 10%. I have any version of GB on my phone and I lost 10%/hour. So it's a huge jump ATM.
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Hey OP, can you post a list of your apps? Use listables. I want to compare it against mine. If there are any similar apps then I'm going to disable/uninstall mine and check battery life and report back.

Have you tried booting into recovery and erasing battery data? That greatly improved battery life on my Nexus S after it had undergone multiple ROM flashes.
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The ROM you're using is a huge matter. With CM7, i couldn't go a day without charging. Now, with MIUI, I'm pretty sure I can get 3 days, with normal brightness, and my normal use, which is email and texting.

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The ROM you're using is a huge matter. With CM7, i couldn't go a day without charging. Now, with MIUI, I'm pretty sure I can get 3 days, with normal brightness, and my normal use, which is email and texting.
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Holy **** I finally found someone with WIND Lol! Okay, what are your settings though? Do you have it set to WCDMA Only?
Is 3G turned on? Cause I can barely get like 14 hours moderate usage with dim brightness :S
I noticed that with cell radio on I used 10% in 57 minutes and with it off I used 1% in 1.5 hours...
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Have you tried booting into recovery and erasing battery data? That greatly improved battery life on my Nexus S after it had undergone multiple ROM flashes.
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I'll try tonight! Just letting it fully charge, then wiping/calibrating!

I found that if I turn data off sync off the battery lasts over twice as long. I don't need it consistently on, so I turn it on when I'm not busy. Works for me

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I found that if I turn data off sync off the battery lasts over twice as long. I don't need it consistently on, so I turn it on when I'm not busy. Works for me
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You know what I find weird. It doesn't matter if I turn data off or not cell standby will still use the same amount of battery and my battery still drains at the same rate.
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Just realized both threads were started by u..

3 Words. Juice Defender Plus.

[Q] Who's to blame for battery drain?

My phone went from 90% batt to 0% in 5h of screen off time. Usage shows Android OS 60% and SopCast 30%.
When i locked the phone i left it on the home screen.
So who's to blame? The rom, kernel or the app?

could you please provide a bit more detail like what kernel or rom you have and also if you could upload screenshot of battery usage

Rule out your application first. I'm assuming SopCast is a podcast application? If you were streaming, that will explain it. And yes. We need more details.

Install betterbatterystats and find out whats keeping your phone awake
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kwibis said:
Install betterbatterystats and find out whats keeping your phone awake
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Thanks, i used to have it installed, but i could never interpret any results from it since the lingo is beyond me (i.e. partial wakelocks, kernel panics...).

dinuvali said:
Thanks, i used to have it installed, but i could never interpret any results from it since the lingo is beyond me (i.e. partial wakelocks, kernel panics...).
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Well the same here lol. However if you focus a bit you'll find out some nice things. Kernel wake lock will give you the apps that keep your phone awake. For me its mostly the exchange which is email. You can take a screen shot and share if you'd like.
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kwibis said:
Well the same here lol. However if you focus a bit you'll find out some nice things. Kernel wake lock will give you the apps that keep your phone awake. For me its mostly the exchange which is email. You can take a screen shot and share if you'd like.
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Kernel wakelocks was empty, so i SS-ed the partial wakelocks.
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Anyway this is no longer related to that obscene 90% overnight bcuz i uninstalled sopcast. Now i just had 16% drain overnight (with Wi-Fi off) which is still a lot imo.

Having 18% drain overnight on JB with wi-fi off. Any ideas?

Why are turning wifi off in the first place? That is stupid if you're trying to extend battery life.
What is your cell signal like. A crappy cell signal drains battery. A crappy 3g signal that is constantly on because you turned off wifi drains even more.

albundy2010 said:
Why are turning wifi off in the first place? That is stupid if you're trying to extend battery life.
What is your cell signal like. A crappy cell signal drains battery. A crappy 3g signal that is constantly on because you turned off wifi drains even more.
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i was under the impression (from gingerbread times) that wi-fi uses up more battery than 3g; this was among the tips you would find back then on android sites to extend battery life.
Anyway, i have yet to find out who is calling the AlarmManager that is keeping the device awake. Any idea how i would go about doing that?

converse5 said:
could you please provide a bit more detail like what kernel or rom you have and also if you could upload screenshot of battery usage
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Rule out your application first. I'm assuming SopCast is a podcast application? If you were streaming, that will explain it. And yes. We need more details.
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My phone went from 90% batt to 0% in 5h of screen off time. Usage shows Android OS 60% and SopCast 30%.
When i locked the phone i left it on the home screen.
So who's to blame? The rom, kernel or the app?
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Hi, like the other guys said that are trying to help u....
We need more information to try and help u figure it out.
What ROM?
What kernel?
Any other modes or tweaks?
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I didn't mention that info so far because the initial problem of this post is fixed (SopCast (podcast app) keeping phone in stream mode) by uninstalling the said app.
Now, i believe that the overnight drain on my current JB ROM is too high.
So, here it is: Rom is Grean Bean ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821478 ), kernel is Matr1x 22.5 (but the drain didnt change when i changed kernel (beladus, _thalamus, air) and the significant mods that the rom has are V6 supercharged and brainmaster's twks.

dinuvali said:
i was under the impression (from gingerbread times) that wi-fi uses up more battery than 3g; this was among the tips you would find back then on android sites to extend battery life.
That was not the case in GB times or any times. Either you read wrong or the sites are stupid. Considering that for the most part the android sites / bloggers are still idiots today, who knows.
Anyways. WiFi uses the least battery. Less the 3g/2g. Should be used whenever possible to save battery. Phone in active use or idle you should be connected to WiFi over cellular data. Turning all radios off but enabling WiFi is the most battery efficient thing you can do and still have data but you won't have the actual phone. I do that at my buddies house where I get no service at all. Not going to use the phone for a couple hrs use airplane mode. That uses very little power if the phone is sleep. Turning the phone off and on uses more.
Also the better your signal is the less power the phone will use. You still gave no signal strength info. Frankly you're wasting your time with better battery stats and wakelocks etc when you don't fully grasp this radio stuff. Use that tool when you need to find something that keeps your phone awake when idle/not in deep sleep.
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Also the better your signal is the less power the phone will use. You still gave no signal strength info. Frankly you're wasting your time with better battery stats and wakelocks etc when you don't fully grasp this radio stuff. Use that tool when you need to find something that keeps your phone awake when idle/not in deep sleep.
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That's the situation i'm in. It seems i've solved it by figuring out which apps were calling the AlarmManager and the Media server, there were 2 actually: Latitude and Google Music Sync, that were waking too often. Now i've simply disabled them.
I didn't give any signal strength info, bcuz i didn't move and didn't change the radio. It's a jelly bean thing for sure (i have google now disabled). Many users have been complaining (in various rom threads) about this new found drain after the upgrade.

dinuvali said:
That's the situation i'm in. It seems i've solved it by figuring out which apps were calling the AlarmManager and the Media server, there were 2 actually: Latitude and Google Music Sync, that were waking too often. Now i've simply disabled them.
I didn't give any signal strength info, bcuz i didn't move and didn't change the radio. It's a jelly bean thing for sure (i have google now disabled). Many users have been complaining (in various rom threads) about this new found drain after the upgrade.
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Yeah, I normally play with a new ROM bare boned to see if has a natural drain.
Then I add the apps that I have been using that I know do not drain battery life.
And the other person is dead in with the signal advice. I had a HTC hero before and it had many tweaks on fixing the signal so battery would last. Which is why I love the pull down notification bar and some ROMs have idle timers.
Good luck
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What was your battery life like?

I just want to know how your battery life would last for you because I would have to charge my phone 3 times a day.
Please post your opinion
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you are probably a heavy user. I charge my phone (on average) every 2 days.

Not sure what ROM or kernel you're running, but I'm running the latest "Team Acid" version of AOKP with latest kernel it comes with and I have no problems with my battery. Of course I that's just with normal use (texting, calling, viewing xda via app, gtalk and some web browsing). My battery usually still has any where between 30% and 50% by night time when i place on my dock for the night to charge. Time of use is from 5 am to about 9 pm.

The way I use my phone, I was lucky to get through from 6 A.M. to 6 P.M. without having to charge with GB and the AntonX kernel. My life was comparable using the stock TeamAcid AOKP ICS ROM and kernel. Undervolting an additional 75 mV, allowing overclocking to 1200 MHz, and using the smartassv2 governor I seem to be able to get through the day, but definitely need to plug in in the evening if I didn't charge during the day.
The biggest run-time improvement for me was a new battery. Even the 1500 mAh Samsung battery I got as a spare was significantly better than my 18-month-old 1650 mAh Samsung that came with my phone.
Better Battery Stats is an indispensable app for gathering information in understanding why your battery life may not be as good as it could be. Looking at the ICS monitor of data usage (or My Data Manager, which will run on GB as well) can provide good insights as well. By watching the output of those, removing/freezing some apps that I don't need that wakelock the phone, setting "quiet hours," turning off WiFI at night, and not dropping to "2G/GSM" for background data transfer, I am typically around 90% charge after ~8 hours of "really idle" overnight. It is a couple percent lower if it is a night that Titanium Backup runs a scheduled backup.

I would get around 15 hours of fairly heavy use. I was running barebones with antonx oc/uv kernel I was undervolted and using the 2300 mah battery
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My battery life is unrealistic. This is most the reason I post roms and share them with you. I cannot gauge how well a rom will behave until more "use cases" exercise the phone's abilities.
For one, I don't have t-mobile anymore, so the RIL doesn't behave the way it does on your phone (when you are on t-mobile), because I only get edge. I don't use this phone as my daily driver, so I don't pack the phone up with a bunch of applications or multimedia (videos, mp3s, etc...).
With that my phone gets really great battery life.
Right now my 'herring r7' rom (to be released soon) has me at 3h 16m on battery @ 97%. I'm sure the time will continue to go up and battery usage will slowly decay. I really won't know how it will act until I release it and wait for you guys to respond.
I hope that gives you a little view into why I can't always gauge how a rom is going to act and why it is so important that I get feedback.

Thanks guys bug I'm running the latest Team Acid CM9 with Hefe's kernel and battery life is just terrible, my battery lasts about 4 hrs at 96%. Not sure if its my battery that needs replacing but anyone have suggestions on improving battery life?
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rezo609 said:
Thanks guys bug I'm running the latest Team Acid CM9 with Hefe's kernel and battery life is just terrible, my battery lasts about 4 hrs at 96%. Not sure if its my battery that needs replacing but anyone have suggestions on improving battery life?
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I got "better battery stats" from the market.
The developer has a thread somewhere here on xda.
It is a great tool for figuring out what is running so often that is eating your battery.
With that, I've found that doing a factory reset, wiping everything (including my sdcard, after backing it up... of course), makes sure nothing residual is around to make applications go wacky. I don't use TB or any other tools to restore backed up apps. I either do it manually with adb or just reinstall stuff from the market. I never restore data.

Where can I find your new rom when its ready
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Battery life means nothing without listing display time. My SGS4G is currently at 5 days. However when I actually used it as my daily phone I would get about 4 hours display over the course of a normal day. 3½ display time if I used it for much gaming or YouTube streaming.
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lonoguge said:
Where can I find your new rom when its ready
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730954

4 hours

It all depends. Playing HD youtube over 4G with brightness turned up full and checking email every 2 mins, etc is going to kill it a lot faster than data/wifi turned off, screen at the lowest brightness and sitting in your pocket without the screen on. There is no test benchmark to test ROM's for this, because even things like how far you are away from the router, if you're connected B/G/N could all effect the battery life, so it's hard to get a standard test. Here is an average day for me though.
This is Remics, no real tweaks, smartass2 governor running. Few hours of music, pedometer tracking in the background to track walking for an hour or so, bit of surfing, instagram pic taking and uploading, editing for an 30 mins oror so, installed 3 other camera last night and rebooting and playing around, lots of suduko, hour or so of youtube, lots of txting, ummm, tested a wifi calling apps that worked good for about 30mins, I can't remember what else over the past 26hours and still 26% left.
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I'm lucky to get 6 hours.

[Q] how come my battery always sucks!

something that ive been always been wondering..
every time i get a new phone i seem to have bad luck with them when it comes to battery..(optimus 4x, nexus 4, nexus 5) i always see reviews and comments saying they get X screen on time and i always get X-2 screen on time and poor standby time
ive tried everything, changing roms, kernels, checking wakelocks turning wifi or 3g off when not used(LTE always off)
the most i ever seem to get is 3 hours and thats a really good day on low performance(underclocked) and i also barely game..
how in the hell do people get 5 hours screen time and complain about it.. meaning that they actually get more! and they say they game and browse alot.. im not only comparing to people online, i also compare with my friends who get good battery.. we dont seem to be doing anything different
does anyone know the problem/solution to this?!

I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS

It's all about looking at what is using your battery and mitigating as many of them as you can. Some people might find they can't live without many features of a phone and so will generally get less time then someone who is willing to sacrifice certain features or adjust their usage to improve battery time.

Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
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This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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Hannibal226 said:
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps

jjhiza said:
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
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fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
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namnam123 said:
ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
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I recommend do this on a stock ROM, but can work on any.
Have your phone set up normally. Charge it full, reboot in "safe mode" and don't open any apps. Just let it do its thing for a few hours, or over night. See how the battery life is now. It should improve. If so, you got something 3rd party killing it.

Turn off location reporting and location history. It'll improve your battery life dramatically without making any noticeable impact on the phone's capabilities (including Google Now). I also recommend disabling Google+ if you don't use it.

^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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namnam123 said:
what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.

namnam123 said:
what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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BirchBarlow said:
The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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Exactly

jjhiza said:
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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yes i always wipe the cache and dalvik cache

Make sure wifi scanning is off too. And ages ago usb fast charge used to cause issues with massive battery drain when the screen was on. So turn it off and see if it helps. I am talking years ago tho. It was literally meant to be turned on when plugging in and leaving the phone alone. Then disabled when taking off charge
Also post some screen shots of your battery stats
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[Q] Battery

Hi All
I'm set with money ready to buy the Nexus 5 ( 32 GB ) or Z1 Compact
And I wonder how well the battery of the N5 performs in real life
Because...when I buy the N5 I don't plan to leave it at 2.26Ghz...in fact I even plan to underclock it to 1.7Ghz ( Because Xperia Z has a 5" and is clocked at an even lower speed and still performs well )
And I'm a light user...who never or rarely uses Wi-FI and am always on 2g ( I never use 4G or 3G ) and always on 5-10% Brightness I also plan to remove all bloatware ( except Google Now ) my phone usually sits on bed and I only get it out to watch some 720p Vids then it rests again
Could I get a day or two out of it and is the "Camera Draining the battery issue" fixed on the 4.4.2 Update?
and finally i just wonder up to now why Z1c gets higher scores than N5 I mean N5 is clocked at higher speeds could this be the effect of Thermal Throttling
Thanks alot :good:

Please Help

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Well, nexus 5 will give you a day backup easily according to your usage
The camera bug is not yet fixed, but there are rumors for 4.4.3 update which gonna fix it and gonna release soon
You need to fairly choose between fast updates(nexus and gpe series) or more hardware features (all other smartphone)
If you are interested in rooting and customizing stuff, then you will get plenty of those in nexus 5
Even my usage is similar like you, I use 3G, I do get one day battery backup
I hope it helps you
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I'm not 100% sure on the compacts specs but my friend has the Z1. It's exactly the same processor and clock speed. Apart from the camera is awesome and it's waterproof. But u get a crappy sony ui. And Sony updates (which to be fair it has just received 4.4.2) but in my past experience of owning Sony's as soon as their next phone is released they forget about the previous.
The nexus on the other hand is far smoother and faster to use and WILL get all the latest Android releases first and always. And no bloatware. Just fast smooth simple Android
I was deciding between the two before I got my Nexus, and to be fair i don't think I'd have been disappointed in either.
And yes you can easily get 2 days out of the nexus.
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Ahh because I was a bit skeptical since I checked the GSMarena website and battery endurance was at 40H and Z1c is like 65H
How about the overheating issues?

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please read the rules. Bumping within 24 hours is against them
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Thanks one last question...does Google Now Work even if you aren't connected to the internet?
Thanks alot

I don't believe so... I Don't really use it tho
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Revontheus said:
Thanks one last question...does Google Now Work even if you aren't connected to the internet?
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Most Google Now functions require internet connectivity. I think reminders work without one.
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From what you describe as your usage I can see it lasting a day no problem, perhaps 36 hours, maybe more if you let the battery go down far. My Nexus 5 typically burns from 100% to 70% over 10 hours from when I leave to when i get back from work, and thats on 4G/3G with decent to fair signal, bluetooth on, wifi on, and brightness all the way up, with texting on and off through the day. With minimum texting once I made it around 85-88%, little over 1% an hour.

That's great to know since I even plan to Underclock the phone and leave the other connection options off at most times
As for Google Now without net would it still work or just show "Cannot Reach Google at the moment"

The nexus 5 battery is the weakest point in this phone
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The nexus 5 battery is the weakest point in this phone
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I know! Battery is brutal.
My last charge only lasted a day and a half with over 6 hours screen time.
Very disappointed.
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I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...

^thank you
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I get around 12 hours with moderate to sometimes heavy usage on PAC ROM
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CoronaDelux said:
I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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3-4 SoT hours is already more than most phones could hope for.
6-8 hours SoT is achievable on stock, with lighter usage and mostly WiFi. I wouldn't say it's misleading to expect 6 hours SoT as that seems to be what most users on here are settling down with.
Edit for obligatory proof: Take today for instance, 3 hours SoT with 54% battery remaining. Heavy data usage and loss of signal included. Stock and unrooted.
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CoronaDelux said:
I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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It shows what is possible. And the battery life thread can show anyone how to do it. Its not hard. Turn stuff off. Toggle it on when you actually truly need it. It isn't that inconvenient.
Yes, you are right about the average times ...the problem is some, like a person in this thread we all should know, complain and complain and complain about their 3 hours screen time. Meanwhile, everything is on, they're gaming, using auto brightness in the sunshine...etc...etc...
As you said, 3 to 4 SOT is average I'd say. If that disappoints anyone....do something about it....there's a battery thread full of help....or sell the phone and buy one with a huge battery that can handle everything on and give you more hours.
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bblzd said:
3-4 SoT hours is already more than most phones could hope for.
6-8 hours SoT is achievable on stock, with lighter usage and mostly WiFi. I wouldn't say it's misleading to expect 6 hours SoT as that seems to be what most users on here are settling down with.
Edit for obligatory proof: Take today for instance, 3 hours SoT with 54% battery remaining. Heavy data usage and loss of signal included. Stock and unrooted.
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That's true, on wifi, the battery life really shines. Out in the real world, with varying signal strength, I would put the average around 3-4 SOT with everything on however.
kj2112 said:
It shows what is possible. And the battery life thread can show anyone how to do it. Its not hard. Turn stuff off. Toggle it on when you actually truly need it. It isn't that inconvenient.
Yes, you are right about the average times ...the problem is some, like a person in this thread we all should know, complain and complain and complain about their 3 hours screen time. Meanwhile, everything is on, they're gaming, using auto brightness in the sunshine...etc...etc...
As you said, 3 to 4 SOT is average I'd say. If that disappoints anyone....do something about it....there's a battery thread full of help....or sell the phone and buy one with a huge battery that can handle everything on and give you more hours.
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FaIr enough
Yes, there are many tweaks that can be done to improve battery life, but stock for stock, it is only average in my opinion.