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I'm set with money ready to buy the Nexus 5 ( 32 GB ) or Z1 Compact
And I wonder how well the battery of the N5 performs in real life
Because...when I buy the N5 I don't plan to leave it at 2.26Ghz...in fact I even plan to underclock it to 1.7Ghz ( Because Xperia Z has a 5" and is clocked at an even lower speed and still performs well )
And I'm a light user...who never or rarely uses Wi-FI and am always on 2g ( I never use 4G or 3G ) and always on 5-10% Brightness I also plan to remove all bloatware ( except Google Now ) my phone usually sits on bed and I only get it out to watch some 720p Vids then it rests again
Could I get a day or two out of it and is the "Camera Draining the battery issue" fixed on the 4.4.2 Update?
and finally i just wonder up to now why Z1c gets higher scores than N5 I mean N5 is clocked at higher speeds could this be the effect of Thermal Throttling
Thanks alot :good:
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Well, nexus 5 will give you a day backup easily according to your usage
The camera bug is not yet fixed, but there are rumors for 4.4.3 update which gonna fix it and gonna release soon
You need to fairly choose between fast updates(nexus and gpe series) or more hardware features (all other smartphone)
If you are interested in rooting and customizing stuff, then you will get plenty of those in nexus 5
Even my usage is similar like you, I use 3G, I do get one day battery backup
I hope it helps you
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I'm not 100% sure on the compacts specs but my friend has the Z1. It's exactly the same processor and clock speed. Apart from the camera is awesome and it's waterproof. But u get a crappy sony ui. And Sony updates (which to be fair it has just received 4.4.2) but in my past experience of owning Sony's as soon as their next phone is released they forget about the previous.
The nexus on the other hand is far smoother and faster to use and WILL get all the latest Android releases first and always. And no bloatware. Just fast smooth simple Android
I was deciding between the two before I got my Nexus, and to be fair i don't think I'd have been disappointed in either.
And yes you can easily get 2 days out of the nexus.
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Ahh because I was a bit skeptical since I checked the GSMarena website and battery endurance was at 40H and Z1c is like 65H
How about the overheating issues?
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please read the rules. Bumping within 24 hours is against them
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Thanks one last question...does Google Now Work even if you aren't connected to the internet?
Thanks alot
I don't believe so... I Don't really use it tho
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Thanks one last question...does Google Now Work even if you aren't connected to the internet?
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Most Google Now functions require internet connectivity. I think reminders work without one.
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From what you describe as your usage I can see it lasting a day no problem, perhaps 36 hours, maybe more if you let the battery go down far. My Nexus 5 typically burns from 100% to 70% over 10 hours from when I leave to when i get back from work, and thats on 4G/3G with decent to fair signal, bluetooth on, wifi on, and brightness all the way up, with texting on and off through the day. With minimum texting once I made it around 85-88%, little over 1% an hour.
That's great to know since I even plan to Underclock the phone and leave the other connection options off at most times
As for Google Now without net would it still work or just show "Cannot Reach Google at the moment"
The nexus 5 battery is the weakest point in this phone
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The nexus 5 battery is the weakest point in this phone
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I know! Battery is brutal.
My last charge only lasted a day and a half with over 6 hours screen time.
Very disappointed.
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I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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I get around 12 hours with moderate to sometimes heavy usage on PAC ROM
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CoronaDelux said:
I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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3-4 SoT hours is already more than most phones could hope for.
6-8 hours SoT is achievable on stock, with lighter usage and mostly WiFi. I wouldn't say it's misleading to expect 6 hours SoT as that seems to be what most users on here are settling down with.
Edit for obligatory proof: Take today for instance, 3 hours SoT with 54% battery remaining. Heavy data usage and loss of signal included. Stock and unrooted.
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CoronaDelux said:
I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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It shows what is possible. And the battery life thread can show anyone how to do it. Its not hard. Turn stuff off. Toggle it on when you actually truly need it. It isn't that inconvenient.
Yes, you are right about the average times ...the problem is some, like a person in this thread we all should know, complain and complain and complain about their 3 hours screen time. Meanwhile, everything is on, they're gaming, using auto brightness in the sunshine...etc...etc...
As you said, 3 to 4 SOT is average I'd say. If that disappoints anyone....do something about it....there's a battery thread full of help....or sell the phone and buy one with a huge battery that can handle everything on and give you more hours.
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3-4 SoT hours is already more than most phones could hope for.
6-8 hours SoT is achievable on stock, with lighter usage and mostly WiFi. I wouldn't say it's misleading to expect 6 hours SoT as that seems to be what most users on here are settling down with.
Edit for obligatory proof: Take today for instance, 3 hours SoT with 54% battery remaining. Heavy data usage and loss of signal included. Stock and unrooted.
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That's true, on wifi, the battery life really shines. Out in the real world, with varying signal strength, I would put the average around 3-4 SOT with everything on however.
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It shows what is possible. And the battery life thread can show anyone how to do it. Its not hard. Turn stuff off. Toggle it on when you actually truly need it. It isn't that inconvenient.
Yes, you are right about the average times ...the problem is some, like a person in this thread we all should know, complain and complain and complain about their 3 hours screen time. Meanwhile, everything is on, they're gaming, using auto brightness in the sunshine...etc...etc...
As you said, 3 to 4 SOT is average I'd say. If that disappoints anyone....do something about it....there's a battery thread full of help....or sell the phone and buy one with a huge battery that can handle everything on and give you more hours.
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FaIr enough
Yes, there are many tweaks that can be done to improve battery life, but stock for stock, it is only average in my opinion.
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Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
Turn off the "ok Google" crap and location when you don't need it
Already done those, unfortunately...
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Sesamechicken said:
Already done those, unfortunately...
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Get betterbatterystats and figure out what wake locks are keeping your phone awake
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Get betterbatterystats and figure out what wake locks are keeping your phone awake
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The odd thing is that "Google keyboard" takes up the battery percentage. Note that this is standby time
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Sesamechicken said:
The odd thing is that "Google keyboard" takes up the battery percentage. Note that this is standby time
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, clear cache in it.
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, clear cache in it.
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Alright, I'll do that and see how it turns out.
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OK coming from a Galaxy S (1) 4G. I'm not too disappointed with this phone's battery. Yes, it is not the best. But I have noticed that it must be KitKat, not the phone, since the phone's battery should be about 75% of the LG G2's battery, and the G2 has a bit bigger screen and more crap features such as Double Tap 2 Wake and a bunch of other battery hogging features built into the phone. And that thing's battery lasts about twice as long as this phone's battery, which is a bit odd. So i'm definitely saying KitKat is still a bit(very) buggy, and it should be fine in a few months time since the two phones (G2 and N5) should equalize with battery life since there isn't too much battery hogging crap on the N5. I'm using Franco's kernel on stock, and I must say, with pretty decent use, my phone is somewhere between 70 and 85 percent battery in 8 hours. (that is if I may check XDA and facebook a few times), go through a bunch of dead/low signal zones, maybe play 10 minutes of asphalt 8, and maybe use Chrome Beta for a few minutes to browse something. I may also make a few calls/texts in that time. I must say, that I haven't really tested android 4.4.2's life too much compared to 4.4, but I'm getting better life on 4.4.2. On the low end of the spectrum, if I play asphalt 8 for 30-40 minutes. I'll be down to 40-50% by the end of the 8 hour period. I agree that it may look a bit intimidating to see 5% percent battery at the end of 15 hour period, but by then, the day will be pretty much over and you'll have time to charge your phone. If you're a 'round the clock person such as a doctor and need your phone at odd intervals, you can always keep a qi/battery pack charger. Also I find the charge time on this phone quite impressive. I can charge my phone from 30-100 percent in very little time. I'm not exactly sure, but maybe an hour or 2 or less. Also this phone is very graphically extensive and with the extremely dense display, it will probably use more battery than an older phone with less resolution.
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Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
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How much SOT do you have at 30% battery life? Do you have widgets galore, push e-mail (Gmail, Yahoo etc...), screen brightness set to Auto or full brightness (auto screen brightness is very aggressive on the N5 in terms of keeping it very bright even in should be toned down). You should take a screen shot of your SOT and battery life summary so all of us can see what is eating your battery.
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OK coming from a Galaxy S (1) 4G. I'm not too disappointed with this phone's battery. Yes, it is not the best. But I have noticed that it must be KitKat, not the phone, since the phone's battery should be about 75% of the LG G2's battery, and the G2 has a bit bigger screen and more crap features such as Double Tap 2 Wake and a bunch of other battery hogging features built into the phone. And that thing's battery lasts about twice as long as this phone's battery, which is a bit odd. So i'm definitely saying KitKat is still a bit(very) buggy, and it should be fine in a few months time since the two phones (G2 and N5) should equalize with battery life since there isn't too much battery hogging crap on the N5. I'm using Franco's kernel on stock, and I must say, with pretty decent use, my phone is somewhere between 70 and 85 percent battery in 8 hours. (that is if I may check XDA and facebook a few times), go through a bunch of dead/low signal zones, maybe play 10 minutes of asphalt 8, and maybe use Chrome Beta for a few minutes to browse something. I may also make a few calls/texts in that time. I must say, that I haven't really tested android 4.4.2's life too much compared to 4.4, but I'm getting better life on 4.4.2. On the low end of the spectrum, if I play asphalt 8 for 30-40 minutes. I'll be down to 40-50% by the end of the 8 hour period. I agree that it may look a bit intimidating to see 5% percent battery at the end of 15 hour period, but by then, the day will be pretty much over and you'll have time to charge your phone. If you're a 'round the clock person such as a doctor and need your phone at odd intervals, you can always keep a qi/battery pack charger. Also I find the charge time on this phone quite impressive. I can charge my phone from 30-100 percent in very little time. I'm not exactly sure, but maybe an hour or 2 or less. Also this phone is very graphically extensive and with the extremely dense display, it will probably use more battery than an older phone with less resolution.
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:/ hopefully it'll get better. Just got 4.4.2 today for the camera. Hopefully KitKat will be all good within December.
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How much SOT do you have at 30% battery life? Do you have widgets galore, push e-mail (Gmail, Yahoo etc...), screen brightness set to Auto or full brightness (auto screen brightness is very aggressive on the N5 in terms of keeping it very bright even in should be toned down). You should take a screen shot of your SOT and battery life summary so all of us can see what is eating your battery.
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Alright. I'll use a full days worth tomorrow and show you guys.
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Wow, very strange. I'm getting the BEST battery life out of all my phones from the N5. It will go at least 24 hours with average use and my SOT is about 5 hours. With light use it'll go 36 - 48 hours no problem.
HOWEVER, this was only on Android 4.4. When I upgraded to 4.4.2, the battery life went to ****. And I'm pretty sure I know why: when I run System Tuner Pro and watch the CPU throttling screen, it is showing that the "min" CPU frequency doesn't go below 1036 Mhz, EVEN IF I set the CPU min to 300 Mhz in SetCPU or System Tuner itself - the OS sets it back to 1036 Mhz (and sometimes 1.2Ghz) after a couple seconds. WTF?! It's like the kernel or Android is overriding my CPU clock settings. No wonder the battery life went to hell - a phone isn't supposed to be running at almost 1Ghz when sleeping!
I downgraded back to 4.4 from one of my backups and watched the CPU screen in that version. And sure enough, the CPU is allowed to drop to 300 Mhz like it should.So idk WTF Google did with the 4.4.2 version, but it's definitely a bug. And I think it's in the kernel, or at least somewhere in the original AOSP source, since CyanogenMod 11 (with the 4.4.1 version) has the same issue.
Just factory reset clean phone barely any apps now. Will report my findings tomorrow
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I was having bad battery on a previous rom which i did a dirty flash on, i cleaned wiped and installed a new rom and this are my shots from second day running it.
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I was having bad battery on a previous rom which i did a dirty flash on, i cleaned wiped and installed a new rom and this are my shots from second day running it.
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This phone naturally has bad battery life google has paired up a Beast processor and a GPU and a 1080P Full HD screen all with a LITTLE battery
try underclock the cpu
Anyone ever try Greenify?
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Sesamechicken said:
Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
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Franco Kernel = Cure
The battery is fine. There is a nasty bug in the OS or modem that causes very bad drain. It's been present since release (4.4). Still working to find the cause and a proper fix.
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Franco Kernel = Cure
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Im on Franco r20 and CM11. battery is at 64% with 58 minute screen on time and 7 hour 23 minutes total. No gaming no nothing because I'm scared the battery will die.
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Im on Franco r20 and CM11. battery is at 64% with 58 minute screen on time and 7 hour 23 minutes total. No gaming no nothing because I'm scared the battery will die.
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Just go Franco alone. Its probably cm11 rom
I've been running franco + purity and battery life is much better compared to stock.
I mean, I'm getting >24 hours of battery life with moderate usage.
How is the battery life? From what I have seen its mixed some people are getting good and others are getting terrible. I normally use the screen in total maybe 3-4 hours a day and playing music from google play about an hour total so could I make it through a charge on that?
it will depend on the quality of your phone/data connection mostly, and how you set up your phone. i use purely lte, as i have a great lte connection, and see a minimum of 5-5.5 hours screen on time.
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How is the battery life? From what I have seen its mixed some people are getting good and others are getting terrible. I normally use the screen in total maybe 3-4 hours a day and playing music from google play about an hour total so could I make it through a charge on that?
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this is my battery, i get up at 530am unplug my phone, go to work where therees no wifi, work till 330, get home at 430, then connect to wifi.
im on DroidKang rom and francos kernel.
i got this phone a week ago. trust me, its the best phone ive owned.
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this is my battery, i get up at 530am unplug my phone, go to work where therees no wifi, work till 330, get home at 430, then connect to wifi.
im on DroidKang rom and francos kernel.
i got this phone a week ago. trust me, its the best phone ive owned.
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That's sweet dude. I'm getting 3-4 hours screen time. But my idle is pretty good. Getting around a 30% drain every 8hrs with one of the hours screen on and another for phone calls. Then some various data usage. How do you get such good screen time? Mind if I ask you your load out?
I'm using mahdi +Franco 32. Greenified. Tweaked dalvik and bionic libraries
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Battery life for me has been nothing short of stellar. 5 hrs screen time, can go 2 full days on a charge if need be. With all the moaning about the battery size I expected horrible battery life. That's definitely not the case.
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Reviewers say its bad battery life, because stock kernel uses so much unecessary power. Flash a custom kernel and I reached 2.5 days with light - medium use (4 hrs sot).
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I've had a handful of Android devices and this is the best battery life I have ever experienced.
I've gotten over 5 hours SOT in one day of heavy use.
Over the last weekend, I went 2 days off the charger with 2.5 hours of SOT on LTE only and still had 35% battery remaining when I plugged in for a charge.
I'm running completely stock and rooted.
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i get 5 hours of screen on time on my nexus 5(not rooted.) but the thing is,there is 3g or 4g here in my country(goddammit).so 2g drains very little battery.My brightness is is somewhere between 30-100% and wifi is usually on.all time.i use tasker to cut the brightness to zero when the sceen is off.
Yesterday I got 13 and a half hours out of 50% of my battery before I set it on the wireless charger.
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Not ones who have done proper tests
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
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Reviewers say its bad battery life, because stock kernel uses so much unecessary power. Flash a custom kernel and I reached 2.5 days with light - medium use (4 hrs sot).
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I get 5+ hours SOT and 2+ days use with stock kernel just fine...
I've seen in other threads that people have proved that the battery can last longer than the s4.
I'm just about at 9 hours. Just casual browsing xda forums and 5-10 mins at a time.
1.5hrs screen time and only just dropped to 86% while writing this.
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I get around 2-3 hours of screen time. If you don't mess with your phone and install custom kernels and undervolt and all that, I guess that's that you get. I would say battery is comparable to the iPhone 5s.
This is with sync off and location off btw.
I'm getting excellent battery life as well. On days of light usage I don't even need to plug it in when I go to bed, I just top it up while I get ready for work in the morning. On days when I use it heavily, I still have 30% or more left before putting it down for the night. Screen time varies from 2-5 hours, depending on what exactly I've been doing and how good my signal is. I have no issues at all with the battery performance, it's awesome.
Any bets on when dicecuber will appear in this thread to tell us how absolutely terrible the battery is?
Using Franco kernel, 4.5hrs SOT is a walk in the park. It's better than my SGS4 I came from.
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Battery life is not a worry I get better time on this then any of my previous phones and have no worry's of it lasting through the day. Although I am a little jealous of my wife's insane battery life on her xperia z1.
Did anyone see the chris nacca video about the HTC one M8 battery life...it have 2600mah 300mah more than us...and he manage to get 6hours sot...not the sot that you see on g+ or here the one that we let the screen on for 6 hours...how is this possible...from LG G2 with 3000mah i can get it...but how htc do it....
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...not the sot that you see on g+ or here the one that we let the screen on for 6 hours...
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What does this mean, please?
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What does this mean, please?
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That many users just let their battery drain by letting the screen on without using their phone at all achiving 6+ hours SOT
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That many users just let their battery drain by letting the screen on without using their phone at all achiving 6+ hours SOT
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My friend has a G2 and he gets 6 hours SOT from web browsing and playing games...
Don't make statements with no facts.
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My friend has a G2 and he gets 6 hours SOT from web browsing and playing games...
Don't make statements with no facts.
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oh god im talking about nexus 5 posts...i know g2 can last so long....
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oh god im talking about nexus 5 posts...i know g2 can last so long....
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Your first post mentioned the LG G2, so not sure which you're comparing...
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That many users just let their battery drain by letting the screen on without using their phone at all achiving 6+ hours SOT
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There are plenty here who also use the Nexus 5 and can achieve that. Granted it might be light to medium usage (no heavy gaming). But 6+hours is certainly possible.
As for how the HTC can achieve this...for a start it has a more efficient chip. I recommend the Anandtech review to explain it.
You can compare this phones to as many other phones as you like, some will be better, some worse. The usage and 'testing' patterns are always different...
There are too many variables to judge 'battery life' universally on any device though. Technology is always developing, so next year will be even better, you'll feel worse again. It's hard, but you have to just stop comparing, let it go sometimes...
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oh god im talking about nexus 5 posts...i know g2 can last so long....
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RIght, i stand corrected.
Also nexus 5 can have 6 hours sot.
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Your first post mentioned the LG G2, so not sure which you're comparing...
There are plenty here who also use the Nexus 5 and can achieve that. Granted it might be light to medium usage (no heavy gaming). But 6+hours is certainly possible.
As for how the HTC can achieve this...for a start it has a more efficient chip. I recommend the Anandtech review to explain it.
You can compare this phones to as many other phones as you like, some will be better, some worse. The usage and 'testing' patterns are always different...
There are too many variables to judge 'battery life' universally on any device though. Technology is always developing, so next year will be even better, you'll feel worse again. It's hard, but you have to just stop comparing, let it go sometimes...
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Qualcomm announce their new flagship the Snapdragon 801. The new SOC isn't really all that new. The platform has bumped the clocks a bit higher boasting a 8% increase in CPU frequencies, 28% Boost in GPU frequencies and the memory bandwidth has also gone up by 16%.
nothing about power consumption....also im comparing a simmilar device and i don't think that 300mah is such a great difference....also i know that usages are different from user to user...but we all know who much nexus 5 battery can last...if your actually using your phone and im not talking about games...its about 3h SOT...chris manage with his i beleve normal usage to achive 3+ hours SOT on a 300mah bigger battery..thats why im asking this...what htc does differently than google in terms of optimising their device and their OS
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Also nexus 5 can have 6 hours sot.
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Dude come on...your use your phone on what??whats up??nothing more??no browser and not even a single phone call...i dont care about this SOTS...usages means use your phone...pure usage at me means use your phone without games...not just whats up
Everyone's usage is different.
I don't make many (if any) phone calls and that is my main usage.
I use my phone for listening to music to and from work, web browsing and xda throughout the day and come night time it's mainly used as a remote control for my media centers. And I usually get about 6 hours of screen time over 2 days on a single charge.
My brother also has a nexus 5 thanks to me. If he doesn't play games his battery will easily last him 4 days on a single charge on his usage.
So as said usage numbers mean nothing as everyone's usage is different
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Everyone's usage is different.
I don't make many (if any) phone calls and that is my main usage.
I use my phone for listening to music to and from work, web browsing and xda throughout the day and come night time it's mainly used as a remote control for my media centers. And I usually get about 6 hours of screen time over 2 days on a single charge.
My brother also has a nexus 5 thanks to me. If he doesn't play games his battery will easily last him 4 days on a single charge on his usage.
So as said usage numbers mean nothing as everyone's usage is different
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If you can use your phone normaly of course without games and can get 6hours sot then nexus 5 has 6 hours sot...but for me i can't get pass 3h sot with difficult...but the point isnt how much sot can nexus 5 have...but how htc one can get 6hour sot and we have to use our phone at the minimal to achive this
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Qualcomm announce their new flagship the Snapdragon 801. The new SOC isn't really all that new. The platform has bumped the clocks a bit higher boasting a 8% increase in CPU frequencies, 28% Boost in GPU frequencies and the memory bandwidth has also gone up by 16%.
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Read it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review/7
..."The M8 is the first smartphone we’ve tested to use Qualcomm’s newly announced Snapdragon 801 SoC. At a high level the 801 is a frequency bump enabled by a 28nm HPm process push, giving it a tangible increase in performance (and potential decrease in power consumption) compared to the outgoing Snapdragon 800"
nothing about power consumption....also im comparing a simmilar device and i don't think that 300mah is such a great difference....also i know that usages are different from user to user...but we all know who much nexus 5 battery can last...if your actually using your phone and im not talking about games...its about 3h SOT...chris manage with his i beleve normal usage to achive 3+ hours SOT on a 300mah bigger battery..thats why im asking this...what htc does differently than google in terms of optimising their device and their OS
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You are completely contradicting yourself...
You know that usage patterns are different from user to user..but apparently we ALL know its about 3h SOT???? I'm sorry this makes no sense....you cannot just judge everyone else's battery life...
It's impossible to even define what is 'normal' usage....for some it's gaming, others none, but whatsapp doesn't count apparently...
If you're getting such low times, then it's something to do with your usage or what you have installed, or you have a faulty unit. No need to assume how 'bad' it must be for every user...
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If you can use your phone normaly of course without games and can get 6hours sot then nexus 5 has 6 hours sot...but for me i can't get pass 3h sot with difficult...but the point isnt how much sot can nexus 5 have...but how htc one can get 6hour sot and we have to use our phone at the minimal to achive this
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The laws of physics ....the HTC has a larger battery and more efficient chip
But I got back to my first reply. If you constantly compare then you'll never be satisfied. You could get this device now, then next year the same thing happens...
Let....it....go....
Check my stats.
Usage includes other than those on stats watsapp, chrome, youtube and dead trigger was on high graphics.
Anyways I think Li-pro battery instead of Li-ion might help it to get that juice with the 300mah extra battery. Obv 801 is a refined processor than 800.
So in totality there can be many things contributing to that battery life.
But damn that's pretty good battery life on Htc one.
Great job done by their dev.
That's not surprising considering that the HTC one m7 could get up to 4-4.5 hrs sot. That's what my colleague gets on his phone. All comes in the optimization of the phone.
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He actually thinks anyone getting 6 hours SoT with the N5 has their phone idled with the screen on.
News flash: N5 is one of the most efficient phones to date. 6 hours SoT is easily attainable even with moderate usage. Light usage I'm looking at 8.5 hours SoT stock unrooted from yesterday.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
Also if someone were to idle with the screen on the SoT could go 20+ hours. Lastly, battery pages don't tell you a full story. By the time you reach 10% most app usage won't even show.
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He actually thinks anyone getting 6 hours SoT with the N5 has their phone idled with the screen on.
News flash: N5 is one of the most efficient phones to date. 6 hours SoT is easily attainable even with moderate usage. Light usage I'm looking at 8.5 hours SoT stock unrooted from yesterday.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/5
Also if someone were to idle with the screen on the SoT could go 20+ hours. Lastly, battery pages don't tell you a full story. By the time you reach 10% most app usage won't even show.
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I am going to kindly call your statement BS
dinodude said:
I am going to kindly call your statement BS
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Which part? Check battery results thread and see many users doing exactly that. I'll post my 8.5 hour shots tomorrow to avoid any Fools day confusion, but 6 hours SoT should be attainable by most users. The 20+ hours of screen idle is from a post on Reddit where someone tried it.
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Also if someone were to idle with the screen on the SoT could go 20+ hours.
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Don't be silly. 15 hours at best. lol I had nothing better to do at work one day and here are the results.
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Don't be silly. 15 hours at best. lol I had nothing better to do at work one day and here are the results.
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Be careful when using terms like "at best". He stretched it even further by having airplane mode on and I'm assuming low brightness, lol. Not something I'd suggest wasting a charge cycle on though.
The thing to remember is battery life varies greatly. There is no average SoT because there is no average usage case. That's why we rely on unbiased reviews like from Anandtech who go the extra mile to compare phones with the same settings and exact same brightness levels, as measured in Nits.
The OP would have you believe he has the true usage scenario and everyone else is simply cheating their battery stats.
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My big excitement for 6.0 was Doze and I think many other people felt the same. So I thought I'd post my experience thus far here.
I sideloaded the US 6.0 ROM yesterday around 10AM with 67% left on my phone. At 11PM I had 27% left, usually going that long would have me somewhere around the mid teens at 11PM.
I don't have a lot of screen on time, but when it is on I'm usually playing a game (Hearthstone) or watching a video. My SoT varies between 1.5 to 2.5 hours on a normal day. I have a Moto 360 (2015) that I use for all of my notification checking and such so my phone usually sits on a desk or in a pocket. I leave GPS on high accuracy all the time and am usually running on wifi but stream Google Play music over LTE for about 2 hours while driving throughout the day.
You'd think that using a smartwatch would give me better battery life, but at least with Lollipop my battery life was actually worse when my smartwatch is synced. By about 5%
I am using the 6.0 ROM and cell standby yet again is what is using most battery.
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I am using the 6.0 ROM and cell standby yet again is what is using most battery.
It shows day and something because inhad it unplugged overnight
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What's your screen on time? And what are the details of your cell standby?
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What's your screen on time? And what are the details of your cell standby?
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Did you ever consider you need to give the new rom time to settle?
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Did you ever consider you need to give the new rom time to settle?
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Maybe time will tell
Personally, I've never really noticed the settling in of a ROM, as far as battery life is concerned.
As far as the OP, I've also noticed a slight increase in battery life, particularly standby, so it seems doze is working as advertised. I'm going to leave my phone off the charger tonight and see how much juice I lose. It's usually around 10-15%.
I flashed the deodexed debloated rooted MM from the development thread last night, so far battery life is worse than TruePureX LP for me. On TruePureX LP, my idle drain is close to 0%, but now the drain is -10%/hr to -20%/hr... I wonder if the phone is doing the internal memory encryption? (I don't have an sd card inserted). Hopefully it will get better...
Battery drain was worse when I first updated to MM, but today battery use has been great. Much better standby time than lollipop.
Can I just say...my phone was at 100% at 8:50am this morning. Right now (9pm) at 33%. And it promises me it has 7 more hours in it. Coming from a Galaxy S4 where I changed battery halfway through the day, I am beyond impressed. This is better than I expected. At first didn't get into the big Doze hype, but now. Wow.
Nevermind... DERP
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Make sure you go to: Settings/ Apps/ then select the settings icon and then Battery Optimization and change the toggle to All Apps.
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Pretty sure all that does is change the filter. For me, the default was "Not optimized", so it only showed the 3 apps that aren't optimized (DMService, Google Play services, and Motorola Notification). Apparently these 3 apps cannot be optimized since they all say "Battery optimization not available".
Toggling to "All apps" just switches the filter to show (you guessed it) all apps.
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Pretty sure all that does is change the filter. For me, the default was "Not optimized", so it only showed the 3 apps that aren't optimized (DMService, Google Play services, and Motorola Notification). Apparently these 3 apps cannot be optimized since they all say "Battery optimization not available".
Toggling to "All apps" just switches the filter to show (you guessed it) all apps.
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hahaha... that's hilarious. Derp!
Here is an update I turned off scanning in location, didn't listen to any music since I fully charged my phone. Much better battery life however I usually listen to music via bt everyday. Oh and cell standby is much better.
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I'm happy with the doze effect... i get very little battery drain while its on stand by.... maybe 1 percent over 3 hours... but while using it i do see a steep drop in the battery while playing games/videos... which is fine....
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Here is an update I turned off scanning in location, didn't listen to any music since I fully charged my phone. Much better battery life however I usually listen to music via bt everyday. Oh and cell standby is much better.
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Hmm...I turned scanning off as well but it didn't help with drain from Cell Standby much (probably because Im on WiFi all day anyway) but Doze seems to work now (I turned off "keep WiFi on during sleep"). I can't really complain though because I'm pretty happy with these numbers. If Cell Standby is actually reporting accurately, my battery life would be beyond phenomenal if drain from it were to be fixed.
FYI, this is on the completely stock OTA.
You get better battery life by far using LTE more often. For some this isn't an option because of tiered data but I'm unlimited. Qualcomm's.power envelope for LTE is a much more noticeable improvement on battery in the moto x. And WiFi range isn't as good as my note4. LTE on the note4 is marginally better than WiFi with power envelope tech, but still a noticeable improvement on battery. I exclusively use LTE on my note4 and moto x because of this. Less charging because I get better battery and better for the battery life long term as I'm using less charging cycles. And moto needs to hurry up on the marshmallow update. I want my band 12 activated so I can try using it again asy daily driver. The note4 is still a beast and longest I've used a phone as daily driver at 14+ months. Tmobile dropped the ball skipping the 5.1.1 update. Terrible terrible because 5.0.1 is half assed on Samsung and tmobile's part. 6.0 for marshmallow doesnt excite me because I'm still stuck on 4.4.4.because 5.0.1 is soooo bad.
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You get better battery life by far using LTE more often. For some this isn't an option because of tiered data but I'm unlimited. Qualcomm's.power envelope for LTE is a much more noticeable improvement on battery in the moto x. And WiFi range isn't as good as my note4. LTE on the note4 is marginally better than WiFi with power envelope tech, but still a noticeable improvement on battery. I exclusively use LTE on my note4 and moto x because of this. Less charging because I get better battery and better for the battery life long term as I'm using less charging cycles. And moto needs to hurry up on the marshmallow update. I want my band 12 activated so I can try using it again asy daily driver. The note4 is still a beast and longest I've used a phone as daily driver at 14+ months. Tmobile dropped the ball skipping the 5.1.1 update. Terrible terrible because 5.0.1 is half assed on Samsung and tmobile's part. 6.0 for marshmallow doesnt excite me because I'm still stuck on 4.4.4.because 5.0.1 is soooo bad.
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The longest you've used a phone as a DD is 14 months and you're worried about the number of charging cycles you have on your MXPE? I'd understand if you're looking to get 3 years out of it.
I'm on day three, and so far it's been better for me too. Outstanding when left untouched, slightly better when using it. Doze is really that good, it's just hard to leave my phone alone long enough for it to work LOL. Performance was great for me on LP but is noticeably quicker on MM. I will say that after the initial OTA update, it wasn't what I expected so did a factory reset.. after the reset, was tons better. Beyond impressed!
I cracked 4hrs SOT for the first time since I got my MXPE thanks to MM. High accuracy location and Bluetooth on the whole time.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel XL before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I decided to try and push things this morning and used my Pixel XL almost all morning non-stop. I used it to talk on Hangouts/Allo, check mail, facebook, feedly, Flipboard, google news, listen to music, etc. I had 3.7 hours of on screen time and the battery was down to 67%.So far it seems much better than my S7 was
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I decided to try and push things this morning and used my Pixel XL almost all morning non-stop. I used it to talk on Hangouts/Allo, check mail, facebook, feedly, Flipboard, google news, listen to music, etc. I had 3.7 hours of on screen time and the battery was down to 67%.So far it seems much better than my S7 was
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How are people getting this? My screen seems to drain so fast even when I'm just constantly using it to see how much I can get. I barely get 40 minutes of SOT per 10% drain and that's if I'm using it straight through. Brightness kept low too. On wifi or LTE if doesn't matter.
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How are people getting this? My screen seems to drain so fast even when I'm just constantly using it to see how much I can get. I barely get 40 minutes of SOT per 10% drain and that's if I'm using it straight through. Brightness kept low too. On wifi or LTE if doesn't matter.
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Maybe you got a dud? With millions of these being mass produced there are bound to be bad ones. Maybe yours is that case. Would suck, but it sounds like SOMETHING is wrong. Have you checked your battery stats in Settings to see what's using all your juice?
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Maybe you got a dud? With millions of these being mass produced there are bound to be bad ones. Maybe yours is that case. Would suck, but it sounds like SOMETHING is wrong. Have you checked your battery stats in Settings to see what's using all your juice?
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"Combined APP CPU" takes up 60% in GSAM battery stats. No idea what that means
I finished my day yesterday (day 3 of owning) with 5.7 hrs screen on time and had 22% battery left when plugging in. I hadn't watched any videos but spent alot of time reading, browsing and chatting. I kept my brightness around 1/3 the way to full and never moved it. Adaptive brightness was left on but seems to change very minimally in different lighting conditions. My G3 used to drop to an unbearable dark when in lowlight situations. The Pixel XL 128gb has stayed more bright in lowlight situations than I'd like making it straining to my eyes. I tried nightmode but was a pukey looking orangish red. Not cool. Either way, it seems screen time is best I've had in recent phones. I averaged around 3.7 to 4.2 hrs on my Note 7 but only owned that for 3 weeks and had returned due to it being an incendiary device! KABOOM! So far I'm Pleased with the Pixel XL aside from the lack of lift to wake or double tap to wake. I hate hitting the power button to check notifications.
40 mins screen on for 10% drain ends up being about 6.5 hours of screen on time....don't understand your problem.?
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Almost 5 hours screen on time and I was using Waze and listening to Alex Jones pretty much the whole time the screen was on. This is the best better life I have gotten ever.
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Almost 5 hours screen on time and I was using Waze and listening to Alex Jones pretty much the whole time the screen was on. This is the best better life I have gotten ever.
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I'll say your SOT are good, seeing that most of the time you had bad cell signal.
When posting your screen on time could you possibly include your how bright you keep the brightness and if you use adaptive brightness or not. That would help comparisons.
Yesterday I got awesome screen on time.
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Ive been really happy with the phone so far. Majority of the time the brightness is between one third and half. Never use auto-adjust.
Over 9 hours! What kind of voodoo magic do you have on your phone!? Is that plain ol' vanilla android? Any kernel?
It's stock Android. I watched a lot of movies that day.
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How are people getting this? My screen seems to drain so fast even when I'm just constantly using it to see how much I can get. I barely get 40 minutes of SOT per 10% drain and that's if I'm using it straight through. Brightness kept low too. On wifi or LTE if doesn't matter.
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Damn id get a replacement. Im a heavy user and i litteraly charge this once a day and thats in the afternoon. Im on fb google plus. Youtube and i listen to music via bluetooth
I just got through my first full charge and ended up with over 7.5 hours SoT over about 32 hours of use. I didn't get a screenshot because I was trying to push for that 8 hour mark and the phone died...But I'm going to get it next time.
Best battery life I've ever experienced on a phone! Took of our charger this morning at 100% charge and it is 3:13 AM the following morning. Been doing the usual. Taptalking to check for Pixel Root method/. TWRP, YouTube, few photos, downloading apps, texting, few calls, and whatnot.
Still says I have 5 hours left on my battery give our take.
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Almost 5 hours screen on time and I was using Waze and listening to Alex Jones pretty much the whole time the screen was on. This is the best better life I have gotten ever.
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With such bad cell reception for a large part of the time and Chrome(a known battery hog) pretty high on the list as well as a small battery that's pretty good.
And I couldn't help but mention it but.... seriously? Alex Jones? That dude is crazy! Does the Pixel XL come with a free tinfoil hat and straight jacket? LOL Alex Jones HAHAHAHA
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It's stock Android. I watched a lot of movies that day.
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edved said:
Over 9 hours! What kind of voodoo magic do you have on your phone!? Is that plain ol' vanilla android? Any kernel?
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That's the only possible reason for that SOT... youtube 25%... lol... no way in other "normal" conditions you would get over 5/6h SOT
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That's the only possible reason for that SOT... youtube 25%... lol... no way in other "normal" conditions you would get over 5/6h SOT
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I'm a heavy user anyway and I've never had a phone except the iPhone have more screen on time. I don't think it matters how it happens.
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