[Q] Who's to blame for battery drain? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My phone went from 90% batt to 0% in 5h of screen off time. Usage shows Android OS 60% and SopCast 30%.
When i locked the phone i left it on the home screen.
So who's to blame? The rom, kernel or the app?

could you please provide a bit more detail like what kernel or rom you have and also if you could upload screenshot of battery usage

Rule out your application first. I'm assuming SopCast is a podcast application? If you were streaming, that will explain it. And yes. We need more details.

Install betterbatterystats and find out whats keeping your phone awake
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kwibis said:
Install betterbatterystats and find out whats keeping your phone awake
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Thanks, i used to have it installed, but i could never interpret any results from it since the lingo is beyond me (i.e. partial wakelocks, kernel panics...).

dinuvali said:
Thanks, i used to have it installed, but i could never interpret any results from it since the lingo is beyond me (i.e. partial wakelocks, kernel panics...).
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Well the same here lol. However if you focus a bit you'll find out some nice things. Kernel wake lock will give you the apps that keep your phone awake. For me its mostly the exchange which is email. You can take a screen shot and share if you'd like.
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kwibis said:
Well the same here lol. However if you focus a bit you'll find out some nice things. Kernel wake lock will give you the apps that keep your phone awake. For me its mostly the exchange which is email. You can take a screen shot and share if you'd like.
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Kernel wakelocks was empty, so i SS-ed the partial wakelocks.
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Anyway this is no longer related to that obscene 90% overnight bcuz i uninstalled sopcast. Now i just had 16% drain overnight (with Wi-Fi off) which is still a lot imo.

Having 18% drain overnight on JB with wi-fi off. Any ideas?

Why are turning wifi off in the first place? That is stupid if you're trying to extend battery life.
What is your cell signal like. A crappy cell signal drains battery. A crappy 3g signal that is constantly on because you turned off wifi drains even more.

albundy2010 said:
Why are turning wifi off in the first place? That is stupid if you're trying to extend battery life.
What is your cell signal like. A crappy cell signal drains battery. A crappy 3g signal that is constantly on because you turned off wifi drains even more.
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i was under the impression (from gingerbread times) that wi-fi uses up more battery than 3g; this was among the tips you would find back then on android sites to extend battery life.
Anyway, i have yet to find out who is calling the AlarmManager that is keeping the device awake. Any idea how i would go about doing that?

converse5 said:
could you please provide a bit more detail like what kernel or rom you have and also if you could upload screenshot of battery usage
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Rule out your application first. I'm assuming SopCast is a podcast application? If you were streaming, that will explain it. And yes. We need more details.
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dinuvali said:
My phone went from 90% batt to 0% in 5h of screen off time. Usage shows Android OS 60% and SopCast 30%.
When i locked the phone i left it on the home screen.
So who's to blame? The rom, kernel or the app?
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Hi, like the other guys said that are trying to help u....
We need more information to try and help u figure it out.
What ROM?
What kernel?
Any other modes or tweaks?
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I didn't mention that info so far because the initial problem of this post is fixed (SopCast (podcast app) keeping phone in stream mode) by uninstalling the said app.
Now, i believe that the overnight drain on my current JB ROM is too high.
So, here it is: Rom is Grean Bean ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821478 ), kernel is Matr1x 22.5 (but the drain didnt change when i changed kernel (beladus, _thalamus, air) and the significant mods that the rom has are V6 supercharged and brainmaster's twks.

dinuvali said:
i was under the impression (from gingerbread times) that wi-fi uses up more battery than 3g; this was among the tips you would find back then on android sites to extend battery life.
That was not the case in GB times or any times. Either you read wrong or the sites are stupid. Considering that for the most part the android sites / bloggers are still idiots today, who knows.
Anyways. WiFi uses the least battery. Less the 3g/2g. Should be used whenever possible to save battery. Phone in active use or idle you should be connected to WiFi over cellular data. Turning all radios off but enabling WiFi is the most battery efficient thing you can do and still have data but you won't have the actual phone. I do that at my buddies house where I get no service at all. Not going to use the phone for a couple hrs use airplane mode. That uses very little power if the phone is sleep. Turning the phone off and on uses more.
Also the better your signal is the less power the phone will use. You still gave no signal strength info. Frankly you're wasting your time with better battery stats and wakelocks etc when you don't fully grasp this radio stuff. Use that tool when you need to find something that keeps your phone awake when idle/not in deep sleep.
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albundy2010 said:
Also the better your signal is the less power the phone will use. You still gave no signal strength info. Frankly you're wasting your time with better battery stats and wakelocks etc when you don't fully grasp this radio stuff. Use that tool when you need to find something that keeps your phone awake when idle/not in deep sleep.
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That's the situation i'm in. It seems i've solved it by figuring out which apps were calling the AlarmManager and the Media server, there were 2 actually: Latitude and Google Music Sync, that were waking too often. Now i've simply disabled them.
I didn't give any signal strength info, bcuz i didn't move and didn't change the radio. It's a jelly bean thing for sure (i have google now disabled). Many users have been complaining (in various rom threads) about this new found drain after the upgrade.

dinuvali said:
That's the situation i'm in. It seems i've solved it by figuring out which apps were calling the AlarmManager and the Media server, there were 2 actually: Latitude and Google Music Sync, that were waking too often. Now i've simply disabled them.
I didn't give any signal strength info, bcuz i didn't move and didn't change the radio. It's a jelly bean thing for sure (i have google now disabled). Many users have been complaining (in various rom threads) about this new found drain after the upgrade.
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Yeah, I normally play with a new ROM bare boned to see if has a natural drain.
Then I add the apps that I have been using that I know do not drain battery life.
And the other person is dead in with the signal advice. I had a HTC hero before and it had many tweaks on fixing the signal so battery would last. Which is why I love the pull down notification bar and some ROMs have idle timers.
Good luck
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[Q] Battery life. SKYICS rc7.3 ~ 9 HRS 43 MIN max charge.

I've had my skyrocket for about a month now, and I've had horrible horrible battery life compared to all of you guys on here. I've tried reflashing, did the whole .3e recovery/ wipe/ fresh install tutorial that Seanz posted. (Amazing rom by the way.)
Nothing seems to work. I've calibrated my battery at least 4 different times. Oh, and for Seanz, You say your rom is 2.3.5, but in my settings it says 2.3.6. My brightness is all the way down, My data, bluetooth, gps, etc are ALL OFF! Only thing I keep on is wifi, ALWAYS. I've tried leaving my phone off the charger all night and locked to see if the drain was the same, and it is, If not just a tad less drain. I'm sorry if I didn't clarify this good enough, If someone could help me out I'd be glad to explain myself better!
Does your phone maintain a strong to moderate signal (both data and talk)? This includes the strength of your WiFi connection. I've noticed one of the biggest (if not the biggest) drain on this phone and most others comes when the phone is strugling for a decent connection. If you can, try this: put your phone in "Airplane" mode for 1 charging cycle. This means your phone won't even try to get a wireless connection of any type. To be safe, make sure the "WiFi" is off as well. See how long the battery lasts compared to it not being in "Airplane" mode. If it still sucks, you might need to see which app(s) are draining your phone. If it is noticably different, a weak signal might be the problem. Good luck.
Interlaced said:
You say your rom is 2.3.5, but in my settings it says 2.3.6.
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He changed it only in text for certain apps that require Android 2.3.6, even though they'd work completely fine on 2.3.5. Somewhat an easy workaround. Also took some of the features from 2.3.6 in. It's still built from 2.3.5 though.
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Only thing I keep on is wifi, ALWAYS.
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Thiiiis is probably your big issue. If you have any apps running in the background that use data, they can keep the wifi awake, which, in turn, never lets your phone sleep. If you go to Settings>Wireless and network>Wi-fi Settings>Menu Button>Wi-Fi Sleep Policy, and set it to "When screen is off," you'll be AMAZED at how much life it can save. I've noticed drastic differences when that setting is applied. As far as without it losing around 10-15% overnight to a mere 1%.
Thanks for your replies! I'll try you guys' ideas out now. I seem to lose about 1-3 percent every 10 minutes. I'll put it in airplane mode and try it for an hour.
Thank you Fortune! was wondering how to do this, You could have just solved my problem. I'll keep you guys informed! I'm amazed at this communities helpfulness. Thank you!
No prob!
Though, next time, if you have a question, should post it in the Q&A section of this forum. People tend to get a bit pissy about seeing Q's posted in other places, haha. Just giving a heads up!
Hope those fixes fix your battery life! That wifi sleep on has been key for my 30+ hr battery lives on SkyICS.
Seemed to not help :| Since I've done this, It's gone from 22% to 17% in about 15-20 minutes. No apps running, etc.
Try downloading CPU Spy from the market place and after awhile of letting it rest (about an hour or so), open it, refresh and check to see the CPU uses the "Deep Sleep" frequency at all and to see which frequencies it spends most of its time in.
Also wouldn't hurt to check Settings>About Phone>Battery Use to see what's using most of your battery life. Display, Android System, and Android OS typically hold the top 3 spots, so if anything is up there (or at a close 4th), that app could be what's bogging it down.
I downloaded CPU Spy and it seemed to already have data for it and it says 4% in deep sleep, 65% in 38 mhz, 5% in 810 MHz, and 1% in 1026 mhz, 17% in 1728 MHz
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I downloaded CPU Spy and it seemed to already have data for it and it says 4% in deep sleep, 65% in 38 mhz, 5% in 810 MHz, and 1% in 1026 mhz, 17% in 1728 MHz
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Alright, well so far so good. Shows it's at least getting some deep sleep and able to idle in low frequencies. Can't really get TOO well of a reading until it's done some time with it idling though.
Do not set wifi policy to screen off, keep it at always. this will keep your data using wifi when connected which is way less of a drain than the 4g radio. Basically with the screen off policy your phone will still use data, it will just come from cellular instead of wifi when screen is off.
Also get this
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1&hl=en
It will tell you what is running constantly and draining your battery.
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colonel187 said:
Do not set wifi policy to screen off, keep it at always. this will keep your data using wifi when connected which is way less of a drain than the 4g radio. Basically with the screen off policy your phone will still use data, it will just come from cellular instead of wifi when screen is off.
Also get this
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1&hl=en
It will tell you what is running constantly and draining your battery.
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Since he has his data off, turning off the wifi with screen off will benefit him greatly. It would be stuck on otherwise. Noted:
Interlaced said:
My data, bluetooth, gps, etc are ALL OFF! Only thing I keep on is wifi, ALWAYS.
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And that app was one I was trying to think of and couldn't recall. Also definitely recommended.
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Since he has his data off, turning off the wifi with screen off will benefit him greatly. It would be stuck on otherwise. Noted:
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Ah ha. You are correct. I skipped over that detail. Just kidding about the wifi then. don't listen to me....
having wifi on all the time does not drain the battery...i have wifi on 24/7 an can easily get 36 hours
30% left and ive got 26 hours runninh wifi on
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polish_pat said:
having wifi on all the time does not drain the battery...i have wifi on 24/7 an can easily get 36 hours
30% left and ive got 26 hours runninh wifi on
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Ohwow.... That's....... Interesting, haha. If I notice my wifi is on for extended periods of time, my battery starts draining a bit faster than normal.
Might have some app in his background either keeping the phone awake or just hogging background data, keeping the wifi constantly active.
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the real issue is when i actually stop being on wifi. when my phone uses data connection, mostly LTE because its everywhere around me, the battery life becomes miserable. I left the house for about 1 hour today, you can clearly see it on the graph. I should try to cut all connectivity and just allow the phone to sync every now and then, im sure ill be able to add another half a day at least to my already 1.5 days with wifi on all the time
polish_pat said:
the real issue is when i actually stop being on wifi. when my phone uses data connection, mostly LTE because its everywhere around me, the battery life becomes miserable. I left the house for about 1 hour today, you can clearly see it on the graph. I should try to cut all connectivity and just allow the phone to sync every now and then, im sure ill be able to add another half a day at least to my already 1.5 days with wifi on all the time
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Yeah, data is a KILLER. For me, it's usually wifi or nothing, unless I'm trying to send or receive an MMS, or need to quickly access the Internet, but I turn it back off as soon as I'm done, and I set my network to no LTE because it's not in my area.
Just take that as a note OP, lol.
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Fortune090 said:
Yeah, data is a KILLER. For me, it's usually wifi or nothing, unless I'm trying to send or receive an MMS, or need to quickly access the Internet, but I turn it back off as soon as I'm done, and I set my network to no LTE because it's not in my area.
Just take that as a note OP, lol.
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Yeah same here. I notice more than sublet the battery life if I keep data off. I'm almost always in a wifi area so it doesn't affect me.
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It looks like your screen is almost never on. Thats what always consumes the most power on my phones, by far.
polish_pat said:
having wifi on all the time does not drain the battery...i have wifi on 24/7 an can easily get 36 hours
30% left and ive got 26 hours runninh wifi on
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This is mine....
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This is my usage when i dont touch LTE

Poor battery life on WiFi

Hi, can anyone help me solve this problem. I'm getting poor battery life from my Nexus S (stock 4.0.4) & android OS using a lot of battery. I've narrowed it down to WiFI - when I turn WiFi on, the battery depletes much faster than when I'm on 3G & android OS goes from ~7% to ~20% in battery stats. This is the opposite way around from what I would expect based on other posts, which say that WiFi uses less power than 3G. You can see the effect in the screenshot - for the entire time on this screenshot, I was at work with good 3G coverage & the WiFi point is right outside my office:
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I agree with you, stock 4.0.4, Matr1x kernel (but I get same results with Air kernel too) and wifi always on = poor battery life.
My workaround is keeping it off and switching it on only just before an autosync or when opening browser/Gmail (I do that with Tasker)
When WiFi is in use what are you doing?
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When WiFi is in use what are you doing?
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Essentially nothing. I checked the odd email, but for the most part the phone was in my pocket doing nothing.
have you got a background service that only runs on wifi?
also, in my experience, 3g only uses more battery when you're actually receiving data (e.g. browsing, data sync).
to me your battery stats don't look that bad, so my theory is that because you don't use your phone that much, anything that uses just a little bit of battery makes a big difference in battery use percentage.
but then again, I could be completely wrong...
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Aktifit said:
have you got a background service that only runs on wifi?
also, in my experience, 3g only uses more battery when you're actually receiving data (e.g. browsing, data sync).
to me your battery stats don't look that bad, so my theory is that because you don't use your phone that much, anything that uses just a little bit of battery makes a big difference in battery use percentage.
but then again, I could be completely wrong...
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Well one thign is for sure battery will always die faster on the network because most of the time if your in bad service areas it trys to fight for service therefore shi**ier battery life.
But @ Richstant do you disable mobile data manually like. For example because my NS4G is just deactivated on my Epic 4G i manually disable data and re enable when i use something so i save battery life.
I switched my sleep policy to while plugged in now. The difference with just switching the wifi on and off is really insane for me.
The way WiFi works while screen is off is hopeless on the Nexus S. I think it may be exagerrated because of the guzzling hardware as it seems no different on the GN or SGS3, though they dont drain nearly as much (i thought otherwise at first, unsure if it's on a phone-by-phone basis though). WiFi likes to stay on even if you set sleep policy otherwise - look at it funny and it will stay on and drain. This is something that i hope will improve in JB, but i doubt it. For now, best bet is set to Never (or plugged in, same effect) and switch it off manually if you won't be using it for long periods of time.
WiFi uses less power for large amounts of data and even browsing. It's faster, it doesn't need to send extra power and there is less thrashing to find the best signal. Data, however, is technically always there anyway as the radio is always powered, so if it only needs small amounts of constant data, it is often better for battery if you have good reception. This is one thing we i don't think we'll be worried about in newer phones, thankfully.
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Well one thign is for sure battery will always die faster on the network because most of the time if your in bad service areas it trys to fight for service therefore shi**ier battery life.
But @ Richstant do you disable mobile data manually like. For example because my NS4G is just deactivated on my Epic 4G i manually disable data and re enable when i use something so i save battery life.
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Reception is good, mobile data is on all the time.
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I switched my sleep policy to while plugged in now. The difference with just switching the wifi on and off is really insane for me.
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I'd forgotten about that setting, I'll try it now. In the past it's not worked for me though - the WiFi just stays on all the time no matter what.
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The way WiFi works while screen is off is hopeless on the Nexus S. I think it may be exagerrated because of the guzzling hardware as it seems no different on the GN or SGS3, though they dont drain nearly as much (i thought otherwise at first, unsure if it's on a phone-by-phone basis though). WiFi likes to stay on even if you set sleep policy otherwise - look at it funny and it will stay on and drain. This is something that i hope will improve in JB, but i doubt it. For now, best bet is set to Never (or plugged in, same effect) and switch it off manually if you won't be using it for long periods of time.
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Thanks for the info - sounds like it might be just the way this handset is :-( I don't remember it being this way under gingerbread, the WiFi turned off properly when it slept then, and battery life was much better.
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Reception is good, mobile data is on all the time.
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I'd still disable the mobile data even regardless of how good the reception is it'll still save you more juice in the long end
You don't have any apps set to auto-upload or backup anything (e.g. Dropbox Camera Uploads, G+ Instant Upload) once it connects to Wifi do you?
Harbb said:
The way WiFi works while screen is off is hopeless on the Nexus S. I think it may be exagerrated because of the guzzling hardware as it seems no different on the GN or SGS3, though they dont drain nearly as much (i thought otherwise at first, unsure if it's on a phone-by-phone basis though). WiFi likes to stay on even if you set sleep policy otherwise - look at it funny and it will stay on and drain. This is something that i hope will improve in JB, but i doubt it. For now, best bet is set to Never (or plugged in, same effect) and switch it off manually if you won't be using it for long periods of time.
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Hmm, that option worked fine for me, when I unlock the phone, there's a 1-2 second delay before the wifi icon comes up, if I am not plugged in, that is.
I have latitude on all the time, I am suspecting that latitude is the one that causes my battery drain WHILE wifi is on, since there's just too much wifi hotspots around here, and if latitude is triggered everytime there's a new wifi hotspot discovered, then it will have a lot of updating to do. Using the sleep mode doesn't cut down the number of wakelocks (reported by BetteryBatteryStats) that those LocationServices triggers however, but battery life does seemed to be saved, especially on the days where I rarely use my phone.
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You don't have any apps set to auto-upload or backup anything (e.g. Dropbox Camera Uploads, G+ Instant Upload) once it connects to Wifi do you?
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I would look at this also. If there is an app that has some connection with wifi (i think this would be done through intents but i'm not very familiar), it may either keep wifi on or awaken it from sleep periodically (where it looks like other apps/features take over and continue using it instead of shutting it off immediately). Maps and something from Android OS or Android System seem to be main culprits if the battery page is to be believed. BetterBatteryStats can help, but haven't gained that much information in regard to wifi - though is priceless in most other areas.
Edit: Didn't see the last post (got distracted lol). That could be it. Note that in BBS you should also look at the number of wakeups, not just the time wakelocked. Obviously you can rack up a lot of wakeup attempts and still show only 1s of actual wakelock, but it adds up immensely from there - particularly when some other apps are triggered because they are notified wifi is temporarily "active" when it shouldn't be. Also, these are my experiences and not coding fact, so take them with a grain of salt and listen to those wiser than I
Well I'm pleased to say I got a serious improvement in battery life by setting wifi to off when not in use (except when charging). I tried that under 4.0.3 & it didn't work, but it seems to work correctly under 4.0.4.
wow, I didn't even know there was a "wifi on during sleep only when plugged in" option. I knew juice defender and other similar apps did something like that, but didn't know it was built into ICS (or CM9 )
thanked for the tip

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Hi guys, I am from Peru and I have the team this thread. I want you to know how much they long does the battery if you leave the 3g on with the screen off without using it, the reason is because my phone with the screen off and not much use to me lasting 9 hours and do not know why?
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Hi guys, I am from Peru and I have the team this thread. I want you to know how much they long does the battery if you leave the 3g on with the screen off without using it, the reason is because my phone with the screen off and not much use to me lasting 9 hours and do not know why?
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It depends on a lot of things. I think it should last longer than 9 hours with little use, but if you have things like FaceBook or newsfeeds or weather updating frequently, that could wear it down. If your 3G signal is weak, that could definitely wear it down.
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It depends on a lot of things. I think it should last longer than 9 hours with little use, but if you have things like FaceBook or newsfeeds or weather updating frequently, that could wear it down. If your 3G signal is weak, that could definitely wear it down.
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thank you very much for the info, I think my battery is damaged. Today I leave with 71% battery in 3 hours and 50% battery low, only had 3g but because data was transferred to a prepaid chip. As I can see if my battery is damaged?
I usually last ~36 hours, data and screen off.
Did you check to see what is using up your battery in Settings? I can easily last for over 24 hours with the display off, or otherwise known as standby mode.
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If your keeping it in your pocket and/or in an area where it is going in and out of signal, it will go through battery very quickly. Even spending a hour in a store where you get no signal. I have noticed a more poor signal in my pants pocket vs a shirt/coat pocket. It will show underneathe the battery graph as red under signal. I agree also that having a ton of apps syncing will eat battery on mobile data, also things like gps, bluetooth, wifi on with no connection, ect.
I normally lose about 25% during a 9 hour work day, with 4G on. But I don't run alot of apps that need syncing (all set to manual), only have google contacts syncing on, and I'm in a constant good signal area. That's with a few google searches, email checks, and forum checks.
Edit: I'm on CM10 with blue lightning, smartassV2 w/stock clocks.
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Did you check to see what is using up your battery in Settings? I can easily last for over 24 hours with the display off, or otherwise known as standby mode.
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yes , appears display 49% in screen , android system 13% , Android so 6% and others app in six or five percent. but when i no use my screen , this rare my battery
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If your keeping it in your pocket and/or in an area where it is going in and out of signal, it will go through battery very quickly. Even spending a hour in a store where you get no signal. I have noticed a more poor signal in my pants pocket vs a shirt/coat pocket. It will show underneathe the battery graph as red under signal. I agree also that having a ton of apps syncing will eat battery on mobile data, also things like gps, bluetooth, wifi on with no connection, ect.
I normally lose about 25% during a 9 hour work day, with 4G on. But I don't run alot of apps that need syncing (all set to manual), only have google contacts syncing on, and I'm in a constant good signal area. That's with a few google searches, email checks, and forum checks.
Edit: I'm on CM10 with blue lightning, smartassV2 w/stock clocks.
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que envidia
yuyoelmero said:
yes , appears display 49% in screen , android system 13% , Android so 6% and others app in six or five percent. but when i no use my screen , this rare my battery
que envidia
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Just curious... are you running CM10? I've noticed that even though my screen isn't on I was getting a ton of battery drain from the screen regardless of kernel used... so I went back to Tweaked.
Now I get a 1% loss per hour with WiFi & sync on and WiFi calling active when the screen is constantly off.
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Just curious... are you running CM10? I've noticed that even though my screen isn't on I was getting a ton of battery drain from the screen regardless of kernel used... so I went back to Tweaked.
Now I get a 1% loss per hour with WiFi & sync on and WiFi calling active when the screen is constantly off.
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yes i got cm10 , my kernel is the standard. other detail is my phone have a temperature of 35 celcius grade in wifi mode and hspa+ mode is of 43 celcius grade
i read somewhere this battery works for Galaxy S Blaze
it's $20: http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Samsung-3850mAh-Extended-Battery/dp/B006SKHIKG
And seems to have more juice than the default battery.
Anyone try this one out? Results?
chandrew said:
i read somewhere this battery works for Galaxy S Blaze
it's $20: http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Samsung-3850mAh-Extended-Battery/dp/B006SKHIKG
And seems to have more juice than the default battery.
Anyone try this one out? Results?
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thank you very much for your information. Only what you read or someone that honest? Because I believe that the lid will credit Friend
chandrew said:
i read somewhere this battery works for Galaxy S Blaze
it's $20: http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Samsung-3850mAh-Extended-Battery/dp/B006SKHIKG
And seems to have more juice than the default battery.
Anyone try this one out? Results?
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Just FYI, the user had a Galaxy Nexus GSM I9250 and Galaxy S Blaze and verified it worked. Hopefully the extended Nexus battery isn't bigger in size. Just double check the size of the Blaze's.
I'm starting to want to upgrade my battery haha, maybe when mine is grows weak.
yuyoelmero said:
yes i got cm10 , my kernel is the standard. other detail is my phone have a temperature of 35 celcius grade in wifi mode and hspa+ mode is of 43 celcius grade
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Flash this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959657
It is suburb on battery life plus you can set a Governor to what you like.
chjema said:
Flash this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959657
It is suburb on battery life plus you can set a Governor to what you like.
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ok , but we already probe
chjema said:
Flash this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959657
It is suburb on battery life plus you can set a Governor to what you like.
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friend , i tested this kernel but is equal in my option baterry appears consumption in the process "system android"30 percent and " SO android" 12 percent
Any idea?
yuyoelmero said:
friend , i tested this kernel but is equal in my option baterry appears consumption in the process "system android"30 percent and " SO android" 12 percent
Any idea?
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You need to set a governor
chjema said:
You need to set a governor
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Ok man then i select a gb and coment , thank's
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You need to set a governor
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hello friend. Now install the kernel, and I gave a charge to the battery, choose a governor but still the same battery is spent like water, I will upload a picture of what is consumed.
The battery was at 76% and I the consumer up to 73% and went to sleep, this was it consumed:
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sounds like it's a weak battery. might need a new one.

Realy Realy Poor Batterylife!!!! :eek:

Hello,
I need your help with my battery life, i am running 4.4.2 (everything is stock, Google now is dissabled, and no apps where running in background) on my N5 and since i updated my battery life is juster terrible. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Before i updated and i was running 4.4 my battery life was realy great.
here are some screenshots of my battery life with 4.4.2.:
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i get similar results since upgrading to 4.4.2. From what i see it has to do with a combination of google play services and/or google now. it's driving me nuts too. My device is rooted, no custom rom or kernel, Greenify and Snapdragon Pro battery save app and im getting terrible results. What use to be a typical 10% drain by the end of the day (minimal usage), now i'm getting 50% drain by the end of the day. I only seem improvements after rebooting my device.
inspiron41 said:
i get similar results since upgrading to 4.4.2. From what i see it has to do with a combination of google play services and/or google now. it's driving me nuts too. My device is rooted with Greenify and Snapdragon Pro battery save app and im getting terrible results. What use to be a typical 10% drain by the end of the day (minimal usage), now i'm getting 50% drain by the end of the day. I only seem improvements after rebooting my device.
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I dont think so, i have GoogleNow dissabled but my battery still dies very quick :/
LegendaryLengend said:
I dont think so, i have GoogleNow dissabled but my battery still dies very quick :/
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yeah i'm with you, i even disable google now and i'm getting similar energy drain rates too...
Ohh okay, so noone figgured out what causes it? Or how to improve the batterylife? I cant seem to find anything on several forums...
battery life is dependent on how you personally set up your device, what apps you have installed, how you manage your apps, and, very importantly, the quality of your phone/data connection plays a huge role in battery life(huge might be an understatement).
My battery is also worse with 4.2.2 -- not catastrophic, but probably a good 15% (roughly) performance drop. What I've noticed, but haven't seen any other mention of, is a tremendous increase in the number of wakes when the phone should be sleeping. With 4.2 it slept like a baby, barely sipping any juice at all, but now it's doing something every few minutes. I am pure stock, unrooted, no custom anything and don't have facebook. Just about everything's turned on -- as it was under 4.2. My only 'exotic' app is Chrome beta which does seem to be a battery hog, but that shouldn't account for this aspect of performance.
(added per comment above) Phone/data connections are identical from 4.2/4.2.2 so it is the update -- or probably just as likely, some app that needs tweaking to play nice with 4.2.2
I had the same problem after updating to 4.4.2. Turning "Backup my data" under "Backup & reset" off worked for me.
I have read in other XDA forums that 4.4.2 may be more honest about battery usage now where before it was front loading battery stats to give the illusion of better performance.
I believe most cell phone manufacturers and carriers regularly do this with battery stats and signal strength.
What is important is your individual performance. Looks like your battery is at about 70% after 9.5 hours. What is wrong with that?
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jlander said:
I have read in other XDA forums that 4.4.2 may be more honest about battery usage now where before it was front loading battery stats to give the illusion of better performance.
I believe most cell phone manufacturers and carriers regularly do this with battery stats and signal strength.
What is important is your individual performance. Looks like your battery is at about 70% after 9.5 hours. What is wrong with that?
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@everyone in this thread with problems. BetterBatteryStats log.
Yeah your battery looks fine
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jlander said:
I have read in other XDA forums that 4.4.2 may be more honest about battery usage now where before it was front loading battery stats to give the illusion of better performance.
I believe most cell phone manufacturers and carriers regularly do this with battery stats and signal strength.
What is important is your individual performance. Looks like your battery is at about 70% after 9.5 hours. What is wrong with that?
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It was over night and i had a screen on time oft 2 Minutes and the battery still droppes a whooping 30%... Thats not normal
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LegendaryLengend said:
It was over night and i had a screen on time oft 2 Minutes and the battery still droppes a whooping 30%... Thats not normal
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I feel like my phones battery life has gotten better. I can get about 3-3.5 hours of screen time on my battery, ~17 hours. Reset the phone and don't install any apps, to see how its working. Are you getting signal all the time? Or is it jumping in and out? Because if it is, it'll drain the battery too
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These are my battery stats... They suck
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kanyewest said:
These are my battery stats... They suck
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BetterBatteryStats log.
50% less in two hours, no games, just whatsapp and spotify, screen at min. Worst battery life I've had in Android phones
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My battery life is excellent on this phone, and the majority of the time it's better than any other phone that I've owned (12 of them, to be exact).....and then either Google + or Chrome will start running really aggressively in the background and kill 20% of my battery within the space of a half hour. This happens even when I haven't actually opened either app. It doesn't happen often, and a reboot seems to fix it, but it's really, really annoying.
But yeah, fantastic battery life other than that issue.
Disable location reporting. This should help. I notice a huge difference. Also, when I have Facebook installed, I seem to get terrible battery life compared to when I just use it in the browser.
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Disable location reporting. This should help. I notice a huge difference. Also, when I have Facebook installed, I seem to get terrible battery life compared to when I just use it in the browser.
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Disabling location reporting is one of the first things I do on any new phone. It's not worth the battery drain you end up having, and Google Now works fine without it.
I've actually been surprised with how good the battery life is at times but I have to admit it's not always very consistent.
Wi-Fi is on during sleep "Only when plugged in" and "Scanning always available" is off.
Location Mode is "battery saving" unless I need to use google nav.
Location reporting on, history off and I am not using google now. Also using Nova Launcher.
Not using Facebook, Google+ or Twitter.
Using Xposed Framework with the paid version of Greenify. Google Search, Hangouts, Keep and YouTube are the only "system" apps I have "Hibernated."

[Q] MAXX High Battery Usage (High Android OS Usage)

Hi I have a just got a MAXX and updated to 4.4 without root. I found that my battery is not staying up as long as it should, it lasts for like 18 hours. The following are the details:
- Canadian user, Fido sim card, exceptionally bad reception (3 bars tops indoors) (My Phonto Q / Razr Maxx gets full bar when I plug in the same sim card)
- Screen On time at about 3-4 hours
- Rarely turn on data
- Rarely Game on Phone
- Non-rooted
- I keep wifi turned on, connected most of the time
- Use apex launcher instead of MotLauncher
- Active Display, Touchless Control on
- Location Services are in "Battery Saving Mode" (Meaning the phone uses wifi and mobile network to estimate location)
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? If so, is there any solution? I see a similar thread made early but that is for the Ultra, and even the ultra got around 12 hours of discharge time
Edit: So far based on doogald 's reply, I suspect its the poor reception thats draining the battery, the following photos shows the reception differences across different devices with the same sim card
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Razr Maxx XT910 with the same fido sim card (KK CM11 with root)
Photon Q XT897 with the same fido sim card (JB CarbonRom with Root)
How long have you had 4.4? When I have updated or changed ROMs, it seems that it takes the software a little bit of time to catch up getting to know the battery.
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That's a little more drain than I would see for the same screen on time. Bad signal will definitely drain a battery faster. Forget about stupid bars - what is your signal in dBm? (Settings->more (under Wireless & Networks)->Mobile networks->Network type & strength. Also in settings->about phone->Status->Network type & strength).
The number will be negative. For GSM or CDMA, anything less than (more negative) than -100 dBm is a bad signal and the phone will amp up the antenna to try to pull in signal.
Based on your battery screenshots, though, it's probably not bad signal - I think "cell standby" would be a higher drain if that was the case.
Khanusma said:
How long have you had 4.4? When I have updated or changed ROMs, it seems that it takes the software a little bit of time to catch up getting to know the battery.
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doogald said:
That's a little more drain than I would see for the same screen on time. Bad signal will definitely drain a battery faster. Forget about stupid bars - what is your signal in dBm? (Settings->more (under Wireless & Networks)->Mobile networks->Network type & strength. Also in settings->about phone->Status->Network type & strength).
The number will be negative. For GSM or CDMA, anything less than (more negative) than -100 dBm is a bad signal and the phone will amp up the antenna to try to pull in signal.
Based on your battery screenshots, though, it's probably not bad signal - I think "cell standby" would be a higher drain if that was the case.
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I have had 4.4 for exactly 10 days now, i think everything should be settled by now
My signal is around -97dBm, and it jumps from that to No Service. I dont understand why this phone have such terrible reception though. I had two other phones try the same sim card and they have excellent reception.
BlueEditionE6 said:
I have had 4.4 for exactly 10 days now, i think everything should be settled by now
My signal is around -97dBm, and it jumps from that to No Service. I dont understand why this phone have such terrible reception though. I had two other phones try the same sim card and they have excellent reception.
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Got ya. I have been having poor Bluetooth connectivity. People have been complaining that can't hear me well. Phone reception send to be poorer as well .
Can't comment on battery.
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Khanusma said:
Got ya. I have been having poor Bluetooth connectivity. People have been complaining that can't hear me well. Phone reception send to be poorer as well .
Can't comment on battery.
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So will you say the phone have a bad reception in general? Or is it just because I am not with Verizon and its being s b**** to me ?
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So will you say the phone have a bad reception in general? Or is it just because I am not with Verizon and its being s b**** to me ?
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I couldn't say I had problems before.
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Question- are you rooted and using xposed framework? Things that heavily mod the stock system, like GravityBox or Xblast can easily have that affect. Even smaller things like the smooth progress bar can hit it. The more changes, the harder the system has to work to keep up
livinitwarrior said:
Question- are you rooted and using xposed framework? Things that heavily mod the stock system, like GravityBox or Xblast can easily have that affect. Even smaller things like the smooth progress bar can hit it. The more changes, the harder the system has to work to keep up
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as stated, this device is not rooted
BlueEditionE6 said:
as stated, this device is not rooted
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whoops. missed that, sorry
Any change in this? Have the same thing on my Mini, haven't been able to figure it out yet.
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Any change in this? Have the same thing on my Mini, haven't been able to figure it out yet.
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nothing happening yet~
I have terrible reception at home and work and am getting 7 or so hours of screen on time. Constant switching between 4g/3g and sometimes to 2g.
I'd suggest trying a program like betterbatterystats or similar to see if there's a wakelock keeping the phone from going into deep sleep mode (processor shuts off) when the display is turned off. Also cpuspy will show you if it's deep sleeping. It won't deep sleep while charging btw, this is normal.
For me the problem was the Facebook app. I disabled it and not only did my battery life significantly improve, but so did my productivity Info about wakelocks, if you're interested - http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html
Pain in the butt but there's always the factory reset option too.
hawkswind1 said:
I have terrible reception at home and work and am getting 7 or so hours of screen on time. Constant switching between 4g/3g and sometimes to 2g.
I'd suggest trying a program like betterbatterystats or similar to see if there's a wakelock keeping the phone from going into deep sleep mode (processor shuts off) when the display is turned off. Also cpuspy will show you if it's deep sleeping. It won't deep sleep while charging btw, this is normal.
For me the problem was the Facebook app. I disabled it and not only did my battery life significantly improve, but so did my productivity Info about wakelocks, if you're interested - http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html
Pain in the butt but there's always the factory reset option too.
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PowerMangerService.wakeLocks and radio-interface is keeping the kernel awake??/
Having the same issue. 4.4% per hour
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PowerMangerService.wakeLocks and radio-interface is keeping the kernel awake??/
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PowerManagerService.wakelocks is the sum of all your partial wake locks, so you need to look at your partial wakelocks
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PowerManagerService.wakelocks is the sum of all your partial wake locks, so you need to look at your partial wakelocks
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Not sure why this worked, but it did. At least through one day of testing
I ready elsewhere on Droid X forum someplace I think about draining the battery completely until your phone shuts off and then recharging. It's supposed to re-calibrate it. Sounds sketchy at best I know, but it seems to have worked!
I did this with my ultra followed by charging to full and did a factory reset. My phone seems to be normal again.
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PowerManagerService.wakelocks is the sum of all your partial wake locks, so you need to look at your partial wakelocks
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It doesnt show my partial wakelocks, when i select that option, nothing shows up
TerrorTodd said:
Not sure why this worked, but it did. At least through one day of testing
I ready elsewhere on Droid X forum someplace I think about draining the battery completely until your phone shuts off and then recharging. It's supposed to re-calibrate it. Sounds sketchy at best I know, but it seems to have worked!
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i tried that, doesnt help
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It doesnt show my partial wakelocks, when i select that option, nothing shows up
i tried that, doesnt help
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try using the wakelock detector" app

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