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Hello all,
I have one short question: with my keyboard closed, I have a little movement in the corners when i push it around. Is that normal or not?
Thank you.
Apparently so...
Iv not got the phone yet but theres been allot of talk about it.
I have it too, so I suppose it's 'normal'.
robal said:
I have it too, so I suppose it's 'normal'.
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It's not "normal" to say this, but I'm glad that there is nothing wrong only with my device. I was alredy thinking about sending it back for service...
Its a slider mechanism - if it didnt have any play then some would break!! Manufacturing tolerences etc need to be taken into account. A samll amount of play is fine.
paulyluca said:
Hello all,
I have one short question: with my keyboard closed, I have a little movement in the corners when i push it around. Is that normal or not?
Thank you.
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I've discussed this already with the HTC service and they told me to send the unit to them. They will change sliding mechanism. My phone is currently in the service with this "feature" :-(
I hope they will fix it. Such a good phone, but this really looks like manufacturing problem.
anyone knows if they are going to release a "fixed" version?
How much is a little movement, my TP moves around but not to the point I would say it's an issue
thebiscuitboy said:
How much is a little movement, my TP moves around but not to the point I would say it's an issue
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1-3 millimeters, depends on the pressure.
When you press the volume button on the left side, it rolls about 1-2mm. When you press it more, it is about 3 mm. I guess this is too much.
Official statement is that some kind of allowance is normal and ok, but there is no strict direction from HTC - public statement.
Well if they consider this to be normal, I think there won't be any "fixed" version available, but as you know, all manufacturers make improvements during the time. So maybe ...
Okay thanks
Like I say it's currently not an issue, but will keep an eye on it
I realize this is an old thread, but I wanted to resurface the issue. I've had a new Fuze for the past few months, that had very little 'play' when pressing buttons.
I recently did a warranty exchange and the refurb wobbled considerably more than the original phone. A little bit of wobbling is expected, but it was downright unbearable to use, and I have since asked for a replacement.
Much like a poster in this thread, I would do something as simple as hit the volume up button and the rest of the phone would move around significantly. This is not normal, in my opinion!
If I push on the plastic between the USB & 3.5mm jack, that portion moves & squeaks. It's very little and so far the only real problem I've had with the phone, but it's driving me crazy. It rarely does it through normal use but now I find myself pushing it all the time. If you push in the same area does your phone do the same thing?
Fortunately, there is no real reason to press there unless you enjoy the squeaking sound.
mmas0n said:
Fortunately, there is no real reason to press there unless you enjoy the squeaking sound.
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"Doctor, Doctor, my arm hurts when I do this!"
"Then stop doing that."
Haha yes I see your points. I did mention, however, that I do push it through normal use occasionally. Most of the time I am just doing it as a Pavlovian response.
Just humor me for a moment, do you guys get the same response when pushing?
More of a creaking than a squeaking, but yes. There really doesn't feel like there is much movement though and the phone still feels solid.
Thought i was the only one, noticed it once when i was plugging in my USB, not really a cause for concern
Seems like a common issue, I've had two now and both were like that. First one was a little worse.
Sent from my Nexus S
dls5375 said:
Seems like a common issue, I've had two now and both were like that. First one was a little worse.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Yeah, there's a slight squeak/creek on mine as well just to the left of the USB port.
I don't think this is Nexus S specific, however, because the same creak in nearly the same spot existed on my MT4G. Which makes me wonder if this is by design somehow... then again, the tear down on iFixit doesn't reveal anything of note in that location.
No creaking here, even when I hold it right next to my ear and try to get it to squeak.
I got my tab back from RMA (doa) they replaced the screen and there is now a speck between the screen and glass... I can live with the light bleed but this speck is frikin annoying Its not a dead pixel with the device off it is clearly seen under the glass... HELP i am sooo annoyed and I dont want to rma again! How do you take this thing apart?
Thanks!
You don't want to risk taking the thing apart. If you **** it up it's your fault and Asus will NOT give you free warranty service after the fact.
If you can't live with it you have to call Asus and tell them you want them to fix this. They'll probably tell you to prove that they did this by taking a picture of something that's impossible to take a picture of.
Good luck. Another casualty of ****ty Asus QC and an even ****tier RMA service.
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You don't want to risk taking the thing apart. If you **** it up it's your fault and Asus will NOT give you free warranty service after the fact.
If you can't live with it you have to call Asus and tell them you want them to fix this. They'll probably tell you to prove that they did this by taking a picture of something that's impossible to take a picture of.
Good luck. Another casualty of ****ty Asus QC and an even ****tier RMA service.
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Why do you **** on every thread that has anything to do with with Asus support or QC of these devices?
If you hate the thing, sell it and buy something you like.
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mmmmmk I rooted so I don't care about warranty... I am pretty good at this stuff... if not I know a guy that is a freakin meticulous electronical surgeon.... he made me new insides of the left button on my g9x mouse when the copper wore out.. if I mess it up he'll fix it. Best part hes fam so he does it for free ;D
Would just like a rough idea before I tear into it.
If you hate the thing, sell it and buy something you like.
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No. (LOL)
I don't hate the TF, I do hate the way service is handled. Your whole post and your line of reasoning is so ****ing flawed it makes me embarassed just to see how embarassing you are. A case of serious contact embarassment. I should sell the TF and I must hate it because I hate how Asus runs things and I hate their QC? Are you stupid or just deficient?
By the way, ****ting on threads would be like what you're doing, making a moronic post that doesn't even begin to answer the OP on a thread, instead you sidetrack the whole discussion. Great job you selfish asshole. I don't "**** on" threads, I tell it like it is. I don't lie about the RMA process or QC, it's the truth (in less than flattering terms) and it's relevant to the OP. Next time you want to send me a love letter go do it by PM instead of hijacking another persons thread.
mmmmmk I rooted so I don't care about warranty...
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You can unroot it and "preserve" that warranty. This isn't really a good reason to go ahead and rip through it.
I am pretty good at this stuff...
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Sounds good until you miss a clip and break it. It doesn't really matter how good you or your fam is at doing this. There's a chance for anything to break especially when you're dealing with a particular device you haven't had any experience disassembling before.
Would just like a rough idea before I tear into it.
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There was a disassembly thread somewhere here that shows a minor teardown. Do a google search for it. Although I'm not sure it goes as far as the screen and glass. In addition you have no way to guarantee that you won't introduce more dust since I doubt you own a clean room. I highly advise you contact Asus first, you don't want to do this. There are too many risks that outweigh removing a stupid fleck from between the screen and glass. You'll end up breaking clips that hold the back to the bezel and then you finish up the job, fire the unit up and FUUUUUUUUUUU there are eight huge pieces of dust under the screen. Oops.
My I noticed a spec of dust last night on my TF and concur that its driving me crazy! Would asus' warranty cover something like this?
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Would asus' warranty cover something like this?
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Yes, but I don't know, if a single dust speck is enough.
Im done with this tab... it burnt the hand that uses it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15637454#post15637454
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Xoom for $400
figured I would post one last update and fix for anyone else affected. I (accidentally) dropped it and it went away as well as the sd card heating up issue. So if anyone else has any issues with this tablet try smacking it into the floor (Hard wood is preferred but it should also work with tile)
kthnxbie
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hghivtnkhejph4r/P1010443.JPG
On top is my Galaxy Note II, and on the bottom is my Galaxy Note 3. Not sure if it's all devices or its just on some including mine. It is adjusted by firmware as other galaxy models have demonstrated in the past, so I think it will probably be adjusted in a firmware update in the future, but I just thought I would share. I had my device on at full brightness with auto adjust screen tones off. Then I took a 15 second exposure on my DSLR to confirm that at least "2", and "1" are indeed crushed, and the pixels representing the block for those numbers emit no light at all.
The mess around the numbers are probably jpeg artifacts.
I got the file from an old Galaxy Note (1) thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559800
Here's a copy of the file. It may look mostly black, but it's not. You would need to look at it in a dark room to see it on maximum brightness.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fale5naqlpbwei/gammatest-xda.png
I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I know, right?!
I also don't understand how some guys who see a "pointless" thread have the need to take actual time from their supposedly busy lives to bash the threads instead of simply moving on with their lives, understanding that they aren't the standard-setters for what is or isn't important to other people.
Not this again, I remember people bleeting about this in the S2 days, if it does have a small issue, who cares, it's not like your TV where you watch media on it all the while you're at home. Think I can cope with the small issue with occasional film I may watch on it.
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Before everyone freaks out, here's some background. The issue OP's discussing has been around since the first AMOLED display. It's varied in severity on different models of Samsung phones.
Here's a SGS3 vs. N2 comparison done by SuperCurio...
Here's the video with SuperCurio explaining the issue...
Here's OP's N2 vs. N3 comparison...
Compared to other Samsung devices the issue on the N3 is relatively minor. It can also vary from display to display and updates have impacted it before. As OP said, the issue's pretty minor on the N3; at least to compared to some of Samsung's other phones. OP, is the device you're using pre-release or production (retail)?
It is what it is. From what's been shown I'm not concerned. Let's see some more sample's from production phones from different regions before we all freak out.
polish_pat said:
I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I totally agree with you !
polish_pat said:
I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
Thanks for letting us know, Mike. Hope to see more youtube videos from you about the note3.
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Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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Even when you buy a 5000$ laptop, screen bleeding and dead pixels will be there and they are accepted as being an industry standard. The real issue is it doesnt affect in any way how you use or enjoy the device, so why complain. All devices i had, had an XDA thread with hundreds of people that compalined about greens that are too green, or "blobs" for those that had an S3....its ridiculous. Thats how screens are made, they arent perfect
This post brings me back those very unpleasent memories of black clipping which suffered my first Samsung Galaxy Note.(quivering)
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Even when you buy a 5000$ laptop, screen bleeding and dead pixels will be there and they are accepted as being an industry standard. The real issue is it doesnt affect in any way how you use or enjoy the device, so why complain. All devices i had, had an XDA thread with hundreds of people that compalined about greens that are too green, or "blobs" for those that had an S3....its ridiculous. Thats how screens are made, they arent perfect
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accepted by you maybe... I'd make them eat the laptop if they didn't give me what was advertised.
and in daily use when are you going to notice this? i had a note 2 for 6 months and didnt have an issue. you guys get too worried and worked up about such little stuff
Dan37tz said:
Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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I agree. It's more so awareness rather than complaining about it. To be blindsided with issues post purchase would be worse than knowing walking into it
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accepted by you maybe... I'd make them eat the laptop if they didn't give me what was advertised.
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Its not accepted by me, its an industry standard. Do you know what that means? ISO certification of screen allow 3-5 dead pixels and screen bleeding
Dan37tz said:
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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It's not the "what," it's the "how." I'm tired of scintillating thread titles declaring the end of the world as we know it backed up by little evidence or circumstantial opinion as their basis. Your "the N3 lags like the SGS4" thread comes to mind. You started it based on something you saw in an Italian review that turned out to be the opposite of what you posted once it was translated by an Italian XDA member.
I do agree with you though. I want to know what the issues (and there are bound to be issues) with the N3 are. But I'd like some context (when, where, how many, and how often) to go along with them so I can figure out what they'll mean to me. Spoiler alert: if I have to lock myself in a dark room and adjust settings to levels I'd never normally use to replicate a problem then, for me, it's not a problem. Of course YMMV.
This thread's a good example of how to introduce an issue. OP titled the thread "minor" rather than using "OMG!!!" and "THIS IS AWFUL!!!" and posted documentation to support what he found. That leaves it up to the audience to form their own opinions. And whether it's what OP posted or other issues that have been discussed the friggin' phone isn't even in people's hands yet. So disaster could be on the horizon in a number of areas but it's a bit too early to declare "the sky is falling."
Peace out.
Adapt display
I saw an "adapt display" option in this Note 3 video: http://youtu.be/S2Yr7PvgKQw?t=8m52s
Do you think calibrating the screen with it would solve the problem?
vgergo said:
I saw an "adapt display" option in this Note 3 video: http://youtu.be/S2Yr7PvgKQw?t=8m52s
Do you think calibrating the screen with it would solve the problem?
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adapt display has nothing to do with calibration, just like in the S4, it just changes color saturation
I can't believe u ****s are still buying Samsung phone since u know they have black crush issue.if amoled bothers u so much,why buy Samsung phone.u can go buy HTC of lg.every device have some issues even ur beloved I phones.stop with these stupid threads.if you have to find faults with microscopes then tell everyone to check their phones.only reason I'm posting because of some people want perfect phone keep calling for warranty replacement and when I have real issue with my phone then att gives me hard time replacing it.
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I can't believe u ****s are still buying Samsung phone since u know they have black crush issue.if amoled bothers u so much,why buy Samsung phone.u can go buy HTC of lg.every device have some issues even ur beloved I phones.stop with these stupid threads.if you have to find faults with microscopes then tell everyone to check their phones.only reason I'm posting because of some people want perfect phone keep calling for warranty replacement and when I have real issue with my phone then at gives me hard time replacing it.
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would you mind me quoting/linking your post to my signature?
polish_pat said:
Its not accepted by me, its an industry standard. Do you know what that means? ISO certification of screen allow 3-5 dead pixels and screen bleeding
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Thank god industry standard just means how much they can get away with before enough people feed their laptops back to them. Never take crap laying down. Always complain if you feel like something's not right. How else would things change for the better?
Okay, I'm going to make this quick, I'm thinking of getting the Sony Xperia Z3, I'm super excited about it and everything, but this Screen Cracking Issue has got to me enough to post this thread. Has the Screen Cracking issue been fixed? Can someone with good knowledge about this reply? Maybe others can benefit from this thread too!
Thanks in advance!
So nobody wants to reply..?
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So nobody wants to reply..?
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You left it an hour between posts - calm down.
Well, what do you think? Is there an issue? If there's no issue, can it be fixed? Are you sure all the people who claim their screen just broke for no reason aren't lying? You'll notice what look like impact damage on some of the photos of people who've had their screens just break. That's odd. Does glass just break on its own? How is that? How many Z3s have been manufactured? What percentage have broken? Pick a point of failure on a phone. "Doesn't charge". "Touch screen not working". "Poor reception". Now google for that term, adding the model of any phone released in the last 5 years. Loads of hits, huh? Funny, that. It's almost as if some mass produced devices are always going to fail either initially, or after a certain amount of use.
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You left it an hour between posts - calm down.
Well, what do you think? Is there an issue? If there's no issue, can it be fixed? Are you sure all the people who claim their screen just broke for no reason aren't lying? You'll notice what look like impact damage on some of the photos of people who've had their screens just break. That's odd. Does glass just break on its own? How is that? How many Z3s have been manufactured? What percentage have broken? Pick a point of failure on a phone. "Doesn't charge". "Touch screen not working". "Poor reception". Now google for that term, adding the model of any phone released in the last 5 years. Loads of hits, huh? Funny, that. It's almost as if some mass produced devices are always going to fail either initially, or after a certain amount of use.
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Thanks for the reply, Good points. I've taken all of them into account. However.. This problem is Sony Xperia Z line specific. I've never seen any other phone do the same thing. Do you have a z3? Any problems?
Matter of fact, I'd like to hear everyones views on their z3 so far.
Just an FYI there is already another thread on this, and yes some are getting defective models, The Z1 had a similar issue and after BBC's Watchdog program did an investigation Sony replaced phones with single fine cracks for free. Still hard to prove that you did not drop it though, so 50/50 chance of a free replacement. I have insurance from TMO, just in case.
abhinav.tella said:
Just an FYI there is already another thread on this, and yes some are getting defective models, The Z1 had a similar issue and after BBC's Watchdog program did an investigation Sony replaced phones with single fine cracks for free. Still hard to prove that you did not drop it though, so 50/50 chance of a free replacement. I have insurance from TMO, just in case.
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Yes, I know. I prefer not to take the risk. I'm going with an s5 instead. This problem doesn't occur on there.
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Yes, I know. I prefer not to take the risk. I'm going with an s5 instead. This problem doesn't occur on there.
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That is a great phone as well, I'm sure you won't be dissapointed. Enjoy!