Squeaky build quality near USB port? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If I push on the plastic between the USB & 3.5mm jack, that portion moves & squeaks. It's very little and so far the only real problem I've had with the phone, but it's driving me crazy. It rarely does it through normal use but now I find myself pushing it all the time. If you push in the same area does your phone do the same thing?

Fortunately, there is no real reason to press there unless you enjoy the squeaking sound.

mmas0n said:
Fortunately, there is no real reason to press there unless you enjoy the squeaking sound.
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"Doctor, Doctor, my arm hurts when I do this!"
"Then stop doing that."

Haha yes I see your points. I did mention, however, that I do push it through normal use occasionally. Most of the time I am just doing it as a Pavlovian response.
Just humor me for a moment, do you guys get the same response when pushing?

More of a creaking than a squeaking, but yes. There really doesn't feel like there is much movement though and the phone still feels solid.

Thought i was the only one, noticed it once when i was plugging in my USB, not really a cause for concern

Seems like a common issue, I've had two now and both were like that. First one was a little worse.
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dls5375 said:
Seems like a common issue, I've had two now and both were like that. First one was a little worse.
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Yeah, there's a slight squeak/creek on mine as well just to the left of the USB port.
I don't think this is Nexus S specific, however, because the same creak in nearly the same spot existed on my MT4G. Which makes me wonder if this is by design somehow... then again, the tear down on iFixit doesn't reveal anything of note in that location.

No creaking here, even when I hold it right next to my ear and try to get it to squeak.

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Does your volume button rattle like it's loose?

I know sounds a bit silly, but when I move my $750 TC the volume button on the left side seems to jiggle. It makes a noise like a cracker jack toy. It's annoying to me, but if any and everyone else notice I would not feel so bad about it.
ditto.
also the aluminum d pad scratches easily. hairline scratches..arggg
Mine is solid...
The same problem with my volume button. I was surprised when I discovered where that silly sound comes from. Not acceptable for such an expensive device.
Same problem with mine as well.
Yeah mine also is pretty loose
The same here...
Can only hear it slightly if you shake the device voilently. Can see it becoming a little looser over time.
I have the same experience in my TC too
same here !!!
Though I was the lucky one. Guess not.
I agree that this is totally unacceptable.
Looks like HTC just don't want to make a 100% perfect device. At least one little problem exists here or there (besides the driver issue).
same same on my damn cruise...
Same for me .. really a boring noise..
Mine too, actually noticed it right after I took it out of the box. Problem is I like this phone the most out of all of the ones I've had so far, so I tend to over look it.
HTC seems to love making loose devices. The TyTN II hard key face plate on the front is very loose too. Nice to know that selling my TyTN II to try and get away from shotty workmanship was for nothing as it seems to be following me.
yup it is a shame. my 555€ cruise sounds like a cheap toys.
Also the power button doesn't look that strong.
dara
Here as well....
Loose here as well, not THAT bad, yet loose. Does not make you feel very confident about its quality, does it?
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Actually my problem is that the bloody volume button is loose but is very hard to budge up or down so I can never do it when I am using the phone.
The slider seems to be very stiff. I tried to move it backwards and forwards to loosen it up but didn't help at all.
Same for me... a boring noise. It's true, it's not acceptable for an expensive device like the TC !
yess
Same problem???????????????? any solution ?

Strength of Slide

Hi all,
I'm just getting to grips with my device (actually the 2nd one as the first was returned due to early possible sound issues).
One thing I've noticed is that the slide is possibly softer/looser on the 2nd one.
On mine, I have to hold it carefully otherwise it opens out slightly when I'm listening/speaking. Hope that makes sense!
Could I ask - when other people hold their phone to there ear/put their hand around the handset does the keyboard move slightly or is the slide firm enough to stop this?
Mine has also a slight movement... but it seems to be ok.
The keyboard needs a little room, so that it dos not break at a eventually shock
paulyluca said:
Mine has also a slight movement... but it seems to be ok.
The keyboard needs a little room, so that it dos not break at a eventually shock
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Thanks for the reply: I should clarify though (my post is maybe not very clear).
The movement is such that it starts to slide out slightly when I`m holding it upright during calls (imagine if you were holding a HTC Diamond without a keyboard). Under these circumstances the keyboard displaces slightly.
If the slide mechanism was firmer/harder to push this wouldn't happen - just wanted to check if it's normal (don't want to return my 2nd handset in 2 days!
I was never aware of it (which means its not an issue).... but yes, it slides slightly .......i think this is normal.....
Mine is quite loose, but I guess it is fine as long as it doesn´t get worse. But it is really disturbing when you are holding it, and the device is ******* expensive so HTC could have done it better...
Mhhh.. funny. Isn't the keyboard supposed to be springloaded?
Same issue with my ol'faithful hermes then...
Wonder if X1 is springloaded....
Thanks all.
Clearly it's a "design feature" and mine isn't broken....
paulyluca said:
Mine has also a slight movement... but it seems to be ok.
The keyboard needs a little room, so that it dos not break at a eventually shock
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I couldn't have phrased it better, mine felt exactly like this. A slight bit of wiggle room, if you will, so it's not rigid... But I never had any worries of the durability of the slide.

Does it sound like your Camera lens (flash) is loose when shaking the phone?

it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
aliensquale said:
it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
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yup this slight tapping noise from the top where the camera is located or in that area, how strange.... now you have set my OCD off! lol
Never noticed it before, but my guess would be SIM, SDCard, or battery moving around. They can't make the spaces exactly the same size as what goes into them due to manufacturing tolerances, so it could be that there is a little extra space for one of them that allows it to wiggle around some.
no it's not the sdcard, battery or sim card.. it sounds like something inside the camera area.. like by the lens or the camera flash is jiggling around inside..
hold your phone, shake it a little bit and see if you hear anything around that area..
does anybody else have this sound?
Jerks
Now I will never stop hearing that. I have to return the phone.
Mostly kidding, yeah, I hear it. Forget about it.
okay so it sounds like all of these phones make that noise huh?
I dropped my phone the other day in the sink (opps)... and after that is when I first noticied this sound.. so I don't know if it was like that from day one and I never noticied or if because I dropped it that caused it to start happening and then I was anal about the phone being okay after I dropped it thus that's when I noticied this sound..
you guys ever drop your phones? or you hear this from day one?
I havent dropped my phone and i can hear the sound.oh well not a big deal
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so I guess this is just how all of these Droid Charge's are brand new..
imnuts said:
Never noticed it before, but my guess would be SIM, SDCard, or battery moving around. They can't make the spaces exactly the same size as what goes into them due to manufacturing tolerances, so it could be that there is a little extra space for one of them that allows it to wiggle around some.
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Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
mechanical engineer here... I give my designs to machinists to make every day...
damn you have thick hair.. mine is only .002"
Hughes4123 said:
Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
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Hughes4123 said:
Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
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Well, while I agree with you about being able to make it better, you can't really compare machining tolerances to injection molding tolerances (which is how the bulk of this case was most likely made). There are a lot of factors that go into injection molding that you don't have to worry about with machining (draft angles for example).
Plus, they're making millions of these... the tolerances were probably created such that the probability of the parts not fitting together was reasonably low with respect to the price of each piece, so you can afford to scrap some units. Then there's the statistical variation from lot to lot, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
This is coming from experience in both areas. I'm a mechanical engineer who's designed both big honking machined metal parts and tiny intricate injection molded plastics.
In the end, they're only going to design and manufacture these parts as well as they need to. Sad truth.
true but regarding injection molding it's all how precise the mold is built... you build a mold right on the money, you get a part right on the money..
anyhow back on topic... I don't think it's the ejection molding, etc. that's making this noise.. it almost sounds like the camera lens or flash is lose or something inside the phone right behind the camera lens is moving around. I took the cover off and held the sd card, sim card, battery, etc. in place with my fingers, shook the phone and still hear this sound...
no big deal.. just a little annoying.. when you put the phone up to your ear to answer a call, etc. you can hear this rattling noise inside the phone..
I hear it too. I also hear a similar click, in the same area, when the phone boots up. no biggie though.
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aliensquale said:
mechanical engineer here... I give my designs to machinists to make every day...
damn you have thick hair.. mine is only .002"
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Heads up, you're going bald!
aliensquale said:
it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
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Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
droidxscott said:
Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
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so it must be something to do with the auto focus?
Hear it also!
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Could be an orientation sensor, I remember a phone in the past use to have a tiny rattle to it and thats what it was.
you are right!!!! the sound goes away when you activate the camera app.. infact when you activate the camera app and hold the phone steady you can hear a single click noise from the camera... must be something with the focus, etc.
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Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
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I hear it too in my brand new Charge. It works great, camera does too. I'm pretty sure it has to do with image stabilization, which is an option in our default camera app. Image stabilization in cameras typically mounts the image sensor on a little rig that can move around independently of the camera body, and has some means of stabilizing it (usually gyroscopes and/or servos). My guess is that Samsung somehow figured out how to make some compact system for providing image stabilization (maybe a magnetorheological fluid?) for such a tiny sensor. I can't really guess how it works, but it does seem to work quite well in producing crisp images.
The fact that the camera rattles slightly all the time except when you're using the camera app would certainly seem to confirm this.

[Q] Headphone/aux jack sad trombone

Looks like this is just not such a prominent issue (but may be related to the 'headphone jack buzz') but here it is - even when positively connected, movement of the headphone connector causes the signal to either crackle or the headphones icon to disappear completely, as if I had removed the headphones. I initially thought that perhaps the 3.5mm jack I was using was not seating deep enough into the phone, but after taking the top cover off to make sure that was not the case, it seems to happen anyway.
Previous to this phone, I had an HTC EVO 4G, in which case some of those phones had a similar problem. There was a fix however, where you could dig into the phone a little and find a small copper flap that needed to be bent so that the connection between it and the plug itself was much more secure. Does such a surgery exist for the One S? I searched here but nothing much came up, except for the buzz issue with would seem to be more of an HTC screwup with grounding than something to do with the connection.
FightingChance said:
Looks like this is just not such a prominent issue (but may be related to the 'headphone jack buzz') but here it is - even when positively connected, movement of the headphone connector causes the signal to either crackle or the headphones icon to disappear completely, as if I had removed the headphones. I initially thought that perhaps the 3.5mm jack I was using was not seating deep enough into the phone, but after taking the top cover off to make sure that was not the case, it seems to happen anyway.
Previous to this phone, I had an HTC EVO 4G, in which case some of those phones had a similar problem. There was a fix however, where you could dig into the phone a little and find a small copper flap that needed to be bent so that the connection between it and the plug itself was much more secure. Does such a surgery exist for the One S? I searched here but nothing much came up, except for the buzz issue with would seem to be more of an HTC screwup with grounding than something to do with the connection.
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Very nice, allready thought only I had the problem :-x
Gonna send my phone to HTC soon anyway, lets see if they can fix it...
It burns me that stuff like this, which I would consider very important, never seems to come out in the 40 or so 'FIRST REVIEW's all over the web when the device is handed out to reviewers.
FightingChance said:
It burns me that stuff like this, which I would consider very important, never seems to come out in the 40 or so 'FIRST REVIEW's all over the web when the device is handed out to reviewers.
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We'll, the phone has been out for months and this is the first I've heard of this. I've had problems with some super cheap headphones, but reasonably quality jacks always work. Don't extrapolate from small samples.
FightingChance said:
It burns me that stuff like this, which I would consider very important, never seems to come out in the 40 or so 'FIRST REVIEW's all over the web when the device is handed out to reviewers.
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I'm pretty sure manufacturers try hard to cherry pick the best of the bunch when sending out review units. Look at reviews for the lg g2x. Look how that turned out when consumers finally got their hands on it
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We'll, the phone has been out for months and this is the first I've heard of this. I've had problems with some super cheap headphones, but reasonably quality jacks always work. Don't extrapolate from small samples.
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You call Sennheiser-Headphones cheap ?
I tested 6 different ones and the problem persists on all of them

Camera mechanism very rattly, anyone else?

My camera is really rattly and doesnt secure in the closed position!
Its ****ing disgusting of a sound when I put in down on a table, is this normal?
Really kills ALL fun I can have with this device
Mine seems pretty OK. No rattling when I control the camera.
There might be some quality control issues. I've seen a few mention rattling but most say theirs is fine. So with that in mind it sounds like you risk having to RMA the device when you get it.
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
The same problem with my flipcam.
Mine works fine.
Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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I was thinking into a similar direction... Good to hear this works.
facepalm lol
Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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Duct tape on a phone? 2019.?
No thanks
My camera is firm and doesnt rattle, it does make some noise when the camera moves but thats to be expected I think.
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
jaseman said:
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Difficult to say with such a small sample size.
Could be 1%, 5%, 20%, 50% or 90% with issues. The quality control might get better or the mechanism might just have that bad yields. So right now we have to assume it's either a small number of devices or first batch problems. I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.
T I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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jaseman said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Yes and it isn't comparable.
This is a quality control issue from the factory. I haven't heard anyone say it started rattling later (nor does it seem there would be time to start breaking the device through regular use unless it's sensitive and starts rattling from dust and debris).
The Fold worked fine at the factory and testing in a controlled environment did not reveal the fragility of the design. Otherwise we may as well bring up Note 7 too. That's also a design flaw.
Since not all models rattle it isn't necessarily a design flaw but one of quality and yields. Of course Asus is welcome to make a statement on what causes the issue.
Mine also rattle when put down on table and same with just tapping the screen. Otherwise it is good. Weird that no review mentioned this, not even tech tablets. If the phone didn't cost 570 euro, but 250 euro I would not mind, but I'm going to return it, it is unacceptable for the price.
Mine doesn't rattle when closed, but also doesn't open fully. It sits at a slight angle when open, so I have to press "volume up" for a second to straighten it. As far as I can see there's no calibration tool for camera angle. This might help solve both problems.
Mine rattle to
the camera opens a little whenever I was fast walking with the phone in my pocket or when I wear lose pants but I fixed it by adding 2 strips of tape behind the camera :/
I found out that the rattle is coming from the hinge at the side where the volume buttons are
picked it up from table https://youtu.be/QcbjNwhLVIE ...
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To clarify - this is how it always is, but it happens - lets say once a day - camera just get _more_ loose by itself. I will create another video how it is all the time (it is still pretty bad in quiet environment) - but it will be harder to catch with one hand holding camera phone.
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picked it up from table
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Can other users of this phone confirm if it is a faulty unit or it is "normal" behaviour? Camera module seems to be wonky and loose, not firmly closed/locked. No reviewers mention this problem.
Mine moves a little bit too.
And 2 strips of tape help. I'm fine with it.

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