Pioneer R1 7" tablet - PICKED UP, System Info and Quadrant score PAGE 2 - Android General

Last night I purchased an HP 7 1800 tablet however at midnight this new tablet showed up for the same price. A Pioneer R1 7" tablet, has better specs and a dual-core processor for the same price. It also features Jelly Bean 4.2 instead of 4.1. Also features a mini-HDMI port which is a plus. I decided to cancel the HP order and get this one instead.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Tablet
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Looks decent and there's a good array of color choices too. I think it's a better choice than the HP for the same price.
EDIT: As of 12PM PST, it is still listed at $89.99. Not sold out yet, all colors available.

Updated it with a link from the Pioneer website instead of a direct Wal Mart link.

Thanks
Thanks for the heads up. I was looking for a tablet for my wife and this seems like a good deal. She wouldnt know the different between this and the best any plus for the price you cant beat it.

cavgeris said:
Thanks for the heads up. I was looking for a tablet for my wife and this seems like a good deal. She wouldnt know the different between this and the best any plus for the price you cant beat it.
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No problem, it seems like a better deal than the HP so I wanted to let people know about it that may have wanted to buy a budget tablet.
Not a fan of colors but it leaves some good choices for those who don't want to be bland or plain black/white.
Anyone have any info on this platform, modding, rooting, etc?

Anyone have any info on this tablet?
Can't seem to find any software or much hardware info anywhere. If anyone has one it would be nice to shed some light on this thing.

Since nobody knows anything about this, I'll post a review with pictures when I pick it up on Monday.
Hoping I can root this and put a custom rom on it. KitKat would be awesome.

Matt V said:
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won't consider it since I already got my IPAD, but thanks! ;D

This looks like a great inexpensive tablet. Thanks for sharing the find!

iamyourobama said:
won't consider it since I already got my IPAD, but thanks! ;D
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Thanks, that's very helpful!

Looks like a good deal! Please do post your thoughts!

Picked up the tablet today.
Right off the bat I am disappointed to say that there are marks and scratches on the screen right out of the box. The center is very washed out as well and super grainy. I honestly don't know how this would've gotten past quality control.
This is a big strike and I have contacted Wal-Mart about an exchange. I would go to the store I picked it up from but they don't carry this tablet in store.
So overall I'm not very happy right now considering I waited over a week to get this and it's already disappointing me before playing with it. Maybe I can exchange it for the HP tablet instead. Who knows. Pictures soon.
Where can I find the info necessary to see whether or not I can root this?

System info:
In Android System Info it states the board is a Gigabyte but doesn't give any other detail. Board is labeled as an R1.
CPU Model: Samsung Exynos 4412
GPU Model: Mali-400 MP
Kernel: Linux version 3.0.50-g5f580f3-dirty ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.6.x-google 20120106 (prerelease)(GCC))

Quadrant score.
So far app availability is meh. Can't even download Instagram.

Returned this for a full refund and spent a little more money to get the Asus MemoPad HD7. Should've done this to begin with I guess.

WTF!
Matt - Wish I came across your posting but me & you were on the same page about our purchase @ first. I figured pioneer. You can't go wrong. I am just looking for a tablet since its my first & if I could afford an ipad I would. Interesting that the both of our tablets were scratched up. I am angry as I waited a week & a half & I plan on traveling across the country in a week.
Matt - who from Walmart do I contact for a full refund?
I am still testing the product out but I am unhappy with the screen as well as the scratches. Not cool at all. All that I want is a good tablet for a noob to watch movies & read books.
Seriously, there arent many reviews since pioneer partnered with Walmart to bring this tablet out. I did extensive research before making my purchase.
I most likely will return & head to best buy. Unhappy.

mixwellers said:
Matt - Wish I came across your posting but me & you were on the same page about our purchase @ first. I figured pioneer. You can't go wrong. I am just looking for a tablet since its my first & if I could afford an ipad I would. Interesting that the both of our tablets were scratched up. I am angry as I waited a week & a half & I plan on traveling across the country in a week.
Matt - who from Walmart do I contact for a full refund?
I am still testing the product out but I am unhappy with the screen as well as the scratches. Not cool at all. All that I want is a good tablet for a noob to watch movies & read books.
Seriously, there arent many reviews since pioneer partnered with Walmart to bring this tablet out. I did extensive research before making my purchase.
I most likely will return & head to best buy. Unhappy.
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I purchased it online. To return it I printed out an "easy return receipt" and returned it at my local Wal-Mart store for a full refund.
I went ahead and ordered the Asus Memopad HD7 from Wal-Mart, it was $139. Well worth the slight price difference for a much better tablet. Asus quality, great specs for the money and an amazing HD display.

mixwellers said:
Matt - Wish I came across your posting but me & you were on the same page about our purchase @ first. I figured pioneer. You can't go wrong. I am just looking for a tablet since its my first & if I could afford an ipad I would. Interesting that the both of our tablets were scratched up. I am angry as I waited a week & a half & I plan on traveling across the country in a week.
Matt - who from Walmart do I contact for a full refund?
I am still testing the product out but I am unhappy with the screen as well as the scratches. Not cool at all. All that I want is a good tablet for a noob to watch movies & read books.
Seriously, there arent many reviews since pioneer partnered with Walmart to bring this tablet out. I did extensive research before making my purchase.
I most likely will return & head to best buy. Unhappy.
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Bit late for both of you im sure, but did you remove the scratch protector thing that it comes with already on the screen? There is a plastic protective film that does indeed look like the screen is scratched up because its so perfectly applied that you don't even know it has one on it until you carefully scratch at a corner of the tablet and realize it can be peeled off.
Also wanted to add for anybody that finds this as some of the very limited info on this tablet out there, its realllly not worth it right now, while its not horrible, it surely has a cheap feel to the whole affair. It will do basic tasks without much fuss, but many apps are unavailable right now on the store, a lot of the more intense games will simply cause the tablet to lock up and require a hard reset (with the highly annoying pinhole reset button on the back, because we all carry something to poke that tiny button with on the go) even watching a few videos has thrown up a lock up on occasion. Its still serviceable for now, and it will do okay for my wife for the time being, but im much much happier with the Monster m7 I picked up for the same exact price (99 bucks) At least it has run every game and app ive thrown at it without a hitch so far which I simply cant say for the Pioneer.

snowcrash512 said:
Bit late for both of you im sure, but did you remove the scratch protector thing that it comes with already on the screen? There is a plastic protective film that does indeed look like the screen is scratched up because its so perfectly applied that you don't even know it has one on it until you carefully scratch at a corner of the tablet and realize it can be peeled off.
Also wanted to add for anybody that finds this as some of the very limited info on this tablet out there, its realllly not worth it right now, while its not horrible, it surely has a cheap feel to the whole affair. It will do basic tasks without much fuss, but many apps are unavailable right now on the store, a lot of the more intense games will simply cause the tablet to lock up and require a hard reset (with the highly annoying pinhole reset button on the back, because we all carry something to poke that tiny button with on the go) even watching a few videos has thrown up a lock up on occasion. Its still serviceable for now, and it will do okay for my wife for the time being, but im much much happier with the Monster m7 I picked up for the same exact price (99 bucks) At least it has run every game and app ive thrown at it without a hitch so far which I simply cant say for the Pioneer.
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Just got this tablet as a present for a 7 month baby
Loves her mom's iphone, so I decided to get her this
Got it from walmart. The price right now is only $60
Came in today....the scratches on the screen are actually on a screen protector used by the manufacturer. It needs to be removed and a new one is included.
Went to the Playstore and 95% of the apps I use on all of my tablets are available for this unit...only a few were not.
Very happy with it...sometimes it feels a little slow, but then it picks up
I was able to stream 1080p movies using plex, with Directplay, no transcoding.
Temple run 1 and 2 run just fine and load quite fast
Very pleased for $60
Now, let the chewing begin :laugh:

orion2323 said:
Just got this tablet as a present for a 7 month baby
Loves her mom's iphone, so I decided to get her this
Got it from walmart. The price right now is only $60
Came in today....the scratches on the screen are actually on a screen protector used by the manufacturer. It needs to be removed and a new one is included.
Went to the Playstore and 95% of the apps I use on all of my tablets are available for this unit...only a few were not.
Very happy with it...sometimes it feels a little slow, but then it picks up
I was able to stream 1080p movies using plex, with Directplay, no transcoding.
Temple run 1 and 2 run just fine and load quite fast
Very pleased for $60
Now, let the chewing begin :laugh:
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Really? Temple run 2 crashes within 5 minutes no matter how many times i try to reinstall it. Quite a few games randomly crash honestly, the thing gets HOT playing any games.

snowcrash512 said:
Really? Temple run 2 crashes within 5 minutes no matter how many times i try to reinstall it. Quite a few games randomly crash honestly, the thing gets HOT playing any games.
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I don't normally play games...just install them for the kids
However, you just made me play temple run 1 for 10 minutes...testing this unit
It does get warm...but no crashes yet...I also watched about 20 minutes of a movie, through plex, 1080p MP4, direct streaming...no problems there either
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Also, On eBay, look up, Apad rubber case
It looks to be very similar to this pioneer R1 tablet.
I bought one, hopefully it will fit nicely

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[Q] Is that an IPAD?

I swear to all that is holy that I am going to go on a holiday rampage the next time I hear "Oh wow is that an IPAD?". Then you get to explain that its an android pad, then you have to explain what android is 80% of the time, then you wake up covered in blood and the police are there... you get the picture. I think I am going to get a custom paint job on the back of mine and get "Not a dam IPAD" airbrushed on the back, with a unicorn and rainbow of course..
Sorry for the rant.
haha have a feeling that will happen when (if) i get mine for christmas. but everyone that knows me knows i HATE anything APPLE so they most likely will know its not an icrap. but others i dont know may question it.
yea, took mine to the inlaws last night to watch the football game (streaming via flash) and I got the same question, "is that and iPad"?? I was like no, it it were I wouldn't be watching flash encoded video on it.
wlawyer said:
I swear to all that is holy that I am going to go on a holiday rampage the next time I hear "Oh wow is that an IPAD?". Then you get to explain that its an android pad, then you have to explain what android is 80% of the time, then you wake up covered in blood and the police are there... you get the picture. I think I am going to get a custom paint job on the back of mine and get "Not a dam IPAD" airbrushed on the back, with a unicorn and rainbow of course..
Sorry for the rant.
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No need to appologize for the rant. I had a similar experience. I was waiting in the doctor's office with my son and the receptionist (read: older lady) walked up and goes "don't you just LOVE those??" and I knew she was talking about an iPad. I told her it wasn't an iPad and she just gave me this really confused look when I told her it was running Android.
teleknEsis said:
No need to appologize for the rant. I had a similar experience. I was waiting in the doctor's office with my son and the receptionist (read: older lady) walked up and goes "don't you just LOVE those??" and I knew she was talking about an iPad. I told her it wasn't an iPad and she just gave me this really confused look when I told her it was running Android.
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Wow, that was my experience at my dentist's office just a few days ago. The only difference was that I wasn't there with my son....
haha yeah when i was getting checked out at staples the girl asks me "what is this is it like an ipad" ....no not really its an android tablet. all i get is a blank stare
Plug a USB thumdrive in and watch their heads slump over in complete confusion
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haha yeah when i was getting checked out at staples the girl asks me "what is this is it like an ipad" ....no not really its an android tablet. all i get is a blank stare
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Even better than that, when I went to get mine from my local staples, I had to get the manager on the floor to go and get it. And she was like "Oh, you don't want that. You're looking for an iPad."
I looked at her bluntly and said "I don't want that piece of crap. I want this." and pointed to the flyer.
Throughout the rest of the transaction, she gave me such a bad attitude. I guess I insulted her Apple fangirlness. LOL
Just about everyone who has seen me at work (Target) with the gTablet has assumed it is an iPad.
This is doubly sad because I used to have an iPad and most of them have seen it plus WE SELL IPADS so there isn't a really good excuse for not being able to tell the difference.
Oh well, I can't really expect most of my co-workers to be familiar with the ins and outs of the tech world. Everyone has something they know more about then the next person.
I have an iPad and G tablet, and there are no comparison. iPAD is much mature platform, and more refined when it comes to the build and screen quality.
Hopefully, someday, we will get there with either Gingerbread/Honeycomb combo.
Besides, shortcomings due to of lack of USB and external storage on iPAD, it is much better platform for non-geeky kind.
rob_z11 said:
I have an iPad and G tablet, and there are no comparison. iPAD is much mature platform, and more refined when it comes to the build and screen quality.
Hopefully, someday, we will get there with either Gingerbread/Honeycomb combo.
Besides, shortcomings due to of lack of USB and external storage on iPAD, it is much better platform for non-geeky kind.
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If Gtablet was out of box ready, not sure I agree, since without the mod factor, some folks would prefer the gtablet (again IF out of box ready)
1. No iTunes UI needed to move all files (for non modder types)
2. USB host
3. No proprietary connector for data
4. Flash- Some consumers would prefer a tablet that handles Flash.
5. USB host options.
6. Some people like Android and have a phone with it too.
Sad thing is the Gtablet is NOT out of box ready, so iPad wins by default
added: Initial rumors are the next iPad will have USB, but seems anti-Jobs, so seems a stretch of logic based on iTunes UI premise.
Watch this vid, tell me you don't feel the same way! LOL
http://vimeo.com/16769958
wlawyer said:
I swear to all that is holy that I am going to go on a holiday rampage the next time I hear "Oh wow is that an IPAD?". Then you get to explain that its an android pad, then you have to explain what android is 80% of the time, then you wake up covered in blood and the police are there... you get the picture. I think I am going to get a custom paint job on the back of mine and get "Not a dam IPAD" airbrushed on the back, with a unicorn and rainbow of course..
Sorry for the rant.
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I actually like the "This is not an ipad" sticker idea
Hmmm. I wonder if Canon Copier salesmen get irritated when people ask if their product can product Xerox copies like all the other copiers out there? LOL. Eventually, we're just gonna ignore this and know our product is better than an iPad. At least until iPad 2. ;P
Also, you can always use this as your wallpaper:
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Watch this vid, tell me you don't feel the same way! LOL
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That was great.. I sent it to my daughters who also have Android tablets. So true.. Apple Sheep!
Whatever Gets You Through The Night
rob_z11 said:
I have an iPad and G tablet, and there are no comparison. iPAD is much mature platform, and more refined when it comes to the build and screen quality.
Hopefully, someday, we will get there with either Gingerbread/Honeycomb combo.
Besides, shortcomings due to of lack of USB and external storage on iPAD, it is much better platform for non-geeky kind.
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I agree. The screen and responsiveness of the G Tablet is no where near as good as the iPad. And the out-of-the-box experience goes to the iPad hands down.
With modding, the G Tablet is still not as slick as the iPad. However, the key here is that the G Tablet can be modded, customized, tweaked, and made to run exactly the way I want it to. If I had an iPad I'd basically better get used to the interface and keyboard because that's what I'm stuck with.
Comparing a G Tablet to an iPad is like comparing a Linux box to a Mac, and there are pluses and minuses to each. It really boils down to what you're comfortable with.
I couldn't care less if people use iPads, G Tablets, Galaxy Tabs or some Windows tablet, as long as I get to use my G Tablet.
My .sig on e-mails sent from my gTab is:
.... sent from my tablet (No, it's not an iPad) ....
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My .sig on e-mails sent from my gTab is:
.... sent from my tablet (No, it's not an iPad) ....
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lovin' that sig
popezaphod said:
I agree. The screen and responsiveness of the G Tablet is no where near as good as the iPad. And the out-of-the-box experience goes to the iPad hands down.
With modding, the G Tablet is still not as slick as the iPad. However, the key here is that the G Tablet can be modded, customized, tweaked, and made to run exactly the way I want it to. If I had an iPad I'd basically better get used to the interface and keyboard because that's what I'm stuck with.
Comparing a G Tablet to an iPad is like comparing a Linux box to a Mac, and there are pluses and minuses to each. It really boils down to what you're comfortable with.
I couldn't care less if people use iPads, G Tablets, Galaxy Tabs or some Windows tablet, as long as I get to use my G Tablet.
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That's true, but I am very much against Apple's stand when it comes to Flash, and that's why I have resisted getting iPhone, and got Evo, but I got iPAD as the gift, and loving it.
That being said, I love my gTablet, but it would have been nice if Viewsonic could have done better job in picking up the right screen for it?
Being tablet, screen quality is 60% of the user experience, and 40% is flash. Usability of modding such as copying files between your home network and tablet is gravy in my opinion, but not needed if it can do Browsing and apps successfully.
I am not looking to replace my laptop with tablet, as I will still need laptop to power browsing such as Firefox with 14 tabs open, adblock, session saver and list goes on.
To me, it really sux to see that Google can't put killer browser in their own OS, and gmail integration sux on tablet, as Gmail is nicely integrated in iPAD's client.
At least 10 of my friends have asked the same dumbazz question. In there defense they are not as smart as me . They ask if I like it and I tell them I love it, they ask how much it costs and they seem interested and ask if they should get one over the IPad. I say no. This device as it is right now is perfect for a technically inclined person who loves to play with the device and get it running different roms. Its not ready for an average user. I also know that if they buy one I will be in charge of technical support for the life of the device and I dont want that responsibilty.

Is it really worth it?

Bought the G Tablet from Sears. Used both TNT and Vegan. After so many tweaks got the market and most of the apps to work, BUT there was always an issue with something.. and always something else needed to be tweaked.. After losing sleep over it and spending endless hours, I realized it was not worth the effort for some of the following reasons...
There are some tablets that you don't have to spend all this effort to get the full market.
There are (or will be soon) tablets you can dial out with sim card, or have built in data card if you wish.
Used the Samsung Galaxy (Verizon) for few days and quality was noticeable. you pay $200.00 more BUT everything works... Confirmed with Verizon, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GET THE DATA PLAN. (which by the way starts from $20 a month, and it is month to month with no contract, if you chose to get it).
You can get a part time job on the amount of time you spend to get this stupid device to work (at the end it does not.. at least not fully functional) and probably make enough $ to buy a brand new galaxy and more...
So.. I gave up and returned mine... It is really not worth my time... Those you like to play and hope to get this working.. good luck..
Wrong forum... But to me it is worth it. Sorry it isnt for you.
Why do people think the Galaxy Tab is only a little more money?
It's not $200 more. It's $200 more at the start, plus the cost of a data plan. I personally think the Galaxy Tab is ridiculously expensive, over time. If I had to choose between only that or a WiFi iPad, I'd just buy the iPad.
Yes, the Gtab is a PITN because it's so bleeding edge and the software hasn't caught up with the hardware, yet. But that's part of the charm -- the mods are pretty stable so it's usable with just a firmware update. It's not overly complicated.
Again, I don't see the appeal of the Galaxy Tab. When they have a WiFi only version for $400, then maybe I'll take a second look.
Most of us got a G Tab because we are habitual early adopters. And because we wanted a 10" capacitive touchscreen tablet. And because we wanted a Tegra 2 tablet. And mostly because we saw how hackable it was, how easy to root, and how easy to install custom ROMs.
The Galaxy Tab is none of those things (7", Samsung hummingbird, only just got clockwork mod recovery 2 days ago, etc.). But it's obviously a much more polished device out of the box.
We all know the software on this thing was garbage, and we know that the modded ROMs are all lacking a bit of polish still, but the latest stuff like Vegan tab beta3 is totally usable on a day-to-day basis for most of us. But probably wouldn't be smooth enough for everybody's needs.
Obviously, if you find yourself "losing sleep" because of your tablet device, by all means, I suggest returning it!! This is supposed to be fun, not a pain. If it's a pain for you, there are obviously other devices out there that don't require so much screwing around to get working well.
So... to do the math for some that do not read the numerous comments and threads on the cost difference between the gtab and galaxy tab = 2yr contract equaling around $1440 for 3gb a month. or 1080 or about that for 1gb. So ALOT more then the gtab. I have played with the galaxy tab and it is nice. But not worth it and very little chance of upgrading.
Oh I also agree with the above post, ease of modding on this tab is great! Plus the ability to bring it back from a bad flash have made me keep this tablet. This has saved me more times then I can count and that is huge!
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Most of us got a G Tab because we are habitual early adopters. And because we wanted a 10" capacitive touchscreen tablet. And because we wanted a Tegra 2 tablet. And mostly because we saw how hackable it was, how easy to root, and how easy to install custom ROMs.
The Galaxy Tab is none of those things (7", Samsung hummingbird, only just got clockwork mod recovery 2 days ago, etc.). But it's obviously a much more polished device out of the box.
We all know the software on this thing was garbage, and we know that the modded ROMs are all lacking a bit of polish still, but the latest stuff like Vegan tab beta3 is totally usable on a day-to-day basis for most of us. But probably wouldn't be smooth enough for everybody's needs.
Obviously, if you find yourself "losing sleep" because of your tablet device, by all means, I suggest returning it!! This is supposed to be fun, not a pain. If it's a pain for you, there are obviously other devices out there that don't require so much screwing around to get working well.
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I couldn't have said it better mayself. I will echo "If you find yourself losing sleep because of your tablet device, by all means return it." This is a hobby for lots of us here. By its nature, this site (xda) is for developers and early adopters. If you're a regular consumer, then this definitely is not the tablet for you.
I love mine. I love being ahead of the curve. I love being part of the community that is making this device live up to its potential. You couldn't pry this out of my fingers if you tried.
But, to each his/her own. Good luck with whatever tablet suits your needs out of the box.
Get your facts strait. Call Verizon or go to one of their store, you will discover data plan is NOT mandatory.. price is $599 regardless, with or without the data plan...
Re "I love being ahead of the curve.".. wow.. with 1.3 mp camera, you think you are ahead the curve?
Not wanting to feed the troll but my response is...
Yes, it's worth it. I use my 10" tab more than I use my phone now. All the things I was doing (except phone calls and texting) I do on my GTab.
$200 more for a smaller, slower, less capable device just doesn't strike me as a good purchase choice (talking about the Samsung Galaxy Tab) since "I" was looking for a capable 10" WiFi only Android 2.2 tab.
Market access - check
Web browsing - check
Gmail + Calendar - check
Flash - check
And all my apps work on it just fine (I have a few guitar chord apps, TapaTalk forum app, Angry Birds, Paper Toss, Facebook, Audio Galaxy, etc...)
I can't see anything I'm missing in this larger (10"), faster (Tegra 2), less expensive ($399) device. Screen angled viewing is bad...I tend to look directly at my tab so it's not really a problem. Also helps keep prying eyes off what I'm doing
What am I missing?
@turk532 - That's still a lot more bread than the GTab. I got mine for $215 from the Outlet.
$600 for a 7 inch tablet is just plain insane, imo. It's got a nice screen but so does the Nook Color, for $350 less. But yes, you have to hack that one, as well.
turk532 said:
Get your facts strait. Call Verizon or go to one of their store, you will discover data plan is NOT mandatory.. price is $599 regardless, with or without the data plan...
Re "I love being ahead of the curve.".. wow.. with 1.3 mp camera, you think you are ahead the curve?
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That's not really the point though, is it?
Is this device as polished as the Galaxy Tab? No. Does this have more potential at a good price point? Absolutely.
If you aren't willing to take a little risk and aren't enjoying modding your device, return it and find one that is good out of the box for more money. Rude comments to others on the board because they don't agree with your opinion is unnecessary and unwarranted.
I actually enjoy tweaking phones/tablets
Yes for me, its worth it; as a companion device to my HTC EVO when I want to travel light without a laptop.
Phone has a big 4.4 inch screen and does everything well, however prolonged use of some applications gives me eye strain! Viewsonic is nicely priced to get more real estate for browsing, games, remote access and for creating documents. Battery life is good enough for a long haul flight.
Phone can be used to create a 4G wifi hotspot for viewsonic to use, so no need for a data plan.
I am sure the ViewSonic ROMs will get to a very stable state in the not so distant future, in the meantime, I enjoy the learning curve associated with configuring the device. If you are not into tweaking then it may not be the right product for you....
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Phone: HTC EVO with EViO
Tablet: Viewsonic with TnT Lite
I had my mind set that I was getting a Galaxy Tab. 7" screen, polished hardware and software, decent price and perfect for what I wanted. The more I read, the more I knew I was going to get one. Was all set to go after work and pick one up, but I was reading through XDA about my EVO and stumbled across this community for the g tab.
Needless to say, I never made it to the Sprint store. I started reading and following this forum day and night. Learning, researching and listening to reviews. Seen an ad that Sears would have them for $249 and it was a go.
I could not be happier with my choice and so glad I decided to do a little more reading. The hardware is second to none as far as what is on the market today. The software is getting more and more polished with each beta release of the roms these brilliant guys are cooking up.
Is the viewing angle perfect? NO, but it is useable for my needs. For the price, ease of tinkering and changing roms, it cannot be beat!
I may end up getting one of these... any sales looking to happen soon? Hopefully they go on sale after Christmas lol.
The only thing that's deterring me so far is that I don't see any really good ROMs out for this device. I know it hasn't been out for awhile, but I'm trying to figure out if I should just wait for the Motorola tab to come out or get this one.
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turk532 said:
Get your facts strait. Call Verizon or go to one of their store, you will discover data plan is NOT mandatory.. price is $599 regardless, with or without the data plan...
Re "I love being ahead of the curve.".. wow.. with 1.3 mp camera, you think you are ahead the curve?
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OK. Now you've shown what you're really here for: trolling.
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I'm sorry you dislike the G-Tablet so much you feel the need to rub it into our faces. I'm opting out of this thread from this point forward.
Playing with the g-tablet is a lot of fun.. I just purchased it past saturday and installed TNT lite 2.2 on it. Just upgraded to 2.4 but got a force close error every 5 seconds. I just loaded Vegan b3. I do programming for living (wrote a couple of android games). It is not about the $200 dollars for me, I just feel satisfied and fun when I play with it. Otherwise, I will just buy an Ipad, 50% of my co-workers have IPad..
" ... losing sleep over it and spending endless hours..."
I for one, agree with above posted statement.
I've been losing sleep since the day I picked it up from sears.
Almost every nite, my wife has to pry Gtab off my hands ...
" Is it really worth it?"
GTab x2 = Galaxy Tab (in term of $$$). ---> I should buy another GTab so I can flash different ROM!
I've had the gpad for almost 2 weeks now and I had a learning curve
for some things. I also, learned alot during that time line. I like the gpad
and it does what I need it to do.
I got it for surfing the net, sending gmail, watching movies and some
gaming too. I'm still missing one game that I play to kill time .. It's
plants vs zombies ... but I hear it's coming in the coming weeks ..
Spending countless hours? on installing rom? How?!
10" cap screen, runs all the apps I want, and is damn fast!
Love my g Tablet!
Anybody who *really* wanted a tablet that was slick and just worked out of the box would just buy an iPad.
Many, if not most people who choose Android over IOS do so because it lets them do stuff like flash roms and add capabilities.

[Q] Should I Wait for Prime? Is it Worth It?

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Hey guys, I need a little help here,
First off im from Singapore and I first settled on Transformer Prime as the tablet i was gonna buy. I dont know whether the prime is releasing in December for singapore or if they are gonna push it till 2012 Jan. i just wanted to ask if the 100 (est.) bucks extra is worth the advantages and the wait?
What Im gonna use my new tablet for
Entertainment and Productivity substitute for my laptop on the go: Music, Movies, Ebooks, Taking Notes in School (im a student), Internet surfing, mild gaming, Video Conferencing (seldom), taking photos (seldom)
Pricing Details in SGD
Transformer TF101 (with dock) : $699 (may be able to bag a few extra goodies thanks to the upcoming IT Fair)
Transformer Prime (with dock) : estimated $810 - $830
(I'm planning to get the dock also because the keyboard and extended battery life would really come in handy. Was also one of the reasons i chose the transformer over others)
Advantages as far as I can see with the Prime vs TF101
Quad Core vs Dual Core
Aethetics (thinner, more good looking etc) (not a MAJOR issue but it would be nice to have a better looking tablet)
16GB vs 32 GB on board memory (not really an issue cause I have a 32gb microSD which is more than enough memory, worst come to worst just use the SD card slot in the dock for extra memory)
8MP vs 5 MP camera
other than these, are there any more significant differences between choosing Tegra 3 vs Tegra 2, ive read that the overall performance is slightly faster on the tegra 3 but is it worth the wait and the 100 odd bucks?
Thanks! Really Appreciate any help you can give me =)
for what your using it for you could go either way
prime will have better battery life be more future proofed and have more grunt if you can afford it do it
if not tf101 is still a great tab in my opinion
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EVERYTHING is better on the prime, you should wait,
Don't forget the Screen, the sound, everything !
If I were in you I would wait for the release of Prime and go buying the TF101..cause maybe then you will find some offers to buy the first version of the transformer..
Prime will have some bugs when comes out and maybe you have to wait for someone to find a method to root it..
now TF101 is rootable for all versions (also SBKv2) thanks to the RazorClaw method and has already a great active community..
Prime will be lighter and more powerful..but I think TF is just good enough to do what you want to do..
For crying out loud, wait! Wait! Even if it was 3 months out i'd wait.
As stated above, i would wait for 2 reasons... Wait for any possible defects to be identified and addressed first. Then wait for it to be rooted and even wait for a custom rom to be developed for it.
cavsoldier19d said:
As stated above, i would wait for 2 reasons... Wait for any possible defects to be identified and addressed first. Then wait for it to be rooted and even wait for a custom rom to be developed for it.
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And by then, Samsung or somebody will have a tab in the works, and then you'll have to wonder if you should buy THAT when it comes out. . . .
As the vast majority of tablet use (mine anyway) is way below the threshold of the device, spending so much money is just crazy just so I'll be on the bleeding edge. To me, $810 is ridiculous.
Buy a TF101 and donate $400 to charity.
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And by then, Samsung or somebody will have a tab in the works, and then you'll have to wonder if you should buy THAT when it comes out. . . .
As the vast majority of tablet use (mine anyway) is way below the threshold of the device, spending so much money is just crazy just so I'll be on the bleeding edge. To me, $810 is ridiculous.
Buy a TF101 and donate $400 to charity.
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That's your prerogative if you want to fall victim to buying everything new thing that comes out. They love people like you. It all depends on what you are looking for...being on the absolute bleeding edge, you come to accept that you may have defects and that your device may not be able to be rooted yet. For me, its a comfortable medium between bleeding edge and functionality. I would rather have a TF101 rev with no defects and with the ability to be rooted and rom'ed, than having a TF Prime that just hit the shelves with possible defects and no possibility of being rooted/rom'ed for a good while.
Tend to agree with a mixture of the above:
Buy what will do the jobs you want to do
The next gen after Prime is probably already being developed
Save some money if you can if the tf101 fits your needs.
Or get a preowned tf for now and then sell it on again to part fund the prime.
My wife asked me the other day what I will be able to do with the Prime that I can't do with my OG Transformer. My honest answer was: absolutely nothing. I realized that there is literally nothing* that the Prime will do out of the box day one that the TF can't do, and over time the only difference will be that the Prime will eventually run some games a little faster/better as they're optimized for Tegra 3.
However, I'll still be getting the Prime, and here's why: it's better in every single aspect of what makes a tablet enjoyable to use:
1. The Prime is faster, so there should be fewer frustrating hesitations and lags. ICS might help that on the TF, but the Prime will still provide a better experience.
2. It's thinner and lighter. I'm actually envious of my wife with her Galaxy Tab 10.1, because it's so much nicer to hold in actual use. The TF isn't _terrible_, but the GT is definitely more pleasant.
3. I can _just barely_ use the TF outside in direct sunlight, if I squint and hold it at _just_ the right angle. With almost double the brightness, the Prime should be very usable when I'm outside on the back porch getting some sun and wanting to read an ebook.
4. The anti-fingerprint coating would be welcome. I spend more than a few minutes a day just cleaning the screen on my TF.
5. The Prime should have significantly improved sound, perhaps the best that's yet shipped on a tablet. I like decent quality sound, and while not terrible, the TF is a bit of a disappointment in this area.
6. 30% better battery life would mean I'll _never_ have to worry about plugging in the Prime during my typical usage patterns. As it is, I'm sometimes lacking just about an hour with the TF and need to plug in. The Prime should mean I never have to worry about it. Of course, having 18 hours with the dock will also be incredible.
7. I don't care about the 32GB vs. 16GB storage, and would rather have a $399 Prime to choose, but I understand why ASUS is positioning things the way they are. And $499 for the 32GB Prime will still be $100 cheaper than $599 for the 32GB iPad 2.
8. I don't often take pictures using my TF, but man, those sample shots taken with the Prime sure do look nice. Hell, those are heads and shoulders better than I get from my Motorola Photon, and so who knows, maybe I'll find opportunities to use the Prime's camera.
The only thing the Prime doesn't seem to have that I wish it did is haptic feedback (I was surprised how much I like it on my wife's GT 10.1). But of course the TF doesn't have it either, so it's a wash.
I'll be willing to spend a couple hundred dollars to upgrade to the Prime (after selling my TF+dock combo) simply because the Prime is so much better. ASUS basically fixed every weakness of the TF, and kept the best thing about it--the dock. That's worth the money to me.
*As I thought about it more, I realized that because it has NEON, the Tegra 3 is better at high-def video. However, I never watch high-def video on my TF, and so _for me_ there's literally nothing.
THANK YOU EVERYONE for you replies, its given me a lot of food for thought regarding this. Being my first tablet, i want to make sure i make the right decision. Thank you so much. i value all your comments =D
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That's your prerogative if you want to fall victim to buying everything new thing that comes out. They love people like you. It all depends on what you are looking for...being on the absolute bleeding edge, you come to accept that you may have defects and that your device may not be able to be rooted yet. For me, its a comfortable medium between bleeding edge and functionality. I would rather have a TF101 rev with no defects and with the ability to be rooted and rom'ed, than having a TF Prime that just hit the shelves with possible defects and no possibility of being rooted/rom'ed for a good while.
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You have a first generation Asus tablet, so are you one of those victims that you speak of? If the prime can't be rooted right away, its not a brick. You can have plenty of use with it until it WILL be rootable. Its only a matter of time. Each to his own, but I'd rather have the slimmer, lighter, faster unit for a bit more cash. Hands down. These things are on a yearly cycle, maybe 18 months. You can't sit back too long or you will be asking these questions about the NEXT tablet, and so on...
Not exactly. I have a B60 revision of the tf, so I didn't buy it the day it hit the shelves. This rev corrected defects in the previous revs. Not to mention that when I bought my tf, it was already rootable and custom roms were already available. It is also my first and only tab to date. So no, I am not the person to go rush out and buy the latest and greatest thing. I will most likely end up buying the prime, but not the day it hits the shelves.
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>However, I'll still be getting the Prime, and here's why: it's better in every single aspect of what makes a tablet enjoyable to use:
I think the hardest thing is to be honest (objective) with oneself. Most of reasons you provided sound like rationalizing, indicated by the "better in every single aspect" hyperbole.
>1. The Prime is faster, so there should be fewer frustrating hesitations and lags. ICS might help that on the TF, but the Prime will still provide a better experience.
>...over time the only difference will be that the Prime will eventually run some games a little faster/better
You're contradicting yourself. Anyway, the lags experienced in normal use are due to the OS, as you said it yourself. The objective answer here would be to wait for ICS, than to pay another $500.
>2. It's thinner and lighter.
Thinness doesn't contribute to being more enjoyable to use. It only provides better aesthetics, which mattered only for a short while. It contributes to the lust of new toys; that's basically it.
The Prime isn't that much lighter to justify the $500 (additional) expenditure. This is rationalizing, unless of course $500 is chump change for you. But if so, you wouldn't have gone through all this soul-searching.
>3. I can _just barely_ use the TF outside in direct sunlight.
How often do you use your TF outside in direct daylight?
>4. The anti-fingerprint coating would be welcome.
A smudge-resistant screen protector would be a better solution.
>5. The Prime should have significantly improved sound, perhaps the best that's yet shipped on a tablet.
Note the "should." And the "perhaps the best" is pure hyperbole. These fall into the "wishful" category.
Ditto for the rest of your proffered reasons.
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't buy. Only you can decide that. I'm merely pointing out the futility of trying to rationalize the purchase of a new toy. Cut to the chase and keep it simple: You want it, and you can afford it. That's it.
I think obviously waiting for Transformer Prime is the best thing you ever do.
Asus Transformer TF101 have sharp edges. It hurts my hand when holding it. Also, the screen is not that sensitive. Asus promise a more sensitive screen.
And with Quadcore, longer battery life, slimmer, nicer to hold, and more future proof, waiting for Transformer Prime is no brainer. This question should not be asked in the first place.
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I'm not saying you should or shouldn't buy. Only you can decide that. I'm merely pointing out the futility of trying to rationalize the purchase of a new toy. Cut to the chase and keep it simple: You want it, and you can afford it. That's it.
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Well, you know, you certainly spent a great deal of time trying to convince me that my opinion is incorrect. So, okay, sure, whatever.
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kkcheong said:
I think obviously waiting for Transformer Prime is the best thing you ever do.
Asus Transformer TF101 have sharp edges. It hurts my hand when holding it. Also, the screen is not that sensitive. Asus promise a more sensitive screen.
And with Quadcore, longer battery life, slimmer, nicer to hold, and more future proof, waiting for Transformer Prime is no brainer. This question should not be asked in the first place.
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Yes, thanks, I forgot about the increase touch sensitivity. That's also important...
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3. I can _just barely_ use the TF outside in direct sunlight.
How often do you use your TF outside in direct daylight?
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The only part of your post that I can answer objectively: I live in Southern California. So, you figure it out.
>Well, you know, you certainly spent a great deal of time trying to convince me that my opinion is incorrect. So, okay, sure, whatever.
This is a beeswaxing thread. It's all opinions. There is no right or wrong.
The reason I replied is that you were honest with your spouse, that the Prime would impart marginal utility, but then did a complete 180 in trying to justify it to yourself. The irony of it was striking enough to elicit a response.
I well understand techno-lust. That's why we're all here. There's no justifying it, other than that's part of being a techie.
If I had the money to waste on it... I would. The thing is, everyone else has pointed out good points already, but I think the biggest thing you might want to keep in mind is whether or not you will decide to wait it out even after Prime is released.. you know? To avoid hardware/quality issues similar to people with the first transformer? For example, I got mine around July, and by then, I unboxed my transformer and it was completely usable right out of the box (with the exception of netflix). But there were people who bought it months earlier and had lots of issues and bugs, as well as hardware problems.
So... do you think you can wait long enough for it? Honestly, if you've waited this long, you might as well wait a little longer. You'd only be paying like 100 dollars more than what you'd pay for the transformer, but the expected potential is much greater. The potential might NOT be realized, but it's always nice that you could possibly play better video games and whatnot. Good luck by the way.
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If I had the money to waste on it... I would. The thing is, everyone else has pointed out good points already, but I think the biggest thing you might want to keep in mind is whether or not you will decide to wait it out even after Prime is released.. you know? To avoid hardware/quality issues similar to people with the first transformer? For example, I got mine around July, and by then, I unboxed my transformer and it was completely usable right out of the box (with the exception of netflix). But there were people who bought it months earlier and had lots of issues and bugs, as well as hardware problems.
So... do you think you can wait long enough for it? Honestly, if you've waited this long, you might as well wait a little longer. You'd only be paying like 100 dollars more than what you'd pay for the transformer, but the expected potential is much greater. The potential might NOT be realized, but it's always nice that you could possibly play better video games and whatnot. Good luck by the way.
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This Asus Transformer Prime is 2nd version of Asus Transformer. So it'll be less bug.
You can buy it at the first day launch without big issue.
The only issue might be screen bleeding and dust under the glass. That one you can check it during purchase or return it to get a new one.
>Asus Transformer TF101 have sharp edges. It hurts my hand when holding it.
So the Prime's edges are less sharp?
"Thin" isn't always good.
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Buy TF700 or wait?

Hello, I want to get a new tablet (currently using and android'ed Touchpad still), and HD resolution is important to me. I've been keeping an eye on the TF700 and now have a chance to grab one for about $345 new. But I know some newer HD tablets were announced at CES and are on the horizon for some time (but I don't think pricing has been announced). At this point should I just hold off to see what is coming, or at that price am I safe to grab the TF700 and be happy for a while to come.
My primary uses will be reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movies.
Thanks to any help!
6 months ago I would have said buy but today I would wait. The lag issue is a pia (at least if you stick with stock rom) and there are some new hd tablets comming out in the next 3-6 months. The only thing i don't know is if they will have sd slots (which is a must for me but appears to be a nono to google).
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Hello, I want to get a new tablet (currently using and android'ed Touchpad still), and HD resolution is important to me. I've been keeping an eye on the TF700 and now have a chance to grab one for about $345 new. But I know some newer HD tablets were announced at CES and are on the horizon for some time (but I don't think pricing has been announced). At this point should I just hold off to see what is coming, or at that price am I safe to grab the TF700 and be happy for a while to come.
My primary uses will be reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movies.
Thanks to any help!
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6 months ago I would have said buy but today I would wait. The lag issue is a pia (at least if you stick with stock rom) and there are some new hd tablets comming out in the next 3-6 months. The only thing i don't know is if they will have sd slots (which is a must for me but appears to be a nono to google).
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Thank you for response, I have no issue modding to a different rom, I've done it on other tablets / phones before (heck I'm using a touchpad modded from webOS to android now anyways). But if modding it doesn't help much then that is a concern.
My other concern was the newer tablets will be priced again in the 400-500 range, or the lower priced HD tablets will have specs worse than the transformer already has.
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Thank you for response, I have no issue modding to a different rom, I've done it on other tablets / phones before (heck I'm using a touchpad modded from webOS to android now anyways). But if modding it doesn't help much then that is a concern.
My other concern was the newer tablets will be priced again in the 400-500 range, or the lower priced HD tablets will have specs worse than the transformer already has.
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My honest opinion, it's very hard to find a FULLY LOADED TABLET like tf700 with the highest resolution screen. If you willing to unlock to use custom rom. I would say YES 100%.
buhohitr said:
My honest opinion, it's very hard to find a FULLY LOADED TABLET like tf700 with the highest resolution screen. If you willing to unlock to use custom rom. I would say YES 100%.
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Thanks for your opinion. I pulled the trigger. Worse case if I'm really unhappy I will return it before I unlock it.
Thanks for advice!!!!
mattbooty said:
Thanks for your opinion. I pulled the trigger. Worse case if I'm really unhappy I will return it before I unlock it.
Thanks for advice!!!!
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smart decision!!! bravo!
I bought mine on ebay for 350$ used, well worth it, beautiful screen and nice speed, glad you bought it, 345$ new is nuts, is that a ebay deal or?
Well today there are two alternatives; the acer and nexus 10. The acer is not a bad tablet but it runs a bit warmer and I think it has shorter battery life ( you should check reviews; it's been a while since i've read them). The nexus 10 biggest con is no sd slot but the recent mobiltech - http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Google-Nexus-10.htm - was over the top positive if you don't need an that sd slot.
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I'm not unhappy I have the tf700 but the lag thing is a major headache when updating or browsing a lot of web pages and given the price point of the tablet it is a bit downer.
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Anyways I'll probably stick with it another year and then pick up a 13inch ultra-book (sub 3lb) with 1080p screen.
Yeah I agree be wise to wait. The new Sony, Samsung, Visio etc.. coming out.
I think you should wait ! I own the tf700 and I'm not pleased with it mostly because of the lag and random reboots. Sony announced an HD tablet that seems to be a good one. Anyway you should wait until MWC in Barcelona at the end of next month before you make up your mind.
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I think you should wait ! I own the tf700 and I'm not pleased with it mostly because of the lag and random reboots. Sony announced an HD tablet that seems to be a good one. Anyway you should wait until MWC in Barcelona at the end of next month before you make up your mind.
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But Sony announces great things and releases them 6 months after everyone else. That's why their phone sales are in the toilet. They just came out with a new one, nice phone, but it is about the same as a one x, which came out about 9 months ago. I will also admit the lag issue, but still the best one out there, the screen is amazing.
Arguments for the TF700:
- Screen! 1920*1200.
- Screen. 700 nits brightness and great contrast. Almost twice as bright as an iPad 3.
- Keyboard dock. With additional battery and USB.
- microSD card slot, and full size SD card slot in the dock.
- It looks great.
Arguments against the TF700:
- Lag. Slow internal eMMC. (can be worked around with custom ROMs, but not fully solved.)
- Unlocking to install custom ROMs voids your warranty!
- Unlocking is a lottery, and you still can't replace the bootloader on an unlocked device. (the unlocking tool simply does not work for some people and they get no help from Asus.)
- Somewhat unstable, occasional random reboots, hangs with white screen.
- Build quality issues - people report the docking mechanism breaking, light bleed, screen getting loose.
- Only 1 GB RAM and old (for 2013) Tegra 3 SoC.
- Some software that works on other tablets is not available for the TF700.
- Loudspeaker isn't great.
Some folks are replying without seeming to have read the other comments beyond the first. The OP has already made a move on the TF700T.
For the OP's needs "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie", the TF700T is more than suitable.
No doubt the N10 has higher performance, but at the cost of far worse battery life. And you don't really need an N10 for "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie". I guess you don't "need" a TF700T for that either. Lower ranking devices could fit that bill just fine.
But considering the OP has purchased aTF700T, I think they'll enjoy it.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Some folks are replying without seeming to have read the other comments beyond the first. The OP has already made a move on the TF700T.
For the OP's needs "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie", the TF700T is more than suitable.
No doubt the N10 has higher performance, but at the cost of far worse battery life. And you don't really need an N10 for "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie". I guess you don't "need" a TF700T for that either. Lower ranking devices could fit that bill just fine.
But considering the OP has purchased aTF700T, I think they'll enjoy it.
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Exactly, the N10 is nice and all, but I couldn't live without my MicroSD card, the OP will enjoy it a lot, the 1080p screen look brilliant with movies and text, and you can store tons of movies on a microsd
I just got my Infinity 64GB about 2 weeks ago. I'm pretty pleased with it so far. I have noticed a bit of lag on the web, but it's not horrible. I'm sure a fix will eventually come out for it. I don't see it staying that way forever. I'd probably like to eventually root it, but I get totally confused when reading the instructions on how to. I've only rooted my HTC Thunderbolt and that was a pretty in depth task.
I have noticed the little black line thing here and there but it's not too bad either. I figure a fix will come out for that as well.
I will say with 64GB I was able to load 13 High Quality (about 3 - 6gb each) movies on this thing and it works great! Think I might try knocking the quality down of the movie to a smaller file size so I can load a lot more on here. Just haven't found a ripper/compressor that I like that can create ripped movies without a lot of artifacting...
I'd say the most bothersome thing I've noticed with this tablet is the Light Bleed... however it's only noticed during a completely black screen. It's always got the factory warranty, plus I purchased a 3 year Square Trade warranty along with it so I'm good until 2016 with this bad boy.
This is a pretty interesting tablet coming out...
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-announces-quad-core-10-inch-tablet-z
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mattbooty said:
and now have a chance to grab one for about $345 new.
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I'm always on the look out for my GF, she's in the market for a tablet. Where'd you find your deal?
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Do it if you are comfortable unlocking, flashing trwp, and installing Clean ROM. After doing so my tab is smoother than ipad4 at my work. New tablets may be coming out but i doubt they have a comprehensive KB dock as good as this one. Screen is better than retina display and other HD tableys bc of IPS+, screen brightness is as important as res due to glare issues, IPS+ is great for combatting this, and i have yet to see another device with super IPS+. The screen goes to 600 nits of brightness rather than 300-350, which is the highest ive ever seen in any tablet or laptop. The range of brightness settings is also badass, you can go to incresibly low to incredibly high, which is great but often unmentioned.
I have actually replaced my laptop and desktop with tf700. Since buying and flashing CROMI i have never touched my laptop/desktop. My workflow is better on this bc of gesture/KB dock combination. I couldnt be happier.
Plus the tf700 is a sexy fckin beast, nothing else out there looks as badass. The mfctring quality is sick. I have dropped mine from around 5 ft off the ground onto concrete on pretty much every edge of this device and it is still working as well as when i bought it. Slid off my kitchen table onto tile floor directly onto the creen and slid about 5 feet, yet the screen doesnt have a single scratch. GO TF700 lol.
If you don't need the keyboard dock. Then jump on the Nexus 10. But if you are planning to use the tf700 and rooting with a flashing rom. Pull the trigger. Tf700 rooted is a beast of a tablet. And just provides so much functionality with the dock. I mean extra battery, sd slots, usb slots. The full package.
Its never to late to RETURN IT! And you will find there are now some that have unlocked it had to send it back and Asus will not fix it even though it was a hard ware problem. I had just bought one a week ago. Would not even turn on. Just look at all the new stuff coming out some in just weeks others a few months. Better to wait. I am

Anyone regret buying the shield?

So I'm debating if I should get the shield or wait and see what the new nexus tablet had to offer. So my question is if anyone had any regrets getting the tablet? Any input would be great.
I have ADHD and I get tired of devices extremely quickly usually. I am very excited to receive my Shield Tablet on Friday or Monday however. And I will update you as far as how I like it. Tell me anything you need tested on it and I'd be more than happy to test it.
Jaybenosa said:
So I'm debating if I should get the shield or wait and see what the new nexus tablet had to offer. So my question is if anyone had any regrets getting the tablet? Any input would be great.
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Yes and No
I was one of the unfortunate ones that got a device with the edge cracking issues. Normally this wouldn't be an issue if I lived in the US. But I live in Australia. So round-tripping the tablet for a RMA will likely cost me about A$60-70 in shipping fees. Because it is cosmetic, I don't feel like I need to rush to do it, so I'll just put up with the cracks until such time as the manufacturer's warranty is about to run out, or when I sell it (whichever comes first).
I have also been having some very strange issues with corporate mail, specifically .pfx certificate storage. I've reported the issue to NVidia, and hopefully they can confirm it is a bug with 4.4.2 and can fix it.
Other than that, I'm happy with the device. The stylus is great for playing touch games like Sky Force 2014, and I'm sure that once I receive my Shield Controller I'll get a new appreciation for just how great the device is.
Thanks for the input guys! Searching for more reviews, I got introduced to the tegra note 7! I'm now torn between that and the shield. Have any of you 2 had the tegra note 7?
Jaybenosa said:
Thanks for the input guys! Searching for more reviews, I got introduced to the tegra note 7! I'm now torn between that and the shield. Have any of you 2 had the tegra note 7?
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I haven't had it but my bestie has it and it's alright (Actually it's pretty good tbh.). But, if you're really into the gaming scene, especially mobile. I would highly recommend the tablet. I know I haven't gotten mine yet. But i had the original shield and I loved it to bits. VERY good device. The entire shield specific apps that came with it were great in my opinion, very speedy device. No lag in anything I threw at it.
The shield tablet is more powerful and is even capable of emulating GameCube games (Albeit barely playable and only the most popular titles) but that fact along with the half life 2 and portal games and the other shield only capabilities was enough for me to send back my shield and get the shield tablet. BUT! If you're gonna go with the shield tablet I don't recommend the shield controller. I recommend the iPega 9023 from here http://www.dx.com/p/ipega-9023-blue...pod-ipad-samsung-htc-more-337604#.VAfh0fmOJh4
(not amazon because it takes at least a month to arrive from china lol)
As it works as well as the official shield controller and even works perfectly for all the shield games and apps like HL2, Portal, GameStream, And GRID Beta.
And I will be reviewing my new 128GB Micro SD, the Shield Tablet and the iPega 9023 on here. look for my review on the iPega in about 2 weeks max but the Shield Tablet and the Micro SD in the next week or less here on the forums for the Shield Tablet.
Any questions or requests on tests I should run feel free to ask.
Thanks for the heads up on the controller! I take it it should work on any tablet right? just in case I don't end up getting the shield
Jaybenosa said:
Thanks for the heads up on the controller! I take it it should work on any tablet right? just in case I don't end up getting the shield
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That is correct.
It works with any tablet or any phone with Bluetooth.
Best with larger phones though. If you're gonna use it with a phone. (Which i don't recommend)
Here's a very good very in depth review of the iPega 9023 controller with the Nvidia shield tablet.
Ipega pg-9023 Review with Nvida Shield
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That is correct.
It works with any tablet or any phone with Bluetooth.
Best with larger phones though. If you're gonna use it with a phone. (Which i don't recommend)
Here's a very good very in depth review of the iPega 9023 controller with the Nvidia shield tablet.
Ipega pg-9023 Review with Nvida Shield
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Does it work with trine 2
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Does it work with trine 2
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I do not have either the tablet or the controller yet, but, I found this info. And I remember reading that an update to Trine 2 fixed this, but here's info from around the web.
Dead trigger 1-2, Nova 3, half life 2, portal, modern combat 4-5, etc perfect
Doom 3 port android perfect.
Nvidia grid ok
Nvidia gamestream ok
And as for Trine 2
Failure to connect the graphics command.
No letter or leave the options menu.
To move the character cursor is not on the right stick.
If I disconnect the controller and restart the game, everything returns to normal.
Any other questions just ask.
Thanks. When you mean perfect I assume 100% working but good means not 100%? So a bit of trick will make trine 2 work.
I already have the shield controller but I like how the one you posted clamps on to the sides. Makes it really portable. And having the extra buttons for home etc is nice. Although I wish it could charge at the same time but the port is blocked.
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Thanks. When you mean perfect I assume 100% working but good means not 100%? So a bit of trick will make trine 2 work.
I already have the shield controller but I like how the one you posted clamps on to the sides. Makes it really portable. And having the extra buttons for home etc is nice. Although I wish it could charge at the same time but the port is blocked.
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Correct. Perfect means either 100% or 90% minimum. Good means about 80%.
And the controller I posted has Volume up, Volume down, Play/pause, Fast forward and fast back as well.
Anyone able to figure out the issue of the device losing battery charge WHILE connected to the charger? This is while using the device, of course.
This is the only thing holding me back in getting the tablet.
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Anyone able to figure out the issue of the device losing battery charge WHILE connected to the charger? This is while using the device, of course.
This is the only thing holding me back in getting the tablet.
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From everything I've heard, it's skype. It causes really bad drain on the battery on this tablet apparently.
loismustdie555 said:
From everything I've heard, it's skype. It causes really bad drain on the battery on this tablet apparently.
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I was referring to this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2864126
Battery drain occurs regardless of the apps you run.
Apparently, this is even talked about in Nvidia forum.
lanwarrior said:
I was referring to this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2864126
Battery drain occurs regardless of the apps you run.
Apparently, this is even talked about in Nvidia forum.
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Sorry. Didn't see that issue.
On a side note, I have to go to bed It's 12:52 am for me lol.
Any questions, I'll answer later.
Yah I just saw that and I'm wondering what's gonna happen. I have an opportunity to buy a shield of Craigslist brand new in the box with a receipt. With the cracked glass, would I be able to get a replacement even though I didn't purchase in store?
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Yah I just saw that and I'm wondering what's gonna happen. I have an opportunity to buy a shield of Craigslist brand new in the box with a receipt. With the cracked glass, would I be able to get a replacement even though I didn't purchase in store?
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Not entirely sure. Most likely not, and even if you could it wouldn't be worth the effort in my opinion.
Just buy one off Amazon or eBay or something. It's much easier. Especially if you do it through Amazon. (I just prefer Amazon over almost anything else. As I've always been satisfied with them.)
I'll be getting the Shield Tablet tomorrow. I will do tests. But I need to know what tests to run. lol
People please suggest tests.
Bye bye shield be returned on Monday. Great tablet but has been rushed out the door to early! 2nd batch should hopefully sort the rest of the problems out. Now have to wait for the nexus 8/9
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Bye bye shield be returned on Monday. Great tablet but has been rushed out the door to early! 2nd batch should hopefully sort the rest of the problems out. Now have to wait for the nexus 8/9
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That bad? What problems we're you having with it?
I love my SHIELD. 100% worth in my opinion. That being said it does have its issues, but nothing so problematic that it becomes a major everyday issue. So far the only thing thats REALLY bugged was that after about an hour of having the screen on at almost full brightness (I had stay awake on in dev options and was fiddling around in adb) I noticed significant screen burn where the nav bar was, and screen burn from a zooper widget I had been using on the home screen. It goes away though and after keeping the brightness under 80% it never happened again. Other then that, my battery drains while plugged into the wall when I have it in console mode, but I rarely use that feature.
Heres a pic of the widget burn. It went away after about 20-30 minutes.
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Other then that havn't had any issues with the controller, or any other features of the device. It's perfect for my needs and worth every cent.

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