I've got a pair of Westone 3's on the way, and I want to find a way to maximize the sound quality this phone can produce. There's several things wish discussing here:
1) Best audio player? I've heard Neutron and GoneMad are best for sound quality, but many prefer PowerAmp for the UI.
2) Are there any audio kernels for our device? I know Siyah and Voodoo and Faux had some legendary audio kernels tweaked for best performance - are there any for our phone?
3) Best EQ app? I've heard Viper4android and Noozoxide are great. Only tried the former - I need to test it more but so far I like it.
4) USB -> external device - > headphones? Any thoughts on that setup? Any experience with amp/DAC combo?
Audiophiles needed!
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Using Google play music + Apple earpods
sounds good so far with the Wolfson DAC chip inside
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Using Google play music + Apple earpods
sounds good so far with the Wolfson DAC chip inside
100% Pure Stock TW 4.1.2
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the U.S. variant does not have the Wolfson chip and instead uses Qualcomm’s own audio chip with the Snapdragon S4.
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the U.S. variant does not have the Wolfson chip and instead uses Qualcomm’s own audio chip with the Snapdragon S4.
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I'm pretty sure that all Qualcomm Snapdragon devices use Qualcomm's audio chip and it seems like the Samsung devices with Exynos processors get Wolfson audio chip.
On topic, I prefer using PowerAmp because it's a fairly great app and offers a lot of options (like EQ switches) for semi-audiophiles such as myself. I'm still using presets but may venture out and adjust EQs. I do have the PowerAmp ICS/JB skin installed to make it a little more streamlined.
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I use player pro as it has a decent amount of options, yet doesn't flood you with them. Also sound quality is pretty good too.... A lot better in my opinion than my 4th Gen iPad touch
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the U.S. variant does not have the Wolfson chip and instead uses Qualcomm’s own audio chip with the Snapdragon S4.
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I also use power amp. The presets are decent, but the tweaking, for a phone, is very good.
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I'm pretty sure that all Qualcomm Snapdragon devices use Qualcomm's audio chip and it seems like the Samsung devices with Exynos processors get Wolfson audio chip.
On topic, I prefer using PowerAmp because it's a fairly great app and offers a lot of options (like EQ switches) for semi-audiophiles such as myself. I'm still using presets but may venture out and adjust EQs. I do have the PowerAmp ICS/JB skin installed to make it a little more streamlined.
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I just wonder if an EQ is enough. If our DAC is of inferior quality, than an EQ can only do so much I'd think. Are you using high quality headphones?
I'm just curious - I don't want to limit the ability of my new set too much. I hope not to have to buy an external DAC but I've considered it to do an A/B comparison.
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I use Apollo for the player and AC!D for my sound mod. Im on 4.4 though, not sure what ur running.
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I just wonder if an EQ is enough. If our DAC is of inferior quality, than an EQ can only do so much I'd think. Are you using high quality headphones?
I'm just curious - I don't want to limit the ability of my new set too much. I hope not to have to buy an external DAC but I've considered it to do an A/B comparison.
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I'm still learning about how things work. Idk how drastic of a change we get but it can't hurt if you have a solid pair of headphones or earbuds. I'm rocking Klipsch S4A, not the best cuz they sound hollo or full of sound and I also have SkullCandy IEMs as well. I'm on a limited budget cuz I'm finishing grad school so money goes towards needs more than wants. Just curious, did you start this thread after checking out the one in the i9300 section? I like having this here so long as we can get good discussion in here. I stopped reading that thread once I realized we didn't have a Wolfson DAC in US variant S3 haha
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I use Apollo for the player and AC!D for my sound mod. Im on 4.4 though, not sure what ur running.
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Yea there's a lot of good music players out there. I've noticed a few more popup just in the time I've had my S3 over a year ago.
I've tried them all, with all types of sound mods.. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compares to DFX Player Pro. Hands down the best sounding music player for android. It just doesn't have the best UI but def usable.
Another vote for poweramp. I've tried easily over 10 apps, and finally ended up getting the pro version. It couples great audio, usability, and customization.
When I was on TW, the best audio kernel I thought was faux. Had, by far, the least amount of popping whenever trying to undervolt. Also, his app has a lot of good tweaks.
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Another vote for poweramp. I've tried easily over 10 apps, and finally ended up getting the pro version. It couples great audio, usability, and customization.
When I was on TW, the best audio kernel I thought was faux. Had, by far, the least amount of popping whenever trying to undervolt. Also, his app has a lot of good tweaks.
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I always thought the presence of audio popping depended on the type of processor you have (fast, nominal, or slow) which dictates how far you can UV. For some odd reason though, this doesn't apply to me on AOSP but it does on TW. For instance, I have a nominal cpu and can't UV below 1100 mv on TW regardless of kernel without hearing audio popping in music and ringtones. However, on AOSP, I use BMS which comes default UV and it works seamlessly with no audio popping.
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I always thought the presence of audio popping depended on the type of processor you have (fast, nominal, or slow) which dictates how far you can UV. For some odd reason though, this doesn't apply to me on AOSP but it does on TW. For instance, I have a nominal cpu and can't UV below 1100 mv on TW regardless of kernel without hearing audio popping in music and ringtones. However, on AOSP, I use BMS which comes default UV and it works seamlessly with no audio popping.
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I thought the same. The weird thing is, I have a fast processor and I would still get popping on most kernels (on TW) going under 925. Of course, it depended if I put my minimum cpu speed to under 384. Faux comes undervolted at 850 at 384 mhz and I never had any popping. I'm on 4.4 with BMS now, min cpu to 189 and no popping either.
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I've tried them all, with all types of sound mods.. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compares to DFX Player Pro. Hands down the best sounding music player for android. It just doesn't have the best UI but def usable.
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Have you compared to Neutron? Most audiophiles (particularly in Head-fi.org) seem to swear that it has
best SQ on Android. I'll check this one out though! Neutron suffers from the same problem though - nasty UI.
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I'm still learning about how things work. Idk how drastic of a change we get but it can't hurt if you have a solid pair of headphones or earbuds. I'm rocking Klipsch S4A, not the best cuz they sound hollo or full of sound and I also have SkullCandy IEMs as well. I'm on a limited budget cuz I'm finishing grad school so money goes towards needs more than wants. Just curious, did you start this thread after checking out the one in the i9300 section? I like having this here so long as we can get good discussion in here. I stopped reading that thread once I realized we didn't have a Wolfson DAC in US variant S3 haha
Yes I did! And yes, I figured that thread is useless to me since I have an inferior DAC. I wonder why Samsung did that to us...
Yea there's a lot of good music players out there. I've noticed a few more popup just in the time I've had my S3 over a year ago.
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Have you compared to Neutron? Most audiophiles (particularly in Head-fi.org) seem to swear that it has
best SQ on Android. I'll check this one out though! Neutron suffers from the same problem though - nasty UI.
Yes I did! And yes, I figured that thread is useless to me since I have an inferior DAC. I wonder why Samsung did that to us...
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Man, the lead up to this phone's release was interesting cuz I thought we'd be able to use Voodo Sound since people were saying it was all the rage on the OG Galaxy S. I was so letdown lol. I'd rather have a Qualcomm processor than a Exynos processor so that difference in DAC plays a lesser factor for me.
Edit: Not saying I dislike the audio quality in our S3 but hearing there's a better component makes me want the better component.
So you personally have no qualms about our DAC? Things sound the way they should through your headphones?
I'm anxious to hear if there's a big difference between the phone and my Denon receiver for my home theater. I'm gonna plug the headphones into both and see how big a difference it is.
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So you personally have no qualms about our DAC? Things sound the way they should through your headphones?
I'm anxious to hear if there's a big difference between the phone and my Denon receiver for my home theater. I'm gonna plug the headphones into both and see how big a difference it is.
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Nah its fine to me but I have to reiterate that I've only used two IEMs, Klipsch S4 (not the S4A, I mistyped earlier) and SkullCandy. I also only have an S3 and my 4th gen iPod touch but I prefer the S3 with the same headphones. My opinion would likely change if I had other IEMs (need to use a wider variety than just 2), I'm not a fan of over the ear headphones too.
Oh okay. I've never owned real nice headphones. I'm getting the Westone 3s as a gift for Christmas. They're 3-driver headphones! They are about $350 for a long time, and since they're making a new model, they're slashing prices. Amazon has them for $179 right now, and these are headphones that were often said to be the best money can buy for under $500 (and can reproduce sounds as well as some high end over the ear cans!). If you've got the money, it's an amazing steal that won't be around long.
I understand the tight budget - I'm in grad school as well. Getting an MS in Mathematics. What are you studying?
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Oh okay. I've never owned real nice headphones. I'm getting the Westone 3s as a gift for Christmas. They're 3-driver headphones! They are about $350 for a long time, and since they're making a new model, they're slashing prices. Amazon has them for $179 right now, and these are headphones that were often said to be the best money can buy for under $500 (and can reproduce sounds as well as some high end over the ear cans!). If you've got the money, it's an amazing steal that won't be around long.
I understand the tight budget - I'm in grad school as well. Getting an MS in Mathematics. What are you studying?
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That does look like a nice deal, definitely post back with your thoughts on them! I just want to know enough information to be able to adjust EQs if I dislike its current state in my music. Just want to recognize what XYZ does as I tune it. I'm not fond of purchasing $200+ buds cuz I don't fully feel I would listen to them enough to warrant the price but I probably do since I listen to music about 1-2 hours a day. I stopped reading that sound quality thread well before I purchased the Klipsch IEM as I started to care more about sound quality over the last six to eight months. They were my first IEM that I've ever purchased over $20 lol
I'm getting an MS in Sport Management. Good luck on your degree, it'll be worth the work!
Damn i thought we has the Wolfson DAC
qualcomm's DAC isn't all that bad though.
My iPhone 4 still sounds better though (stock)
Wolfson DAC FTW!
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How good is the sound quality through a pair of decent earphones? I saw the RMAA tests GSMArena did and it showed excellent results. I currently have a Desire and the sound quality through my sony earphones is pretty mediocre. So is this a good deal better?
Put it this way, if you follow instructions here to install to Voodoo sound hack you will be very impressed. Using Etymotic ER4 earphones I find the sound quality is easily as good as my X-series Sony Walkman with far more volume as well.
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Do you find your ER4 sound a bit "flat"? At least I have to apply a bit bass boost + some eq at the two lower frequencies with my ER4. Just curious though, would you recommend enabling the "Tune Speaker for Music" option? I've been testing different combination of settings (voodoo + CM7 dsp settings), so far I haven't settled on a setting I'm completely satisfied with.
can u please link me to that voodoo kernel? i saw two threads regarding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876132
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can u please link me to that voodoo kernel? i saw two threads regarding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876132
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Here are some kernel options that include Voodoo Sound (v5) and Voodoo color mods.
Netarchy optimized kernel with Voodoo Sound:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936219
Supercurio stock kernel (Voodoo Dev):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876132
Morfic optimized kernel with Voodoo Sound:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973125
OG stock kernel with Voodoo Sound:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
You should download the Voodoo Control App from the market as well.
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Do you find your ER4 sound a bit "flat"? At least I have to apply a bit bass boost + some eq at the two lower frequencies with my ER4. Just curious though, would you recommend enabling the "Tune Speaker for Music" option? I've been testing different combination of settings (voodoo + CM7 dsp settings), so far I haven't settled on a setting I'm completely satisfied with.
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I don't find any need for eq at all - in fact eq degrades the sound quality - do you have ER4P's or ER4S as they have slightly different frequency response? I have P's which are more portable device friendly.
Tune speaker is for non earphone use - just try it and decide for yourself.
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I don't find any need for eq at all - in fact eq degrades the sound quality - do you have ER4P's or ER4S as they have slightly different frequency response? I have P's which are more portable device friendly.
Tune speaker is for non earphone use - just try it and decide for yourself.
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I have an ER4P. I find lows rather weak with my ER4P without any eq or boost. This is compared to a Rockbox powered MP3 player without any eq/boost at all. Can you please elaborate how eq degrades the sound quality, eg. distortion? I do notice easily audible noise when Bass Boost is set to moderate or extreme though. I guess I'll leave at least Tune Speaker option on for now, I think I started to prefer it on.
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I have an ER4P. I find lows rather weak with my ER4P without any eq or boost. This is compared to a Rockbox powered MP3 player without any eq/boost at all. Can you please elaborate how eq degrades the sound quality, eg. distortion? I do notice easily audible noise when Bass Boost is set to moderate or extreme though. I guess I'll leave at least Tune Speaker option on for now, I think I started to prefer it on.
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I find eq just makes things sound less natural with overbloated bottom frequencies. Another possible explanation for our different observations may be that I have custom ear molds?
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I find eq just makes things sound less natural with overbloated bottom frequencies. Another possible explanation for our different observations may be that I have custom ear molds?
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Aaah I see! Well I don't know how much difference custom ear molds make, this is something only you would have the experience. I've also tried my friend's UE Triple.Fi 10, its lows were a lot stronger even without eq, so eq would be unnecessary with his earphone.
Another explanation could be that we have completely different taste.
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I find eq just makes things sound less natural with overbloated bottom frequencies. Another possible explanation for our different observations may be that I have custom ear molds?
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Ooooo I have the er4p as well. Are the custom earmolds worth it?
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Voodoo and skull candy. Can't go wrong
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Ooooo I have the er4p as well. Are the custom earmolds worth it?
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For me not a massive difference in sound but so much more comfortable.
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Aaah I see! Well I don't know how much difference custom ear molds make, this is something only you would have the experience. I've also tried my friend's UE Triple.Fi 10, its lows were a lot stronger even without eq, so eq would be unnecessary with his earphone.
Another explanation could be that we have completely different taste.
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Everyone's tastes are different - my son told me today that my setup sounded too bright for him. Also I got a new set of on ear headphones today (B & Ws) and they needed a lot of eq adjustment - sounding equally as fantastic as the ETY's now though!
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I have klipcsh s4 and they sound great on stock ns. I also like the ue triplefi but I broke those long ago at the bud and have some ue metrofi 10 I think (they've discontinued stuff so I get confused trying to remember their legacy models, I def don't get the cheap ones ) that sound great on stock but the wire is broken at the jack and they cut out sometimes need to fix those.
Shure makes some diesel buds. I have a pair of old ec2's that are still kicking after all these years but they sound horribly cold without eq. With eq they sound great. But man do they have fantastic build quality. Nice long sturdy cords, tough plugs and connection points, came with foam tips.
No matter what you're using I suggest comply foam tips, they made all the difference for the s4's. The tips they came with were weak.
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I have klipcsh s4 and they sound great on stock ns. I also like the ue triplefi but I broke those long ago at the bud and have some ue metrofi 10 I think (they've discontinued stuff so I get confused trying to remember their legacy models, I def don't get the cheap ones ) that sound great on stock but the wire is broken at the jack and they cut out sometimes need to fix those.
Shure makes some diesel buds. I have a pair of old ec2's that are still kicking after all these years but they sound horribly cold without eq. With eq they sound great. But man do they have fantastic build quality. Nice long sturdy cords, tough plugs and connection points, came with foam tips.
No matter what you're using I suggest comply foam tips, they made all the difference for the s4's. The tips they came with were weak.
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Awww I miss my old ec2s...my dog chewed up my last pair
I think it so great we are discussing high end earphones to use with our phone - this was the last thing I thought I'd be using with my NS. Credit to supercurio and Netarchy!
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I use a pair of bose mie2 mobile headset for 140 dollars, and the quality is just fantastic. And it is for phones, so has a insanely high quality inline Mic, button control, etc. Best thing I bought for my phone by far.
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Voodoo and skull candy. Can't go wrong
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thats what im using... skull candy titans. skull candy titans + voodoo = ear orgasms
irishrally said:
Here are some kernel options that include Voodoo Sound (v5) and Voodoo color mods.
Netarchy optimized kernel with Voodoo Sound:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936219
Supercurio stock kernel (Voodoo Dev):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876132
Morfic optimized kernel with Voodoo Sound:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973125
OG stock kernel with Voodoo Sound:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292
You should download the Voodoo Control App from the market as well.
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Og's is expertly recommended, battery life and voodoo sound to the maximum
JD
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At the moment I'm listening to 24 bit FLAC files downloaded from B&W's website - stunning but each track is about 50mb! I'm beginning to crave for that missing SD card slot
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Hi guys, any audiophiles here like me?
This music player has terrible interface. Basic functions doesn't work too well. BUT!!!
OMG the sound quality of this player is mind blowing. I really mean it. SGS and voodoo is known for it's SQ. However, despite it sounds clear, the sounds is not precise and out of place by an inch. Was a voodoo + equalizer app + poweramp fan and still am cuz of interface but i can forsee an android music player to better poweramp! Assuming this music player gets developed nicely. Give it a try guys and if you like the SQ, show dev some support just by rating etc.
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It gives the sounds of dedicated MP3s.
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Would like to try it.....but where is it? In market?
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Type neutron in search and it will come up.
I checked this out last week, but just couldn't stand the UI and layout of it... If it had more polish and a neater/more attractive UI I would use it.
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Would like to try it.....but where is it? In market?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval&feature=search_result
UI = Back to the 90s
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I checked this out last week, but just couldn't stand the UI and layout of it... If it had more polish and a neater/more attractive UI I would use it.
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Well I still appreciate the sound and hopefully the interface will become better as the app develops... hopefully lol
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UI = Back to the 90s
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80s mate lol
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best music player I tried so far, power amp is obviously good but this is better. Sound quality is what I was looking for sony xperia x10i (sony should give us this kind of music quality with new update)
man this trial is just for five days and i got no money to buy.All goodies come at a price i want a free version with limited features>. i barely use all those listed features anyways
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best music player I tried so far, power amp is obviously good but this is better. Sound quality is what I was looking for sony xperia x10i (sony should give us this kind of music quality with new update)
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nice to see someone appreciates the SQ of this app as much as I do
Bump for audiophiles
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80s mate lol
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Tsssspsss! 80s = Simple lines and pew pew space games | 90s = Baaaad graphics
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Tsssspsss! 80s = Simple lines and pew pew space games | 90s = Baaaad graphics
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Haha maybe you are right
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does indeed sound good but I feel Power Amp sounds just as good as it. both these sound better than Winamp and Ttpod but jt is just so ugly and unresponsivd too. button presses most times dont work, setting up a playlist on first start sucks as it just does not acction button presses and if you minimise program then go back to it it changes song automatically. good sound quality though, sorry,only positive i can think of. using Xperia MiUi 2.2.1
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does indeed sound good but I feel Power Amp sounds just as good as it. both these sound better than Winamp and Ttpod but jt is just so ugly and unresponsivd too. button presses most times dont work, setting up a playlist on first start sucks as it just does not acction button presses and if you minimise program then go back to it it changes song automatically. good sound quality though, sorry,only positive i can think of. using Xperia MiUi 2.2.1
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I suppose sound is very subjective and also depends on the headphones you use as well the phone you use. On SGS, neutron definitely widens soundstage with better sound separation whilst keeping the sound crisp and clear. Sure poweramp is clear but the sound is everywhere. Also with that filtering of highest frequency on neutron, the sound feels very calm to listen to as well as having the "fun" sound from general boost the app gives to SQ.
However as you said and as i said on OP sq is the only pro atm but any audiophiles would (or should ) use it just for that reason like i do
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I suppose sound is very subjective and also depends on the headphones you use as well the phone you use. On SGS, neutron definitely widens soundstage with better sound separation whilst keeping the sound crisp and clear. Sure poweramp is clear but the sound is everywhere. Also with that filtering of highest frequency on neutron, the sound feels very calm to listen to as well as having the "fun" sound from general boost the app gives to SQ.
However as you said and as i said on OP sq is the only pro atm but any audiophiles would (or should ) use it just for that reason like i do
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will give this another try i guess, was happy with the sound, using earphones that came with my old Sony. Ericsson w980, very strong sound from them. sound is great from the player but to purchase would be nice to know there is refinement of the ui planned. cheers
Another "good sound, bad UI" app is Rockbox. It has not been announced as "useable" yet, but many reports that it works fine. And I think it has more sound tweaking features than Neutron. It would be interesting to hear an audiophiles comparison between these two.
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will give this another try i guess, was happy with the sound, using earphones that came with my old Sony. Ericsson w980, very strong sound from them. sound is great from the player but to purchase would be nice to know there is refinement of the ui planned. cheers
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That UI needs to be sorted seriously... sadly i have no idea whether the dev is looking for ui update.
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I know that this topic has been discussed before. I have tried the voodoo app and i have bought it. It just seems to make the sound even worse. I believe the culprit is dsp manager. So here Is what happens, I usually keep my volume 2-3 notches below the highest volume. I am using the acoustic preset on dsp manager with the bass slightly higher. If I go 2-3 notches above my normal volume, the sound gets really crackely and choppy. I tried the same song, but with the same preset but with even more bass on my sansa and it sounded crystal clear and really powerful even at higher volumes. Can someone suggest a fix. I am running HFP 2.1 and Faux's kernel.
Edit: I am also running beats audio from like march. And I'm using the google play music app
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Try to freeze Dsp and install either EQ or Volume+, then give it a shot. As far as I'm concerned G2X doesn't have the necessary libraries for beat audio to work.
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Alright ill give that a try
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Try to freeze Dsp and install either EQ or Volume+, then give it a shot. As far as I'm concerned G2X doesn't have the necessary libraries for beat audio to work.
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Beats doesn't work and when you place the files where they go it breaks poweramp and dsp
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The first thing you need to do is remove the beats audio as it does nothing for the sound. Voodoo sound is much better as long as you have a kernel that has it built in. PowerAMP is one of the best equaliser apps out there for android but the overall sound quality coming from the G2x is not that good and will never be that good without better hardware.
The first thing you need to do is remove the beats audio as it does nothing for the sound. Voodoo sound is much better as long as you have a kernel that has it built in. PowerAMP is one of the best equaliser apps out there for android but the overall sound quality coming from the G2x is not that good and will never be that good without better hardware.
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I agree to disagree. Yes, get rid of beats. It didnt anything when I used it. Ditch google music its crap (intended for those of us who enjoy music? I think not.) I use PlayerPro (paid) with treble/bass booster preset with the bass knob almost all the way up. No matter how loud I make it, it kicks ass.
I'm also running RG2x MIUI with Faux kernel. Cleanest, smoothest, and all around best MIUI. Sorry Stormageddon. I used yours and my phone kept freezing. Not your fault, I know this. My phone just doesnt seem to like your roms. Or MIUI.us or Singh-MIUI's either for that matter. RG2x is the only one I can get to run with FC'ing a FC.
I use Winamp pro in conjunction with DSP manager and get GREAT sound (especially from FLAC ) I disable the EQ in DSP manager, Compression - Slight, Bass Boost - Slight, and depending on what I am listening to I will adjust Virtual Room. Everything else in DSP manager OFF. Then, in Winamp I use the Awesome 10 band EQ to adjust the sound to my liking.
I've been using winamp lately, but it still cannot drive my headphones as well as my sansa. Probably just the ****ty audio hardware from LG.
Also how do I get rid of beats audio?
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zoppp said:
I've been using winamp lately, but it still cannot drive my headphones as well as my sansa. Probably just the ****ty audio hardware from LG.
Also how do I get rid of beats audio?
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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I don't know but my SanDisk Sansa is able to put out alot more power. The bass is alot more powerful on it too.
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Winamp for android is **** anyway. What u need is poweramp with a custom equal so it puts ur headphones to the limit before making it sound like ****. That and Volume++. I promise you will see a difference
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Try n7player....pretty good. You have to pay but I think u have a 7 day trial first, then u have to buy afterwards.
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I don't know but my SanDisk Sansa is able to put out alot more power. The bass is alot more powerful on it too.
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if you are on HFP 2.1 and Faux's kernel did you try the "DSP Manager' settings?
TorrentzRock said:
I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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The actual hardware that is in the LG G2x is the same Wolfson DAC that is in the iPod touches and the iPhones. That DAC is really not that good especially for an audiophile. I never use my phone for music, and yes I only listen to FLAC or better and have a complete Sennheiser setup. I have tried making the audio better with an amp but even that just made the quality barely noticeably better. The quality is not that good and will never be that good.
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The actual hardware that is in the LG G2x is the same Wolfson DAC that is in the iPod touches and the iPhones. That DAC is really not that good especially for an audiophile. I never use my phone for music, and yes I only listen to FLAC or better and have a complete Sennheiser setup. I have tried making the audio better with an amp but even that just made the quality barely noticeably better. The quality is not that good and will never be that good.
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Realistically can you expect more than what it is from a phone for this price?
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Kind of sad that my $50 SanDisk Sansa performs better than this expensive phone.
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A2DP ftw
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Kind of sad that my $50 SanDisk Sansa performs better than this expensive phone.
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With voodoo sound and poweramp there's no way.. with that combo it sounds better than My iPod touch
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Yes way. My sansa can send bass that is skullcrushing (Sony xb-500 headphones). My phone can barely drive my headphones. If I set it to the loudest setting the sound is no where close even with poweramp.
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Hi,
Could someone give some feedback on the sound quality of the Nexus 5, any idea what sort of DAC the phone is using? Is it using something similar to the LG G2 as that has the same chipset.
Thanks
I think the Snapdragon 800 uses the same awesome audiochip feom qualcom as the other Snapdragon 600 devices. But we have to test this out..
I'll test it with my ciem as soon as it arrives
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costcutter said:
Hi,
Could someone give some feedback on the sound quality of the Nexus 5, any idea what sort of DAC the phone is using? Is it using something similar to the LG G2 as that has the same chipset.
Thanks
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Im not 100% sure but i dont think its the same chipset as the g2
I am no audio expert but I was listening to music last night on headphones and was very impressed with the quality of sound. It was just about loud enough which was my main worry. Bass was very good too. I was not using stock music player as I use a Synology media server and was therefore using DS audio. I just need to get a decent graphic equaliser installed as I can't find one on the phone. Any suggestions?
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irhut said:
I am no audio expert but I was listening to music last night on headphones and was very impressed with the quality of sound. It was just about loud enough which was my main worry. Bass was very good too. I was not using stock music player as I use a Synology media server and was therefore using DS audio. I just need to get a decent graphic equaliser installed as I can't find one on the phone. Any suggestions?
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You need to use DS audio? Else you could use the jetaudio player or neutron.
If you need a systemwide one, what about dsp manager from cyanogen? I think they'll soon got a ROM up for the N5.
Please someone knows what is the nexus 5 DAC?
it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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Please someone knows what is the nexus 5 DAC?
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bl4ckdr4g00n said:
it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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Great news!!!
I returned my G2 after comparing head-2-head with my GS3 w/Wolfson. Some like it though.
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it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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If that was true shouldnt that be in the specs of the nexus 5. Theres no mention of the dac on the spec sheet so i wouldnt be so confident.
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it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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This is actually a Snapdragon 800 which is better than what the S4 and the HTC one has. To my knowledge, only the Galaxy note III and LG G2 have the same SoC in the states
If the SoC is Snapdragon 800 then it already has WCD9320 integrated, which is a very good DAC.
Hence WCD9320 is 100% confirmed, unless LG is crazy and stupid, and they solder another DAC on the board.
Actually, the amplifier matters more, and affects a large portion of sound quality.
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If that was true shouldnt that be in the specs of the nexus 5. Theres no mention of the dac on the spec sheet so i wouldnt be so confident.
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How about the loud speakers? When watching YouTube videos for example?
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If the SoC is Snapdragon 800 then it already has WCD9320 integrated, which is a very good DAC.
Hence WCD9320 is 100% confirmed, unless LG is crazy and stupid, and they solder another DAC on the board.
Actually, the amplifier matters more, and affects a large portion of sound quality.
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does the nexus 5 have a good amplifier though?
anyone able to compare this to the htc one?
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I am no audio expert but I was listening to music last night on headphones and was very impressed with the quality of sound. It was just about loud enough which was my main worry. Bass was very good too. I was not using stock music player as I use a Synology media server and was therefore using DS audio. I just need to get a decent graphic equaliser installed as I can't find one on the phone. Any suggestions?
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Viper4Android is the way to go!
according to the service manual for the nexus 5 the DAC is indeed the WCD9320. so same as in the G2.
from listening to it its better than the nexus 4 but not as good as the woflsons in the S3 but still very decent.
Listen to some city and color and you will enjoy the speakers and any headphones you plug in .
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does the N5 support audio thru usb OTG so we can use external DAC/AMP? I've read sumwhere mention usb OTG in kit kat. However, this doesn't mean the nexus 5 support USB OTG nativly (like the N4).
I am somewhat underwhelmed with the audio quality on the N5,unlike most I knew that the two grills on the bottom of the phone only one of which is a loud speaker,However the audio is IMO piss poor.via headphones its outstanding paired with my seneizer cx300II's (spelling) via the loudspeaker its very quiet and tinny,not to mentions the grills are VERY easily muffled. Just my two cents.
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imeem said:
does the N5 support audio thru usb OTG so we can use external DAC/AMP? I've read sumwhere mention usb OTG in kit kat. However, this doesn't mean the nexus 5 support USB OTG nativly (like the N4).
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It's not looking like it supports it right out of the box.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511921
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I did't create this app. I was using PowerAmp for years since I bought it but gave this app a try and noticed a significant improvement in audio quality so this is just to raise awareness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mp&hl=en
Has features like 64bit processing that PowerAmp doesn't have. The UI is a little clunky but I personally feel the sound quality more than makes up for it. It sounds great even with the included earphones that came with the G2. There's also a evaluation version to try it out. Try it out and leave your comments!:good:
OMG I hate the UI in that player so much so it can be all the things in the world I want but I still wouldn't use it. I've tried several times to become friends with it but I just can't. I've moved on. I hate it that much.
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OMG I hate the UI in that player so much so it can be all the things in the world I want but I still wouldn't use it. I've tried several times to become friends with it but I just can't. I've moved on. I hate it that much.
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I agree. The UI leaves a lot to be desired but I suppose it's the sacrifice one has to make to use the best sounding player on the Play store. Though one might argue for a paid app, there should be no sacrifices.
If they remake the UI sometime I will definitely give it another try.
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I use shuttle+
It got built in equalizer and great interface. Better than the stock.
On reviews the stock played got good score, but it's really nothing compared to my old Xperia Arc.......
Edit: the equalizer, stock or nonstock! It feels like it suppresses the sound. Best when I disable it.. weird..
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Nothing beats Shuttle and viper4android.
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For the record, it's got a 4.6 rating with 3275 users. That should tell you something.
Try playerpro.. Another paid app.. Great interface and widgets and themes... And sound quality too us good with the built in equaliser...
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Neutron supposedly the engines are all about quality at the sacrifice of efficiency (high CPU usage) and the UI is horrid. I played with it a bit, but at the time I only had mp3's of average 180kbit bitrate and I couldn't hear a significant difference so I went back to PlayerPro which isn't horrid to use.
And people, mods that make things louder don't make them better.
Big fan of neutron. I actually get better bass than viper
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Just tried it. I like it. Paired with Viper, it sounds incredible.
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After playing with it some more, I went back to Poweramp. Neutron is far too clunky and buggy. Being I am running Viper4Android anyways, the audio quality difference was minimal.
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Neutron has the Best sound On play store but i don't have enough space in my 16go so i prefer poweramp because i use only mp3 320kbps...
I should be receiving the Westone 3 I bought from Amazon today. Can't wait to hear them out.
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tatootie67 said:
Big fan of neutron. I actually get better bass than viper
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"Better bass" is the same as "more bass" to you, right?
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"Better bass" is the same as "more bass" to you, right?
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No. Better bass means better sounding, less distortion
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Poweramp sounds really awful compared to neutron, but the ****ty UI, persistence and insane cpu usage makes it not worth it.
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