Nexus 5 Audio/Sound (DAC) Quality - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Could someone give some feedback on the sound quality of the Nexus 5, any idea what sort of DAC the phone is using? Is it using something similar to the LG G2 as that has the same chipset.
Thanks

I think the Snapdragon 800 uses the same awesome audiochip feom qualcom as the other Snapdragon 600 devices. But we have to test this out..
I'll test it with my ciem as soon as it arrives
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costcutter said:
Hi,
Could someone give some feedback on the sound quality of the Nexus 5, any idea what sort of DAC the phone is using? Is it using something similar to the LG G2 as that has the same chipset.
Thanks
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Im not 100% sure but i dont think its the same chipset as the g2

I am no audio expert but I was listening to music last night on headphones and was very impressed with the quality of sound. It was just about loud enough which was my main worry. Bass was very good too. I was not using stock music player as I use a Synology media server and was therefore using DS audio. I just need to get a decent graphic equaliser installed as I can't find one on the phone. Any suggestions?
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irhut said:
I am no audio expert but I was listening to music last night on headphones and was very impressed with the quality of sound. It was just about loud enough which was my main worry. Bass was very good too. I was not using stock music player as I use a Synology media server and was therefore using DS audio. I just need to get a decent graphic equaliser installed as I can't find one on the phone. Any suggestions?
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You need to use DS audio? Else you could use the jetaudio player or neutron.
If you need a systemwide one, what about dsp manager from cyanogen? I think they'll soon got a ROM up for the N5.

Please someone knows what is the nexus 5 DAC?

it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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Please someone knows what is the nexus 5 DAC?
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bl4ckdr4g00n said:
it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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Great news!!!

I returned my G2 after comparing head-2-head with my GS3 w/Wolfson. Some like it though.

bl4ckdr4g00n said:
it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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If that was true shouldnt that be in the specs of the nexus 5. Theres no mention of the dac on the spec sheet so i wouldnt be so confident.

bl4ckdr4g00n said:
it's WCD9320. The same one as in G2
Just keep in mind that if the Soc is Snapdragon S4, regardless the generation, there is always a very good DAC inside .
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7205/LGG2-9955.jpg
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This is actually a Snapdragon 800 which is better than what the S4 and the HTC one has. To my knowledge, only the Galaxy note III and LG G2 have the same SoC in the states

If the SoC is Snapdragon 800 then it already has WCD9320 integrated, which is a very good DAC.
Hence WCD9320 is 100% confirmed, unless LG is crazy and stupid, and they solder another DAC on the board.
Actually, the amplifier matters more, and affects a large portion of sound quality.
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If that was true shouldnt that be in the specs of the nexus 5. Theres no mention of the dac on the spec sheet so i wouldnt be so confident.
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How about the loud speakers? When watching YouTube videos for example?

bl4ckdr4g00n said:
If the SoC is Snapdragon 800 then it already has WCD9320 integrated, which is a very good DAC.
Hence WCD9320 is 100% confirmed, unless LG is crazy and stupid, and they solder another DAC on the board.
Actually, the amplifier matters more, and affects a large portion of sound quality.
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does the nexus 5 have a good amplifier though?
anyone able to compare this to the htc one?

irhut said:
I am no audio expert but I was listening to music last night on headphones and was very impressed with the quality of sound. It was just about loud enough which was my main worry. Bass was very good too. I was not using stock music player as I use a Synology media server and was therefore using DS audio. I just need to get a decent graphic equaliser installed as I can't find one on the phone. Any suggestions?
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Viper4Android is the way to go!

according to the service manual for the nexus 5 the DAC is indeed the WCD9320. so same as in the G2.
from listening to it its better than the nexus 4 but not as good as the woflsons in the S3 but still very decent.

Listen to some city and color and you will enjoy the speakers and any headphones you plug in .
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does the N5 support audio thru usb OTG so we can use external DAC/AMP? I've read sumwhere mention usb OTG in kit kat. However, this doesn't mean the nexus 5 support USB OTG nativly (like the N4).

I am somewhat underwhelmed with the audio quality on the N5,unlike most I knew that the two grills on the bottom of the phone only one of which is a loud speaker,However the audio is IMO piss poor.via headphones its outstanding paired with my seneizer cx300II's (spelling) via the loudspeaker its very quiet and tinny,not to mentions the grills are VERY easily muffled. Just my two cents.
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imeem said:
does the N5 support audio thru usb OTG so we can use external DAC/AMP? I've read sumwhere mention usb OTG in kit kat. However, this doesn't mean the nexus 5 support USB OTG nativly (like the N4).
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It's not looking like it supports it right out of the box.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511921
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How is the audio on the nexus s compared to mp3 players?

So I have been using my nexus s for a while and was wondering how the nexus s holds up against other mp3 players in terms of audio quality? I have heard great things about Samsung in this regard but would love to hear your option.
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I don't know, but gsmarena does these pretty detailed audio line in quality tests when they review phones. The nexus one result was surprisingly good. I haven't searched but take a look and see if they reviewed the nexus s yet. If so they likely did the audio test for it.
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I don't know, but gsmarena does these pretty detailed audio line in quality tests when they review phones. The nexus one result was surprisingly good. I haven't searched but take a look and see if they reviewed the nexus s yet. If so they likely did the audio test for it.
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man their reviews are confusing. They do tell you what they think but right after that have a different graph with a different option.
I find it does my drum and bass justice via lithium player....wicked old skool
Get poweramp, I think its the best mp3 player I've heard.
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Stock mp3 player in nexus s is decent, not terrible. (previously owned Sony W980i walkman phone which was awesome)
however i got carried away with Poweramp which comes with full pack 10B graphic equalizer. i played with it too much until it busted my earphones.
nevertheless i would recommend poweramp if music is what you need.
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Stock mp3 player in nexus s is decent, not terrible. (previously owned Sony W980i walkman phone which was awesome)
however i got carried away with Poweramp which comes with full pack 10B graphic equalizer. i played with it too much until it busted my earphones.
nevertheless i would recommend poweramp if music is what you need.
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lol for some reason this just made me laugh for no reason. i'm sorry your earphones got busted dude, not trying to make fun. it was just funny the way you said it.
were they the stock ones?
Winamp beta is worth a shot, the ear phones that came with the phone are pretty good too, good bass on 320kbs audio.
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CM nightlies with DSP. Works and sounds great.

Is the Sound as good as the Atrix?

Anyone with an Atrix bought the sensation yet?
Specifically, Is the sound quality ok (I have an Atrix and I think sound is the best of any device I ever owned) ...
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Not a Sensation owner (yet, mine is coming soon), so I can't judge on a first-person perspective.
However, I can refer you to an extensive review done by GSMArena that tests this area as well.
Main Review Page: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-review-605.php
The Page with Speaker Test: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-review-605p5.php
The Page with Audio Quality Test: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-review-605p7.php
yikes.. the speaker is even worse than the Nexus One if you compare the numbers in the gsmarena reviews for both..
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yikes.. the speaker is even worse than the Nexus One if you compare the numbers in the gsmarena reviews for both..
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That is so disappointing. The Nexus One speaker was a joke. It's not important to many people, but I listen to podcasts and satellite radio over the loudspeaker while doing work and the Nexus One couldn't be heard over even the slightest bit of noise. Maybe root and DSP will help, but this makes switching to the Sensation a much tougher decision than I thought it would be.
I dont understand what it is with HTC these cheap POS speakers...at least the ones on the G2 and the MyTouch4g had decent volume
The older buisness phones like the kaiser and the touchpro had very good speakers but thats probably because they were designed to be used on speaker phone alot more.
The speaker on the sensation is not that bad for calls but if you were planning on listening to music on it you will be disapointed, but I dont imagine anyone would want listen to music on a phone speaker
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The older buisness phones like the kaiser and the touchpro had very good speakers but thats probably because they were designed to be used on speaker phone alot more.
The speaker on the sensation is not that bad for calls but if you were planning on listening to music on it you will be disapointed, but I dont imagine anyone would want listen to music on a phone speaker
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i do and most of my friends do as well. Sony and Samsung phones sound SO good that you would think a small audio system is playing not a cell phone. loud too. useful at BBQs, listen to radio before bedtime, at work etc.
HD2 and Nexus One have been very disappointing in this department. Sony Music phone and Vibrant have been very good.
I definitely think that the external speaker volume is lower than my hd2, which was really loud. Is there a software fix for that?
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Player pro was the only fix I could find. But it plays the music louder than every other player I tried. It's made my loudspeaker serviceable until we can get rooted.
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Player pro was the only fix I could find. But it plays the music louder than every other player I tried. It's made my loudspeaker serviceable until we can get rooted.
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I'm thinking that player pro would be for music, what about general system sounds, like notifications, coming out the speaker?
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kolyan said:
Samsung phones sound SO good that you would think a small audio system is playing not a cell phone.
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Not the SGS2. It's speaker is maybe a little bit better than the DHDs, which is CRAP (imo)
The speaker is one of the only things that the iPhone 4 does better than the latest HTC flagships.
kolyan said:
i do and most of my friends do as well. Sony and Samsung phones sound SO good that you would think a small audio system is playing not a cell phone. loud too. useful at BBQs, listen to radio before bedtime, at work etc.
HD2 and Nexus One have been very disappointing in this department. Sony Music phone and Vibrant have been very good.
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While the SGS phones are amazing compared to the N1, that doesn't say much. I come from the Motorola Droid series and those things are like boomboxes compared to any of these phones. SE seems to do a good job too. SGS is in the middle of the pack. I need my ringer on 5/7 or 6/7 to hear it outdoors for my Nexus S, but the Milestone rings like a champ at 3/7.
But here's the thing. The N1 also had a crappy earpiece. How is the earpiece on the Sensation? As important as speakerphone is, I'm sure the earpiece is even more important. If you can't make calls on the earpiece, then how is speakerphone gonna fix anything?
If where talking about ringing. I can hear the sensation with no problems. When I get a call.
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Better Audio?

I know that this topic has been discussed before. I have tried the voodoo app and i have bought it. It just seems to make the sound even worse. I believe the culprit is dsp manager. So here Is what happens, I usually keep my volume 2-3 notches below the highest volume. I am using the acoustic preset on dsp manager with the bass slightly higher. If I go 2-3 notches above my normal volume, the sound gets really crackely and choppy. I tried the same song, but with the same preset but with even more bass on my sansa and it sounded crystal clear and really powerful even at higher volumes. Can someone suggest a fix. I am running HFP 2.1 and Faux's kernel.
Edit: I am also running beats audio from like march. And I'm using the google play music app
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Try to freeze Dsp and install either EQ or Volume+, then give it a shot. As far as I'm concerned G2X doesn't have the necessary libraries for beat audio to work.
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Alright ill give that a try
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DupleX01 said:
Try to freeze Dsp and install either EQ or Volume+, then give it a shot. As far as I'm concerned G2X doesn't have the necessary libraries for beat audio to work.
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Beats doesn't work and when you place the files where they go it breaks poweramp and dsp
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The first thing you need to do is remove the beats audio as it does nothing for the sound. Voodoo sound is much better as long as you have a kernel that has it built in. PowerAMP is one of the best equaliser apps out there for android but the overall sound quality coming from the G2x is not that good and will never be that good without better hardware.
The first thing you need to do is remove the beats audio as it does nothing for the sound. Voodoo sound is much better as long as you have a kernel that has it built in. PowerAMP is one of the best equaliser apps out there for android but the overall sound quality coming from the G2x is not that good and will never be that good without better hardware.
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I agree to disagree. Yes, get rid of beats. It didnt anything when I used it. Ditch google music its crap (intended for those of us who enjoy music? I think not.) I use PlayerPro (paid) with treble/bass booster preset with the bass knob almost all the way up. No matter how loud I make it, it kicks ass.
I'm also running RG2x MIUI with Faux kernel. Cleanest, smoothest, and all around best MIUI. Sorry Stormageddon. I used yours and my phone kept freezing. Not your fault, I know this. My phone just doesnt seem to like your roms. Or MIUI.us or Singh-MIUI's either for that matter. RG2x is the only one I can get to run with FC'ing a FC.
I use Winamp pro in conjunction with DSP manager and get GREAT sound (especially from FLAC ) I disable the EQ in DSP manager, Compression - Slight, Bass Boost - Slight, and depending on what I am listening to I will adjust Virtual Room. Everything else in DSP manager OFF. Then, in Winamp I use the Awesome 10 band EQ to adjust the sound to my liking.
I've been using winamp lately, but it still cannot drive my headphones as well as my sansa. Probably just the ****ty audio hardware from LG.
Also how do I get rid of beats audio?
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I've been using winamp lately, but it still cannot drive my headphones as well as my sansa. Probably just the ****ty audio hardware from LG.
Also how do I get rid of beats audio?
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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I don't know but my SanDisk Sansa is able to put out alot more power. The bass is alot more powerful on it too.
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Winamp for android is **** anyway. What u need is poweramp with a custom equal so it puts ur headphones to the limit before making it sound like ****. That and Volume++. I promise you will see a difference
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Try n7player....pretty good. You have to pay but I think u have a 7 day trial first, then u have to buy afterwards.
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I don't know but my SanDisk Sansa is able to put out alot more power. The bass is alot more powerful on it too.
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if you are on HFP 2.1 and Faux's kernel did you try the "DSP Manager' settings?
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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The actual hardware that is in the LG G2x is the same Wolfson DAC that is in the iPod touches and the iPhones. That DAC is really not that good especially for an audiophile. I never use my phone for music, and yes I only listen to FLAC or better and have a complete Sennheiser setup. I have tried making the audio better with an amp but even that just made the quality barely noticeably better. The quality is not that good and will never be that good.
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The actual hardware that is in the LG G2x is the same Wolfson DAC that is in the iPod touches and the iPhones. That DAC is really not that good especially for an audiophile. I never use my phone for music, and yes I only listen to FLAC or better and have a complete Sennheiser setup. I have tried making the audio better with an amp but even that just made the quality barely noticeably better. The quality is not that good and will never be that good.
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Realistically can you expect more than what it is from a phone for this price?
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Kind of sad that my $50 SanDisk Sansa performs better than this expensive phone.
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A2DP ftw
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Kind of sad that my $50 SanDisk Sansa performs better than this expensive phone.
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With voodoo sound and poweramp there's no way.. with that combo it sounds better than My iPod touch
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Yes way. My sansa can send bass that is skullcrushing (Sony xb-500 headphones). My phone can barely drive my headphones. If I set it to the loudest setting the sound is no where close even with poweramp.
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7.1 Channel Sound Available on Note 3

The Video app on the Note 3 has a setting for 7.1 channel audio. It sounds awesome withe earphones.
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The Video app on the Note 3 has a setting for 7.1 channel audio. It sounds awesome withe earphones.
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Will that option pass through Bluetooth 4.0? Would be nice to hear that in my car.
Doubt it.
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The Video app on the Note 3 has a setting for 7.1 channel audio. It sounds awesome withe earphones.
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The only possible way you could hear a difference in your headphones is if your headphones are 7.1 themselves.
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The only possible way you could hear a difference in your headphones is if your headphones are 7.1 themselves.
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Not true. It wouldn't sound like true 7.1 but there's lots of software emulation out there for surround sound. Take any device with a Surround and Stereo option with stereo headset, speakers, earbuds etc and there's a marked difference. Not as good as having real 7.1 hardware but it's an improvement depending on what you're listening to (I like it better for movies but it's not good for music typically).
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Not true. It wouldn't sound like true 7.1 but there's lots of software emulation out there for surround sound. Take any device with a Surround and Stereo option with stereo headset, speakers, earbuds etc and there's a marked difference. Not as good as having real 7.1 hardware but it's an improvement depending on what you're listening to (I like it better for movies but it's not good for music typically).
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You're right. I checked again its not actual 7.1, but "Virtual 7.1 Channel" - the closest your going to get to 7.1 on a phone.
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Music app also has this setting and more.
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You're right. I checked again its not actual 7.1, but "Virtual 7.1 Channel" - the closest your going to get to 7.1 on a phone.
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You still need headphones with the capability.
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You still need headphones with the capability.
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Not to hear a difference, you don't. Have you honestly not ever heard of virtual surround on stereo speakers? It's been around since the 5.1 days. It sounds no where near as good as having actual surround sound hardware but there is a big difference in sound. Naturally if you prefer it is dependent on you but there IS a difference. As I stated earlier, I found it to be an improvement for movies but not music.

The Official Sound Quality Thread

I've got a pair of Westone 3's on the way, and I want to find a way to maximize the sound quality this phone can produce. There's several things wish discussing here:
1) Best audio player? I've heard Neutron and GoneMad are best for sound quality, but many prefer PowerAmp for the UI.
2) Are there any audio kernels for our device? I know Siyah and Voodoo and Faux had some legendary audio kernels tweaked for best performance - are there any for our phone?
3) Best EQ app? I've heard Viper4android and Noozoxide are great. Only tried the former - I need to test it more but so far I like it.
4) USB -> external device - > headphones? Any thoughts on that setup? Any experience with amp/DAC combo?
Audiophiles needed!
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Using Google play music + Apple earpods
sounds good so far with the Wolfson DAC chip inside
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Using Google play music + Apple earpods
sounds good so far with the Wolfson DAC chip inside
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the U.S. variant does not have the Wolfson chip and instead uses Qualcomm’s own audio chip with the Snapdragon S4.
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the U.S. variant does not have the Wolfson chip and instead uses Qualcomm’s own audio chip with the Snapdragon S4.
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I'm pretty sure that all Qualcomm Snapdragon devices use Qualcomm's audio chip and it seems like the Samsung devices with Exynos processors get Wolfson audio chip.
On topic, I prefer using PowerAmp because it's a fairly great app and offers a lot of options (like EQ switches) for semi-audiophiles such as myself. I'm still using presets but may venture out and adjust EQs. I do have the PowerAmp ICS/JB skin installed to make it a little more streamlined.
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I use player pro as it has a decent amount of options, yet doesn't flood you with them. Also sound quality is pretty good too.... A lot better in my opinion than my 4th Gen iPad touch
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the U.S. variant does not have the Wolfson chip and instead uses Qualcomm’s own audio chip with the Snapdragon S4.
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I also use power amp. The presets are decent, but the tweaking, for a phone, is very good.
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I'm pretty sure that all Qualcomm Snapdragon devices use Qualcomm's audio chip and it seems like the Samsung devices with Exynos processors get Wolfson audio chip.
On topic, I prefer using PowerAmp because it's a fairly great app and offers a lot of options (like EQ switches) for semi-audiophiles such as myself. I'm still using presets but may venture out and adjust EQs. I do have the PowerAmp ICS/JB skin installed to make it a little more streamlined.
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I just wonder if an EQ is enough. If our DAC is of inferior quality, than an EQ can only do so much I'd think. Are you using high quality headphones?
I'm just curious - I don't want to limit the ability of my new set too much. I hope not to have to buy an external DAC but I've considered it to do an A/B comparison.
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I use Apollo for the player and AC!D for my sound mod. Im on 4.4 though, not sure what ur running.
PsiPhiDan said:
I just wonder if an EQ is enough. If our DAC is of inferior quality, than an EQ can only do so much I'd think. Are you using high quality headphones?
I'm just curious - I don't want to limit the ability of my new set too much. I hope not to have to buy an external DAC but I've considered it to do an A/B comparison.
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I'm still learning about how things work. Idk how drastic of a change we get but it can't hurt if you have a solid pair of headphones or earbuds. I'm rocking Klipsch S4A, not the best cuz they sound hollo or full of sound and I also have SkullCandy IEMs as well. I'm on a limited budget cuz I'm finishing grad school so money goes towards needs more than wants. Just curious, did you start this thread after checking out the one in the i9300 section? I like having this here so long as we can get good discussion in here. I stopped reading that thread once I realized we didn't have a Wolfson DAC in US variant S3 haha
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I use Apollo for the player and AC!D for my sound mod. Im on 4.4 though, not sure what ur running.
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Yea there's a lot of good music players out there. I've noticed a few more popup just in the time I've had my S3 over a year ago.
I've tried them all, with all types of sound mods.. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compares to DFX Player Pro. Hands down the best sounding music player for android. It just doesn't have the best UI but def usable.
Another vote for poweramp. I've tried easily over 10 apps, and finally ended up getting the pro version. It couples great audio, usability, and customization.
When I was on TW, the best audio kernel I thought was faux. Had, by far, the least amount of popping whenever trying to undervolt. Also, his app has a lot of good tweaks.
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Another vote for poweramp. I've tried easily over 10 apps, and finally ended up getting the pro version. It couples great audio, usability, and customization.
When I was on TW, the best audio kernel I thought was faux. Had, by far, the least amount of popping whenever trying to undervolt. Also, his app has a lot of good tweaks.
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I always thought the presence of audio popping depended on the type of processor you have (fast, nominal, or slow) which dictates how far you can UV. For some odd reason though, this doesn't apply to me on AOSP but it does on TW. For instance, I have a nominal cpu and can't UV below 1100 mv on TW regardless of kernel without hearing audio popping in music and ringtones. However, on AOSP, I use BMS which comes default UV and it works seamlessly with no audio popping.
SlimSnoopOS said:
I always thought the presence of audio popping depended on the type of processor you have (fast, nominal, or slow) which dictates how far you can UV. For some odd reason though, this doesn't apply to me on AOSP but it does on TW. For instance, I have a nominal cpu and can't UV below 1100 mv on TW regardless of kernel without hearing audio popping in music and ringtones. However, on AOSP, I use BMS which comes default UV and it works seamlessly with no audio popping.
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I thought the same. The weird thing is, I have a fast processor and I would still get popping on most kernels (on TW) going under 925. Of course, it depended if I put my minimum cpu speed to under 384. Faux comes undervolted at 850 at 384 mhz and I never had any popping. I'm on 4.4 with BMS now, min cpu to 189 and no popping either.
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I've tried them all, with all types of sound mods.. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compares to DFX Player Pro. Hands down the best sounding music player for android. It just doesn't have the best UI but def usable.
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Have you compared to Neutron? Most audiophiles (particularly in Head-fi.org) seem to swear that it has
best SQ on Android. I'll check this one out though! Neutron suffers from the same problem though - nasty UI.
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I'm still learning about how things work. Idk how drastic of a change we get but it can't hurt if you have a solid pair of headphones or earbuds. I'm rocking Klipsch S4A, not the best cuz they sound hollo or full of sound and I also have SkullCandy IEMs as well. I'm on a limited budget cuz I'm finishing grad school so money goes towards needs more than wants. Just curious, did you start this thread after checking out the one in the i9300 section? I like having this here so long as we can get good discussion in here. I stopped reading that thread once I realized we didn't have a Wolfson DAC in US variant S3 haha
Yes I did! And yes, I figured that thread is useless to me since I have an inferior DAC. I wonder why Samsung did that to us...
Yea there's a lot of good music players out there. I've noticed a few more popup just in the time I've had my S3 over a year ago.
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Have you compared to Neutron? Most audiophiles (particularly in Head-fi.org) seem to swear that it has
best SQ on Android. I'll check this one out though! Neutron suffers from the same problem though - nasty UI.
Yes I did! And yes, I figured that thread is useless to me since I have an inferior DAC. I wonder why Samsung did that to us...
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Man, the lead up to this phone's release was interesting cuz I thought we'd be able to use Voodo Sound since people were saying it was all the rage on the OG Galaxy S. I was so letdown lol. I'd rather have a Qualcomm processor than a Exynos processor so that difference in DAC plays a lesser factor for me.
Edit: Not saying I dislike the audio quality in our S3 but hearing there's a better component makes me want the better component.
So you personally have no qualms about our DAC? Things sound the way they should through your headphones?
I'm anxious to hear if there's a big difference between the phone and my Denon receiver for my home theater. I'm gonna plug the headphones into both and see how big a difference it is.
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So you personally have no qualms about our DAC? Things sound the way they should through your headphones?
I'm anxious to hear if there's a big difference between the phone and my Denon receiver for my home theater. I'm gonna plug the headphones into both and see how big a difference it is.
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Nah its fine to me but I have to reiterate that I've only used two IEMs, Klipsch S4 (not the S4A, I mistyped earlier) and SkullCandy. I also only have an S3 and my 4th gen iPod touch but I prefer the S3 with the same headphones. My opinion would likely change if I had other IEMs (need to use a wider variety than just 2), I'm not a fan of over the ear headphones too.
Oh okay. I've never owned real nice headphones. I'm getting the Westone 3s as a gift for Christmas. They're 3-driver headphones! They are about $350 for a long time, and since they're making a new model, they're slashing prices. Amazon has them for $179 right now, and these are headphones that were often said to be the best money can buy for under $500 (and can reproduce sounds as well as some high end over the ear cans!). If you've got the money, it's an amazing steal that won't be around long.
I understand the tight budget - I'm in grad school as well. Getting an MS in Mathematics. What are you studying?
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Oh okay. I've never owned real nice headphones. I'm getting the Westone 3s as a gift for Christmas. They're 3-driver headphones! They are about $350 for a long time, and since they're making a new model, they're slashing prices. Amazon has them for $179 right now, and these are headphones that were often said to be the best money can buy for under $500 (and can reproduce sounds as well as some high end over the ear cans!). If you've got the money, it's an amazing steal that won't be around long.
I understand the tight budget - I'm in grad school as well. Getting an MS in Mathematics. What are you studying?
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That does look like a nice deal, definitely post back with your thoughts on them! I just want to know enough information to be able to adjust EQs if I dislike its current state in my music. Just want to recognize what XYZ does as I tune it. I'm not fond of purchasing $200+ buds cuz I don't fully feel I would listen to them enough to warrant the price but I probably do since I listen to music about 1-2 hours a day. I stopped reading that sound quality thread well before I purchased the Klipsch IEM as I started to care more about sound quality over the last six to eight months. They were my first IEM that I've ever purchased over $20 lol
I'm getting an MS in Sport Management. Good luck on your degree, it'll be worth the work!
Damn i thought we has the Wolfson DAC
qualcomm's DAC isn't all that bad though.
My iPhone 4 still sounds better though (stock)
Wolfson DAC FTW!

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