[Q] Rooting nexus 5 first thing after getting it - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I'm getting my nexus 5 soon this week so i wanted to know if it was a good idea to root it first thing after getting it. What is the probability that a receive a defective nexus and then i void my warranty for something that was already not working??

You can unroot it and the number of "defective" N5s is not as high as people here make it seem.
Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!

borrego20 said:
Hi I'm getting my nexus 5 soon this week so i wanted to know if it was a good idea to root it first thing after getting it. What is the probability that a receive a defective nexus and then i void my warranty for something that was already not working??
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Give the phone a look-over when you get it. If anything is wrong, RMA it. If not, unlock the bootloader and root it immediately.
Super simple process. 10 minutes and it's done.

I made it about an hour before I rooted and unlocked. Just long enough to check everything out.
When you do decide to do it, use the instructions given by Chromium_. I tried the tools and had trouble. The fast boot method by chromium is just as easy and almost fool proof.

Thank you you 3, it seems like theres nothing wrong with rooting it first thing after getting it. I was just afraid of getting a nexus with such defect that i would not notice till after some days of usage,

today when I receveid the phone I just open the box, unpeeled from from protectors, checked a little and booted up in fastboot...
unlocked and rooted before the phone was able to reach Google server, maybe I was too hurry but nevermind is a Googlephone: must be rooted
and as Phazmos stated use Chromium_ guide, fast and reliable, toolkit can be used by experienced user cause if something goes wrong you have to know what are you doing and in toolkit usually you don't

From what I've read shouldn't you boot up and take the OTA first seeing as taking it after will cause you to lose root?

What are some good apps you all are using that need root? I wanted an AOSP browser but none seem to be working well at the moment. Other than that I installed greenify (but there's nothing to greenify yet haha), the sixaxis controller app, and titanium backup...
Do any of you use any adblocking services?

AndrasLOHF said:
From what I've read shouldn't you boot up and take the OTA first seeing as taking it after will cause you to lose root?
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I read the same. I took the update then rooted and whatnot.
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UCLAKoolman said:
What are some good apps you all are using that need root? I wanted an AOSP browser but none seem to be working well at the moment. Other than that I installed greenify (but there's nothing to greenify yet haha), the sixaxis controller app, and titanium backup...
Do any of you use any adblocking services?
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ROM toolbox, cpu spy plus, green power for me.
Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!

Cpu spy and green power look awesome. Thank you
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[Q] Stuck with no root, what's next?

I am not the only one on this topic. I have come to a conclusion that my device (Razr maxx HD 9.30.1.XT926) won't be getting any root. Alright, what is next? What sorts of recommendations do you guys have to improve my phone? Faster Google Now response, tips and tricks? Anything to hold off till the unscheduled (at least to the public) 4.4 update.
Thanks!
Honestly, the only advantage root has vs unrooted so far as this phone goes is the complete removal of bloatware vs disabling it all. You can still disable any and all bloatware by holding the app int he app drawer, opening the app info, uninstall any updates if the option is present, then ultimately disable the junk. This will stop from phone resources being used to crapware on your phone, and will also help with the speed the phone, and of rebooting if you need to.
Lacking root, you're unable to utilize something like GravityBox to give little tweaks to your phone (one I'm fond of being the "Clear All" button in the recent apps drawer) or the Xposed Installer. Not the end of the world; GravityBox and Xposed doesn't have much outside of small quality of life tweaks for your phone. You'll live.
You are still able to install APK's from unknown sources. You are still able to use Nova Launcher to replace the disgusting Verizon phone icons (Phone, SMS, Contacts, Camera, etc) with stick KitKat icons. In fact, Nova Launcher can make your home screen and app launcher look and feel like KitKat. It's honestly very close to having KitKat itself.
Google Now is still very strong, even without the "always listening" from the home screen. My phone is rooted, but I have made no changes that would affect or enhance Google Now simply because I haven't felt the need. Mentioned above, disabling a bunch of crapware that Verizon puked onto this phone might have unforeseen performance benefits. Do your best.
Otherwise, I - like you - am eagerly awaiting KitKat to land on our phones. Having run CyanogenMod, XenonHD, BeanStalk, it's blatantly obvious that this phone is more than capable of handling KitKat without stutter. With Motorola opening their eyes about unlocked bootloaders, one can hope that after KitKat, custom ROMs will also be ported to the RAZR without all this stupid bootloader fuss.
Thank you for playing the waiting game with me.
Try out this launcher.
Be sure and choose "just once" when choosing it as home!!
A hit of home will allow the blur home back.
A safe boot will fix if you mess up, btw.
That is until you are sure it works.
Screen shots
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2165979&d=1375681495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2165985&d=1375681521
I actually use Nova Prime. It has really given me some fresh air into my phone. I also love that they make your phone look closer to kit kat.
My main desire for a root is the chance to try out a kit kat ROM, due to the fact that it has such a low RAM requirement.
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FancyPants91 said:
I actually use Nova Prime. It has really given me some fresh air into my phone. I also love that they make your phone look closer to kit kat.
My main desire for a root is the chance to try out a kit kat ROM, due to the fact that it has such a low RAM requirement.
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The 4.4 ROMs require an unlocked bootloader, so root wouldn't really help you out there.
RikRong said:
The 4.4 ROMs require an unlocked bootloader, so root wouldn't really help you out there.
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What he said. You're already in a spot where you cannot root.
You need root, but cannot root.
You need and unlocked bootloader to flash a rom, but you need to root first. Since you're on 9.30, you absolutely cannot root or unlock yet.
FancyPants91 said:
I am not the only one on this topic. I have come to a conclusion that my device (Razr maxx HD 9.30.1.XT926) won't be getting any root. Alright, what is next? What sorts of recommendations do you guys have to improve my phone? Faster Google Now response, tips and tricks? Anything to hold off till the unscheduled (at least to the public) 4.4 update.
Thanks!
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Try using Nova Launcher. Its pretty fast. Also try Power Widgets from play store.
If you like stock one then don't put too many icons and widgets on home screens. You can also try to disable animations in developers options.
If you are using Chrome turn the sync off. I find it to be more responsive that way. Google now can be slow because of search history. Try cleaning up a little bit. :good:
I disabled Google Now since I never need it and it smooths out the phone a bunch. Google Now bogs this phone down. Try it!
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FancyPants91 said:
I am not the only one on this topic. I have come to a conclusion that my device (Razr maxx HD 9.30.1.XT926) won't be getting any root. Alright, what is next? What sorts of recommendations do you guys have to improve my phone? Faster Google Now response, tips and tricks? Anything to hold off till the unscheduled (at least to the public) 4.4 update.
Thanks!
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Guess what! Hell must have frozen over because those with locked devices can now root on the latest OTA.
Go here to reroot your devices -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Happy days for people with locked devices.
iBolski said:
Guess what! Hell must have frozen over because those with locked devices can now root on the latest OTA.
Go here to reroot your devices -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Happy days for people with locked devices.
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This looks promising! People within the thread are noting success. It's a bit iffy since there are no screenshots. but I don't have reason beyond that to doubt this too will work. No harm in trying I feel.
Up until now, I had simply been denying the "Update" popup until 4.4 came around. This sounds like a welcome fix!
I'll try and report results when I get off work later today.
jewbydoo said:
This looks promising! People within the thread are noting success. It's a bit iffy since there are no screenshots. but I don't have reason beyond that to doubt this too will work. No harm in trying I feel.
Up until now, I had simply been denying the "Update" popup until 4.4 came around. This sounds like a welcome fix!
I'll try and report results when I get off work later today.
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Screenshots here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49241975&postcount=3
This amazing. I will definitely be spending my night doing this! Thank you for the heads up!
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jewbydoo said:
This looks promising! People within the thread are noting success. It's a bit iffy since there are no screenshots. but I don't have reason beyond that to doubt this too will work. No harm in trying I feel.
Up until now, I had simply been denying the "Update" popup until 4.4 came around. This sounds like a welcome fix!
I'll try and report results when I get off work later today.
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I can't attest that it works because my phone is unlocked, so I don't have to resort to exploits, but I've ready numerous threads that state it works. It's using an exploit within the Linux Kernel.
Sorry folks, I've been running into a snag.
I tried to apply the 9.30 update, but it doesn't take. Preliminary Googling tells me that because I've already rooted the phone, I need to flash it back to complete stock through RSD Lite or something of the sort. The internet tells me that a simple factory reset doesn't do it.
So I either do flash it back to stock, or I wait (sigh) until 4.4 comes out for the razr hd.
jewbydoo said:
Sorry folks, I've been running into a snag.
I tried to apply the 9.30 update, but it doesn't take. Preliminary Googling tells me that because I've already rooted the phone, I need to flash it back to complete stock through RSD Lite or something of the sort. The internet tells me that a simple factory reset doesn't do it.
So I either do flash it back to stock, or I wait (sigh) until 4.4 comes out for the razr hd.
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You must use voodoo to unroot during the ota process. Then you will not need the new root exploit...
See my stickys for voodoo. You must get SS off your HD too.
aviwdoowks said:
You must use voodoo to unroot during the ota process. Then you will not need the new root exploit...
See my stickys for voodoo. You must get SS off your HD too.
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Thanks for the tip. Mind linking the sticky you're referring to? I'm digging through your posts and I'm not seeing it...
jewbydoo said:
Thanks for the tip. Mind linking the sticky you're referring to? I'm digging through your posts and I'm not seeing it...
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My signature/recovery goodies/ 1/4 down
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jewbydoo said:
Thanks for the tip. Mind linking the sticky you're referring to? I'm digging through your posts and I'm not seeing it...
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You must not be using a phone browser. Tapatalk & the like really are poor! Get Maxthon HD browser, more info in goodies too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
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My signature/recovery goodies/ 1/4 down
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You must not be using a phone browser. Tapatalk & the like really are poor! Get Maxthon HD browser, more info in goodies too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
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Thanks again for the help. I was using my computer actually, just me being blind I guess.
You mentioned that "SS" must not be on my phone. Could you clarify what you meant?
jewbydoo said:
Thanks again for the help. I was using my computer actually, just me being blind I guess.
You mentioned that "SS" must not be on my phone. Could you clarify what you meant?
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Just good guess on my part, never confirmed that it's presence will bork the ota but you would be wise to unenable it reboot & uninstall it.
aviwdoowks said:
Just good guess on my part, never confirmed that it's presence will bork the ota but you would be wise to unenable it reboot & uninstall it.
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I'm asking what "SS" is. SuperSU?

** Check this out!! ** CONFIRMED & WORKING ROOT METHOD!!

You guys HAVE root! AND, it does not even trip KNOX!! *Update* He just fixed the APK so test it out again if you can. *Update* FIXED & WORKING!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
BTW: This is NOT my root method, I am simply informing you of the thread so make sure to thank him over there!
Make sure and read the OP and I would remove Kinguser and switch over to SUPER SU. ( Just my opinion ) He is also working on a Super SU version as well. :good:
Now you guys can come out and play with the T-Mobile & Sprint people! Well, half of the way anyways... :good:
KNOX 0x0
shojus said:
I think you guys may have root! AND, it does not even trip KNOX!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
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Have you given it a whirl yet?
brholt6 said:
Have you given it a whirl yet?
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No, I would have if I wasn't already Knox tripped with my T-Mobile S6... Kinda sucks cause this will be a good thing for Samsung Pay! Also, this new method is going to open up TONS of new devices for root! This guy is brilliant!
Hmmmmm....
My phone is on the list, G920VVRU1AOC3
But, am I brave enough to go for it??
MOS95B said:
Hmmmmm....
My phone is on the list, G920VVRU1AOC3
But, am I brave enough to go for it??
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Of course you are! Come on.... I am sure some more simple method will be developed but until then you would want to follow the directions closely. Still in Beta as well and everything is not 100% but I can guarantee he got it rooted! It's just whether you can write to certain partitions or not.
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Of course you are! Come on.... I am sure some more simple method will be developed but until then you would want to follow the directions closely. Still in Beta as well and everything is not 100% but I can guarantee he got it rooted! It's just whether you can write to certain partitions or not.
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I hope this comes soon for the Edge.
If anyone tries this could you report back on how it goes. I'd be willing to buy a S6 today if this materializes into a true way to root the Verizon s6. I can't tell from the op, but is this root method have wp off? I know someone got root for the turbo a few months ago and it was basically useless.
theycallmerayj said:
If anyone tries this could you report back on how it goes. I'd be willing to buy a S6 today if this materializes into a true way to root the Verizon s6. I can't tell from the op, but is this root method have wp off? I know someone got root for the turbo a few months ago and it was basically useless.
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I've downloaded and installed the APK, but at the moment my phone just shuts off and isn't rooted when I reboot. Gonna keep trying different things and keep an eye on that thread
Doesnt work. I tried on my S6. Just reboots and does nothing.
I can confirm did not work for me phone just reboots but a few people have reported working on vzw s6 this is just in beta phase 1 so hopefully with a update it will become more stable.
This looks promising will be trying this after work today on my vzw s6.
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theycallmerayj said:
If anyone tries this could you report back on how it goes. I'd be willing to buy a S6 today if this materializes into a true way to root the Verizon s6. I can't tell from the op, but is this root method have wp off? I know someone got root for the turbo a few months ago and it was basically useless.
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What this is going to give you (if it works on your firmware version) is JUST root. So you will be able to do certain things but you CANNOT flash custom roms cause that has to do with the bootloader, and that bad boy is LOCKED tight. I'm not saying it won't happen but probably not. Hopefully someone starts developing Safestrap again (for this device). I left Verizon long ago because of their crap with locking down phones but I still thought you guys would like to know the info i found, seeing as it's a given that every Verizon device will make it next to impossible to achieve root. The root method for the Turbo was a different kind of exploit but I am pretty sure that this method will at least allow you to do some of the basic "must have" rooting tweaks. ie. Ad blocker, totally removing bloat, Hotspot mods, etc. Best thing to do is follow him over at the link I posted. Hope u guys get this all figured out and remember, this is just in beta right now, so if you can't get root that does not mean 100% for sure that this won't work 4 you. Like I said, follow the brilliant guy that made this all possible. :good:
VinceOB said:
Doesnt work. I tried on my S6. Just reboots and does nothing.
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atthevoltain said:
I've downloaded and installed the APK, but at the moment my phone just shuts off and isn't rooted when I reboot. Gonna keep trying different things and keep an eye on that thread
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I can confirm did not work for me phone just reboots but a few people have reported working on vzw s6 this is just in beta phase 1 so hopefully with a update it will become more stable.
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I have seen a few Verizon guys post success and my friend just successfully rooted his verizon S6 as well. This exploit literally just came out today but I can tell you that the guy working on this has just made root available for a hell of a lot more devices than just the S6! I have seen you over there @jparasita so I know you are probably getting frustrated but hang in there, I'm sure there is a reason that this is happening to a lot of people. Hopefully something simple! Good luck guys!
shojus said:
I have seen a few Verizon guys post success and my friend just successfully rooted his verizon S6 as well. This exploit literally just came out today but I can tell you that the guy working on this has just made root available for a hell of a lot more devices than just the S6! I have seen you over there @jparasita so I know you are probably getting frustrated but hang in there, I'm sure there is a reason that this is happening to a lot of people. Hopefully something simple! Good luck guys!
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No frustrations I realise that its only in beta phase 1 so its possible with a simple fix it might become more stable. Plus like you said with this exploit you are only gonna be able to do a few limited things until someone comes along and makes something like safestrap. Plus im pretty sure the system will still be write protected. A lot of hurdles to overcome to fully modify this phone. Can you tell me what kernal date youre friend had that was success?
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No frustrations I realise that its only in beta phase 1 so its possible with a simple fix it might become more stable. Plus like you said with this exploit you are only gonna be able to do a few limited things until someone comes along and makes something like safestrap. Plus im pretty sure the system will still be write protected. A lot of hurdles to overcome to fully modify this phone. Can you tell me what kernal date youre friend had that was success?
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By frustration I mean that it's not working... I get SUPER frustrated when I can't get something to work! That's just me though. Lol I am think write protection is most likely the case so who knows? I will ask my buddy here soon as he is coming over after I finish up at work.
Didn't work for me, but hey, it might sooner or later
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What this is going to give you (if it works on your firmware version) is JUST root. So you will be able to do certain things but you CANNOT flash custom roms cause that has to do with the bootloader, and that bad boy is LOCKED tight. I'm not saying it won't happen but probably not. Hopefully someone starts developing Safestrap again (for this device). I left Verizon long ago because of their crap with locking down phones but I still thought you guys would like to know the info i found, seeing as it's a given that every Verizon device will make it next to impossible to achieve root. The root method for the Turbo was a different kind of exploit but I am pretty sure that this method will at least allow you to do some of the basic "must have" rooting tweaks. ie. Ad blocker, totally removing bloat, Hotspot mods, etc. Best thing to do is follow him over at the link I posted. Hope u guys get this all figured out and remember, this is just in beta right now, so if you can't get root that does not mean 100% for sure that this won't work 4 you. Like I said, follow the brilliant guy that made this all possible. :good:
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I'm almost certain mutilsystem will support s6 just give it time.
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I've downloaded and installed the APK, but at the moment my phone just shuts off and isn't rooted when I reboot. Gonna keep trying different things and keep an eye on that thread
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VinceOB said:
Doesnt work. I tried on my S6. Just reboots and does nothing.
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I can confirm did not work for me phone just reboots but a few people have reported working on vzw s6 this is just in beta phase 1 so hopefully with a update it will become more stable.
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Guys! Try it again! He supposedly fixed that bug for your model??? let me know...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3303869&d=1431142784
krazy_smokezalot said:
I'm almost certain mutilsystem will support s6 just give it time.
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I'm thinking there will be some good things coming out of this for the whole community. :highfive: :fingers-crossed:
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Potential Galaxy Note 5 Owner?!

I have a Sony Xperia Z1s and I'm coming up to my 2 year mark and looking to make an upgrade to a new device. I was hoping T-Mobile would carry the Sony Xperia Z5 but it seems they have no plans to carry it or being extremely quiet about it. I'm interested in the Galaxy Note 5 but I'm just concerned about a few things before making my purchase and hoping some Note 5 owners could help.
1. Does the Galaxy Note 5 have poor RAM management issues especially when multitasking after 5 or 6 apps are opened some will close in the background and have to be restarted over?
2. Can the T-Mobile Note 5 Variant be rooted (unlocked bootloader) without any issues?
3. How would you rate the battery life?
4. Should I wait for the holidays for some new promotions?
Well from my take
1. Yes TouchWiz has aggressive ram management, so.app reload happens. But if you are comfortable with rooting and playing with script, there is a tweak that was given how to fix the aggressive ram management or make it better I should say.
2 . Yes it can be rooted I believe the bootloader can be unlocked. Of course Knox will be tripped voiding you warranty.
3. I say it's great for me, average about 5-6hrs of screen on time. It varies from person to person.
4. That's a personal choice you will have to make. Holiday seasons do come with some.Great deals but who knows what will be this year's deals.
Sent from my White Note 5 Monster
1. The ram preformance is great. It rarely lags and is very fast. App reloads do happen. I tested out Instagram, Playstore, Messages, Phone, Facebook, and a couple more. I left them running for a bit while I played a game and went back to the exact same spot.
2. Root is very simple. It's pretty much 1 click of a button and then waiting 5 minutes.
3. Battery life depends on how often you use it. Im in school and use my phone a good amount. I usually get out at 2:30 with 60ish% and then at the end of the day Im left with aroung 20-30%. That counts watching youtube videos everyday, on snapchat, instagram, playing a couple games, ect. (I do have a stock deodexed rom though)
4. Depends on your budget. T-Mobile has recently came out with some great promotions lately and who knows if they will with the note 5 anytime soon.
bsanto9 said:
Well from my take
1. Yes TouchWiz has aggressive ram management, so.app reload happens. But if you are comfortable with rooting and playing with script, there is a tweak that was given how to fix the aggressive ram management or make it better I should say.
2 . Yes it can be rooted I believe the bootloader can be unlocked. Of course Knox will be tripped voiding you warranty.
3. I say it's great for me, average about 5-6hrs of screen on time. It varies from person to person.
4. That's a personal choice you will have to make. Holiday seasons do come with some.Great deals but who knows what will be this year's deals.
Sent from my White Note 5 Monster
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SpencerA99 said:
1. The ram preformance is great. It rarely lags and is very fast. App reloads do happen. I tested out Instagram, Playstore, Messages, Phone, Facebook, and a couple more. I left them running for a bit while I played a game and went back to the exact same spot.
2. Root is very simple. It's pretty much 1 click of a button and then waiting 5 minutes.
3. Battery life depends on how often you use it. Im in school and use my phone a good amount. I usually get out at 2:30 with 60ish% and then at the end of the day Im left with aroung 20-30%. That counts watching youtube videos everyday, on snapchat, instagram, playing a couple games, ect. (I do have a stock deodexed rom though)
4. Depends on your budget. T-Mobile has recently came out with some great promotions lately and who knows if they will with the note 5 anytime soon.
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Thanks for the input guys appreciate it! Those were my biggest concerns and I think I may wait till atleast Black Friday to see if they have any deals for the Note 5.
So only when you unlock bootlader tripping knox will void the warranty not from just rooting?
From my understanding yes
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If you follow the guides on here as to get root, you will trip knox. I'm not sure about the bootloader, but if you install a custom recovery it's tripped. Basically in order to flash anything, except Samsung ROMs using Odin, you'll trip it. I wonder if there even is a root-injected stock kernel that could flash in Odin? I don't think there is.
But, the Note5 is a beast stock. I had the Z1s, and the Z2. Besides just being older, I'm really a fan of the Note5. I don't think you'd miss your rooted Z1s at all with a new Note in your hands.
Just get one. Best phone out there.
Android_Monsters said:
Just get one. Best phone out there.
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No, yes, good, no.
farfromovin said:
If you follow the guides on here as to get root, you will trip knox. I'm not sure about the bootloader, but if you install a custom recovery it's tripped. Basically in order to flash anything, except Samsung ROMs using Odin, you'll trip it. I wonder if there even is a root-injected stock kernel that could flash in Odin? I don't think there is.
But, the Note5 is a beast stock. I had the Z1s, and the Z2. Besides just being older, I'm really a fan of the Note5. I don't think you'd miss your rooted Z1s at all with a new Note in your hands.
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Android_Monsters said:
Just get one. Best phone out there.
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No, yes, good, no.
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Ok thats alittle disappointing was looking forward to being able to root it and not void the warranty on a $700 smartphone. Yeah I played with one in the T-Mobile store its definitely a top notch phone I'm definitely going to get it once the Holiday's come around.
You're going 2 love it.
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You're going 2 love it. Best phone I ever had.
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You're going 2 love it.
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You're going 2 love it. Best phone I ever had.
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I'm dying to get it, I can't wait!!!
So once you trip Knox it is irreversible? I would like to keep my warranty for as long as possible just in case something goes wrong with the phone. If its irreversible then I might have to wait a few months before rooting it just to be safe.
I'm looking at buying this phone for my wife's Christmas present. To my understanding it ships with an unlocked bootloader. ... My main concern is using it on straight talk.
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For what it's worth, I've never heard of T-Mobile checking knox for a warranty exchange. I've exchanged with knox tripped myself as well as upgraded through jump with no issues. That's not to say you'll have the same experience though. As for app reloads, I notice it less on the note 5 than I did on my S6 edge.
I always send my phones in a soft bricked state on purpose. Never had an issue.
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I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
jcnbama said:
I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
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There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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Yep
Yep... And this is the first phone I tried to go without Titanium Backup... How do people live like this?!?! Lol... I guess we'll see.... What I'd like to see is the manufacturers just do stuff like that on their own.....
Samsung, the creators of multi-window, have a restrictive list too. I never bypassed it though. Kind of annoying. They've had it for years too.
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Might try once I get home what app you suggest?
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But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Hooooly crap that's alot of work to have something as simple as dual window support. What happens when the app updates? Does that change anything?
Again this just goes back to manufacturers just taking care of their customer base. This should be a non-issue.... Maybe I'll fool around with this at some point but honestly just rooting will probably be easier and provide more overall benefits once it is accomplished (which I would imagine would be sooner rather than later.) I'm always willing to donate for developers hard work. Definitely worth it.
Thanks for sharing this friend!
It's not as bad as it looks tbh. Once you become familiar it's a fairly quick process.
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
Triavius said:
I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
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Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
jcnbama said:
Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
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Hah, I've got no idea honestly. That reddit thread that was posted isn't too old; I haven't had any of the apps I messed with updated yet.
Hi,everybody .I try to sign FM Cube to dual window and it is work great but when I try to do the same with Waze it show me error when I try to build apk back.
Can anybody help me with that ? And also I did a Google Map but can not install on my phone because the original one is a system app.

Flash this Note 5 or keep it stock?

So I always root every single phone I get days into getting it. It has been different with this one. I want to root it so badly but I really want to use Samsung Pay. Chase Bank JUST got support, even though I don't have Chase, my girlfriend does so I can use her card from my phone lol.
I haven't been able to find anything indicating KNOX won't be tripped by ANY root method or even being reversed. If I could reset the KNOX counter then I will root away, but there isn't anyway to do that.
I don't even know what I'm asking, any input? Thanks folks!
Edit: It's a T-Mobile Note 5 SM-N920T
You will probably get better help if you had a moderator move this to the T-mobile Q and A threads.
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You will probably get better help if you had a moderator move this to the T-mobile Q and A threads.
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Thanks, I'm not on much.
Squarez said:
I haven't been able to find anything indicating KNOX won't be tripped by ANY root method or even being reversed. If I could reset the KNOX counter then I will root away, but there isn't anyway to do that.
Edit: It's a T-Mobile Note 5 SM-N920T
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Nope - not going to happen. Rooting the Note 5 trips the Knox flag and it cannot be reset. Pingpong root (which didn't trip Knox) was killed off before the Note 5. If you root there will be no Samsung Pay (and the like), probably ever.
That said I rooted - as you can see from my signature I also have an iPhone, which I use for Apple Pay, so no worries!!!!
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apd said:
Nope - not going to happen. Rooting the Note 5 trips the Knox flag and it cannot be reset. Pingpong root (which didn't trip Knox) was killed off before the Note 5. If you root there will be no Samsung Pay (and the like), probably ever.
That said I rooted - as you can see from my signature I also have an iPhone, which I use for Apple Pay, so no worries!!!!
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I got a chance to use Samsung Pay with my girlfriends Chase card today and I'm not impressed. I waited all this time for nothing. Oh well, time to root. Any suggestions on method and ROM?
Root - no strong feelings!
Rom @drketan L6 - love it!!! And a responsive developer - fabulous!!!
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lol.
You should really root. Opens up so many possibilities. Ad blocking, titanium backup, cache cleaning, the list goes on and on.
Not to mention the roms.
I'm on Tek's latest rom and it's sooo much better than stock.
Just borrow her chase card.
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Here's how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187422
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This is the rom I'm running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3201869
I am in the same situation. Not asking if I should root or not but haven't decided for myself. Been with android since 08 and have rooted every phone I've had, Knox is a different animal all together and, tho I like the note I know I won't be with it for too terribly long. I think tripping Knox will hurt the resale...I remember why I didn't care for Samsung all to well now.
Don't really see how tripping Knox effects resale since most buyers wouldn't know how to check. Just root. Life's too short.
Yeah, come to the dark side. Root for all the people on the other carriers with locked bootloaders.
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Yeah, come to the dark side. Root for all the people on the other carriers with locked bootloaders.
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Amen. I myself am a recovering AT&T victim and I was so bummed when I learned they lock the bootloaders. That's one of the main reasons I switched to T-Mobile
On topic: Root it. Samsung pay is sorta cool, but sacrificing all the features you get with root for one sorta cool feature doesn't add up to me.
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
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I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
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correct my fellow xda member. With the xml that shuts down so many apps and the ability to change my fonts and finally nova launcher. With all this in place and a 1+ that I have rooted and running marshmallow life is grand. To those that say you are not impressed with the ability to not carry you cards with you and simply touch and pay you make no sense. Also why root a Samsung phone which can be used at 95% of the places you go and keep an Apple because of Apple Pay? If there is Apple Pay then there is Android Pay and Samsung gives you two options.
Sorry just my opinion on things but I root to remove bloat and increase battery life. Of course some options are great but I have found alternatives which help me cope. First phone since winmo days that I have not touched per se
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Don't really see how tripping Knox effects resale since most buyers wouldn't know how to check. Just root. Life's too short.
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Guess it's honesty. I wouldn't sell something without disclosing pertinent information. It's not this short life I am worried over.
But, if you buy a used phone you expect the first owner to have used it. It's like saying you won't listen to music on it cause you might hurt the speakers.
I'm glad you're happy being not rooted. The note 5 is awesome stock.
As for me, I got mine the day they were released and was rooted the second I got to my cpu.
I've no regrets. I had to do an exchange. They gave me a new one no questions asked.
Knox isn't really the big deal people think it is.
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I'm religious, too. Just hate the bloatware that comes with the stock rom, need my root apps, and love me some roms.
To each their own.
Trust me. I work at a cell phone store. You won't have any trouble selling your note 5 when you want to part with it.
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I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
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Adguard?
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Here's the link for adguard:
https://m.adguard.com/en/welcome.html
Looks like they are not on the playstore.
TarquinnBlackwood said:
But, if you buy a used phone you expect the first owner to have used it. It's like saying you won't listen to music on it cause you might hurt the speakers.
I'm glad you're happy being not rooted. The note 5 is awesome stock.
As for me, I got mine the day they were released and was rooted the second I got to my cpu.
I've no regrets. I had to do an exchange. They gave me a new one no questions asked.
Knox isn't really the big deal people think it is.
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I'm religious, too. Just hate the bloatware that comes with the stock rom, need my root apps, and love me some roms.
To each their own.
Trust me. I work at a cell phone store. You won't have any trouble selling your note 5 when you want to part with it.
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You are right, to each their own. I have been on androids since the g1 pre order October of 08, rooted all my phone's and compiled cyan or AOSP for most of them. This is the first phone I have had that by rooting you actually lose something useful besides warranty. I agree, root is better but with the ability to still block ads and literally turn off services it's not as important to me as it once was. Your music analogy is flawed tho, listening to music should in no way void your warranty or remove a feature of the phone. Odds are, in an exchange situation they probably wouldn't even check, they could tho.
You are right, most people wouldn't know how to check for Knox but those same people probably know how to use pay, and an ever increasing chance they will want to.
Hard to say this after hating touchwiz for so long but you are right again, after a bit of tweaking the note isn't all thar bad stock, if I decide to keep the phone for a length of time, I will root it depending on software updates etc but that's also an added feature with android, it's your choice. I'll take the perceived hit on selling it with full disclosure.
Both of you have valid points.
I rooted because I hate, Hate, HATE FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND WHAT'S APP AND ALL THAT OTHER BULLSTUFF!!! Sorry got intense there. Bloat does nothing but steal, and for a device that has to be so "secure," they are sure keen on securing the wrong things.
I really do hope no information such as credit card info is being shared by the Bloat apps. Yes they say Samsung pay is secure.....*1 year later* Have you or anyone you know used Samsung Pay?!
Just saying, you never know. I rather use my card itself anyways. No one has successfully stolen it yet. Weird thing too though, as I'm getting older; and I'm 29, I've been using cash a lot more often instead of swiping my card.
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