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[Q] Rooting...Please Don't Hate Me For Asking But I'm Torn

Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?

antny said:
shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!

No.
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Absolutely not.

bhags8 said:
No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha

bhags8 said:
No.
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el_smurfo said:
Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?

Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.

el_smurfo said:
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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antny said:
Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.

el_smurfo said:
Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?

You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Doughh said:
Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.

el_smurfo said:
Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--

rugmankc said:
To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)

Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--

rugmankc said:
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.

yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--

I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.

CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--

Verizon OTA rolling out

Saw on AC that it was rolling out to T-Mo and Sprint users so I checked 2 hours ago and had nothing. I just checked again and it is available. From what I read it shouldn't break root. I'm updating now and will report back.

whtciv2k said:
Saw on AC that it was rolling out to T-Mo and Sprint users so I checked 2 hours ago and had nothing. I just checked again and it is available. From what I read it shouldn't break root. I'm updating now and will report back.
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How'd it go? I can't find a changelog.

whtciv2k said:
Saw on AC that it was rolling out to T-Mo and Sprint users so I checked 2 hours ago and had nothing. I just checked again and it is available. From what I read it shouldn't break root. I'm updating now and will report back.
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We probably won't see it for atleast another month the way Verizon is with their updates. Either way I will avoid it, I value root too much.

Update PDF to see changelog and what was updated/improved/ruined. However you want to look at it. Seems like very minor changes from which not many people will benefit.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/H5329-Samsung-Galaxy5-SU1.pdf

landshark68 said:
Update PDF to see changelog and what was updated/improved/ruined. However you want to look at it. Seems like very minor changes from which not many people will benefit.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/H5329-Samsung-Galaxy5-SU1.pdf
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Wow they are actually being on time with a update! There has got to be a catch.

Misterxtc said:
Wow they are actually being on time with a update! There has got to be a catch.
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Other than patching up the vulnerability towelroot is exploiting, I'm not sure what else they have up their sleeves.

landshark68 said:
Other than patching up the vulnerability towelroot is exploiting, I'm not sure what else they have up their sleeves.
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I'll skip it for now, there is nothing for me in there. I don't use any of the apps other than contacts and that's working fine. I'll wait and see if anyone looses root with it.

I am inclined to agree XTC. I am also not going to be putting the OTA updater .apk back on my device. No way.

Misterxtc said:
I'll skip it for now, there is nothing for me in there. I don't use any of the apps other than contacts and that's working fine. I'll wait and see if anyone looses root with it.
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Yeaaaaaaaa. So the update is failing on my device haha. I'll take it as a sign. I don't really care for it much anyway.

Sounds about right. They either wait too long, or shoot it off before its ready. hahaha

Anyone know why my update may be failing though? update failure code 402. I have my phone rooted/debloated. I don't think that should make the update fail though.

To resolve, try plugging the Phone up to a PC and install the Verizon Updater software that is on the Phone's flash drive..(it is one of the disks that auto pops up when you connect the phone).

kprice8 said:
To resolve, try plugging the Phone up to a PC and install the Verizon Updater software that is on the Phone's flash drive..(it is one of the disks that auto pops up when you connect the phone).
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That's actually something I just wanted to try for ishts and giggles. I'll let you know how it goes. how you doing today price? lol. :good:

whtciv2k said:
That's actually something I just wanted to try for ****s and giggles. I'll let you know how it goes. how you doing today price? lol. :good:
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Ehhh. :cyclops: :silly: lol :good: :good: :good:
My work day is almost over, then 1 more work day, with no client at my facility. It's a good end to today, and a good beginning to the weekend!

kprice8 said:
Ehhh. :cyclops: :silly: lol :good: :good: :good:
My work day is almost over, then 1 more work day, with no client at my facility. It's a good end to today, and a good beginning to the weekend!
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Hah. I feel you. It's been a good summer thus far . My windows 8.1 box isn't letting me run the Verizon upgrade assistant. I'm going to try from a 7 PC

whtciv2k said:
Hah. I feel you. It's been a good summer thus far . My windows 8.1 box isn't letting me run the Verizon upgrade assistant. I'm going to try from a 7 PC
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You trying to install it on a V-Box? lolwut? :silly:

whtciv2k said:
Anyone know why my update may be failing though? update failure code 402. I have my phone rooted/debloated. I don't think that should make the update fail though.
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It's because you don't have a stock filesystem.

Not the Performance Improving Update!
I thought it was related to this update but apparently it is not.
The Samsung Galaxy S5 is now receiving a performance-improving firmware update

kprice8 said:
You trying to install it on a V-Box? lolwut? :silly:
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haha nah. I have linux on my vbox. I have other workstations at work with windows 7 on 'em. I can't get it to open. I wonder if it is because we are blocking outbound ports with ACL's and maybe the software needs access to something to launch. I'll try off of a public Wifi as that's wide open. That's the only similarity between the windows7 and 8.1 machines.
EDIT: yup, it requires port 443 to be open (which it is) but it is also passing through our content gateway proxy. I believe it was flagging it as some malicious. Luckily, I know it's not malicious and I am the systems admin so I was able to bypass

kprice8 said:
You trying to install it on a V-Box? lolwut? :silly:
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Doh, upgrade assistant isn't showing the upgrade yet. Oh well, like I said, not too pressed for it haha.

Email the President of Samsung

As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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42freelancer said:
As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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Samsung gained too much market share and isn't trying to applease the minority. They did this with the s6 sd card slot removal and sales drop but didn't learned their lesson. Money talks, do but the next samsung device and let them know why.
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I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter

BR7fan said:
I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter
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I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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42freelancer said:
I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here

rtoledo2002 said:
Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here
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You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9

Well if everyone has given up on the Qualcomm version of the S7, then there is no need for this thread. I've seen quite a bit of activity in the Exynos variant threads. Has anyone checked to see if tmobile can be run on it? I'd fork out the cash for one if it were a smart move.
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BR7fan said:
You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9
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thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again

S-off means literally security off which means your bootloader is unlocked.
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rtoledo2002 said:
thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again
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It'll allow you to install updated firmware for your phone

F Samsung, last one. I'm butt hurt, to the level of stiches.
sent from my bootloader locked $700 SM-G930T.

I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.

AceDaMack said:
Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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Source?

AceDaMack said:
Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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I'd like a source as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.

AceDaMack said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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42freelancer said:
Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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This also looks promising.
https://mobile.twitter.com/laginimaineb/status/737051964857561093

dogswind said:
I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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I just gave that phone back. Can't see the screen with sunglasses on unless it's sideways. The flow of everything didn't make any sense to me and I didn't find the camera halfway special. Just my opinion andexperience. I had the phone 2 days before giving it back.
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42freelancer said:
Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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We need a good development to test this out plz, thanx in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page35

root access to S8 or S8+

does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access

Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).

waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm

yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.

Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader

geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.

Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?

I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait

The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.

Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…

Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.

The Phone Company said:
What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.

Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.

bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
Sent from my LG-LS997 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

No its not unfortunately

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No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

kingdazy said:
Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.