so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.
clorbag said:
so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.
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Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!
I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.
So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.
It's the same reason why you don't solely judge a football team by total yards. There's much more to the story.
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yeah i thought they were odd. i had phones that were powerful that didnt score well. and phones with less power scoring insane. its really for bragging rights among friends. but its something i seem to use every time i get a new phone. that also explains why some stock roms making better scores then some of the better custom ones.
God u ppl it's android 4.4 that's why apps need to be updated for android 4.4.
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I don't know why this still has to be said every time a new phone is released, but here we go... Benchmark scores mean absolutely NOTHING in real world usability/performance. Stop worrying about it and enjoy your phone (whenever you get it).
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Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!
I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.
So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.
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Actually the same investigators who have brought the benchmark goosing issues to light have already said the neither Motorola nor Apple does this. So some companies benchmarked still hold true.
even if they mean nothing i was curious why the nexus scored lower to comparable phones. so chill man.
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Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!
I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.
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According to Anandtech the performance gain of the "optimizations" is about 5%. So, not much.
And about Apple, what they do is optimize their software for specific benchmarks. Even worse IMO.
He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.
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Reminds me of The Kardashians...lots of fake drama, ultimately meaning nothing.
WHO CARES! Yes, I agree that it shouldn't be benchmarking so low with the same processor as the note 3 and g2, but in real world use, this thing probably flies like the Nexus 4.
I haven't actually used the device, so I actually have no clue if it's fast or not, but according to all the reviews and hands on's, it's fast.
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Reminds me of The Kardashians...lots of fake drama, ultimately meaning nothing.
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lol
stelv said:
He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.
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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
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Completely agree. :good:
Benchmarks are so misunderstood.
Benchmarks won't tell ya how smooth a device will be, at least with hardware within a year or 2 of each other. And that's simply cuz modern hardware will run most any semi well coded os smoothly.
Benchmarks will give ya a real good idea how long a device will take to zip or unzip files, or recode or edit that hd video you just took, or run that 3d intensive game, and many others things.
So ya see, benchmarks can be meaningless, and can be most informative. Depends on what your talking about, and the trolls never say what they are taking about. Merrily we troll along ......... troll along ......... troll along .......
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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
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Doesn't matter to me. Real world performance is all I need. They shouldn't be low though if the g2 is getting 1,000s of points higher. I am sure everything will be fine though when I get mine and test it out.
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He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.
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But it was the Same with the Nexus 4. the Xperia Z blew it away even with same specs. Which is more evidence that benchmarks are useless.
One thing I can't help but wonder is how much would a iPhone score with a snapdragon 800
some of you are taking this out of context and making it more then it needs to be. all i want to know is why its not scoring as high as expected or to comparable devices. i don't care if benchmark tests mean anything or not.
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some of you are taking this out of context and making it more then it needs to be. all i want to know is why its not scoring as high as expected or to comparable devices. i don't care if benchmark tests mean anything or not.
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so far we can only guess that it might not be optimized for 4.4
Most synthetic benchmarks are useless and misleading. The only ones I pay attention to are ones based on real game engines like Epic Citadel and Anomaly 2. Can anyone share benchmark results for these two at highest settings?
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Here the results of my i9103 benchmarks with:
quadrant
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err...what do you want us do with these stats?
overclock to 1.3Ghz?
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err...what do you want us do with these stats?
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For what we do Benchmarks?
To look at them.
Why this is called S2? It sits perfectly between S and S2 specs wise.
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For what we do Benchmarks?
To look at them.
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benchmarks are a crap waste of time - they dont give a true reflection (did you run each one 4-5 times before screenshotting? - thats about the closest you will get to a relevant score)
And you have posted screenshots for a i9103...this forum is for the i9100...so, what are you expecting to gain with this thread?
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Why this is called S2? It sits perfectly between S and S2 specs wise.
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Did you look at the benchmark?
It is much much faster then S. And even faster then S2.
That's because you over clocked it, If I did the same with my S2 yours wouldn't stand a chance.
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So what? No oc and CM7, benchmark is just ****
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That's because you over clocked it, If I did the same with my S2 yours wouldn't stand a chance.
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Not true. In games and in particular in games optimized for Tegra II (those from www.tegrazone.com) the i9103 is faster then SII also without overclock.
Dude why do you keep posting it in S II thread? Are you so naive and think that you're gonna impress anybody here? I also own i9103, but we've got no chance in benchmarks against them.
First of all they have custom roms which affects benchmark score pretty much. For us slower stock is everything we can get. We can compete only in terms of gaming. Otherwise sorry we're slower. There's no need for childish competition.
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Dude why do you keep posting it in S II thread?
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In the benchmark it is compared to i9100 so to post it here is appropriate.
Do we have a i9103 forum? No.
To post a benchmark is not childish.
"For us slower stock is everything we can get." WTF are you writing? The fact that we do not have custom ROMs yet does not mean we will not get them in the future. Market presentation of the Galaxy R in Germany was this week! We are much newer.
Tegra 2 is already known to be slower than exynos.......benchmarks give an idea but not always/rarely true real world performance.
Your games are optimized but exynos still runs them pretty flawlessly.
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In the benchmark it is compared to i9100 so to post it here is appropriate.
Do we have a i9103 forum? No.
To post a benchmark is not childish.
"For us slower stock is everything we can get." WTF are you writing? The fact that we do not have custom ROMs yet does not mean we will not get them in the future. Market presentation of the Galaxy R in Germany was this week! We are much newer.
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OMG dude chill out and read between the lines, I meant that sgs2 has everything right now while we just have stock roms. That's why all benchmarks have no sense right now. Sgs2 has custom roms, kernels originally faster processor, while the one oc kernel is everything we've got now. See the difference? Be less emotional and more rational. It was really stupid to interprete my post that we won't ever get any aftermarket development, seriously.
And I'm sorry about little too offensive form, I didn't mean to offend you.
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legion1911 said:
In the benchmark it is compared to i9100 so to post it here is appropriate.
Do we have a i9103 forum? No.
To post a benchmark is not childish.
"For us slower stock is everything we can get." WTF are you writing? The fact that we do not have custom ROMs yet does not mean we will not get them in the future. Market presentation of the Galaxy R in Germany was this week! We are much newer.
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Run a cf bench and linpack.
And you'll see who is faster.
Also, your score is low at antutu. 8050 here.
Run a nenamark 2 bench too.
Caps at 60 fps here.
Mali 400 is a way more powerful than Tegra 2. You'll see it by yourself.
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Yes, but you gotta remember that SGR's processor is originally 1 ghz, while SGS2 is equipped with 1,2 ghz (or even 1,5 without OC - correct me if I'm wrong) processor. Thus we need to use oc kernel (set cpu least to 1,2 mhz) to start a fair competition.
When I tested 1,2 ghz on CF bench I got slightly better results that sgs2.
Hold on to your horses tegra boys.Your CPU might appear faster in *some* benchmarks because it's built with a 40nm die as opposed to our 45nm die in the Exynos.That is good and all and you can brag about it,but the Tegra 2 is missing on something really crucial.NEON instructions.And NEON does make a difference.So sorry,but comparing the I9100 to the I9103 is unfair for you.We have the upper hand,live with it.
Also,chech Anandtech's review of the SGS2.The Mali MP-400 beats the Tegra 2's CPU by leaps and bounds in clock for clock performance.You have games optimized for your platform?Right...Check them running on the Mali.There is where the games show their potential.
Again sorry,but no,the Tegra is in no perceivable way better than the Exynos.
Thank you for informative post. I'm truly aware that Exynos is supreme in this comparison and I do not argue about that. I don't see point for competition, and that's what I meant, when I call it "childish". I didn't mean anything personal, but I knew it would end up like that "we against them" "tegra boys against Exynos boys" which I do consider totally unnecessary. There's no competition, it's nonsense. Our chipsets are absolute world's top products and that's all. Exynos has overall better performance. I'm ok about that, because tegra2 is still nothing to be ashamed.
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Thank you for informative post. I'm truly aware that Exynos is supreme in this comparison and I do not argue about that. I don't see point for competition, and that's what I meant, when I call it "childish". I didn't mean anything personal, but I knew it would end up like that "we against them" "tegra boys against Exynos boys" which I do consider totally unnecessary. There's no competition, it's nonsense. Our chipsets are absolute world's top products and that's all. Exynos has overall better performance. I'm ok about that, because tegra2 is still nothing to be ashamed.
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Chill out dude,it wasn't meant for you.Nor do I want to start some "we against them" kind of bull****.It was just a direct answer to the guy who came to our forums to bully us.
The Tegra 2 is one hell of a chipset,no one can doubt that.But better things have come out and it's past its prime,as Exynos will be in a few months time.It has its flaws,it's older.End of story.I just don't want some pricks to act so offensively when they can't actually.Plus,we shouldn't get all emotional-they are just gadgets after all.
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Chill out dude,it wasn't meant for you.Nor do I want to start some "we against them" kind of bull****.It was just a direct answer to the guy who came to our forums to bully us.
The Tegra 2 is one hell of a chipset,no one can doubt that.But better things have come out and it's past its prime,as Exynos will be in a few months time.It has its flaws,it's older.End of story.I just don't want some pricks to act so offensively when they can't actually.Plus,we shouldn't get all emotional-they are just gadgets after all.
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Dude I'm chilled I didn't take your post offensive. No problem at all (I referred to another user's comment to be honest. My bad, I should have mark it better.) Seriously I found your post worth to read, and I completely agree with you about getting too emotional and so on. That's why I pressed "thanks" (due to these technical infos I was unaware of before.)
Cheers
I purchased an unlock atrix 2 to use in my country and i'm having second thoughts. I'm coming from a berry storm so to me its a major upgrade. Reviews are sayin its a low budget phone n cant compete with top phones what are you guys opinion on this. And apart from the 1.2 ghz processor on the Gs2 how does the atrix compare with software features and available widgets.
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I purchased an unlock atrix 2 to use in my country and i'm having second thoughts. I'm coming from a berry storm so to me its a major upgrade. Reviews are sayin its a low budget phone n cant compete with top phones what are you guys opinion on this. And apart from the 1.2 ghz processor on the Gs2 how does the atrix compare with software features and available widgets.
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Tons of threads on this. The phone is amazing, competes extremely well with every high end phone out in benchmarks and functionality. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Calundle said:
Tons of threads on this. The phone is amazing, competes extremely well with every high end phone out in benchmarks and functionality. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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I agree. I came from the nexus s and this phone just flies! Tons of features and pretty good on battery life.
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Calundle said:
Tons of threads on this. The phone is amazing, competes extremely well with every high end phone out in benchmarks and functionality. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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I honestly wouldn't really agree with the benchmark aspect.
Quadrant:
Atrix 2= 2409
Skyrocket= 3075
Antutu:
Atrix 2= 5177 (unusually high for what Ive pulled before, typically it is around 3500's)
Skyrocket=6477 (beating out the galaxy nexus and only being topped byt the transformer prime quad core)
Both phones were cache cleared, app optimized, maxed stock cpu (atrix 1ghz, skyrocket 1.5, the sky can go to 1.9 but the benchmarks put it into boot loop at that speed) Both are running samung 32gb micros, and screen brightness maxed
One area that the Atrix 2 did excell in was hspa+ data speeds. Same location, the atrix would pull 12+mbps where the Skyrocket would pull around 8-9mbps. Kind of a tradeoff though because when the skyrocket hits LTE Im doing 50+mbps. The atrix is more of a development/ webtop machine as I dont pay for the phone or service (thanks att) and the sky is my daily. I was actually pleasantly surprised at the atrix2 screen as Im not a huge fan of moto screens. Overall I would say it is more mid level than high end. It is sometimes laggy and glitchy but Im sure as soon as the bootloader is unlocked and work really gets done on it, things will turn around.
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So apart from the benchmarks would u say the Atrix 2 can do the same things that the gs2 r nexus can do...imma noob n this will be my 1st android
I believe this phone is right on the level with the other high end phones on the market now. Performance wise it is pretty quick, build quality is near the top, screen is a pleasant surprise.
One thing you should really be aware of when comparing this phone solely on benchmark tests. The Atrix 2 has higher resolution than a lot of phones it is being compared to. This is somewhat of an artificial disadvantage, since this only really hurts the phone's performance on the benchmarks, and not in the real world. Also understand that this phone is constantly compared to phones with overclocked processors, of course those phones will outperform the Atrix 2.
The Atrix, in my opinion is a miss marketed high end device. True, it is not the absolute best phone on the market, but the actual gap between the best phones and the Atrix 2 is very narrow. This phone is every bit as capable as any high end phone on the market, and at half the price.
So no one here would trade for an LG Thrill? I've about had it with the memory bugs on this phone and apps disappearing.
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So apart from the benchmarks would u say the Atrix 2 can do the same things that the gs2 r nexus can do...imma noob n this will be my 1st android
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I think you would be perfectly happy with the atrix2. I work for Best Buy Mobile and I have a lot of phones pass through my hands (I personally get a new one every month or two) so I can be kind of biased towards super smart phones. For the price ($49 from bbym) it is an amazing phone. Its quick and capable of most things the sgs2 and nexus can do (sans ics right now). I dont hesitate to recommend it to people at all for the price. If it were 150+ I would probably not sell many because thats going into sgs2 territory and in my eyes the sgs2 line does have better phones, but at 150-200 dollar difference.
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I believe this phone is right on the level with the other high end phones on the market now. Performance wise it is pretty quick, build quality is near the top, screen is a pleasant surprise.
One thing you should really be aware of when comparing this phone solely on benchmark tests. The Atrix 2 has higher resolution than a lot of phones it is being compared to. This is somewhat of an artificial disadvantage, since this only really hurts the phone's performance on the benchmarks, and not in the real world. Also understand that this phone is constantly compared to phones with overclocked processors, of course those phones will outperform the Atrix 2.
The Atrix, in my opinion is a miss marketed high end device. True, it is not the absolute best phone on the market, but the actual gap between the best phones and the Atrix 2 is very narrow. This phone is every bit as capable as any high end phone on the market, and at half the price.
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I posted my personal benchmark scores because I know that is what a lot of people want to see. Many people like opinions but will really make decisions based on real data. And yes you're completely right that there are some things limiting the atrix2's scores while not impacting real life performance. The atrix 2's release was right around when the sgs2 came out and completely got overshadowed. We didn't sell a single one for two weeks after launch. Only now when the atrix1 is free and the 2 is only 50 more are people really getting interested. I can honestly say though that the atrix2 does not perform as well as my skyrocket but its hard to really take those as comparisons. The faster clocked processor and much better graphics chip give the sgs2 line a more fluid user feel which does impact my opinion a lot. The atrix sometimes gets twitchy. I am excited to see some developement on the ROM from once the bootloader gets unlocked. I would love a stripped stock rom and OC/UV kernel. Or a nice vanilla ICS port. I hav been playing with the gnex for about 5 days now at work and it is really nice. Unfortunately 4.0 market would not allow me to run benchmarks? Idk how the gnex's score is in antutu then
Great reviews for the Atrix 2. Aesthetically, the phone looks good too. But we still can't ignore the fact that apps on the Atrix 2 will randomly delete itself whenever it pleases - possibly the only drawback on this beautiful device.
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I've about had it with the memory bugs on this phone and apps disappearing.
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But we still can't ignore the fact that apps on the Atrix 2 will randomly delete itself whenever it pleases - possibly the only drawback on this beautiful device.
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Most of the problems with the apps have been discussed in details and can be fixed. Make sure you have NO apps installed on the sd card and some class 10 cards dont play well with this phone. Notice I said some, not all. Making sure the card is properly formatted will also save you some headache. Now am I saying you should have to do this, No I'm not, especially with a new phone. But there are working workarounds to address the problems if you take the time to do them.
For the price you WILL not beat this phone and it will hold its own with the higher priced phones. Once we get some custom stuff for it, things will truly be different and in a good way.
I'm probably going to jinx myself for saying this but I haven't had any apps go missing and I have had the phone for 31 days
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I'm probably going to jinx myself for saying this but I haven't had any apps go missing and I have had the phone for 31 days
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Same here. Screen and speaker quality are top notch as well.
Thank you guys
Thanks for ya'll feedback I live in the caribbean where Blackberry's run the show...Been eyeing Android Since the 1st Atrix...N coming from a bb storm n torch I kno I wont be disappointed...Jus hope its worth the $389 I coughed up for it....Btw can ya'll tell me what apps i will be interested in especially a weather app with a decent widget
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Thanks for ya'll feedback I live in the caribbean where Blackberry's run the show...Been eyeing Android Since the 1st Atrix...N coming from a bb storm n torch I kno I wont be disappointed...Jus hope its worth the $389 I coughed up for it....Btw can ya'll tell me what apps i will be interested in especially a weather app with a decent widget
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Beautiful Widgets is 10cents today on the market. It has nice weather and you can select between two different sources.
The only thing that is different about the A2 compared to its high-end competitors is its price.
At the person talking about apps disappearing, the same thing happened to me. They would usually reappear after a restart. I found out that it's because some apps stored on the microSD card try to get accessed before the microSD card is fully mounted, and it messes with all the apps on the microSD. For me, the problem app was a theme for GO SMS. Just go to "Manage Apps" and find the apps on the "external storage", click on one you think might be causing a problem and select "Move to phone."
I have owned other android devices and I was a flash addict, that's how I killed my captivate... That being said, I do look forward to flashable ROMS and other tweaks and mods for the A2. But, I can say that I have never been this satisfied with a stock device as I am with the A2. I got it at Target 2 weeks ago, it was free with a 2 year contract ... I am thoroughly happy with it, I could not ask more of a stock device.
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I have owned other android devices and I was a flash addict, that's how I killed my captivate... That being said, I do look forward to flashable ROMS and other tweaks and mods for the A2. But, I can say that I have never been this satisfied with a stock device as I am with the A2. I got it at Target 2 weeks ago, it was free with a 2 year contract ... I am thoroughly happy with it, I could not ask more of a stock device.
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Same here. Had a captivate and loved it. Still have it as a matter of fact but the ATRIX 2 is pretty badass out of the box. I can't wait to see custom rom's on it.
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No one mentioned this here?
Since it's not a Question, I installed the latest Quadrant "cause i blamed it on a ROM {RAVEN}"
Fine, this time it wasn't his fault...
Tested it on SGS4G
SGS 2
Evo4G
LG G2x
ALL show the same, Graphics suuukkkk
And it takes longer than the USPS to deliver a lost package just to get the CPU.
You're welcome
What? none of you noticed this?
Confirmed on a friends brand new SGS4G
CSOS said:
No one mentioned this here?
Since it's not a Question, I installed the latest Quadrant "cause i blamed it on a ROM {RAVEN}"
Fine, this time it wasn't his fault...
Tested it on SGS4G
SGS 2
Evo4G
LG G2x
ALL show the same, Graphics suuukkkk
And it takes longer than the USPS to deliver a lost package just to get the CPU.
You're welcome
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Which latest quadrant (not to be a douche, just wondering which one is not working well)? Is it just the benchmark test, or is your ROM sucking as well? Remember, quadrant scores don't mean a lot, it's the end user experience that counts. The only reason we posts quad scores is to give peeps a reference of how silky smooth something is. If you are not having the same experiences as others on a ROM, then you should consider Gremlins Removal.
I get 3008 with the new one so..hmm
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Quadrant 2.0 give lower scores I get 2000
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And even at 2000 that is well above the original score of 900.
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Which latest quadrant (not to be a douche, just wondering which one is not working well)? Is it just the benchmark test, or is your ROM sucking as well? Remember, quadrant scores don't mean a lot, it's the end user experience that counts. The only reason we posts quad scores is to give peeps a reference of how silky smooth something is. If you are not having the same experiences as others on a ROM, then you should consider Gremlins Removal.
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I think if I interpreted his post correctly he is complaining about the look and how long it takes not the actual test.
I could be wrong and probably am but that is how I understood him.
CSOS I noticed it but figured it to be a "feature" of the free version.
Yes eollie, that is what I meant. I know i write differently.
Thanks.
even though the scores are different with the new quad if you notice the phone is still higher than the galaxy nexus which has ICS 4.0
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even though the scores are different with the new quad if you notice the phone is still higher than the galaxy nexus which has ICS 4.0
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Weird thing is the scores are WAY different like Im getting 2100 now vs. 2990 before.
Tha antutu score is still the dame but quad is just stupid now.
What you guys don't understand is that all the scoring systems are different. Say I want to make part of your score based off of your SD card read speed, and then multiply that by 10. If you have a class 10 card you might get 16 megs / s read speed, multiply that by 10 and we get a score of 160. I release version 2 of my benchmark and decide that now the sd card read speed will be multiplied by .5, so instead of giving you 160 more points for your sd read speed you only get 8 points.
All the benchmarks are artificial numbers taking measurements that the benchmark author decided. They almost never reflect real usage performance of your phones. You're better off measuring every day tasks like copying your music collection to your phone, phone bootup time, how much time it takes to open your browser, the fps you get in your favorite games, etc. Things that you ACTUALLY do on your phones. Based on this you can have your own measurements to see how your phone performs with different roms.
Anyone else running cm10.1 getting really low benchmarks? On TouchWiz, Quadrant Standard scored a 12,314.
On cm10.1 it scored a 6,533. Is this a battery saving feature? It isn't really that bothering but if it's underclocking the CPU for battery, I'd like the option to disable it if I'm doing heavy tasks.
Ran latest 7/9 Buld of CM10.1 just now. Got a 6602.
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Revised... I ran that as stock. I went into performance and set governing policy for CPU to Performance to lock it in at 1.9ghz. Got a 6576 doing that,
Oh no, you got a really low benchmark.
Does the phone feel half as slow? Probably not.
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evodon84 said:
Oh no, you got a really low benchmark.
Does the phone feel half as slow? Probably not.
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I don't need the cliché "Benchmarks don't matter" speech that is so common. My concern isn't that it scored low, I'm just curious as to if it's a cm10 power saving option, and if you can disable it.
No it is most likely that CM doesn't add the bs changes just to improve the score. I can make a stock roms that blows every other device out of the water in quad rent but runs like crap. All that really matters is real world use.
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zelendel said:
No it is most likely that CM doesn't add the bs changes just to improve the score. I can make a stock roms that blows every other device out of the water in quad rent but runs like crap. All that really matters is real world use.
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My HTC One on CM10 scored an 11,800.
Southernboyj said:
My HTC One on CM10 scored an 11,800.
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Ok? They are two different devices with different coding and kernels. Can't compare the 2
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zelendel said:
Ok? They are two different devices with different coding and kernels. Can't compare the 2
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So 2 devices with very similar internal specs should vary over 100%? That's a big jump.
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So 2 devices with very similar internal specs should vary over 100%? That's a big jump.
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It very well could. There is a ton of different coding for each device that could effect it. This is the reason no one puts any stock in them. They mainly use a random number generator to get the scores. Take the nexus 4 and the non nexus version of the device. Same internals but get very different scores.
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Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
xavier55 said:
Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
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Stange....I obtained 66610 Antutu 6.0.1 score on mu LG V10 H961N and 65222 on my wife's LG G4 H815
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Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
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Look at your notificationbar you have tons out stuff currently running and one looks like an antivirus app.
Restart your phone and close the antivirus and the apps which show the notifications.
There's a reason why in benchmarks only the necessary stuff runs.
(in pc benchmarks they often use a separate ssd with a minimal Windows installation on it to get higher scores)
P.s.: the g4 should have an nearly eqaul score than the v10 and the note 5 of course has the higher score it has one of the fastest processors atm even faster than the snapdragon 810.
I have both phones, they are not that different. The G4 is rooted and debloated while the V10 is somewhat debloated.
I am sure that not running the 3D test is making your overall score lower as well.
Then sell it and buy other phones lmao
I did this test twice.
The first time my score was about 62000
The second time my score was about 54000
So i remove antutu apps from my phone. Its not a stable app and the results are fun. In Every test you will surprise with a strange score...
Remove it and enjoy ... Best phone of world is in your hands.
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hesamjm said:
I did this test twice.
The first time my score was about 62000
The second time my score was about 54000
So i remove antutu apps from my phone. Its not a stable app and the results are fun. In Every test you will surprise with a strange score...
Remove it and enjoy ... Best phone of world is in your hands.
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There are many things that changed the score, the app is not unstable, and the score doesnt say much.
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There are many things that changed the score, the app is not unstable, and the score doesnt say much.
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I did test whitout any time twice. Its very fun ... Do you know its about 8000 score differnce...
How is it possible
Just joke
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hesamjm said:
I did test whitout any time twice. Its very fun ... Do you know its about 8000 score differnce...
How is it possible
Just joke
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Not everybody get that 8k score difference, in fact, I tested 5 times and they r all around 63k to 65k
Real world results matter, not benchmarks
OP, you don't even have the 3d benchmark installed, meaning your results are going to be lackluster in comparison with one that does. Personally the highest I've managed to get was 70k, but that seemed to be a one time thing. I average around mid to high 60k.
If you want to run a benchmark it's best to do it on a phone that has been rooted with no extra apps or bloat installed.
Well, a friend of mine has the Note 5, which, although sometimes reaching 85k, still gets about 65k most of the time.
So stop drooling, guys! XD
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Real world results matter, not benchmarks
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To me - this is the best statement towards this discussion. Benchmarks can be skewed and ultimately do not mean much. Every user is different, and each phone responds differently based on use. As a owner of Note's and Iphone 6 Plus - I have to say - the V10 is an impressive phone. If LG continues down this path, they will become a major competitor.
In all honesty benchmark apps are completely pointless. The results mean absolutely nothing. The phone runs great so who cares about a number
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Funny that you all are scoring so highly. I ran AnTuTu 2x while fresh out of the box. Both scores were in the 46-48K range.
I scratched my head because my [rooted & ROM'ed] G3 and S3 had much higher scores but can't match how fast and smooth my [stock & full of bloat] V10 is.
Benchmark scores are indeed for those whom are lacking in other areas LOL. But seriously, don't put much weight into benchmarking your device.
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Benchmarks are for phone nerds
Benchmark scores in a "real life review" section... I can remember Galaxy s3 moments, when roms and kernel had benchmark hacks to give high scores.
Mine were worse, and this was only after less than 24 hours of use, so the memory is not full, and the device isn't packed with apps that run in the background. I made sure to close all apps in the background and disabled everything that might've made the phone slower. The end result was something that Note 3 could beat easily. I think it's software-related, but I also think they will never fix it. G5 is out, and since they're going head to head with Samsung right now (and they will lose), it's their main priority. We'll be lucky if we ever get Marshmallow.