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[Q] Samsung Galaxy 3 quadrant benchmarks

Hello everybody. I have a Samsung Galaxy I5800 and the quadrant result was 339. Is that good?

That sounds really low actually. If you use the quadrant standard app it will show you your benchmark in relation to other phones to give you an idea of where you're at.
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yes, you are right. Actually I did a little research my self and I found that this number is pretty much low even for my phone itself (without comparing to better phones at all)

That is very low to give you an idea my phones benchmark is at 1847
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Synthetic benchmarks, especially one as crap and easily manipulated as Quadrant, will tell you nothing about how the phone feels in real life.
It's like how the manufacturers want to put dual core cpus in their phones so that they can add more and more bloatware. The device will score high in a benchmark but will be significantly slower than a single core running a vanilla ROM.

monokoter said:
That is very low to give you an idea my phones benchmark is at 1847
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This is not possible. Apparently you don't have a galaxy 3.

DirkGently1 said:
Synthetic benchmarks, especially one as crap and easily manipulated as Quadrant, will tell you nothing about how the phone feels in real life.
It's like how the manufacturers want to put dual core cpus in their phones so that they can add more and more bloatware. The device will score high in a benchmark but will be significantly slower than a single core running a vanilla ROM.
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Yes, I know and I totally agree with you. This is not only in cellphones. In computer's world things are much more worse. But I only use this app to have an overall idea of my phone potential, since I have installed the latest version of 2.2, deleted lots of stuff I didn't need and installed only a few absolutely necessary aftermarket applications, and yet my phone is relatively slow according to what I see over the net.

In another tread of xda I saw some numbers of what is considered to be a good result for galaxy 3 and it's over 500. Almost 550. So I'm now definitely sure that's there is something wrong with my phone since it only scores 330.
So, I'd like to know if there is any way to make it a bit better?

No I don't have a SG3 I Have Captivate and even before I tweeked this phone I still scored upper 900. This phone is only rooted with stock froyo and it is fast as hell so I decided to stay away from third party roms for now.
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AWESOME! These are looking great

monokoter said:
No I don't have a SG3 I Have Captivate and even before I tweeked this phone I still scored upper 900. This phone is only rooted with stock froyo and it is fast as hell so I decided to stay away from third party roms for now.
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Trust me, it's not third party ROMs that make a phone slow. Mine scored that low from the very first moment I flashed the os. Before installing anything but quadrant.

So, any other ideas?

Anyone ???

Quadrant isn't reliable. You shouldn't worry about it. If you are satisfied with your phone then that's that.
In reference to third-party roms, they are usually designed to be much faster than stock actually. You might want to consider finding one for your phone to give it a boost.
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sageDieu said:
Quadrant isn't reliable. You shouldn't worry about it. If you are satisfied with your phone then that's that.
In reference to third-party roms, they are usually designed to be much faster than stock actually. You might want to consider finding one for your phone to give it a boost.
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Actually I'm not satisfied with my phone at all. That's why I started this thread. It's slow, it has glitches, apps crash occasionally and generally it's unpredictable. For example, double twist, the app I used instead of the built in player, starts playing by itself quite often, while it not even on running apps list...

I have a captivate running firefly 3.0. I was getting 2100 with eclair. 1800 with froyo. Now in the 1300 range. Firefly is definitely garter even though the scores don't show it. I have zero lag now. I dint think the benchmark scores are that reliable.
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If you use the quadrant standard app it will show you your benchmark in relation to other phones to give you an idea of where you're at

will test this soon, looks like a very nice build, keep up the good work

My blade on CM7 goes to 900+

[Q] EPIC 4G overclocked Better then INFUSE?

So recently my friend brought the infuse 4g and he ran linpack and quadrent and compared it to my epic 4g and noticed epic 4g has alot higher scores. why is this since this phone comes stock with 1.2ghz

what kernel is he running on the epic. I can say this phone smokes the sgs in linpack. not sure what he is talking about there. and did he have 2.3.3 on the epic? that would explain quadrant, if you setup stagefright on 2.3 a certain way on this chip it gets like 1000 more points in quadrant based on its media encoding/decoding alone.
this is a dumb question, is his infuse stock? and as far as linpack could he be comparing it to an evo not an epic?
next time you make a statement like this come armed with numbers. what is his epic quadrant score, what is his infuse score, and what are the linpack scores respectively? I can tell you I have only seen evidence so far that the infuse overclocks better than other hummingbird phones.

Quadrant sucks.
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Dani897 said:
what kernel is he running on the epic. I can say this phone smokes the sgs in linpack. not sure what he is talking about there. and did he have 2.3.3 on the epic? that would explain quadrant, if you setup stagefright on 2.3 a certain way on this chip it gets like 1000 more points in quadrant based on its media encoding/decoding alone.
this is a dumb question, is his infuse stock? and as far as linpack could he be comparing it to an evo not an epic?
next time you make a statement like this come armed with numbers. what is his epic quadrant score, what is his infuse score, and what are the linpack scores respectively? I can tell you I have only seen evidence so far that the infuse overclocks better than other hummingbird phones.
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well his infuse just a scores above the stock epic 4g and the epic has a score of 2800 running on android 2.2 and can be overclocked to run stable on 1.4ghz to get a score of 3200 and higher on quadrant. and my friend is hesident to root his phone just because he just purchesed it like 3 days ago.

theres a million factors put in to scoring higher benchmarks. if you use a couple of these custom roms, youll notice huge improvements by whats included in those roms. an overclock kernel will get you faster speeds. switching to different governors will up the response in cpu scaling. data2sd will add almost another 1000 points. not to mention changes changes in hardware between the devices and what apps you have running. theres alot of ways to improve the performance of the device and alot of ways to cheat at quadrant. its a good pissing competition yard stick but dont rely on it to tell the full story.

Lol. Benchmarks.
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benchmarks are good tools if used properly but I'm not sure if the typical xda user can really read a benchmark and learn from it.
those numbers on the epic sound really high. 2800 even on 2.2.1 is hard to acieve on a hummingbird. but his lagfix is probably not ext4. ext2 and nilfs2 file systems will inflate quadrant to no end. atleast with voodoo we have a common yardstick to other android phones even if quadrant stills seems to give the sgs with voodoo a huge advantage over other devices. there are other posible factors but quadrant can be manipulated as it is over sensitive to a few things. I can assure you it is not a hardware issue and the epic has no real advantage. it is only benchmark manipulation and kernel tweeking.
if I told you my captivate gets a 2600 would you think it was faster than the infuse? well mine got that and more. I got about a 2600 on 2.1 @1200mhz with overclocked gpu and oneclick lagfix. ill assure you my infuse is faster with a 1800 on the same benchmark.
infact I have seen more than 3000 on the cappy, that was with gb.
I have seen nexus s and sgs phones with gb and ext2 or nilfs2 file systems get 35-3700 matching the sgs2 and smoking all other dual core phones. does this mean they are actually comparable to thw sgs2? or 50% faster than a dualcore phone?

it helps to also have the advanced version of quadrant to see where the device is falling or exceeding. even still, you can inflate those numbers.

[Q] HTC Vivid poor quadrant?

As I already know Quadrant isn't the best benchmark, but I noticed that the Evo 3D which seems to be about the same spec wise as the Vivid gets better scores and especially in FPS almost double at times, almost as if the Vivid is capped
Is this because Quadrant isn't optimized for the Vivid? I'm guess that the answer but would like to know just for sake of cursorily.
Thanks!

Quadrant isn't optimized for any dual core devices. Its an extremely inaccurate benchmark. Looking at specs, they should be pretty close if using a good benchmark test, unless there's a big difference in the gpu.
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Seems like quadrant hasn't been changed in a long while considering the phones on the result list.
I'm pretty sure they share the same GPU, just seems like the phone is getting a bad wrap for that reason.

nexus 5 bad scores?

so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.

clorbag said:
so i was watching youtube and this guy did a few tests, antutu quadrant etc.the nexus 5 didnt even score as high as s4 on any of them.
is this because of 4.4? dunno just seems really odd a phone equipped the way it is wouldnt make good scores. ik they are mostly superficial but it kinda does matter to me.
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Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!
I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.
So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.

It's the same reason why you don't solely judge a football team by total yards. There's much more to the story.
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yeah i thought they were odd. i had phones that were powerful that didnt score well. and phones with less power scoring insane. its really for bragging rights among friends. but its something i seem to use every time i get a new phone. that also explains why some stock roms making better scores then some of the better custom ones.

God u ppl it's android 4.4 that's why apps need to be updated for android 4.4.
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I don't know why this still has to be said every time a new phone is released, but here we go... Benchmark scores mean absolutely NOTHING in real world usability/performance. Stop worrying about it and enjoy your phone (whenever you get it).

technostein said:
Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!
I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.
So don't bother with them no more is my advice. you will see in real world usage how much faster it is. it's a beast.
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Actually the same investigators who have brought the benchmark goosing issues to light have already said the neither Motorola nor Apple does this. So some companies benchmarked still hold true.

even if they mean nothing i was curious why the nexus scored lower to comparable phones. so chill man.

technostein said:
Samsung are one of the known companies to optimize their CPU for benchmarks. Ever since this discovery I have come to believe there completely useless!
I am pretty sure Apple do the same but not sure.
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According to Anandtech the performance gain of the "optimizations" is about 5%. So, not much.
And about Apple, what they do is optimize their software for specific benchmarks. Even worse IMO.

He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.
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Reminds me of The Kardashians...lots of fake drama, ultimately meaning nothing.

WHO CARES! Yes, I agree that it shouldn't be benchmarking so low with the same processor as the note 3 and g2, but in real world use, this thing probably flies like the Nexus 4.
I haven't actually used the device, so I actually have no clue if it's fast or not, but according to all the reviews and hands on's, it's fast.
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wideasleep1 said:
Reminds me of The Kardashians...lots of fake drama, ultimately meaning nothing.
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lol

stelv said:
He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.
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My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.

sn0warmy said:
My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
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Completely agree. :good:

Benchmarks are so misunderstood.
Benchmarks won't tell ya how smooth a device will be, at least with hardware within a year or 2 of each other. And that's simply cuz modern hardware will run most any semi well coded os smoothly.
Benchmarks will give ya a real good idea how long a device will take to zip or unzip files, or recode or edit that hd video you just took, or run that 3d intensive game, and many others things.
So ya see, benchmarks can be meaningless, and can be most informative. Depends on what your talking about, and the trolls never say what they are taking about. Merrily we troll along ......... troll along ......... troll along .......

sn0warmy said:
My point still stands. It all still means nothing. If the benchmark apps update for 4.4 (assuming that this is even the issue) and the scores stay low, then what? Are you going to return your phone? Are you going to demand an explanation from Google/LG? I mean, seriously what does it matter what these arbitrary scores are if your phone performs exactly as you'd expect it to?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an ass but it just seems silly to waste time caring about this.
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Doesn't matter to me. Real world performance is all I need. They shouldn't be low though if the g2 is getting 1,000s of points higher. I am sure everything will be fine though when I get mine and test it out.
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stelv said:
He's correct. Even if benchmarks don't matter it still shouldn't score this low. There is something wrong. Like someone said before the benchmark apps probably need to be updated to 4.4. But it is something to keep an eye on. We should keep an eye on real world performance, if that lags than we have the benchmarks as a reference.
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But it was the Same with the Nexus 4. the Xperia Z blew it away even with same specs. Which is more evidence that benchmarks are useless.
One thing I can't help but wonder is how much would a iPhone score with a snapdragon 800

some of you are taking this out of context and making it more then it needs to be. all i want to know is why its not scoring as high as expected or to comparable devices. i don't care if benchmark tests mean anything or not.

clorbag said:
some of you are taking this out of context and making it more then it needs to be. all i want to know is why its not scoring as high as expected or to comparable devices. i don't care if benchmark tests mean anything or not.
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so far we can only guess that it might not be optimized for 4.4

Most synthetic benchmarks are useless and misleading. The only ones I pay attention to are ones based on real game engines like Epic Citadel and Anomaly 2. Can anyone share benchmark results for these two at highest settings?

Did a benchmark but I dislike the results..

Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??

xavier55 said:
Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
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Stange....I obtained 66610 Antutu 6.0.1 score on mu LG V10 H961N and 65222 on my wife's LG G4 H815

xavier55 said:
Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
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Look at your notificationbar you have tons out stuff currently running and one looks like an antivirus app.
Restart your phone and close the antivirus and the apps which show the notifications.
There's a reason why in benchmarks only the necessary stuff runs.
(in pc benchmarks they often use a separate ssd with a minimal Windows installation on it to get higher scores)
P.s.: the g4 should have an nearly eqaul score than the v10 and the note 5 of course has the higher score it has one of the fastest processors atm even faster than the snapdragon 810.

I have both phones, they are not that different. The G4 is rooted and debloated while the V10 is somewhat debloated.
I am sure that not running the 3D test is making your overall score lower as well.

Then sell it and buy other phones lmao

I did this test twice.
The first time my score was about 62000
The second time my score was about 54000
So i remove antutu apps from my phone. Its not a stable app and the results are fun. In Every test you will surprise with a strange score...
Remove it and enjoy ... Best phone of world is in your hands.
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hesamjm said:
I did this test twice.
The first time my score was about 62000
The second time my score was about 54000
So i remove antutu apps from my phone. Its not a stable app and the results are fun. In Every test you will surprise with a strange score...
Remove it and enjoy ... Best phone of world is in your hands.
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There are many things that changed the score, the app is not unstable, and the score doesnt say much.

trungvov10 said:
There are many things that changed the score, the app is not unstable, and the score doesnt say much.
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I did test whitout any time twice. Its very fun ... Do you know its about 8000 score differnce...
How is it possible
Just joke
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I did test whitout any time twice. Its very fun ... Do you know its about 8000 score differnce...
How is it possible
Just joke
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Not everybody get that 8k score difference, in fact, I tested 5 times and they r all around 63k to 65k

Real world results matter, not benchmarks

OP, you don't even have the 3d benchmark installed, meaning your results are going to be lackluster in comparison with one that does. Personally the highest I've managed to get was 70k, but that seemed to be a one time thing. I average around mid to high 60k.

If you want to run a benchmark it's best to do it on a phone that has been rooted with no extra apps or bloat installed.

Well, a friend of mine has the Note 5, which, although sometimes reaching 85k, still gets about 65k most of the time.
So stop drooling, guys! XD

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Real world results matter, not benchmarks
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To me - this is the best statement towards this discussion. Benchmarks can be skewed and ultimately do not mean much. Every user is different, and each phone responds differently based on use. As a owner of Note's and Iphone 6 Plus - I have to say - the V10 is an impressive phone. If LG continues down this path, they will become a major competitor.

In all honesty benchmark apps are completely pointless. The results mean absolutely nothing. The phone runs great so who cares about a number

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Funny that you all are scoring so highly. I ran AnTuTu 2x while fresh out of the box. Both scores were in the 46-48K range.
I scratched my head because my [rooted & ROM'ed] G3 and S3 had much higher scores but can't match how fast and smooth my [stock & full of bloat] V10 is.
Benchmark scores are indeed for those whom are lacking in other areas LOL. But seriously, don't put much weight into benchmarking your device.
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Benchmarks are for phone nerds

Benchmark scores in a "real life review" section... I can remember Galaxy s3 moments, when roms and kernel had benchmark hacks to give high scores.

Mine were worse, and this was only after less than 24 hours of use, so the memory is not full, and the device isn't packed with apps that run in the background. I made sure to close all apps in the background and disabled everything that might've made the phone slower. The end result was something that Note 3 could beat easily. I think it's software-related, but I also think they will never fix it. G5 is out, and since they're going head to head with Samsung right now (and they will lose), it's their main priority. We'll be lucky if we ever get Marshmallow.