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Ok we root our Infuse 4g now what?

I'm making this topic to help guys who switch from iPhone and get the Infuse 4g, Okay easily they can follow the routing process, after that the big question is now what?
Please if anyone have suggestion or any Apps that you think will make new rooters enjoy the infuse 4g do post.
My 1st suggestion is SetCpu app,
This can adjust your processors speed and even make it run faster from 1.2ghz to 1.4ghz+, they called this overclocking.
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First app after root should be Titanium Backup, donate version.

yea, thats right, then its easy restore.
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next comes root explorer

Then adfree

Noob question here. I'm rooted and downloaded setcpu. How do I move the cursor past the 1.2 mark?
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cmjkxa said:
Noob question here. I'm rooted and downloaded setcpu. How do I move the cursor past the 1.2 mark?
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need a different cpu driver. that means either a kernel module or an overclock kernel. unfortunately there is basically no kernel dev going on for thins phone that i know of and overclock is not yet an option. it will be soon but dont expect much. many hummingbird chips cant reach speeds any faster than 1.3ghz, though theinfuse may have a cpu that tests beter than the galaxy s to support the higher stock clock speed. a few hummingbirds can go to 1.6ghz so if you get lucky it can be very very fast. just luck of the draw though. i an more interested in a gingerbread port however. the market and browser and overall feeling of the phone on 2.3.3 is more significant than overclocking and safer as well.

the processor in the infuse is not the same generation as what you would find in something like the captivate. like the different generations of the snapdragon, performance and specifications are pretty much completely different. ill expect some high cpu values to come when we get a new kernel.

Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.

The Jack of Clubs said:
the processor in the infuse is not the same generation as what you would find in something like the captivate. like the different generations of the snapdragon, performance and specifications are pretty much completely different. ill expect some high cpu values to come when we get a new kernel.
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the build.prop shows the same part number. it is the same generation. the snapdragon went through a die shrink (65nm-45nm) and got a new graphics processor. not exactly a good comparison. qc may be better now but that doesnt mean you should expect any more than 1.4 ghz and a few people might be stuck with no overclock at all. really if you want a faster phone why buy what is more or less a midrange processor? infact it is soo hard to find a <1ghz chip now that there isnt really a mid range this year only single core and dual core. there is the tegra2 and the new orion chips and will soon be dual core snapdragons. believe me if this is not fast enough you really want to look at a different platform. i got this phone because i realize clock speed is not as important as good software and because the sgs was so good i thought a bigger screen, more ram, and mhl could only be a good thing.

MikeyMike01 said:
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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+100 for this comment.
EVERY overclocked ROM in every phone's thread claims it's 2x faster than any other phone. haha... if every phone is faster than every other phone, what's the point?
I think overclocking is just done for those who need that little extra control in their life that they may be lacking elsewhere, hehe

Exactly... why would You want to overclock a phone, to tell Your friends its overclocked?

...then later ROM Manager, market enabler and ...........tune-in radio ;-)

Trancerush said:
...then later ROM Manager, market enabler and ...........tune-in radio ;-)
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I installed rom manager to try flashing the mobile ap zip but its telling me i have to flash a recovery first. Im a little scared, lol
Not sure if i can find a mobile ap apk?

MikeyMike01 said:
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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I fried my beautiful Captivate using an overclocked kernel running at 1.3ghz.....i will never do that again...
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Trancerush said:
Exactly... why would You want to overclock a phone, to tell Your friends its overclocked?
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hell yeah. its impressive. ive never broken anything by overclocking anything. theres been protection built into them for years. its not like battery is really effected, its a scaling processor, its only at the overclocked speed when you need it. as far as im concerned, its free performance, and i plan to use it when the infuse gets some overclockyness.

MikeyMike01 said:
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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They may hold true for the Captivate or even the Infuse but it definitely was not the case with the Inspire. A mild bump from 1.0 to 1.2ghz made a very substantial difference in smoothness and feel and did very little to heat and battery.

I find screenshot it so useful. For rooters only
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Please keep the suggestions coming. I am new to Android from the iphone and a newbie to rooting. Knew my way around jailbreaking and what i needed and wanted once that was accomplished, but to tell the truth alot of that comes standard with android so looking to broaden my horizons even more.

I noticed an appreciable difference with my Epic when I overclocked from 1.0ghz to 1.2ghz. Games that normally used to lag, stopped lagging completely. Games load faster. The system performance is much smoother as well.

[Q] Not living up to the Dual-Core hype?

I just bought the sensation yesterday from T-Mobile. It seems to me after plenty of use that the battery gets drained good. Though, the speed doesn't. My friends HD2 with the similar sensation rom on it ran almost as smooth as this phone, while his was clocked single core 1ghz...even at a single core this phone should be faster right? Not only does HTC lock the bootloader, but do they also lock the dual-cores?
You decide...

While speed might not be as fast as it could be, I have to say that multitasking is flawless. I came from the Vibrant and the phone would freeze up doing normal activities (lock screen, phone calls, etc). I have yet to have the sensation freeze up on me. THAT is what I care about, not which app drawer loads fastest. Reliability is key.

matistight said:
I just bought the sensation yesterday from T-Mobile. It seems to me after plenty of use that the battery gets drained good. Though, the speed doesn't. My friends HD2 with the similar sensation rom on it ran almost as smooth as this phone, while his was clocked single core 1ghz...even at a single core this phone should be faster right? Not only does HTC lock the bootloader, but do they also lock the dual-cores?
You decide...
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Sounds like he was running a Sense 2.1 ROM with Sense 3.0 lockscreen - that's the only combination I could find on my HD2 that gave ANY kind of performance.
All of the Sense 3.0 ROMs ran so badly on my HD2 that I couldn't keep them on my phone more than a day.

Honestly I believe that the software we have right now is not optimized for dual core so until Ice cream Sandwich comes out. I really doubt dual cores are really gong to be make that much of a difference.

Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.

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Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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God.. thank you for mentioning about the battery life... Yesterday (1st day) my phone was draining ~9%/hr, today it's more like 5-7%/hr. With the same settings, my HD2 could do 2%/hr... I was starting to get worried about the issue. Hopefully I will see the battery life extend as time goes on like you suggested.

MAN thats the truth what a slow device and its funny i walked into tmobile to try it before i said it was slow and the rep saw my g2x in my hand and said your G2x is going to be faster then that sensation that your going to touch hahaha FUNNY.The sensation spit out a 2050 on quadrant i guess is ok but my g2x stock on 2.2 spits out a 2500 to 2700 so think when 2.3 hits anywho the sensation looks good on paper but real world no
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Sense 3.0 is crippling the phone. I think we'll see a big improvement when we get an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs

E-MAC said:
Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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E-mac, what special methods, if any, did you use to condition the new battery? What was you charging habits? Care to give us your experience with the battery, like how long run and how much better left at end of day? Thanks allot
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Wait for an ota. It will iron out the kinks. According to android central, the evolution 3d is faster. There is little reason for this beyond the 3d maybe having more optimized software since it came out later/ was delayed. I know he sensation has less memory, but in the android architecture that is not a big deal if you still have some ram free...unlike windows where the more the better. In android, if your not using all your memory and you got a decent amount free, your good to go.
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One thing I have noticed reading all the Sensation reviews - the browser performance is quite poor, especially in sunspider. In fact it appears to be slower than my SGS which is a single 1ghz hummingbird processor. Is it just the Sense browser that is not optimised for dual core? does opera mobile give better performance?

lokhor said:
One thing I have noticed reading all the Sensation reviews - the browser performance is quite poor, especially in sunspider. In fact it appears to be slower than my SGS which is a single 1ghz hummingbird processor. Is it just the Sense browser that is not optimised for dual core? does opera mobile give better performance?
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Were you running a custom Rom on your SGS? Most custom roms have had major improvements to their javascript performance (which is what sunspider tests).

Multitasking is where this processor shines. Even on my G2X I would have to use the app called Fast Reboot to speed things up after a couple hours of use but I have had the Sensation on for 48 hours straight without using that app once and it's still lightning fast.
I think most people on here are expecting way to much from the dual core devices when most everything out there isn't even optimized for it. Sit back, relax and wait until we get optimization or go back to your HD2.

mike2518 said:
E-mac, what special methods, if any, did you use to condition the new battery? What was you charging habits? Care to give us your experience with the battery, like how long run and how much better left at end of day? Thanks allot
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Not intending to hijack the thread, but I havent done anything special to condition the battery like I had to on my Evo. I can easily get through a day and a half with moderate use. It's almost always going to seem abysmal to start with simply because you can't put the damn thing down.

I just bought the sensation yesterday and played with it extensively and speed was fine, I'm sure time will tell if my opinions will change. Its charging now...but honestly folks, for those that complain about its speed, how fast does the phone need to be before people stop complaining about speed.
The question should really be does the phone perform fast enough so that the user does not experience lag on any of the apps, video/audio, texting, etc...functions they perform. If you are experiencing this then please explain what apps or programs you were running and what you are using as your basis for comparisons.
Its like buying the latest and greatest PC or Mac and then running dos programs...unless you are running really intensive A/V, memory or resource processes/programs, these benchmark scores really don't amount to much but a number for the average/typical user no matter how geeky or technical we think we are.
~rant over :-D
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jrwingate6 said:
Multitasking is where this processor shines. Even on my G2X I would have to use the app called Fast Reboot to speed things up after a couple hours of use but I have had the Sensation on for 48 hours straight without using that app once and it's still lightning fast.
I think most people on here are expecting way to much from the dual core devices when most everything out there isn't even optimized for it. Sit back, relax and wait until we get optimization or go back to your HD2.
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Amen!
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What makes the g2x so special

I coming from htc g2 and all i got to say is that i am disappointed I though I was making a big jump changing to this phone but I was wrong.i was able to over clock my g2 to 1.8 ghz and have a very snappy phone with good battery life now with the g2x its the other way around I tried all the roms and theres always something or some kind of bug with them. Is there some thing special about tegra that I am missing out on!
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It sucks, you might as well leave now.
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Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...

You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.

It sucks, you might as well leave now.
I never said it sucked! All I am saying is if its one of the tegra phones why is is so buggy.
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Don't get me wrong and don't get mad I like the phone but there's something missing. You can't really tell the difference between this two I used to stream live TV on my g2 no problem and with the g2x it lags like crazy.
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nraudigy2 said:
You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.
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There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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jonathann0222 said:
There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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http://www.tegrazone.com/games
Now I'm planning on getting this phone and have heard some good things about its speed. I sold my MT4G not to long ago and I think any dual core phone if quicker than what I had, I doubt the G2X is so terrible on Ginger.

It would help if you told us the problems with ur phone so we can help to get it fixed.
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probably one of the best up to date phones that has vanilla android. cant stand sense that much

Well the G2 is a good solid phone. It's been out for much longer and is seasoned and tweaked to run well. I had a Nexus One and it worked pretty well.
One thing you have to realize is that Android doesn't even take advantage of dual cores yet, not until Ice Cream Sandwich. ICS also will bring (supposedly) whole UI graphic acceleration (like Win7 and iOS) for smooth transitions and fancy effects.
So while what you say is true, (My G2 was just as fast as the G2x), you are speaking in terms of NOW. But the G2x has some power under its hood. If Android can unlock the GPU for its UI, we'll definitely have the fastest phone out there.
As far as Streaming TV and video, that sounds like an app issue. You came from a second generation Snapdragon which was widely supported to a Tegra 2 which is new and fresh. Different apps run differently on different chipsets. If you use a Video player that properly utilizes the Tegra's, you'll have smooth playback. Bandwidth also comes into play. I stream Netflix all the time and have no issues, just depends on where you are. Hotels usually throttle network utilization so everyone can grab a piece of the pie, especially voice, video and P2P traffic. I typically have no issue at hotels either and I travel a LOT.
Perhaps it would be beneficial to tell us your setup. Rom, kernel, apps, etc.
I run MIUI 1.9.23 and no special kernel (ATM) or use Faux's 4.2 SV Kernel at normal speeds. I don't OC or UV or anything fancy. MIUI still has its issues but overall works great and is a joy to use.
MIUI, CM7, or Weapon is the best choices IMO. Weapon works VERY well but I think its butt ugly coming from MIUI or CM7 themes (no offense!). CM7 and MIUI work great but will probably never be perfect (because they are always changing and adding stuff) where Weapon is going after a stock-like perfection.
Also lots of the issues of the custom roms regarding WiFi Calling and APN issues are thought to be caused by the SIM card or related. I ordered a SUPER OLD never used SIM card off ebay, the old style, and will do some testing to see if I get any better results. Cost me $5.50 total and if it works, it will be money well spent. Good luck Jim.

i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better

Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.

d12unk13astard said:
Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.
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If the devs port ICS we will see it, LG won't be giving us anymore updates. G2X is dead to them.

Oh no doubt, my statement was based on the deb's porting it to all our devices. I know LG isn't gonna release any more updates or OTA cuz they suck. Without our devs our phones would never see ICS and therefore be obsolete long time ago.
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I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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moeahmad1995 said:
I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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There is no legal binding about the update. Even the GB update was to fix the issues they had and save their brand-name.
I remember how Samsung made us waiting for more than 6 months for 2.2 update for Vibrant.

Mister Hat said:
Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...
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Please do leave, You sir have no concept of how a processor works. If you over clock to 1.55 Its clocked at 1.55, Its not 3ghz because you can add both together. It just does not work like that, Tasks that are made to run on one core don't become suddenly faster because of the extra core helping out, The extra core hardly helps out at all. The only reason why the tegra 2 is Snappy is because of the CPU architecture and the gpu that's bolted in. Benchmarks don't mean a thing if a Snapdragon MSM8255 can run toe to toe with the Tegra 2 in applications.

The G2x is an awesome phone. I think that you just have not found a ROM that suites your needs. My wife has a G2 and she is all the time saying that she wants to switch phones because hers is so slow. Hers is rooted and overclocked to 1.5Ghz. Like someone said before tell us your problems and let us help you get your phone working right for you. Trust me people on this forum site can get your phone working properly for you.

x0xhellx0x said:
i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better
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I am so happy for you.....seriouslyI work for Garmin (@Headquarters) and I wouldn't dare buy a Garminfone

QUADRANT gone MAD

No one mentioned this here?
Since it's not a Question, I installed the latest Quadrant "cause i blamed it on a ROM {RAVEN}"
Fine, this time it wasn't his fault...
Tested it on SGS4G
SGS 2
Evo4G
LG G2x
ALL show the same, Graphics suuukkkk
And it takes longer than the USPS to deliver a lost package just to get the CPU.
You're welcome

What? none of you noticed this?
Confirmed on a friends brand new SGS4G

CSOS said:
No one mentioned this here?
Since it's not a Question, I installed the latest Quadrant "cause i blamed it on a ROM {RAVEN}"
Fine, this time it wasn't his fault...
Tested it on SGS4G
SGS 2
Evo4G
LG G2x
ALL show the same, Graphics suuukkkk
And it takes longer than the USPS to deliver a lost package just to get the CPU.
You're welcome
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Which latest quadrant (not to be a douche, just wondering which one is not working well)? Is it just the benchmark test, or is your ROM sucking as well? Remember, quadrant scores don't mean a lot, it's the end user experience that counts. The only reason we posts quad scores is to give peeps a reference of how silky smooth something is. If you are not having the same experiences as others on a ROM, then you should consider Gremlins Removal.

I get 3008 with the new one so..hmm
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Quadrant 2.0 give lower scores I get 2000
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And even at 2000 that is well above the original score of 900.

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Which latest quadrant (not to be a douche, just wondering which one is not working well)? Is it just the benchmark test, or is your ROM sucking as well? Remember, quadrant scores don't mean a lot, it's the end user experience that counts. The only reason we posts quad scores is to give peeps a reference of how silky smooth something is. If you are not having the same experiences as others on a ROM, then you should consider Gremlins Removal.
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I think if I interpreted his post correctly he is complaining about the look and how long it takes not the actual test.
I could be wrong and probably am but that is how I understood him.
CSOS I noticed it but figured it to be a "feature" of the free version.

Yes eollie, that is what I meant. I know i write differently.
Thanks.

even though the scores are different with the new quad if you notice the phone is still higher than the galaxy nexus which has ICS 4.0

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even though the scores are different with the new quad if you notice the phone is still higher than the galaxy nexus which has ICS 4.0
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Weird thing is the scores are WAY different like Im getting 2100 now vs. 2990 before.
Tha antutu score is still the dame but quad is just stupid now.

What you guys don't understand is that all the scoring systems are different. Say I want to make part of your score based off of your SD card read speed, and then multiply that by 10. If you have a class 10 card you might get 16 megs / s read speed, multiply that by 10 and we get a score of 160. I release version 2 of my benchmark and decide that now the sd card read speed will be multiplied by .5, so instead of giving you 160 more points for your sd read speed you only get 8 points.
All the benchmarks are artificial numbers taking measurements that the benchmark author decided. They almost never reflect real usage performance of your phones. You're better off measuring every day tasks like copying your music collection to your phone, phone bootup time, how much time it takes to open your browser, the fps you get in your favorite games, etc. Things that you ACTUALLY do on your phones. Based on this you can have your own measurements to see how your phone performs with different roms.

Did a benchmark but I dislike the results..

Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??

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Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
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Stange....I obtained 66610 Antutu 6.0.1 score on mu LG V10 H961N and 65222 on my wife's LG G4 H815

xavier55 said:
Did a benchmark but the g4 out beats this phone and the note 5 what ya think or feel about this??
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Look at your notificationbar you have tons out stuff currently running and one looks like an antivirus app.
Restart your phone and close the antivirus and the apps which show the notifications.
There's a reason why in benchmarks only the necessary stuff runs.
(in pc benchmarks they often use a separate ssd with a minimal Windows installation on it to get higher scores)
P.s.: the g4 should have an nearly eqaul score than the v10 and the note 5 of course has the higher score it has one of the fastest processors atm even faster than the snapdragon 810.

I have both phones, they are not that different. The G4 is rooted and debloated while the V10 is somewhat debloated.
I am sure that not running the 3D test is making your overall score lower as well.

Then sell it and buy other phones lmao

I did this test twice.
The first time my score was about 62000
The second time my score was about 54000
So i remove antutu apps from my phone. Its not a stable app and the results are fun. In Every test you will surprise with a strange score...
Remove it and enjoy ... Best phone of world is in your hands.
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hesamjm said:
I did this test twice.
The first time my score was about 62000
The second time my score was about 54000
So i remove antutu apps from my phone. Its not a stable app and the results are fun. In Every test you will surprise with a strange score...
Remove it and enjoy ... Best phone of world is in your hands.
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There are many things that changed the score, the app is not unstable, and the score doesnt say much.

trungvov10 said:
There are many things that changed the score, the app is not unstable, and the score doesnt say much.
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I did test whitout any time twice. Its very fun ... Do you know its about 8000 score differnce...
How is it possible
Just joke
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hesamjm said:
I did test whitout any time twice. Its very fun ... Do you know its about 8000 score differnce...
How is it possible
Just joke
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Not everybody get that 8k score difference, in fact, I tested 5 times and they r all around 63k to 65k

Real world results matter, not benchmarks

OP, you don't even have the 3d benchmark installed, meaning your results are going to be lackluster in comparison with one that does. Personally the highest I've managed to get was 70k, but that seemed to be a one time thing. I average around mid to high 60k.

If you want to run a benchmark it's best to do it on a phone that has been rooted with no extra apps or bloat installed.

Well, a friend of mine has the Note 5, which, although sometimes reaching 85k, still gets about 65k most of the time.
So stop drooling, guys! XD

thisisjason said:
Real world results matter, not benchmarks
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To me - this is the best statement towards this discussion. Benchmarks can be skewed and ultimately do not mean much. Every user is different, and each phone responds differently based on use. As a owner of Note's and Iphone 6 Plus - I have to say - the V10 is an impressive phone. If LG continues down this path, they will become a major competitor.

In all honesty benchmark apps are completely pointless. The results mean absolutely nothing. The phone runs great so who cares about a number

Stock rom 5.0 rooted, superuser installed

Funny that you all are scoring so highly. I ran AnTuTu 2x while fresh out of the box. Both scores were in the 46-48K range.
I scratched my head because my [rooted & ROM'ed] G3 and S3 had much higher scores but can't match how fast and smooth my [stock & full of bloat] V10 is.
Benchmark scores are indeed for those whom are lacking in other areas LOL. But seriously, don't put much weight into benchmarking your device.
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Benchmarks are for phone nerds

Benchmark scores in a "real life review" section... I can remember Galaxy s3 moments, when roms and kernel had benchmark hacks to give high scores.

Mine were worse, and this was only after less than 24 hours of use, so the memory is not full, and the device isn't packed with apps that run in the background. I made sure to close all apps in the background and disabled everything that might've made the phone slower. The end result was something that Note 3 could beat easily. I think it's software-related, but I also think they will never fix it. G5 is out, and since they're going head to head with Samsung right now (and they will lose), it's their main priority. We'll be lucky if we ever get Marshmallow.