Hi folks,
I'm coming from a Droid -> Epic -> Captivate Glide -> Relay S 4G.
I was curious what the best ROM is for stability and being fully featured? I've seen the CM10.2 nightlies, but not sure if those were completely functional. I know we have issues on the Captivate Glide with bluetooth, but otherwise, the ROMs worked fine. Was considering even just getting a debloated stock ROM, if one exists...
Also, it looks like the method for root is VERY complicated... Looks like it tries to flash its own recovery back unless you reflash and do everything in a specific order... I'm assuming there are no one-click root + recovery's?
Thanks all!
The person who wrote that guide was on acid. Just flash recovery with heimdall/odin, wipe system and data, and load up cyanogenmod. or flash supersu. whatever.
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rooting is quite straightforward:
flash clockworkmod recovery via odin
copu supersu to sdcard
reboot to recovery
flash supersu
then you can install titanium backup and debloat stock or install cyanogenmod (via clockworkmod)
if you have not unlocked it yet - do it as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892
this method works only on stock ics (4.04), if you are on stock jb (4.1.2) and not unlocked you must flash ics, unlock and then go back to stock jb or anything else you like.
i personally prefer debloated stock jb over cm nightlies for now (only my subjective opinion, it may change in future)
My own path is N900 -> Xperia Pro -> Captivate Glide and I'm seriously thinking about trading up to the Relay 4G.
So if you could share some of your experiences it would be very nice.
I'm mainly tired of the Glide because of the GPS, modem deep sleep and skype issues.
rad30n said:
My own path is N900 -> Xperia Pro -> Captivate Glide and I'm seriously thinking about trading up to the Relay 4G.
So if you could share some of your experiences it would be very nice.
I'm mainly tired of the Glide because of the GPS, modem deep sleep and skype issues.
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Well I don't want this to go to thread drift, but...what ROM are you on? Or are you using stock? The only reason I ask is because I've been considering buying BOTH the Glide and the Relay 4G. Both are pretty cheap on eBay, and brand new in the box. Plus, you never know when you'll need a spare phone...
If its that bad, well, I'll just stick with the Relay 4G. Everything I read about the phone seems awesome.
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Well I don't want this to go to thread drift, but...what ROM are you on? Or are you using stock? The only reason I ask is because I've been considering buying BOTH the Glide and the Relay 4G. Both are pretty cheap on eBay, and brand new in the box. Plus, you never know when you'll need a spare phone...
If its that bad, well, I'll just stick with the Relay 4G. Everything I read about the phone seems awesome.
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Relay has better support and is faster overall. I should've gone to it, instead of the Captivate Glide.
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Relay has better support and is faster overall. I should've gone to it, instead of the Captivate Glide.
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Oh I know, I just thought the Glide would make a great secondary/emergency phone. But the Relay 4G is between $200-250 on eBay, so maybe I'll just get two instead. :angel:
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Well I don't want this to go to thread drift, but...what ROM are you on? Or are you using stock? The only reason I ask is because I've been considering buying BOTH the Glide and the Relay 4G. Both are pretty cheap on eBay, and brand new in the box. Plus, you never know when you'll need a spare phone...
If its that bad, well, I'll just stick with the Relay 4G. Everything I read about the phone seems awesome.
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Stock is just awful on the Glide. I'm not a fan of the customizations that Samsung normally does on their roms, and ICS for the Captivate Glide is pretty awful. If you are used to stock android / CM its a huge step down. Plus, it's noticeably slower than the Gingerbread rom that shipped originally. The first time I booted the phone it was buttery smooth and it really wow'ed me. Then I immediately upgraded to ICS and the smoothness was gone.
As for ROM, I've been using spyke555's CM10.1.0 RC2 rom ever since I got the phone. I could try a newer one, but most of them seem to have the same issues as this one, just with a newer Android. I don't think this will ever get fixed. On the flipside, it is very very stable, and performs quite nicely.
How is your experience so far with the Relay?
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Stock is just awful on the Glide. I'm not a fan of the customizations that Samsung normally does on their roms, and ICS for the Captivate Glide is pretty awful. If you are used to stock android / CM its a huge step down. Plus, it's noticeably slower than the Gingerbread rom that shipped originally. The first time I booted the phone it was buttery smooth and it really wow'ed me. Then I immediately upgraded to ICS and the smoothness was gone.
As for ROM, I've been using spyke555's CM10.1.0 RC2 rom ever since I got the phone. I could try a newer one, but most of them seem to have the same issues as this one, just with a newer Android. I don't think this will ever get fixed. On the flipside, it is very very stable, and performs quite nicely.
How is your experience so far with the Relay?
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Oh I don't have one yet, I'm trying to time my purchasing the Relay 4G with my return trip to Mexico. Mexico only uses GSM phones (in the USA I have a CDMA phone, the Epic 4G), and I have an unlocked Gravity 2 phone, so I figure I'll go back with an Android this time. That brought me first to the Captivate Glide forums, and then here.
I remain impressed with the Relay 4G to the point I am constantly scratching my head as to why its not more popular than it is. The Captivate Glide...well you can buy them in abundance on eBay, brand new too, but they are officially discontinued. The Relay 4G isn't. I guess that should tell me something. lol
My biggest concern is bluetooth. While I love CM (even with the hit on battery life), I miss bluetooth. So I've already decided when I get the Relay 4G, I'm using stock all the way. I think/hope it'll get Kit Kat, so I should be fine. I'll just root it and keep moving.
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
berdo said:
~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
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All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him
A fun question. How many of us Sidekick 4G owners bought them to replace our rusty, err, trusty G1s? I get the feeling a lot of us made such a migration.
I held onto my G1 until last month, since I could find no other Android phone on the UMTS 1700 band with a keyboard so good. I just couldn't bear the thought of using a touch screen all day. When I saw the Sidekick's I knew I had to have one. And while I do miss that old workhorse, I've also enjoyed my time with the Sidekick. It's nice to finally have a current phone for once in my life!
I ended up selling that G1, cracked screen housing and all, to a friend for $50. Not only is it his first Android device, but also his first smart phone. With the addition of a new battery and a fresh ROM it should have another year or even two of life in it.
I had the G1 until I finally had an upgrade. Still have my trusty G1 just in case something magically goes wrong.
Didnt come straight from the g1 but had it when it first came out. I thought it was one of the cheapest built smartphones ive had but instead ended up being one of the toughest and survived many drops. i miss the g1's design. Im one of the few that thought it looked nice.
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A fun question. How many of us Sidekick 4G owners bought them to replace our rusty, err, trusty G1s? I get the feeling a lot of us made such a migration.
I held onto my G1 until last month, since I could find no other Android phone on the UMTS 1700 band with a keyboard so good. I just couldn't bear the thought of using a touch screen all day. When I saw the Sidekick's I knew I had to have one. And while I do miss that old workhorse, I've also enjoyed my time with the Sidekick. It's nice to finally have a current phone for once in my life!
I ended up selling that G1, cracked screen housing and all, to a friend for $50. Not only is it his first Android device, but also his first smart phone. With the addition of a new battery and a fresh ROM it should have another year or even two of life in it.
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I'm seriously thinking about buying this phone... I miss my G1's kb, I've been putzing along with the og Droid for a couple years (I was living in the states). Now that I'm back in Canada, I need a replacement. I'm not thrilled with the lack of decent camera, but that sweet sweet keyboard looks oh so nice. I do a lot of remote server admin and so the keyboard is a big deal for me.
Are the ROMs any good? I don't need the fancy crap it looks like they've piled on top, just a standard type Android UI would be nice for me.
Failing this I'd probably get the Milestone/Droid 3, but it's been getting kinda meh reviews.
The ROMs aren't bad, we're still improving each release, but they're much better than stock. Not sure exactly what you like in a ROM, but as far as Froyo Touchwiz goes, these are pretty solid. If you do happen to get this phone and find that the ROM selection isn't what you are looking for, PM me and we'll see what we can do to get a ROM made that fits your desires.
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The ROMs aren't bad, we're still improving each release, but they're much better than stock. Not sure exactly what you like in a ROM, but as far as Froyo Touchwiz goes, these are pretty solid. If you do happen to get this phone and find that the ROM selection isn't what you are looking for, PM me and we'll see what we can do to get a ROM made that fits your desires.
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Thanks, that's very generous of you! Really all I want is to use the phone as a palmtop computer... browser, email, SSH, etc. I don't care much about eye candy or special effects, speed and efficiency are my main concerns. Not so much concerned with it as a social media platform either as an IT consultant's accessory Oh, and Google Navigation!
To give you an idea, here's my apps:
ConnectBot
AndroidVNC
ES File Explorer
Files Anywhere
K-9 Mail
PdaNet
QR Droid
Wifi Analyzer
SipDroid
Skype
Remote Web Desktop
Square
SwiftKeyX
etc
Didn't come directly from a g1 but I bought the g1 the first day it came out, had it until cyanogen stopped supporting it, and then tried out several different phones and none of them satisfied me. I could never get used to an all touchscreen device and most keyboards were very lacking. The sidekick has the best keyboard I have ever used, I like it better than the g1's. I still keep my g1 and use it for a bluetooth keyboard on my ipad/ps3 since blueputdroid doesn't support samsung's bluetooth drivers for some reason.
Sounds just like me! I work in IT as well and use most of those apps as well, and as far as i've found, there's no issues with them, and the keyboard is an IT person's best friend.
I'm getting the Sidekick in a couple days. Coming from the Mytouch 1.2 I have a couple roms I developed in the G1 section. I was wondering if and why there is no Gingerbread for Sidekick? Just curious. Also does anyone know if CM will support it? Thanks. I'm new to the Sidekick.
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There's no gingerbread for it because there's no gingerbread source. CM probably won't officially support it, as CM doesn't officially support anything Samsung other than the Galaxy S. When we get the GB source, someone (probably me) will at least try porting an unofficial CM7, but until we get the source, there's no efficient way to port it.
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There's no gingerbread for it because there's no gingerbread source. CM probably won't officially support it, as CM doesn't officially support anything Samsung other than the Galaxy S. When we get the GB source, someone (probably me) will at least try porting an unofficial CM7, but until we get the source, there's no efficient way to port it.
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So Samsung wont release the source. I hope it gets released soon. If so I'd like to work with you to get a CM ROM going for it. I have two CM7 Roms in the G1 Development forums.
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Also can anyone brush me up on ODIN, and Voodoo?
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Odin flashes firmware like fastboot does for HTC phones (kind of).
Odin is used to restore to stock from any state other than a hard brick. It just restores system images to the partitions.
Voodoo is the set of tweaks commonly used to implement the Lagfix, aka EXT4 partitions. Voodoo ClockworkMod recovery is Red, and is implemented in the Bali kernel.
I would be open to working with you on it, as I am for most people on most projects, let me know if you ever wanna work on anything together.
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Odin flashes firmware like fastboot does for HTC phones (kind of).
Odin is used to restore to stock from any state other than a hard brick. It just restores system images to the partitions.
Voodoo is the set of tweaks commonly used to implement the Lagfix, aka EXT4 partitions. Voodoo ClockworkMod recovery is Red, and is implemented in the Bali kernel.
I would be open to working with you on it, as I am for most people on most projects, let me know if you ever wanna work on anything together.
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Sounds great. Thanks for the info. I kinda new but wanted to be sure. Ill be glued to Google for a bit to educate myself on the Sidekick.
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There's no gingerbread for it because there's no gingerbread source. CM probably won't officially support it, as CM doesn't officially support anything Samsung other than the Galaxy S. When we get the GB source, someone (probably me) will at least try porting an unofficial CM7, but until we get the source, there's no efficient way to port it.
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what about cm6... Not the most recent but still good
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Working on it, has some major compiling issues.
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Working on it, has some major compiling issues.
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Will wait for it... Good luck and thanks for not leaving
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what about cm6... Not the most recent but still good
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I'd be happy with that for now.
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Hi all,
I need a bit of advice. My wife and I have had the Captivate since this time last year. We came over from the iPhone 3G to the Captivate and loved the amount of tweaking you could do. From the beginning, I went through 4 phones in the first month with the random shut down issue, but my Wife's was fine for the first six months she had it. She is on her second Captivate now and is having problem after problem. Alarms not going off, random shut downs, wi-fi not turning on/off, phone won't dial a number and won't hang up when you try to end the call, phone takes for ever to start up on a reboot, drops network and won't reconnect without re-starting and so on. Needless to say she is pretty frustrated with it and wants to get something different and is leaning back to the iPhone. I am having some issues with mine all similar to what she is having, but not nearly as often. We are both running the stock Froyo, but rooted.
I have a few questions:
1. Would you suspect this to be a problem with the hardware or something maybe a ROM could fix? If a ROM could fix it, any suggestions for a reliable ROM? (I've flashed ROM's in the past to mess around, but haven't kept up with them in over a year.)
2. Is this a common problem with Android (i.e. not reliable)?
3. If it isn't a common problem of Android not being reliable, what other new Android phones from AT&T are good.
Sorry for all of the questions, and thanks for any input.
Dave
I've been on custom ROMs for a long time now, and I've noticed that they are often faster, have better battery life and depending on the ROM you choose, can be more reliable than stock. I'd give it a try, since worst case, you can go back to stock or trade the phone in anyway.
I'm currently using the Illuminance ROM and it is very good. Pretty reliable, fast and excellent battery life.
Other older roms that I've used are Pinnacle and Cognition. All 3 of these offer a smooth stock experience that's not too flashy with radical themes or anything.
Good luck!
1. ask yourself this questions do u like tweaking stuff, if so go with android. else apple or windows
2. i have captivate for about 15 months now, i have never had random shutdown issues, so random shutdown could be mostly software related. I'm running cyanogen7 and its like new phone altogether. pure android experience
3. new android phones that are coming out are much stable than the older phones, bcoz phones like captivate have been rushed to market to survive the Apples rally.
if u want pure android experience go the Galaxy nexus (the latest android from Google). with google phones u can be assured that your os will upgraded as soon as Google releases latest OS. i have heard pretty good reviews about Ice Cream sandwich
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A clean install of a hot new ROM will give it new life. It shouldn't be unstable though. Maybe it's all the bloatware and apps installed or some files got corrupted. Backup first but try not to reinstall as much as possible if you go with a new ROM. No system data should be restored on a different version anyway.
If your due an upgrade do so and do some research on new phones as far as fixing problems the cappys always have had minor issues a new rom with a clean install works cm7 or cognition
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Cm7's battery life is garbage. The cm team themselves will admit that. It doesn't contain the proper hardware drivers from Samsung. you guys might want to mention that before suggesting that to a noob...
op Sounds those problems sound all software related. I would flash a leaked gingerbread stock firmware as a baseline, then if all is good you could stick with that or flash a custom gingerbread ROM over that if you wanted a more tweaked experience.
Agree with what the others have said... try upgrading to a Gingerbread ROM. There are several out there, most all of the JVT ones are very mature and stable. The latest KK4 ones are pretty nice as well but just being released so maybe not the best 1st choice.
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I have to say, the GB roms lack of stability is directly related to the lack of source code for the captivate gingerbread rom.
If you are looking for a stable Froyo experience go with Andromeda3. Ive been on it for months now and really have enjoyed it.
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
If you like the stock GB ROM, you'll love Illuminance 3.0--very fast, great battery life, and smooth.
Or try pinnacle 1.3 close to stock, fast, and great battery life.
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Agreed about Pinnacle--very reliable and a favorite of many.
You might also want to give a try with cyanogenmod 7, I liked it more than other roms. But it may depend on your choice. Thats the beauty of android, you have choices and most of them won't let you down.
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First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Great, happy you've found your answer.
Hey everyone I am possible coming over from the G2x, someone on craigslist offered to even trade me for a perfect condition gs4g, I used to own the vibrant and liked it, seems like there are not as many custom roms as the vibrant, or an ics build, just wondering if this would be a good trade, knowing all the bugs the G2x has.
I own a Vibrant also plus a sgs4g and I really like the 4g alot. You are correct that there aren't as many roms to choose from, but the ones we do have are awesome.
+1 to that. Our few devs are great at what they do.
Go for it. I picked up a g2x a few months back. Used it for a couple months and came back to my sgs4g. The galaxy is a far superior device in every way, except the processor. And the g2x is to much of a headache to make that very slight speed difference worth it.
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If you like to have many options with flashing stuff like kernels and roms, then don't. If you like what you see here, then yes. I would sell that G2X and get some money to get a GS2. Nuff' said. This phone is a pain when it comes to hacking.
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i wouldn't recommend it, i currently am using this and looking to get rid of it, it crashes on me and has to restarted once in 3 days, also i see no signs of android 4.0 coming to this. I'm trying to get the mytouch4g as there is hope for ICS on it (and it has more memory)
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i wouldn't recommend it, i currently am using this and looking to get rid of it, it crashes on me and has to restarted once in 3 days, also i see no signs of android 4.0 coming to this. I'm trying to get the mytouch4g as there is hope for ICS on it (and it has more memory)
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That's strange - my SGS 4G doesn't crash on me and reboots have been dealt with... and I see better ROM's coming than ICS. I wonder if it is user error
I have both and can honestly say that g2x is wayyy better... the best roms for the galaxy like ravers are not even close to stability or performance of eaglesblood or Hellfire roms for the g2x. And its also officially supported by cyanogen which is nice to have an actual cm7 and cm9 rom . so if your having issues with the g2x I'd look closer at the forums those old stability issues with the lg software are long gone and you can have a phone that kills the sgs2 in all benchmarks. I'm getting a 5200 in quadrant and can get about a day and a half of decent use.
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Hey Guys, this is my first post. I own a SGS4G and I think its a pretty cool phone. I have flashed to a bunch of different ROMS and I have had very little problems with any of them. The biggest problem I have ever ran into was finding the right modem that would switch from Wifi to the Tmobile network properly but the KI3 seems to have taken care of that (running on day 2).
I almost went with the G2 and I probably would have if Tmobile didnt have a really good deal for the SGS4G... but I am very happy with my choice.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S 4G
Firmware: 2.3.7
Base: T959VUVKJ6
Kernal: 2.6.35.7-sms-kj6-v01.1.1-rc1+
Build: Gingerbread.VUVKJ6
Mod: Valhalla-BlackEdition-Stock/CyanogenMod-7.1
+Valhalla-Black-Booster
Modem: KI3
I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
Thanks
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I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
Thanks
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the experience is overall good i guess..
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nubreed000 said:
I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
Thanks
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Rooting the LTE is very easy. There are a few ROMs available, but at present (in my case) the have too many significant bugs - wifi only works on some routers, RAM freezes after a couple of days use.
Carbon and CM are very stable except for the above two bugs for me. But others users are either having no problems or different ones.
SlimKat has just been added to the official page so hopefully they'll get that up and running but it currently just bootloops for me.
It works out alright I guess at least on CM and Carbon (same core dev). Be warned, if you are on 4.4.4 you won't be able to return to stock since there is no image file out there. Downgrading to 4.4.3 is not possible as far as I know.
Slim also just came out with a first build of peregrine. Works pretty well so far, but does not yet support moving apps to the SD card ... next build or two hopefully. The phone only came out in June, so the work is still in progress.