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[Q]CM7 for SK4g

Hey guys,
I have a full upgrade coming on Tuesday (7-5) and have been doing a lot of research on what phone I want. I have it narrowed to the SK4g and waiting a little longer for the mt4g slide.
My burning question is does anyone know the status of porting CyanogenMod to the Sidekick?
If there were any progress on that, it would make it a no brainer since the combo of the physical keyboard, basic internal hardware stats, and the right price + CM7 would make it a near perfect for me phone.
I have asked on the CM forums, and googled it but cannot find an answer. I know bburke has mentioned it so I figured to ask here and see.
Thanks in Advance!
WolfePakT

Well to answer your question wolfepakt, Its a work in progress. Its been less than a month since we were gifted CWM(amazing work Krylon360!), and the "Smooth Maximus" rom serious (Major thanks to AyoTeddy!). With what little knowledge i know of about CM7, I believe there needs to be a gingerbread leak for our device or a device closely related (epic 4g i think is the closest). But what we really need is a couple more devs to work on it. Ayoteddy (smooth maximus), Dr.Honk(Bali Kernal's) and Krylon360 (CWM) can only do so much on their own. If you know of some devs that would help us port it, our phone could see the gingery goodness!

Did some more looking on CM wiki and found one small tidbit at the very bottom of this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_FAQ
There is no maintainer but the sk is not to far from the galaxy S line.

wolfepakt said:
Did some more looking on CM wiki and found one small tidbit at the very bottom of this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_FAQ
There is no maintainer but the sk is not to far from the galaxy S line.
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Its close as far as hardware is concerned, but I'd like to ask you to look at the clock work mod thread so you can see the real differences.

Will do. Have been reading a lot in the last week or two!

There are tons of useful pages, some of which should be stickies but aren't. If you need anything just ask brother.
p.s. If you look at the phones i have posted in my signature, My current setup blows them all away. Ayoteddy and Dr.Honk did a magnificent piece of work with the smooth maximus rom.

Good deal!
I don't change my phone every three months like some people, so I want something that I will be happy with for a long time.
I had my Dash for almost two years, have had the highlight for over a year.
Have has good luck with both Samsung and HTC!

wolfepakt said:
Good deal!
I don't change my phone every three months like some people, so I want something that I will be happy with for a long time.
I had my Dash for almost two years, have had the highlight for over a year.
Have has good luck with both Samsung and HTC!
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I am trying to work on getting a cm7 port, but not much progress so far. If you like having tons of ROM choices, id go with the mt4g slide, but nonetheless, the sk4g is a good phone.
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bburke88 said:
I am trying to work on getting a cm7 port, but not much progress so far. If you like having tons of ROM choices, id go with the mt4g slide, but nonetheless, the sk4g is a good phone.
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There are two things making me want to go SK:
1. The price is reasonable,
2, The keyboard is bigger (5 row, looks more 'bigger hand" friendly)
4g slide has the dual core processor, more ram, etc.
I really don't care about the camera!
Either one will get a 16 gig sd card, so that doesn't really matter to me.
(I wanted a g2, but tmo sent it to a premature grave!)
All that being said I will most likely go with the SK, but I am gonna wait till the slide comes out and call Tmo Loyalty and see what they can do for me!

i have a G2 and the SK4G, and at first, when we had only stock for the SK4G, i preferred my G2, as the development for the device is truly amazing. but now, with the Smooth Maximus ROM and Bali kernel, I've been using my Sidekick. CM7 or AOSP would be amazing, but to me, we have it good already! i think Samsung knocked it out of the park with the physical design, and yeah, the keyboard is awesome, best i have ever used on a smartphone. i think i could use this phone for a long time myself.

yogi2010 said:
i have a G2 and the SK4G, and at first, when we had only stock for the SK4G, i preferred my G2, as the development for the device is truly amazing. but now, with the Smooth Maximus ROM and Bali kernel, I've been using my Sidekick. CM7 or AOSP would be amazing, but to me, we have it good already! i think Samsung knocked it out of the park with the physical design, and yeah, the keyboard is awesome, best i have ever used on a smartphone. i think i could use this phone for a long time myself.
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Great info yogi!
Doing more research tells me that the diffs between froyo and gingerbread are nice but a lot of it is similar in the bali kernel on smX. I still am leaning to SK and getting more convinced each day. I wish I had the time to devote to learning the info to build kernels so I could help DEV and work on OC kernels etc. I have used Linux for years, but between working 40+ a week and a family that we Homeschool, time for stuff like that is on the low side!
I never got into having the top of the line tech as it outdated to quickly to justify the price! However as a geek by nature, I frequently drool over TOTL!
I have downloaded the kernel source from samsung and will dig into it tonight at work! (Love OT!!!) I hope that it is well commented!

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I have downloaded the kernel source from samsung and will dig into it tonight at work! (Love OT!!!) I hope that it is well commented!
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let me know how it goes with the kernel. I have been trying to build it for practice.... the Bali kernel seemed to build easily for me, but I am a bit stuck on the stock kernel for some reason.
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I'm slowly working on porting CM7/AOSP 2.3, just getting around to some more work on it, but currently have to completely rebuild, as GB requires a different init.rc haha. I've built both the bali kernel and the stock kernel, so if you have some questions yogi, I can possiblly help you out, just pm me or find me, you know where I hang out.

hey sduvick have you made any progress?

I'd drop a <Donate Monetarily> to this cause, as I have for WiFi-Tether, Bugless beast, and Cyanogen in the past...
The default double lock screen is a major hindrance for daily use with stock and the only viable alternative right now.

Giving up on the sidekick

I hate to say it but through the past year I've seen this thread explode then burn fizzle and slowly die.
There hasn't been any "new" development for this phone since mid year and it doesn't look like we will ever get gingerbread or any real interest in this phone from any hardcore developers. T-Mobile failed in ressurecting the sidekick imho it started off good but it quickly became a novelty and they just brushed it under the carpet. Even going so far as to not do exchanges on devices with known problems.
I love the sidekick line for the design of the phone and the full keyboard and basic reliability of the design. For those who don't know the company who designed and built the original sidekick phones "Sharp" came out with a new phone on at&t that looks similar to the older sidekick designs. Its also touch screen and has android. I havnt really looked at the specs on it tho. Just know it exists.
For now ill use this phone till it falls apart only because I can't afford a new one and T-Mobile has me by the balls on contract :-/ untill there's some kind of breakthrough with this phone I think I'm done posting on here till I get my next android device.
Id like to thank those who deserve it for helping me and the community
Ay0teddy, sduvik, xmeatizmurderx and even revolution for his efforts in trying to keep things going.
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yeah iv seen that phone by sharp, the sharp fx. i immedietly thought of the old sidekick slide. i agree with you though kinda sucks, but im just glad we have any devs at all.

Actually the sidekick slide was the only one not made by sharp it was made by motorola.
yoyowhatup22 said:
yeah iv seen that phone by sharp, the sharp fx. i immedietly thought of the old sidekick slide. i agree with you though kinda sucks, but im just glad we have any devs at all.
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The sidekick was my first android phone an I am sad that more devs haven't seen this phone as the new G1 but at the same time i'm happy with the devs we have that are trying to learn new things an make better roms for our phones. I myself am also on contract with tmobile so it will be a while before i can upgrade my sidekick for another phone (maybe a galaxy note even if it means no 3g or 4g) Currently for stability i've been using a spare xperia x10 mini pro (loaded with miniCMpro an phone cost me $125 after shipping) an its a breath of fresh air not having the phone reboot at random or fcing in the background without showing whats going wrong though i do miss having least 2g speeds (running on edge on this phone) but I do hope one day the devs we have or a new one finds a way to bring our phone from being a unloved child to being a phone to be desired

hey
yea i got rid of my sidekick 4g i have a galaxy s device now and im loveing it the way i did was called tmobile and demanded that i speak to the loyalty department and demanded a new phone because of the issues or i was leaving and they basically gave me a 600 dollar phone for 99.99 dollars 50 rebate and theirs a lot of dev going on for this phone that i got now you can take the warranty route and exchange your device three times than get another device free its called warranty exchange and since its a 4g phone you have the option of getting another 4g phone but they choose it for u its overnight shipping so you basically HAVE to have insurrance in order for it to be 5 bucks with each exchange or otherwise you pay 20 bucks for each exchange without insurrance if it all works out go to gazelle.com and sell your sidekick they gave me 80 for it

Bye. Can't say I care.

orange808 said:
Bye. Can't say I care.
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Hey, at least he/she thanked the devs... it might have taken a page and a half to get there, with a review of opinions everyone has already said and/or read.
I must admit though, I do feel that the earth stopped rotating for a moment upon this announcement. hehehe
i kid-i kid

While development and upgrades to Gingerbread may be non-existant (for now), the users on this community have brought out the best in my phone. I had the same outlook as you did soon after buying this phone and seeing that there wasn't a) A gingerbread update already available (seeing as how the phone was released in March and I got mine last month), and b) It didn't look like Gingerbread or ICS weren't going to be available anytime in the near future. Even with Fryo this phone still has a lot to offer. Revolution's ICS Domination ROM gave my phone new life and a new modem brought my down/up speeds up exponentialy.
I have hope that eventually we will see a Gingerbread update (or even ICS) since this phones specs aren't too differnt from that of the Nexus S. But if not, I'm still glad I chose to get a Sidekick one last time.

I'm giving up too we just gotta wait the devs got our bacl!
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Once we get gingerbread , i'll be working on ICS .

Once again I look on xda and find a small amount of dev work being done I'm glad people still are holding on to this device. It makes me happy. I came back after this post for a brief time because of new roms but wound up going back to an older rom after difficulties. I know most of you left here are new to this device but I wanted to let everyone know once again I'm leaving my sk4g. I will be moving to the HTC Amaze 4g forums one of my good friends got a new rezound and let me have her amaze for free ^_^ once I root it I will be switching my daily driver to that. I hope to see this phone someday get the respect it should have from the inital release. Thank you to all devs who prooved that this phone wasn't just a little toy for text addicted teens and actually could have been brought to greatness if it weren't for t-mobile dropping support. Also if we ever get gingerbread, ice cream sandwich or jellybean to run on the sk4g would someone please pm me and let me know I would love to see it ^_^ untill then goodbye all and once again a big thanx to all the devs who keep this section of xda from going into the inactive threads pile with all other discontinued phones ^_^
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azcledel said:
Once again I look on xda and find a small amount of dev work being done I'm glad people still are holding on to this device. It makes me happy. I came back after this post for a brief time because of new roms but wound up going back to an older rom after difficulties. I know most of you left here are new to this device but I wanted to let everyone know once again I'm leaving my sk4g. I will be moving to the HTC Amaze 4g forums one of my good friends got a new rezound and let me have her amaze for free ^_^ once I root it I will be switching my daily driver to that. I hope to see this phone someday get the respect it should have from the inital release. Thank you to all devs who prooved that this phone wasn't just a little toy for text addicted teens and actually could have been brought to greatness if it weren't for t-mobile dropping support. Also if we ever get gingerbread, ice cream sandwich or jellybean to run on the sk4g would someone please pm me and let me know I would love to see it ^_^ untill then goodbye all and once again a big thanx to all the devs who keep this section of xda from going into the inactive threads pile with all other discontinued phones ^_^
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No problem. I myself have switched DD's, but still support this phone highly. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck. The SGSII is an amazing phone, and I hope the Amaze4G is just as well. If you're finally done with the SK4G, you could look into sending it do bhundven as he is a recognized developer as such I'm sure he can do wonderful things and teach us things we never knew. After he's done creating and testing and he gets his own (soon) he will send it back. Please get in contact with him.
If I at any point decide to leave the SK4G (which isn't in my immediate future but who knows) I will send it to the developer who DOES NOT have one or is not capable of getting one -- to keep.

TheLastSidekick said:
No problem. I myself have switched DD's, but still support this phone highly. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck. The SGSII is an amazing phone, and I hope the Amaze4G is just as well. If you're finally done with the SK4G, you could look into sending it do bhundven as he is a recognized developer as such I'm sure he can do wonderful things and teach us things we never knew. After he's done creating and testing and he gets his own (soon) he will send it back. Please get in contact with him.
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TLS, that was very nice to ask that! If azcledel feels that he does not want to "give up" his sk4g, but instead loan it to me for 2 weeks, I would be happy to pay shipping to and from me.
The device would be returned in the same condition as I received it.
TheLastSidekick said:
If I at any point decide to leave the SK4G (which isn't in my immediate future but who knows) I will send it to the developer who DOES NOT have one or is not capable of getting one -- to keep.
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The question goes to you as well, If you are using your sgs2 as your DD, why not send me yours?
You will get it back in two weeks, and possibly have cm7 or better running on it

bhundven said:
TLS, that was very nice to ask that! If azcledel feels that he does not want to "give up" his sk4g, but instead loan it to me for 2 weeks, I would be happy to pay shipping to and from me.
The device would be returned in the same condition as I received it.
The question goes to you as well, If you are using your sgs2 as your DD, why not send me yours?
You will get it back in two weeks, and possibly have cm7 or better running on it
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I would gladly if you were to pay shipping (I'm a broke ass college student with no job) haha. You ARE a recognized developer. I trust you.
PM me on here if you're up for it. I'm going to be at college nearly all day so I won't be able to even send it at least until tomorrow. (My day off).

I will concider sending it once I get access to a pc to root my amaze but I'm not sure I want to give it up yet the amaze is a dual core running a fresh stock ics 4.0.3 with sense 3.6 it all depends on what I can do to it and how I like it. I don't like not having a full querty keyboard but the touch screen issues and lack of ram on the sk4g is why I am concidering switching in the first place also the "free" part helped a lot lol I'm broke myself and cant afford to upgrade. Who knows I may switch back to the sk4g and sell the amaze idk yet but will definetly keep it in mind.
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azcledel said:
I will concider sending it once I get access to a pc to root my amaze but I'm not sure I want to give it up yet the amaze is a dual core running a fresh stock ics 4.0.3 with sense 3.6 it all depends on what I can do to it and how I like it. I don't like not having a full querty keyboard but the touch screen issues and lack of ram on the sk4g is why I am concidering switching in the first place also the "free" part helped a lot lol I'm broke myself and cant afford to upgrade. Who knows I may switch back to the sk4g and sell the amaze idk yet but will definetly keep it in mind.
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Woah! Don't sell the Amaze 4G, it's..well...amazing! But yeah, just because it's 4.0.3 doesn't mean anything. You can find stable builds of 4.0.4 and 4.1.1 with Sense UI removed -- (if you want it that way) I got my GS II and like, 3 days later 4.0.4 officially came out with a newer radio too. But yeah, I understand the feeling of not wanting to consider dropping the SK4G in anyway (after all, it was and is my first Android smartphone and the first for which I've maintained a ROM for...) regardless, I'll admit to only buying the phone for 2 reasons...I was a teenager when the Sidekick was BOOMING around middle school and high school, and the price was so damn budget I had to get it.

Well so far I'm digging the amaze still hate not having a 5 row physical keyboard but the dev teams seem pretty informed we have ppl working on porting cyanogen mod 10 and jellybean. Right now I'm running a Rom with 4.0.3 had one running 4.0.4 but had problems sending/RECEIVING mms so I SWITCHED back. Ics is awesome but way different than gingerbread and our Frito that we've been plagued with. Just felt like updating you guys seeing as this is where my whole xda/android experience started. Here's a couple screen shots of the Rom I'm currently running.
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azcledel said:
Well so far I'm digging the amaze still hate not having a 5 row physical keyboard but the dev teams seem pretty informed we have ppl working on porting cyanogen mod 10 and jellybean. Right now I'm running a Rom with 4.0.3 had one running 4.0.4 but had problems sending/RECEIVING mms so I SWITCHED back. Ics is awesome but way different than gingerbread and our Frito that we've been plagued with. Just felt like updating you guys seeing as this is where my whole xda/android experience started. Here's a couple screen shots of the Rom I'm currently running.
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Lol yeah we're pretty much in the sameboat. I love my phone, we have an almost done version of CM10 / AOKP Jelly Bean ported.

Goodbye sk4g lol its over in my book. The devs over on the HTC Amaze 4G section got CM10 working with data today jellybean is soooo smooth. I'm never going back to the sk4g now. Tho if CM 7 gets up and working I will break it out just to update it. Good luck guys I'll still check here every now and then tho.
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azcledel said:
Goodbye sk4g lol its over in my book. The devs over on the HTC Amaze 4G section got CM10 working with data today
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What's the point of comparing QWERTY Sidekick with a typical touchphone?.. There are over 9000 of them, many with JB.

Why did i ever trade?!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678524
well, the mytouch 4g now has a almost completely fully functioning JB ROM and the g2x has a half-assed alpha test (sorry, EB team, not trying to belittle your work). grrrr. bout to go trade for a 4g slide. what really eats me, is that the G2x is a superior phone hardware wise to most phones even now. and definitively better than the mytouch. I feel the g2x community has fallen apart and due to that, there will never be a completely functional well.....anything. we should be all working together to iron out the wrinkles in JB not fighting over who developed what first or who can or cant use what code....I'm sorry, but who gives a flying f*** about the code when nothing since froyo has actually been 100% stable and functional on our devices?
im sorry, im just a bit meeved that i traded now. the reason why is in the specs of our phone:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/T-Mobile-G2x-vs-T-Mobile-myTouch-4G
and the state of our community as G2x owners:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784980
I'm sure i'll be flamed, shunned, and burned for this thread but i really dont care. i like my G2x despite its many downfalls. i want to see it prosper and run JB and other future versions of android.
thanks for reading.
/rant

Stop whining and try doing some of the work yourself.
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alrighty, teach me to code than. lol

Learning to do some of this coding for the G2x is what I am trying to research now. Just have to keep reading and start playing around. I am way behind the other developers here and I'm not going to learn as fast as I want to but I will try because I love this phone.
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Trade it back for mytouch. G2x won't be getting ICS love anytime soon.
Btw, we have very stable GB roms all over the dev forums. What are you talking about? regarding froyo.
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Trade it back for mytouch. G2x won't be getting ICS love anytime soon.
Btw, we have very stable GB roms all over the dev forums. What are you talking about? regarding froyo.

I don't know what to say, for starters, ur a heat fan so u should get flamed just for that . Everything else, no comment
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i havent seen a rooted rom (aside stock rom) with everything 100% like BT calling with new baseband for instance. ICS has the same issue plus missing camcorder drivers.

moeahmad1995 said:
I don't know what to say, for starters, ur a heat fan so u should get flamed just for that . Everything else, no comment
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Lebron and the heat whooped the **** outta OKC. lol

Calm down, the bobcats can beat the heat
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BuddhaTeh1337 said:
i havent seen a rooted rom (aside stock rom) with everything 100% like BT calling with new baseband for instance. ICS has the same issue plus missing camcorder drivers.
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Using the old baseband I have been 100% stable since I first got the g2x... everything works perfectly (aside from slow gps but it still works)
HFP, CM7, and CM7.2 just to name a few have no bugs other than user error which as we all know can't be fixed (because you just can't fix stupid)
I do understand where your coming from however your "facts" are a little skewed.
Good luck with the coding, I hope you will be the next great Dev!
Pin it to Win it.

Even though I don't use my G2X as my main phone anymore, it is my go to device as my tablet device. I know I don't have a tablet, but when I need to read news, stream videos, read emails, do all sorts of things, the G2X is my go to device. Hands down CM7 is solid and stable. I do need to reboot it a couple of times a week but I'm not stressed about it.
I've not updated the BB mainly because of the ROMs needing a special modification, and lose access to all the previous ROMs.
I don't care really. I want to use the ICS ROMs but they have bugs. Again all the hate goes to LG. Devs do best they can with little they do have access to.
I have the Galaxy S2, Amaze, and G2X. Hands down, my go to device is my G2X when I am home and in WiFi range. Its faster and snappier. What a waste LG did. Even display is better than the Amaze. It really pisses me off that HTC went cheap on the Amaze's display.
I use the GS2 now because it's got a stable CM9, and honestly detested the Stock ROM. If G2X had a stable CM9 (Full Support with Drivers and everything) and the GPS issue was reliable, I swear I'd go back to my G2X as my main device.
As for reliability is concerned, GS2 and Amaze hands down. Again, pisses me off LG screwed this phone royally.

moeahmad1995 said:
Calm down, the bobcats can beat the heat
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you sir....are wrong.
I.R.Chevy said:
Using the old baseband I have been 100% stable since I first got the g2x... everything works perfectly (aside from slow gps but it still works)
HFP, CM7, and CM7.2 just to name a few have no bugs other than user error which as we all know can't be fixed (because you just can't fix stupid)
I do understand where your coming from however your "facts" are a little skewed.
Good luck with the coding, I hope you will be the next great Dev!
Pin it to Win it.
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yeah. i needs my GPS, thats a game changer for me. im still reading all the stuff that CM suggests before doing anything. baby steps. gonna try and compile a new APK before i take on a ROM.
vmartinez39 said:
Even though I don't use my G2X as my main phone anymore, it is my go to device as my tablet device. I know I don't have a tablet, but when I need to read news, stream videos, read emails, do all sorts of things, the G2X is my go to device. Hands down CM7 is solid and stable. I do need to reboot it a couple of times a week but I'm not stressed about it.
I've not updated the BB mainly because of the ROMs needing a special modification, and lose access to all the previous ROMs.
I don't care really. I want to use the ICS ROMs but they have bugs. Again all the hate goes to LG. Devs do best they can with little they do have access to.
I have the Galaxy S2, Amaze, and G2X. Hands down, my go to device is my G2X when I am home and in WiFi range. Its faster and snappier. What a waste LG did. Even display is better than the Amaze. It really pisses me off that HTC went cheap on the Amaze's display.
I use the GS2 now because it's got a stable CM9, and honestly detested the Stock ROM. If G2X had a stable CM9 (Full Support with Drivers and everything) and the GPS issue was reliable, I swear I'd go back to my G2X as my main device.
As for reliability is concerned, GS2 and Amaze hands down. Again, pisses me off LG screwed this phone royally.
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thats exactly what i was saying. this is the best phone i have ever owned hardware wise. Yes, this is mostly Nvidia & LG's fault, but its still frustrating. my fiancee just got the blaze and its ok. its pretty snappy, but when my G2x is on stock rom, it stomps it... no questions asked. and yeah, the GPS bug is what i was talking abot from pre v21y. also, it is really a pain in the a$$ just to figure out how to downgrade basebands, let alone actually do it. alas, the g2x is my daily driver so i need it to preform well and be stable. that means i need bluetooth calling, working GPS, MMS, all that.

Yeah... Can't argue with you there. The G2x is a POS. I traded my MT4G for this phone too, while I don't really regret it since I got more money once I sold the G2x, the MT4G was far more reliable and every ROM just worked on it.
Either way, it was a lesson learned to never buy another LG phone no matter what the specs are. Samsung and HTC is the way to go from now on. Or better yet, Nexus!

mackster248 said:
The G2x is a POS.
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Disagree. Gingerbread 2.3.3 stunk on the G2x, and Nvidia's policy of keeping its drivers "closed-source" sucks!
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Or better yet, Nexus!
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Strongly agree! For $350, I know what I'd buy in a second if my G2x took a crap on me. Still, considering my 2 year contract came with a "free" G2x on each line nearly a year ago - I am not complaining. By the way, stock based 2.3.4 Gingerbread ROMs define stable for me (Thanks Kwes and Buru). However, I suppose I like a little instability in my life though since I married a woman?!? and use CM7 ROMs!?!:silly:

i've been seriously condsidering getting a loan and buying a nexus, than cancelling with t-mobile lol it'd probably be cheaper in the long run.

It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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redmonke255 said:
It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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redmonke255 said:
It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/259660/googles_16gb_nexus_7_disappears_from_play_store.html
cant. and it doesnt have an sd slot. thats BS. wtf???

Try the paranoid android rom. Its a surprisingly good ICS ROM.
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xeroy said:
Try the paranoid android rom. Its a surprisingly good ICS ROM.
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check my sig. lol
and its ICS so i got google now on that ishhh. i wish we could get stock voice search though. the workaround blows.

The Samsung Captivate - what a phone!

Two years ago, I got my first real taste of android from a friend who had a Motorola droid 2. I knew I wanted to get an android phone, and being on AT&T, the Captivate was the best phone out there. I tested it out inside the store and knew it was the phone for me. Having done my research, I knew about Samsung's pretty terrible update history which made me nervous, but I decided to go for it anyway.
Needless to say, of course samsung managed to take nearly a year to update the captovate, released on 2.1 eclair, to 2.2 froyo. I was very annoyed with samsung and started researching ways to get the update sooner. I read about rooting, but I decided against it because things seemed to work fine on the phone.
It took a while to get the courage, but I finally rooted my captivate after I was on froyo. I was surprised at how easy it was (thank you no locked bootloaders ). I started reading of roms and had no idea what they were, and the more I read about them the more confused I became with terms like kernels and modems. By the time gingerbread came out by samsung, I still hadn't learned enough about roms and simply updated through Kies Mini. I had to go through the rooting process again, and learned how to use Odin and flashed my first kernel (although I was clueless what it was).
Eventually I found that ics was released and developed on xda and knew I wanted to get it. I finally flashed my first rom after figuring out how to get cwm on the cappy. I was surprised to be getting ics so soon - especially after samsung officially said the cappy wouldn't get the update. Either samsung is just lazy or stupid if they thought the cappy couldn't handle ics. I learned about kernels and cwm and roms and eventually felt comfortable with it all for once.
Now, running the new JellyBean, I can say I am truly impressed with how far this this phone has made it. My iPod touch 2g was basically obsolete after a year and a half to 2 years. It lost support for apps and ios updates. But this wicked phone doesn't stop. It's running JellyBean, and thanks to the awesome devs on XDA, I'm sure it will get the next few android updates!
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Unfortunately, I will be leaving AT&T in a few months, and will likely get the HTC evo V 4G on VM (prepaid). I will miss the XDA support and the awesome developers. Although it has great specs, it feels like a downgrade in some aspects
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Two years ago, I got my first real taste of android from a friend who had a Motorola droid 2. I knew I wanted to get an android phone, and being on AT&T, the Captivate was the best phone out there. I tested it out inside the store and knew it was the phone for me. Having done my research, I knew about Samsung's pretty terrible update history which made me nervous, but I decided to go for it anyway.
Needless to say, of course samsung managed to take nearly a year to update the captovate, released on 2.1 eclair, to 2.2 froyo. I was very annoyed with samsung and started researching ways to get the update sooner. I read about rooting, but I decided against it because things seemed to work fine on the phone.
It took a while to get the courage, but I finally rooted my captivate after I was on froyo. I was surprised at how easy it was (thank you no locked bootloaders ). I started reading of roms and had no idea what they were, and the more I read about them the more confused I became with terms like kernels and modems. By the time gingerbread came out by samsung, I still hadn't learned enough about roms and simply updated through Kies Mini. I had to go through the rooting process again, and learned how to use Odin and flashed my first kernel (although I was clueless what it was).
Eventually I found that ics was released and developed on xda and knew I wanted to get it. I finally flashed my first rom after figuring out how to get cwm on the cappy. I was surprised to be getting ics so soon - especially after samsung officially said the cappy wouldn't get the update. Either samsung is just lazy or stupid if they thought the cappy couldn't handle ics. I learned about kernels and cwm and roms and eventually felt comfortable with it all for once.
Now, running the new JellyBean, I can say I am truly impressed with how far this this phone has made it. My iPod touch 2g was basically obsolete after a year and a half to 2 years. It lost support for apps and ios updates. But this wicked phone doesn't stop. It's running JellyBean, and thanks to the awesome devs on XDA, I'm sure it will get the next few android updates!
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I was going to post this same thing. Thanks to the awesome devs on here, my Captivate has run last 5 Android OS. Not many phones can do that.
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I was going to post this same thing. Thanks to the awesome devs on here, my Captivate has run last 5 Android OS. Not many phones can do that.
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Yeah, I really never expected my phone to be doing so well right now. It almost doesn't need upgraded.
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Yeah, I really never expected my phone to be doing so well right now. It almost doesn't need upgraded.
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Same here in terms learning about android, roms, kernels, etc. Since I use the capy for work I will be using this phone for a while. Things are working so well since the Mod9 July 23rd nightly that I am afraid of going on to Jelly Bean, IT's not so much the bugs but the fact that it is working so smoothy. :good:

You said it. I love my cappy. It's definitely an awesome phone. It may not have the latest hardware, but it still proves reliable with what it has.

This is such a nice phone. The devs make sure it is always up to date so it always has the latest roms. Not to mention that it also performs great when it comes to gaming so that is a plus for gamers like me.

This is the longest time I've ever owned one phone and now that I'm running jelly bean I don't see the need to upgrade for a while
That's my main argument against IOS, what iphone will let you obtain the latest version of IOS without having to buy a brand new phone?

Cappy
I upgraded from my Nokia N95 to a captivate about two weeks ago. I got the phone via Rogers for $0.01 with a 1 year plan (Their super 6GB plan) figuring I'd use it about as much as I used my N95. I've never been so happy to be so wrong!
Since then I've installed a buncha roms just messing about. Finally decided on Skanky+Devil Kernel with a overclock to1.4Ghz (oc mostly because I'm addicted to SPB 3d Shell) and I have to say - I'm totally impressed. It performs flawlessly and I'm pleased with the battery life - though I can't seem to put it down for more than a couple minutes all day long.
I was also super happy to find all the community support and information that helped me learn my way around installing mods, rooting, etc. I did so much research (mainly because I'm a cheap bastard) and I couldn't find another phone (with in the deal Rogers had) that had so many different choices for Rom's. I love jellybean and coming off a Symbian OS (N95) you can imagine how this phone has blown my mind. Android as a whole is just so awesome and I thank god I turned a blind eye to everyone I know including family members about going on a iPhone.
I recommend this phone as I can see it has at least a year or two of life before I even have to think about getting a new phone - and even then, the decision to upgrade would be purely out of my addiction to electronics.
+1 for Samsung.
+2 for a awesome community, Rom support and continue'd development for this phone.

+1 go almost everything posted so far. I really had the new Device itch recently but I nutted up and threw miui v4 on here and Wow. Why bother. Love this thing.
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Can you tell me what rom and procedure use to intall JB in the cappy? Im just new to android buying this beatifull used phone.
Please, help me to get JB installed.
Thanks!!

ryghar said:
Can you tell me what rom and procedure use to intall JB in the cappy? Im just new to android buying this beatifull used phone.
Please, help me to get JB installed.
Thanks!!
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I can try, what version are you on right now? Stock froyo or gingerbread? Or are you on ics?
Go to settings / about phone to find out if you aren't sure.
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I have been a Symbyan user for a long time, but because of this platform died decided to switch to another. I tried iPhone cause it is just popular in Russia and Sweden (my native countries). But it really made me mad. After a three days i switched to Captivate, mostly because of it's price and hardware. After installing ICS rom and Semaphore kernel it become awesome =). The only feature i missing is FM radio.

SlavaBass said:
I have been a Symbyan user for a long time, but because of this platform died decided to switch to another. I tried iPhone cause it is just popular in Russia and Sweden (my native countries). But it really made me mad. After a three days i switched to Captivate, mostly because of it's price and hardware. After installing ICS rom and Semaphore kernel it become awesome =). The only feature i missing is FM radio.
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Yeah, I wish there was an fm radio too
JellyBean is at last getting pretty stable and more well rounded for captivate
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I can't believe we can run JB on this... The only downside to this phone is the crappy gps.. Oh well
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Mine and my wifes both have fm radio. Need to root it and download spiritfm. Worked for us here in USA AT&T locked on straight talk.
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Considering jumping to the Photon Q, seeking opinions

I have had a Samsung Epic that has served me well for a couple years. I'm looking to upgrade, and seeing no other qwerty sliders worthy of consideration on Sprint, I am really interested in the Q.
Just the name Q makes me all nostalgic for my old MotoQ9c that is still activated and sits in my drawer for the occasional use as a backup phone. And I have to say that I am impressed with the keyboard on the new Q after trying it out a few times.
My Epic is just about worn out. I have been running CM9.0 on it since alpha, and have it running as good as is to be expected. But it's loaded down with apps, and the slider and keyboard are just about worn out. It's laggy just because it's under powered for all the stuff I'm making it do. To top it off, my otterbox commuter case has broken, and even if I could find a new one, I don't see myself investing in more accessories for this old phone.
The nice thing about the epic, though, was that the dev community was, and to some extent still is, EPIC. So let's just say that coming over here seems a little quiet. I see that there is development happening, of course, just not on the same scale. I also see that CM 10 is available, so I know my ROMing needs will probably be met. So, this alone will not stop me from a move.
Neither will lte/wimax coverage.
So, if some of you would be so kind, just give me your reasons why you think I should or should not buy a new Q. Let me know the strengths and weaknesses of the phone from the perspective of those who have had it for a while.
I greatly appreciate your input.
-AH
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Photon Q:
Pros:
Dual core 1.5ghz Krait.
Nice keyboard.
$50 phone with contract
Cons:
Integrated SIM and battery.
No ROMs available until all kinks are worked out, I would not expect a fully functional ROM any time soon.
I'll think of more .
I would wait more and spend more on a better, more supported phone, though it might the best Keyboard phone available on sprint. iPhone is probably the best on Sprint, for those who don't like freedom, we'll see what Ubuntu OS has to offer! I can't wait for a native system, Android has been disappointing in the app/ROM stability/speed department.

Depends on personal preference. Even with very little development currently going on for the Q, in terms of performance it is leaps and bounds ahead of the Epic. On the stock Q rom no Custom Rom on the Epic is going to come close for multitasking and performance.
The stock rom rooted and with custom mods is pretty snappy. I have no regrets coming from the Epic. The battery life is great on the Q. I had the Epic for two years, and always had terrible battery life no matter what custom rom or mods I ran.
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Pros:
Fast as ****. 2nd fastest SOC in the market .
Best keyboard I have ever used.
Brilliant screen.
Cons:
Battery life.
Not much development.
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Thanks, guys. That's good info, and all along the lines of what I expected. I've got a couple weeks before I make the final jump, so, unless another phone comes along that just blows everything else out of the water, I'll be getting the new Q on or around March 1.
And if something better does come along, well then I guess I can upgrade that line my MotoQ9c has been on for the last 5 years. =)
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I have had every QWERTY phone available on Sprint.
The Moto Q is the best yet. I think you will be happy with the decision.
I was hesitant about giving up the removable battery.
But, I bought a Anker 5600 Mah power bank that I keep in my car or in my front pocket with my wallet and I'm happy.
On a side note, the width of the phone is perfect. Probably the widest I would want.
Let's just hope the Moto Q is not the last, great QWERTY phone.

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Not much development.
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That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...

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That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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I'm glad to hear things are about to pick up!
Now I'll be less tempted to jump onto a Nexus 4 once it eventually comes to Sprint.
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Skrilax_CZ said:
That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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lol, why haven't you said anything......
I feel like I'm reinventing the wheel over here! You guys meet on IRC somewhere, or do I need to speak Czech?

Skrilax_CZ said:
That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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Is there anything public we can see? Like a git somewhere?

Repos are on github in current state: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ?tab=repositories (use android_kernel_moto_asanti_c for kernel). Or see here how to clone the entire tree: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ/android (jellybean branch). Vendor repo is included too, no need to extract anything from phone. Also I'm on ASA14 firmware. I'm porting CM10 as there are problems with camera on CM10.1 on the similar phones such as RAZR HD as of now. And I started this weekend, that's 4 days
Framework is forked, but I haven't patched it yet. So as I said QWERTY keyboard isn't working properly (backlight, onscreen keyboard shows up etc.).
You can find me and kabaldan (as nadlabak) on freenode #motomagic, there are also other guys from US in there to help (well, mind the timezones, CZ is GMT+1).

Skrilax_CZ said:
Repos are on github in current state: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ?tab=repositories (use android_kernel_moto_asanti_c for kernel). Or see here how to clone the entire tree: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ/android (jellybean branch). Vendor repo is included too, no need to extract anything from phone. Also I'm on ASA14 firmware. I'm porting CM10 as there are problems with camera on CM10.1 on the similar phones such as RAZR HD as of now. And I started this weekend, that's 4 days
Framework is forked, but I haven't patched it yet. So as I said QWERTY keyboard isn't working properly (backlight, onscreen keyboard shows up etc.).
You can find me and kabaldan (as nadlabak) on freenode #motomagic, there are also other guys from US in there to help (well, mind the timezones, CZ is GMT+1).
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Friggin sweet!
So when are you going to post CM10? When you get the kb stuff worked out?
I'm building now, hoping to get some success. Hoping you post it to the public soon!

I will post when the "child illnesses" are solved.

I just upgraded from the Evo Shift and I'm glad I did. The Shift was a great phone but like you, it couldn't keep up with me anymore. I rooted, flashed pwnyourface's customish stock ROM and debloated and the phone's running great. With the fast processor, multi-tasking is much easier and even Sprint's abysmal 3G speeds seem better because the apps can us it more efficiently.
Battery life's not bad but with being faster and with a bigger screen' I was expecting a dip from the usual 18hrs I would get out of my Shift. The good thing is that if you buy the Q from Costco Wireless, it's only $40 (edit - with upgrade) plus you get the following:
-belt holster (won't use but I'll take it)
-a slip over case (can't use it in the case but it's good until I get my Otterbox which I found for $21 on Amazon)
-a car charger/wall charger combo with extra cable (cheapish but whatever, it's free)
- mail-in-rebate for a battery pack and nav dock (will take 4-8 weeks to process BUT FREE! WOOOOO!)
Overall, more than happy I upgraded though I'm having to retrain my fingers to work with this keyboard.

Skrilax_CZ said:
Repos are on github in current state: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ?tab=repositories (use android_kernel_moto_asanti_c for kernel). Or see here how to clone the entire tree: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ/android (jellybean branch). Vendor repo is included too, no need to extract anything from phone. Also I'm on ASA14 firmware. I'm porting CM10 as there are problems with camera on CM10.1 on the similar phones such as RAZR HD as of now. And I started this weekend, that's 4 days
Framework is forked, but I haven't patched it yet. So as I said QWERTY keyboard isn't working properly (backlight, onscreen keyboard shows up etc.).
You can find me and kabaldan (as nadlabak) on freenode #motomagic, there are also other guys from US in there to help (well, mind the timezones, CZ is GMT+1).
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Wow! That's all so great to hear. I'm sure if the JB upgrade from moto and sprint ever actually arrives and we get source code on it it will help to figure out a lot of those issues as well. I'm definitely not letting development or lack thereof affect my decision. I know development will happen, it's just a matter of time. My feeling is that some of the newer phones haven't been developed as much as older ones like the Epic because they work so well out of the box with faster processors and more ram. You can't imagine how shocked I was when my Epic froze up less than an hour of leaving the sprint store with it. Everyone knew the hardware could do better, so the tinkerers had to fix it...and boy did they. But if a phone works well out of the box, then there isn't the perceived need for it. Still, I've gotten used to having my phone rooted, checking CM nightlies, and doing my own tweaks. So the fact that this is out there is icing on the cake.
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I just upgraded from the Evo Shift and I'm glad I did. The Shift was a great phone but like you, it couldn't keep up with me anymore. I rooted, flashed pwnyourface's customish stock ROM and debloated and the phone's running great. With the fast processor, multi-tasking is much easier and even Sprint's abysmal 3G speeds seem better because the apps can us it more efficiently.
Battery life's not bad but with being faster and with a bigger screen' I was expecting a dip from the usual 18hrs I would get out of my Shift. The good thing is that if you buy the Q from Costco Wireless, it's only $40 (edit - with upgrade) plus you get the following:
-belt holster (won't use but I'll take it)
-a slip over case (can't use it in the case but it's good until I get my Otterbox which I found for $21 on Amazon)
-a car charger/wall charger combo with extra cable (cheapish but whatever, it's free)
- mail-in-rebate for a battery pack and nav dock (will take 4-8 weeks to process BUT FREE! WOOOOO!)
Overall, more than happy I upgraded though I'm having to retrain my fingers to work with this keyboard.
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Yeah, I saw the deal from costco, and am probably going that way. We don't have a membership, and it's about 20 miles to the nearest store, and we pass two Sam's clubs on the way, but my wife is interested in getting a membership and checking it out for a year, so that's the plan.
And I know what you mean about changing the keyboard. I picked the Epic because I felt it had the best keyboard available at the time, and that was largely due to the 5th row of keys. My first couple tries with the Q were like going into bazaaro land, but the feel of it is just so much more positive. I agree with the guys over at A|C: the best keyboard on an android phone, period.
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Wow, this generated more response than I expected. Thanks so much to all of you for all the info.
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I thought you needed a membership but when I ordered two phones from the website, membershipwireless.com, it never asked for a Costco customer number, just my Sprint info. I think it's a separate entity that's partnered with Costco or something but you don't need to join to buy stuff from the wireless division.

Hey guys.
Just ordered up my phone from Costco. Can't wait until it comes in.
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amateurhack said:
Hey guys.
Just ordered up my phone from Costco. Can't wait until it comes in.
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Great choice!! You gotta love it. For custom ROM,I think it will come considering this phone has an unlocked bootloader.