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Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
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Not Verizon but cricket and some other cdma carriers. There is a q&a section here also, just so you know
hllywd said:
Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
Thanks
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Verizon uses different 3G bands so it won't work.
Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
You can't flash a sprint phone to work on Verizon's network. It doesn't work
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Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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gmap516 said:
Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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They do not but not exactly. Go look at the data bands on a tech sheet for a verizon phone vs a sprint phone.
And even if they were the same, they lock the esn number
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Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.
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once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.
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Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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This is true. Sprint and Verizon offer network reciprocity in their roaming contracts. They will work, technically, on each others networks, but the ESN lock would disallow a change.
I run a Verizon PRL on my wifes Epic and it functions just fine on Verizon towers, but will always show as "roaming". We have not had our contract termed after almost four years with various phones, because it will still default to Sprint tower first.
There are guides on how to get a Verizon PRL loaded, so go give it a try. No harm in it if you dont **** up your profile...but even then, Sprint is pretty cool about reprovisioning.
Yes you can run a Verizon prl on a sprint phone. You can't flash a sprint phone to Verizon though. It just doesn't work. And that's what the op wanted to know.
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Actually, it is possible to get a Sprint phone on Verizon, but it would involve changing of the MEID/ESN, which is illegal. More or less, you trick Verizon into thinking its one of their own phones. You could try your local metroPCS, Cricket, or US Cellular dealer as they might have the experience to do this. Also, try mobile-files.us.
Also, just to re-affirm, Verizon and Sprint share the same bands 3g and 1x.
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Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Sprint will boot you for too much roaming. Also, your roaming is not unlimited. 200mb of data roaming is all you get. Also if you use more than half of your normal voice usage in roaming, sprint can terminate your contract. I have seen it happen, I work for sprint.
This may be different when you actually use a verizon prl as I don't know how that looks to sprint on their systems. I've never tracked usage while using a verizon prl.
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I have read many forums and have flashed new PRLs with QPST but have never really got it to function properly. What PRLs are working for you guys (Verizon or hybrids) and what steps do you take after you write the PRL to your phone?
Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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infernosoft said:
Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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I'm using a hybrid PRL that will roam on sprint and runs normally on verizon. Where I work verizon is not available so I use sprint all day while I'm there but when I'm at home I am using Verizon, the speed difference is incredible in some places, I might get 100Kb down with sprint and 300Kb with verizon, or the opposite it doesn't always work out it your favor.
And to the guy saying I'm going to have my contract terminated, why are you being such a jackass? No they aren't going to terminate me for roaming 100megs a month. Not everyone abuses the system.
*THEY mostly CARE ABOUT DATA ROAMING! SO DONT USE DATA CRAZY!!
* WHEN YOU ROAM U USE YOUR ANYTIME MINUTES*
DON'T GO OVER 300 MB in data Monthly*
ALSO NOTE that if you abuse this u get a warning letter** Ur not just dropped..
Those are the basic rules. Ive long been using a HYBRID PRL!!! and works wonders...For those who need it
Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?
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Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?
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look under my name and the posts i made.. I have a tutorial
Verizon and Sprint have the same frequencies. The only thing preventing you from activating the phone on Verizon would be the ESN not in their database; they will only activate phones in their database.
I know you can definitely activate it on MetroPCS/Cricket. If you just have no signal in certain areas and want to force roaming, download Roam Control. I think it's like $4 but it works beautifully and the dev even just added a homescreen widget so you don't even have to go through the app.
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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Im pretty sure you're gonna be stuck with Edge as in the bands are different for 3G and Hspa
I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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Is Atrix 2 unlocked?
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Ashley88 said:
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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I have heard the same as lilhaiti & JRW 28. Tmobile has different frequencies and the best you're gonna get with a non Tmobile phone is Edge. And as said prior, it's a hardware thing, not software.
Yes its unlocked
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How did you unlock your atrix 2? ive tried dang near everything even a paid site.
T-Mobile will not get 4g. The hardware does not support the signal.band. sorry I had this issue on my hd2. I am att and I never got 3g. That's why I got this phone. Sorry to bring the bad news
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Atrix 2 Unlocked No Signal
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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DarkJatrix said:
Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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That was my thought too. What plan are you on? I read that you can use their 30 dallar unlimited plan when you activate a new sim card.
I still have the hope that at some point after the BL gets unlocked we might get a hacked radio kernel of sorts that will allow use of t mobile bands..... The global 2 did something like this to allow use of t mobile...... One can hope.....
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I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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Ashley88 said:
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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PS. The 4G HSPA is fake 4G, it is just an enhanced 3G connection. So in reality Hspa = 3G
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I live in Vietnam, and I have a problem with Vinaphone network, added APN, but can only use HSPA (4G icon).
If I switch to GPRS (E icon), it says connected, but I cannot ping pass.
Other network (Viettel) is normal.
Even if the bootloader gets unlocked I still believe it would be a hardware issue not an issue of the radio software. They use the same 2g frequency so you can still get edge, but when it comes to 3g they operate on different frequencies. Some phones are made with the hardware for both frequencies though. My Samsung Vibrant (Tmobile phone) actually had the hardware to be used on AT&T 3g! The radio software was an issue unfortunately and it didn't switch well between 2g and 3g, tried all sorts of radio software but had no luck back then.
From what people have experienced by taking this phone to AT&T though, its looking like the Atrix 2 doesn't have the right hardware for the Tmobile 3g frequency.
I'm not one to say something is impossible though. Who knows.. maybe through the failed merger of AT&T and TMobile, TMobile was somehow able to gain access to some of AT&T's 3g towers (doubtful), since they did gain coverage through the breakup agreement after the merger failed.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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In certain markets, they will get part of the frequency that AT&T uses for 4G. I forgot what bands exactly, but if you do a Google search, you should get more info.
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I'm using unlocked Atrix 2 on T-Mobile. And I did get 4G signal when I was in downtown Bellevue, WA. I didn't believe so I ran few speedtests, best I got on Download was 1501kbps, and 1416kbps Upload, and it wasn't roaming. So yes, it works in few places right now.
So, I excitedly purchased a Nexus S 4g off eBay the other day thinking, hey it's a CDMA phone it might work on the Verizon network. Now I'm not so sure. I'd even be willing to use the Sprint network but those guys just told me Sprint has no sims and the only option is to open a 2 year contract agreement to use that phone. Sounds a little crazy to me. I'm not willing or able to do that at this time.
I need a no-contract phone carrier for the Nexus S 4g. Are there any no-contract carriers in the USA that will provide service?
My wife uses her Nexus S 4G on Metro PCS.. there is probably a guide to alternative carriers on here if you look around. She only gets 3g on it but for phone and text its perfect.
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TONYSALEM78 said:
My wife uses her Nexus S 4G on Metro PCS.. there is probably a guide to alternative carriers on here if you look around. She only gets 3g on it but for phone and text its perfect.
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Hi thanks for your reply. If I remember correctly the phone you mention would be a GSM variety. I have a CDMA version. My phone's spec name is Nexus S 4G SPH D720.
Found some good info here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
So just to get 3g I'd need to match up a carrier that supports CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, then a compatible sim, then assuming they allow a sim swap if I have to buy one of their phones unless they have a sim program like Smart Talk.
UNLESS... and this is the real reason I posted this on XDA, I can get some information on how to flash my phone to one of these carriers. I'm now looking hard at Cricket Wireless. They're pretty good in my neighborhood. I know I can pay somebody to do the flash but where would the fun be in that even if I could afford it lol.
So any info on how to flash the phone, correct the settings or whatever else I need to do to get this phone Cricket ready is appreciated!
I'm looking into net10 now. They have a SIM program and support 3g.
My wifes phone is the same.(I think) It was a sprint phone originally. Anyhow, I was in my local metro dealer the other day and he showed me some sim cards as they are about to start using them in September for the bring your own phone program. So if you have a sim slot, that is a possible option for ya! Good luck and keep us posted what you decide,so others know their options as well.
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TONYSALEM78 said:
My wifes phone is the same.(I think) It was a sprint phone originally. Anyhow, I was in my local metro dealer the other day and he showed me some sim cards as they are about to start using them in September for the bring your own phone program. So if you have a sim slot, that is a possible option for ya! Good luck and keep us posted what you decide,so others know their options as well.
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There's no SIM card in this phone. It arrived today. They used an embedded SIM from what I understand. Although I've used Metro PCS in the past it isn't even available in my area if my phone had a SIM. I do appreciate your responses as it appears this device is not getting much love anymore. Funny thing, the phone state is still in service although Sprint has closed usage. So I get a signal and all and have discovered the Sprint network is weak in my area. Specifically my home is a dead zone practically. Back to the drawing board. Be nice if I could switch out the radio I guess. Not sure I wanna undertake all that. Seems a shame as this is still a nice device running Jellybean as well.
You can use sprint or any derivative, ie boost or possibly virgin. No sim, but the phone can be flashed to work on boost. Pretty sure of that. It will never work on anything but sprint guaranteed.
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This might help. Different phone but good information. Still might work the same. Forgot about ting! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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My opinion is buy gsm unlocked ns and your options are endless and I believe gsm has more development as well. Sell the ns4g to pay some of the difference. Gsm are almost always slightly more expensive than gsm but this Phone is 3 years old so it really shouldn't be a problem finding one for less than $100
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You could check out ting.
Thanks for the link. I'm gonna look into flashing this phone to Verizon today.
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Yeah good idea. i had very limited funds the other day while looking for a device and came across the sprint phone cheap. i figured the gsm phones would be just out of my pocket money's reach.
I might end up selling it off and getting a gsm version in the future. in the meantime i went and bought aSamsung illusion running on Verizon network. this phone is very similar to the Nexus phone. Smaller than the "s". Now that Im contracted with Verizon (prepaid) I'll see if i can move the sprint phone over via flashing it. Stay tuned!
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You could check out ting.
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I heard of ting while researching possibilities. Don't quite remember what that was all about. thanks. will check it out.
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I heard of ting while researching possibilities. Don't quite remember what that was all about. thanks. will check it out.
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Ting runs off Sprint towers. You can use any previous Sprint contract phone that Ting has on their eligibility list. Just go to their web site and enter your phone's ESN/MEID to check for eligibility.
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michaelandrew said:
Ting runs off Sprint towers. You can use any previous Sprint contract phone that Ting has on their eligibility list. Just go to their web site and enter your phone's ESN/MEID to check for eligibility.
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Good to know thank you. I ended up signing with Sprint and getting an EVO 4g LTE. I did have the nexus running on Sprint for a few days whil I made my decision.
Anyone tried it? Since XLTE is band 4..
The n5 does not work Verizon at all from what I have read. *source* http://m.androidcentral.com/these-android-devices-take-advantage-verizon-xlte read the comments.
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Anyone tried it? Since XLTE is band 4..
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yea good luck with the verizon activation but technically the n5 does support band 4.. if thats all it is it might work im not sure if verizon has changed other elements that would prevent the n5 from connecting to band 4
seriously.. i know i might get some backlash for this but go to sprint and use the n5 on spark.. here in houston using the .15 modem it is truly wonderful.. worth the wait for sprints upgrades.. band 26 is so wonderful inside buildings and band 41 tho tough to get at times is amazingly fast too.
Again.. ive used spark in houston and baltimore and was impressed.. not to mention sprint has just added more b25 towers around houston making it much better in general too
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Anyone tried it? Since XLTE is band 4..
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No, considering the Nexus 5 does not work on Verizon.
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No, considering the Nexus 5 does not work on Verizon.
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I know it hasnt worked on Verizon before but was curious if it would connect to their band 4 to at least have data
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I know it hasnt worked on Verizon before but was curious if it would connect to their band 4 to at least have data
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Literally nothing would happen if you popped a Verizon sim card in there. It wouldn't even recognize the network.
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I'm a T-Mobile user and recently purchased a Verizon Galaxy S3 knowing that it supports sims from domestic GSM carriers. Everything works as it should except I get no 3G/4G even after adding a T-Mobile APN in the settings menu. Can anybody help? I am only getting edge data. The apn im using is epc.tmobile.com. Thank You.
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I'm a T-Mobile user and recently purchased a Verizon Galaxy S3 knowing that it supports sims from domestic GSM carriers. Everything works as it should except I get no 3G/4G even after adding a T-Mobile APN in the settings menu. Can anybody help? I am only getting edge data. The apn im using is epc.tmobile.com. Thank You.
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You may want to check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013647
Last I remember reading, you could only get edge speeds on T-Mobile with a Verizon Galaxy S3. No 3G or 4G speeds.
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You may want to check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013647
Last I remember reading, you could only get edge speeds on T-Mobile with a Verizon Galaxy S3. No 3G or 4G speeds.
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Sometimes that's true, mainly because t-mobile 3g 4g relied on an unconventional band to work. However Cleveland (where I live) has been refarmed meaning all unlocked phones can use t-mobile 3g/4g. This seems to be a problem specific to my device.
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You may want to check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013647
Last I remember reading, you could only get edge speeds on T-Mobile with a Verizon Galaxy S3. No 3G or 4G speeds.
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I'm pretty sure as long as you are on at least 4.1.2 you can just pop in a SIM card and it will work that thread is really old. I am on 4.4.2 and can get edge data by adding in the T-Mobile apn with Samsung's stock apn manager. A little off topic anyone who is curious about t mobile speed my wife got a s5 through t mobile and she gets 50 mbps. I use to get that on Verizon but it has dropped down to around 20 as of late. Can't wait to get my g3 and have decent 4g speeds again. Oh I suppose I should state I live in the Minneapolis area.
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I'm pretty sure as long as you are on at least 4.1.2 you can just pop in a SIM card and it will work that thread is really old. I am on 4.4.2 and can get edge data by adding in the T-Mobile apn with Samsung's stock apn manager. A little off topic anyone who is curious about t mobile speed my wife got a s5 through t mobile and she gets 50 mbps. I use to get that on Verizon but it has dropped down to around 20 as of late. Can't wait to get my g3 and have decent 4g speeds again. Oh I suppose I should state I live in the Minneapolis area.
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So it's just edge you're getting? Mind if I ask the city where you live? T-mobile has been revamping its network in some places.
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So it's just edge you're getting? Mind if I ask the city where you live? T-mobile has been revamping its network in some places.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk but look at the last six words of my last post :silly:
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I'm not trying to be a jerk but look at the last six words of my last post :silly:
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Very long day. My bad.
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Very long day. My bad.
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Your NEVER going to get it. 3g/4g only edge. And its because Verizon locks down the domestic aws for those us bands on its i535v. And it comes unlocked. So not sure what you mean there. I have mine on straightalk att side. But only get E. And I've tried everything but hanging upside down with tinfoil 3 matches on old sheet and singing amazing grace at midnight with a full moon. No 3g/4g. And oh. BTW. I could throw a rock from my yard and LITERALLY hit an att high speed tower. Sorry..