Use on other cdma companies - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
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Not Verizon but cricket and some other cdma carriers. There is a q&a section here also, just so you know
hllywd said:
Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
Thanks
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Verizon uses different 3G bands so it won't work.

Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?

You can't flash a sprint phone to work on Verizon's network. It doesn't work
gmap516 said:
Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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gmap516 said:
Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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They do not but not exactly. Go look at the data bands on a tech sheet for a verizon phone vs a sprint phone.
And even if they were the same, they lock the esn number
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Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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dowmace said:
Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.

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once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.
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Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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This is true. Sprint and Verizon offer network reciprocity in their roaming contracts. They will work, technically, on each others networks, but the ESN lock would disallow a change.
I run a Verizon PRL on my wifes Epic and it functions just fine on Verizon towers, but will always show as "roaming". We have not had our contract termed after almost four years with various phones, because it will still default to Sprint tower first.
There are guides on how to get a Verizon PRL loaded, so go give it a try. No harm in it if you dont **** up your profile...but even then, Sprint is pretty cool about reprovisioning.

Yes you can run a Verizon prl on a sprint phone. You can't flash a sprint phone to Verizon though. It just doesn't work. And that's what the op wanted to know.
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Actually, it is possible to get a Sprint phone on Verizon, but it would involve changing of the MEID/ESN, which is illegal. More or less, you trick Verizon into thinking its one of their own phones. You could try your local metroPCS, Cricket, or US Cellular dealer as they might have the experience to do this. Also, try mobile-files.us.
Also, just to re-affirm, Verizon and Sprint share the same bands 3g and 1x.

Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Sprint will boot you for too much roaming. Also, your roaming is not unlimited. 200mb of data roaming is all you get. Also if you use more than half of your normal voice usage in roaming, sprint can terminate your contract. I have seen it happen, I work for sprint.
This may be different when you actually use a verizon prl as I don't know how that looks to sprint on their systems. I've never tracked usage while using a verizon prl.
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I have read many forums and have flashed new PRLs with QPST but have never really got it to function properly. What PRLs are working for you guys (Verizon or hybrids) and what steps do you take after you write the PRL to your phone?

Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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infernosoft said:
Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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I'm using a hybrid PRL that will roam on sprint and runs normally on verizon. Where I work verizon is not available so I use sprint all day while I'm there but when I'm at home I am using Verizon, the speed difference is incredible in some places, I might get 100Kb down with sprint and 300Kb with verizon, or the opposite it doesn't always work out it your favor.
And to the guy saying I'm going to have my contract terminated, why are you being such a jackass? No they aren't going to terminate me for roaming 100megs a month. Not everyone abuses the system.

*THEY mostly CARE ABOUT DATA ROAMING! SO DONT USE DATA CRAZY!!
* WHEN YOU ROAM U USE YOUR ANYTIME MINUTES*
DON'T GO OVER 300 MB in data Monthly*
ALSO NOTE that if you abuse this u get a warning letter** Ur not just dropped..
Those are the basic rules. Ive long been using a HYBRID PRL!!! and works wonders...For those who need it

Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?

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Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?
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look under my name and the posts i made.. I have a tutorial

Verizon and Sprint have the same frequencies. The only thing preventing you from activating the phone on Verizon would be the ESN not in their database; they will only activate phones in their database.
I know you can definitely activate it on MetroPCS/Cricket. If you just have no signal in certain areas and want to force roaming, download Roam Control. I think it's like $4 but it works beautifully and the dev even just added a homescreen widget so you don't even have to go through the app.

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[Q] NO HSPA+/Only EDGE on Simple Mobile

So I bought a Samsung Infuse off Craigslist. I love it, it's awesome. I use the Simple Mobile $60/m plan. I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant before the Infuse. I used to run CM7 but used Bionix 1.31 as my ROM on my Vibrant. So I'm familiar with the ends and outs of this technology.
The Situation: Samsung Infuse running latest "unofficial build" CM7, flawless performance. After doing much research as to APN settings on Google and XDA I found that the internet is wrong with the APN settings for HSPA+ on a HSPA+ capable phones. I called Simple Mobile yesterday and we did an OTA (she spoke I listened) configuration of the APN and it's full of IP addresses nao. She said that will allow me to access the "4G" network. The thing is, it says "E" for EDGE at the top for my signal....consistently.
The Problem: The EDGE never changes, also according to various speedtest's I can't EVER break .50kbs DL speed off of WiFi.
So I tried switching out various modems that we're available to me for the Infuse via the CWM flashable's. I've seen NO IMPROVEMENT on data speeds after each modem.
So what exactly is the issue: Am I doing something wrong via XDA material? Or am I just ****ed on HSPA+/4G speeds?
Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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Evilspawn said:
Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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I own a business; I know about selling. But according to my research, your a little or alot off; I just can't exactly prove it.
I know that AT&T offers 4Gish speeds (true LTE in like 2 cities in TX), and that T-Mobile offers 3.5+G-4Gish speeds.
I also understand the concept of up-selling, however that scenario does not apply with my current plan and situation.
Has it, or has it NOT been documented ANYWHERE that an HSPA+ capable phone on the $60/m Simple Mobile plan achieved true or realistic data DL speeds off WiFi?
I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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jayson94538 said:
I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I'm not using WiFi as a comparison, just as another option for higher DL speeds. Off WiFi I've seen snails crawl faster than my data can move.
I just want to know why I can't get anything better than **** with this great phone and supposedly "reasonably-good" network.
Vizone- said:
You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
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They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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bobthq said:
They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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The phone was NETWORK LOCKED when I bought it, so I guess I suppose I'm glad you we'rent with my when I bought it lol.
I'll take into mild consideration that a multitude of people may not be aware of alternate existing networks.
The T-Mobile phone I had before licked ****ing sac, my buddy has a Captivate that OVER-SHINED my Vibrant any day of the week - So No, I won't buy a phone from a company that's supposedly being bought out BY AT&T.
From previous quotes: It seems that we are implying that ONLY a T-MOBILE BRAND PHONE can access the 4Gish HSPA+ speeds that Simple Mobile network (that uses T-Mobile towers) and not an AT&T branded phone.
Yes, it's true....the above DOES in fact sound stupid when I put it on paper. AT&T and T-Mobile use the same towers and Simple Mobile/Metro PCS (some other un-explained networks) use the SAME towers.
So how is it, according to posters: That replacing AT&T phone with T-Mobile garbage will allow me to acquire the DL speeds that reference HSPA+/4G speeds. AND NOT, under any circumstances is it possible for an AT&T phone that uses the same towers to get the same outcome?
OK, the last part really does sound stupid, I feel like I'm arguing with a mockingbird. Anyone else have any further to offer?
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Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Actually I re-read this statement. AT&T don't use the same bands, something about T-Mobile uses 850 and AT&T uses 1700.
Would changing the band selection make a difference? How to if possible?
I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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bobthq said:
I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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Word, posted on Craigslist and I suppose I'll get an HTC Sensation. Thank-you for your recent clarification.
Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Optimus-Prime said:
Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Will straight talk sim work on not "straight talk phones"?
Which cheapest phone of straight talk I have to buy to get their SIM-card?
I know they selling GSM and CDMA phones and don't want to buy wrong one.
Flat Out answer only the 2G or EDGE bands in the phone are compatible with ATT networks the other bands are different so if you want bettter speeds get att or use wi-fi because edge is all you will ever get no matter what you do to the APN
like on the previous post mentioned, i think most of the att phones doesn't have the radio that is capable of receiving the 3g/4g frequencies tmobile use. i could be wrong, but i think is a hardware problem rather than a setting you can change.
Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
Dani897 said:
Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
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Consumer Cellular is VERY "no-frills" - it's only for VERY light users.
There is no AT&T phone that I know of that supports the 1700 MHz band required for T-Mobile 3G.
The only phone I know of that has pentaband HSPA+ (works on both AT&T and T-Mobile) is the Galaxy Nexus.
When I programmed my HTC Evo 3D i saw various optinos for cdma/eg/4g in CDMA Workshop & QPST Service Programming, what I saw was diferent types of bands and freqz, you might wana check out a phone's specs of tmobile and then check if those specs (frqz & bands) match with the one set on your device...
For example
The Vocoder settings
band prefferences :
band class 0/1/2/3/4/5/ sys a/b/
GSM DSC 1800
GSM extended 900
Etc etc.... check with the device's password on it's profiles and realms (settings I can view on my evo using ##data# )
I can confirm that the issue is with the phones. I just ran a test using my simple mobile card on an AT&T Infuse vs Tmobile Vibrant 4G.
AT&T Infuse
Edge connection with 50kps max
Tmobile Vibrant 4G
3G connection with 240kps max
I will be going to staright talk at the end on this billing cycle.

Unlocked ATRIX 2, currently on T-Mobile. Can I get 4g?

My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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Im pretty sure you're gonna be stuck with Edge as in the bands are different for 3G and Hspa
I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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Is Atrix 2 unlocked?
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Ashley88 said:
Oh wow... that really sucks. Thanks for the answers though. What if I root it or that still wouldn't be able to help? Edge is pretty ****ty service for such a nice phone, which is why I got it... plus I got a hell of a deal on it lol
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I have heard the same as lilhaiti & JRW 28. Tmobile has different frequencies and the best you're gonna get with a non Tmobile phone is Edge. And as said prior, it's a hardware thing, not software.
Yes its unlocked
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How did you unlock your atrix 2? ive tried dang near everything even a paid site.
T-Mobile will not get 4g. The hardware does not support the signal.band. sorry I had this issue on my hd2. I am att and I never got 3g. That's why I got this phone. Sorry to bring the bad news
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Atrix 2 Unlocked No Signal
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
guyinyoureye said:
I have successfully removed the network lock on an Atrix 2 but gets absolutely no signal/emergency calls only with a T-Mobile sim. When I search for Network providers only AT&T shows. I was wondering if the radio was locked for some reason. Anyone else had this problem?
(For those of you who like to throw out the simplest ideas: Yes T-Mobile has service in the area. Yes: I have done a reset and chaged sims etc..)
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Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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DarkJatrix said:
Have you set the Tmobile apn (acsess point names)
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That was my thought too. What plan are you on? I read that you can use their 30 dallar unlimited plan when you activate a new sim card.
I still have the hope that at some point after the BL gets unlocked we might get a hacked radio kernel of sorts that will allow use of t mobile bands..... The global 2 did something like this to allow use of t mobile...... One can hope.....
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I have a friend that has an Atrix 4g unlocked on T-Mobile, and he has claimed to have gotten a 4g signal in one fringe area. He said that it was very spotty at best but it worked. I suspect it was some kind or roam signal he caught, or he was delusional. But Edge is definitely the best you will get since the frequencies are different. There is no fix for that, it is a hardware thing.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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You can get 4G on T-Mobile, but only in certain areas as of right now. Pretty soon though, after T-Mobile starts utilizing the frequencies gained from the deal going through, you should start seeing more 4G in more places. But we have to wait and see if it actually happens.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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Ashley88 said:
My service bars are full but it has an "E" instead of 2g, 3g, or as I would prefer, 4g. Does anyone know if I will have to root my phone? Or what my limits are considering it is unlocked and working on T-Mobile?
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PS. The 4G HSPA is fake 4G, it is just an enhanced 3G connection. So in reality Hspa = 3G
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I live in Vietnam, and I have a problem with Vinaphone network, added APN, but can only use HSPA (4G icon).
If I switch to GPRS (E icon), it says connected, but I cannot ping pass.
Other network (Viettel) is normal.
Even if the bootloader gets unlocked I still believe it would be a hardware issue not an issue of the radio software. They use the same 2g frequency so you can still get edge, but when it comes to 3g they operate on different frequencies. Some phones are made with the hardware for both frequencies though. My Samsung Vibrant (Tmobile phone) actually had the hardware to be used on AT&T 3g! The radio software was an issue unfortunately and it didn't switch well between 2g and 3g, tried all sorts of radio software but had no luck back then.
From what people have experienced by taking this phone to AT&T though, its looking like the Atrix 2 doesn't have the right hardware for the Tmobile 3g frequency.
I'm not one to say something is impossible though. Who knows.. maybe through the failed merger of AT&T and TMobile, TMobile was somehow able to gain access to some of AT&T's 3g towers (doubtful), since they did gain coverage through the breakup agreement after the merger failed.
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Idk that the "deal" will allow 4G. Remember tmo and att use different frequencies
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In certain markets, they will get part of the frequency that AT&T uses for 4G. I forgot what bands exactly, but if you do a Google search, you should get more info.
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I'm using unlocked Atrix 2 on T-Mobile. And I did get 4G signal when I was in downtown Bellevue, WA. I didn't believe so I ran few speedtests, best I got on Download was 1501kbps, and 1416kbps Upload, and it wasn't roaming. So yes, it works in few places right now.

Verizon SGS3 on prepaid carrier?

hey guys. I've been in this love/hate relationship with Verizon for a long time now and am kinda done with them. I was wondering if anyone knew what carrier's network works with the S3. I was pretty sure Virgin Mobile uses Verizon's towers, and if that's true, is there anything special i need to do to make my phone work with them?
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hey guys. I've been in this love/hate relationship with Verizon for a long time now and am kinda done with them. I was wondering if anyone knew what carrier's network works with the S3. I was pretty sure Virgin Mobile uses Verizon's towers, and if that's true, is there anything special i need to do to make my phone work with them?
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Virgin Mobile uses Sprint system and you can not activate Sprint device on Virgin. They just won't do it. This is an agreement that they have with Sprint. How ever, you can activate Verizon GS3 on AT&T or T-mobile without unlocking but getting the DATA working is another story. I have been trying to make the data work with T-Mobile but so far no luck. I can make and receive calls but that's about it. If you know of any way to get the DATA working please let me know.
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Virgin Mobile uses Sprint system and you can not activate Sprint device on Virgin. They just won't do it. This is an agreement that they have with Sprint. How ever, you can activate Verizon GS3 on AT&T or T-mobile without unlocking but getting the DATA working is another story. I have been trying to make the data work with T-Mobile but so far no luck. I can make and receive calls but that's about it. If you know of any way to get the DATA working please let me know.
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alright. thanks for the info.
herach said:
Virgin Mobile uses Sprint system and you can not activate Sprint device on Virgin. They just won't do it. This is an agreement that they have with Sprint. How ever, you can activate Verizon GS3 on AT&T or T-mobile without unlocking but getting the DATA working is another story. I have been trying to make the data work with T-Mobile but so far no luck. I can make and receive calls but that's about it. If you know of any way to get the DATA working please let me know.
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Have u tried the world phone way in the quickies under Android dev it could be apn
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Verizon SGS3 on AT&T
herach said:
Virgin Mobile uses Sprint system and you can not activate Sprint device on Virgin. They just won't do it. This is an agreement that they have with Sprint. How ever, you can activate Verizon GS3 on AT&T or T-mobile without unlocking but getting the DATA working is another story. I have been trying to make the data work with T-Mobile but so far no luck. I can make and receive calls but that's about it. If you know of any way to get the DATA working please let me know.
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Could you please explain how you managed making and receiving calls worked at AT&T, I have verizon gs3 and trying to get it worked with AT&T thanks.
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I'm trying to figure out what prepaid network uses verizon towers. I think Cricket is the only one...
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Pageplus uses Verizon's towers. Nationwide coverage. I have my galaxy nexus on page plus.
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Ditto PagePlus...works fine and the plans are decently priced unlike AT&T's stupid GoPhone crap...
Has Anyone got the verizon s3 to work on straight talk?
straight talk uses verizon towers too dont it?

[Q] 4g with straight talk

is it possible to buy the att sim card from straight talk for my 4g t-mobile galaxy. get on the $45 UNLIMITED EVERYTHING from straight talk and get the 4g speeds. only reason i want to do this is att has 4g coverage where i live. can only get 4g with t-mobile 30 miles away where i work. att has a lot more 4g coverage. ive seen on google where this is being done with straight talk. and its cheaper too. thanks
Yes, use this to unlock your phone for other carriers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419468
If you don't want the trouble of installing busybox, use this instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978974
But however the flash method is currently known to work on ICS only. FB is working on a fix for GB.
th3controller said:
Yes, use this to unlock your phone for other carriers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419468
If you don't want the trouble of installing busybox, use this instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978974
But however the flash method is currently known to work on ICS only. FB is working on a fix for GB.
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my phone is already unlocked. my main question is can 4g be achieved through straight talk
I would say yes because my friends S2 (T-mobile) worked for Simple Mobile. Simple Mobile goes under TracFone Wireless Inc. which owns both Simple Mobile and Straight Talk.
Or as long as they support HSDPA your good to go!
So when your getting a plan from Straight Talk make sure to ask them if they support HSDPA.
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I would say yes because my friends S2 (T-mobile) worked for Simple Mobile. Simple Mobile goes under TracFone Wireless Inc. which owns both Simple Mobile and Straight Talk.
Or as long as they support HSDPA your good to go!
So when your getting a plan from Straight Talk make sure to ask them if they support HSDPA.
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It depends on the sim card you get I have heard reports that the 4g on our phones does not work well on at&t but if you get a T-Mobile supported sim should be no problem.
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So when your getting a plan from Straight Talk make sure to ask them if they support HSDPA.
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This statement made me laugh. Asking them this will only create anger issues. The support people I have dealt with NEVER have a clue.
Its cool tho. People if you consider going to Straight Talk be prepared to have almost no tech support.
As posted above att will be iffy on this phone. If you are looking to get better data speeds I suggest steering away from Straight Talk there is a unknown daily data cap. And it sounds like you are looking to get faster data speeds to do something that will probably put you over the daily data cap. At that point Straight Talk will cancel your service and you have to call and ***** to get it turned back on. Hopefully they will publish something on what the daily limit is soon.
eollie said:
This statement made me laugh. Asking them this will only create anger issues. The support people I have dealt with NEVER have a clue.
Its cool tho. People if you consider going to Straight Talk be prepared to have almost no tech support.
As posted above att will be iffy on this phone. If you are looking to get better data speeds I suggest steering away from Straight Talk there is a unknown daily data cap. And it sounds like you are looking to get faster data speeds to do something that will probably put you over the daily data cap. At that point Straight Talk will cancel your service and you have to call and ***** to get it turned back on. Hopefully they will publish something on what the daily limit is soon.
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once again my main goal here is to get more 4g coverage area. i have t-moble 4g service with t-moble. but the coverage area is slim, cant get it where i live. only 2g where i live. very agravating. would like the larger coverage area with att, and with straight talk its only $45. for unlimmited. wanted to know if anyone out therehas done this with straight talk. thanks
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once again my main goal here is to get more 4g coverage area. i have t-moble 4g service with t-moble. but the coverage area is slim, cant get it where i live. only 2g where i live. very agravating. would like the larger coverage area with att, and with straight talk its only $45. for unlimmited. wanted to know if anyone out therehas done this with straight talk. thanks
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The only problem with trying to expand your 4g coverage by using a at&t sim thru straight talk is the T-Mobile 4g and At&t 4g work differently. Some of at&t 4g coverage is actually 4g lte which this phone does not support. Even their hspa+ network may be configured slightly different. Bhundven has an unlocked sgs4g and has tried his At&t sim and has reported that the 4g does not work well on it. Barely even gets 4g reception and dismal speeds at that.
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At&t ****in sucks anyway
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turtlepa said:
At&t ****in sucks anyway
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You are a moron. How the hell do you know ATT sucks? Personal experience? Please crawl back into your shell.
turtlepa said:
At&t ****in sucks anyway
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Stop bumping threads...
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You are a moron. How the hell do you know ATT sucks? Personal experience? Please crawl back into your shell.
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So how long have you been working at AT&T lmao
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So how long have you been working at AT&T lmao
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How long have you been jumping into random threads?? Sprint boy?

Nexus S 4g no contract carrier options?

So, I excitedly purchased a Nexus S 4g off eBay the other day thinking, hey it's a CDMA phone it might work on the Verizon network. Now I'm not so sure. I'd even be willing to use the Sprint network but those guys just told me Sprint has no sims and the only option is to open a 2 year contract agreement to use that phone. Sounds a little crazy to me. I'm not willing or able to do that at this time.
I need a no-contract phone carrier for the Nexus S 4g. Are there any no-contract carriers in the USA that will provide service?
My wife uses her Nexus S 4G on Metro PCS.. there is probably a guide to alternative carriers on here if you look around. She only gets 3g on it but for phone and text its perfect.
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TONYSALEM78 said:
My wife uses her Nexus S 4G on Metro PCS.. there is probably a guide to alternative carriers on here if you look around. She only gets 3g on it but for phone and text its perfect.
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Hi thanks for your reply. If I remember correctly the phone you mention would be a GSM variety. I have a CDMA version. My phone's spec name is Nexus S 4G SPH D720.
Found some good info here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
So just to get 3g I'd need to match up a carrier that supports CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, then a compatible sim, then assuming they allow a sim swap if I have to buy one of their phones unless they have a sim program like Smart Talk.
UNLESS... and this is the real reason I posted this on XDA, I can get some information on how to flash my phone to one of these carriers. I'm now looking hard at Cricket Wireless. They're pretty good in my neighborhood. I know I can pay somebody to do the flash but where would the fun be in that even if I could afford it lol.
So any info on how to flash the phone, correct the settings or whatever else I need to do to get this phone Cricket ready is appreciated!
I'm looking into net10 now. They have a SIM program and support 3g.
My wifes phone is the same.(I think) It was a sprint phone originally. Anyhow, I was in my local metro dealer the other day and he showed me some sim cards as they are about to start using them in September for the bring your own phone program. So if you have a sim slot, that is a possible option for ya! Good luck and keep us posted what you decide,so others know their options as well.
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TONYSALEM78 said:
My wifes phone is the same.(I think) It was a sprint phone originally. Anyhow, I was in my local metro dealer the other day and he showed me some sim cards as they are about to start using them in September for the bring your own phone program. So if you have a sim slot, that is a possible option for ya! Good luck and keep us posted what you decide,so others know their options as well.
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There's no SIM card in this phone. It arrived today. They used an embedded SIM from what I understand. Although I've used Metro PCS in the past it isn't even available in my area if my phone had a SIM. I do appreciate your responses as it appears this device is not getting much love anymore. Funny thing, the phone state is still in service although Sprint has closed usage. So I get a signal and all and have discovered the Sprint network is weak in my area. Specifically my home is a dead zone practically. Back to the drawing board. Be nice if I could switch out the radio I guess. Not sure I wanna undertake all that. Seems a shame as this is still a nice device running Jellybean as well.
You can use sprint or any derivative, ie boost or possibly virgin. No sim, but the phone can be flashed to work on boost. Pretty sure of that. It will never work on anything but sprint guaranteed.
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This might help. Different phone but good information. Still might work the same. Forgot about ting! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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My opinion is buy gsm unlocked ns and your options are endless and I believe gsm has more development as well. Sell the ns4g to pay some of the difference. Gsm are almost always slightly more expensive than gsm but this Phone is 3 years old so it really shouldn't be a problem finding one for less than $100
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You could check out ting.
Thanks for the link. I'm gonna look into flashing this phone to Verizon today.
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Yeah good idea. i had very limited funds the other day while looking for a device and came across the sprint phone cheap. i figured the gsm phones would be just out of my pocket money's reach.
I might end up selling it off and getting a gsm version in the future. in the meantime i went and bought aSamsung illusion running on Verizon network. this phone is very similar to the Nexus phone. Smaller than the "s". Now that Im contracted with Verizon (prepaid) I'll see if i can move the sprint phone over via flashing it. Stay tuned!
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jumico said:
You could check out ting.
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I heard of ting while researching possibilities. Don't quite remember what that was all about. thanks. will check it out.
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KEB64 said:
I heard of ting while researching possibilities. Don't quite remember what that was all about. thanks. will check it out.
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Ting runs off Sprint towers. You can use any previous Sprint contract phone that Ting has on their eligibility list. Just go to their web site and enter your phone's ESN/MEID to check for eligibility.
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michaelandrew said:
Ting runs off Sprint towers. You can use any previous Sprint contract phone that Ting has on their eligibility list. Just go to their web site and enter your phone's ESN/MEID to check for eligibility.
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Good to know thank you. I ended up signing with Sprint and getting an EVO 4g LTE. I did have the nexus running on Sprint for a few days whil I made my decision.

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