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Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
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Not Verizon but cricket and some other cdma carriers. There is a q&a section here also, just so you know
hllywd said:
Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
Thanks
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Verizon uses different 3G bands so it won't work.

Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?

You can't flash a sprint phone to work on Verizon's network. It doesn't work
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Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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gmap516 said:
Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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They do not but not exactly. Go look at the data bands on a tech sheet for a verizon phone vs a sprint phone.
And even if they were the same, they lock the esn number
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Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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dowmace said:
Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.

derekwilkinson said:
once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.
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Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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This is true. Sprint and Verizon offer network reciprocity in their roaming contracts. They will work, technically, on each others networks, but the ESN lock would disallow a change.
I run a Verizon PRL on my wifes Epic and it functions just fine on Verizon towers, but will always show as "roaming". We have not had our contract termed after almost four years with various phones, because it will still default to Sprint tower first.
There are guides on how to get a Verizon PRL loaded, so go give it a try. No harm in it if you dont **** up your profile...but even then, Sprint is pretty cool about reprovisioning.

Yes you can run a Verizon prl on a sprint phone. You can't flash a sprint phone to Verizon though. It just doesn't work. And that's what the op wanted to know.
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Actually, it is possible to get a Sprint phone on Verizon, but it would involve changing of the MEID/ESN, which is illegal. More or less, you trick Verizon into thinking its one of their own phones. You could try your local metroPCS, Cricket, or US Cellular dealer as they might have the experience to do this. Also, try mobile-files.us.
Also, just to re-affirm, Verizon and Sprint share the same bands 3g and 1x.

Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Sprint will boot you for too much roaming. Also, your roaming is not unlimited. 200mb of data roaming is all you get. Also if you use more than half of your normal voice usage in roaming, sprint can terminate your contract. I have seen it happen, I work for sprint.
This may be different when you actually use a verizon prl as I don't know how that looks to sprint on their systems. I've never tracked usage while using a verizon prl.
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I have read many forums and have flashed new PRLs with QPST but have never really got it to function properly. What PRLs are working for you guys (Verizon or hybrids) and what steps do you take after you write the PRL to your phone?

Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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infernosoft said:
Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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I'm using a hybrid PRL that will roam on sprint and runs normally on verizon. Where I work verizon is not available so I use sprint all day while I'm there but when I'm at home I am using Verizon, the speed difference is incredible in some places, I might get 100Kb down with sprint and 300Kb with verizon, or the opposite it doesn't always work out it your favor.
And to the guy saying I'm going to have my contract terminated, why are you being such a jackass? No they aren't going to terminate me for roaming 100megs a month. Not everyone abuses the system.

*THEY mostly CARE ABOUT DATA ROAMING! SO DONT USE DATA CRAZY!!
* WHEN YOU ROAM U USE YOUR ANYTIME MINUTES*
DON'T GO OVER 300 MB in data Monthly*
ALSO NOTE that if you abuse this u get a warning letter** Ur not just dropped..
Those are the basic rules. Ive long been using a HYBRID PRL!!! and works wonders...For those who need it

Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?

infernosoft said:
Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?
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look under my name and the posts i made.. I have a tutorial

Verizon and Sprint have the same frequencies. The only thing preventing you from activating the phone on Verizon would be the ESN not in their database; they will only activate phones in their database.
I know you can definitely activate it on MetroPCS/Cricket. If you just have no signal in certain areas and want to force roaming, download Roam Control. I think it's like $4 but it works beautifully and the dev even just added a homescreen widget so you don't even have to go through the app.

[Q] Verizon GS3 on T-mobile/Simple Mobile with 3g

Hey
I was able to get the Verizon Samsung galaxy S3 to work on simple mobile(prepaid service that uses t-mobile's towers) but I am only getting 2g speed. As anyone being able to get it work on t-mobile with 3g speeds.If the 3g works on t-mobile, it would work on simple mobile.

samsunggs3owner said:
Hey
I was able to get the Verizon Samsung galaxy S3 to work on simple mobile(prepaid service that uses t-mobile's towers) but I am only getting 2g speed. As anyone being able to get it work on t-mobile with 3g speeds.If the 3g works on t-mobile, it would work on simple mobile.
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I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I'm only getting max of EDGE connection, which is equivilent to 2G... I guess. Lol
Only way 3G or 4G will work is for T-Mobile to merge Verizon towers with theirs, and that will not happen, for about another month or so, promised by T-Mobile. But I hope so!

jtdo said:
I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I'm only getting max of EDGE connection, which is equivilent to 2G... I guess. Lol
Only way 3G or 4G will work is for T-Mobile to merge Verizon towers with theirs, and that will not happen, for about another month or so, promised by T-Mobile. But I hope so!
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From what I have heard from verizon themselves is that the contract talks fell apart between them and t-mobile. I have an S3 and have rooted and swapped sims.. then reprogrammed the phone to only pickup 750mhz 1700mhz, 1900mhz, and 2100mhz (I believe that is what I have it set to) so that if/when they do get back together and make it happen the phone that I have setup will be able to grab the tower information and get 4g. I have spoken with T-,Mobile and they are not saying anything at this time. I will keep you up to date.

angelicsoldier said:
From what I have heard from verizon themselves is that the contract talks fell apart between them and t-mobile. I have an S3 and have rooted and swapped sims.. then reprogrammed the phone to only pickup 750mhz 1700mhz, 1900mhz, and 2100mhz (I believe that is what I have it set to) so that if/when they do get back together and make it happen the phone that I have setup will be able to grab the tower information and get 4g. I have spoken with T-,Mobile and they are not saying anything at this time. I will keep you up to date.
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Wait so how were you able to do this. Can you post the instructions online.So your currently getting 3g with tmobile on you verizon GS3?

samsunggs3owner said:
Wait so how were you able to do this. Can you post the instructions online.So your currently getting 3g with tmobile on you verizon GS3?
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no. what I was mentioning is that the contract talks between them fell apart...I am still working on getting 3g on the phone.. however I have seen that the chipsets are the same between the models. I purchased 2 gs3s one att and one verizon. Opened them up and part numbers where the same on the main board. I am fairly new to the android development area and so to the best of my knowledge you should be able to flash the radioover but have not tried yet... am going to try once I get some time to flash an AT&T radio and kernals and see if I can put a sim into the phone and see what happens.

angelicsoldier said:
no. what I was mentioning is that the contract talks between them fell apart...I am still working on getting 3g on the phone.. however I have seen that the chipsets are the same between the models. I purchased 2 gs3s one att and one verizon. Opened them up and part numbers where the same on the main board. I am fairly new to the android development area and so to the best of my knowledge you should be able to flash the radioover but have not tried yet... am going to try once I get some time to flash an AT&T radio and kernals and see if I can put a sim into the phone and see what happens.
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Hope you got jtag Some very good devs have tried to get it to work for months and havent been able to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895684

[Q] flash to net10's new CDMA BYOD

So net10 has unlimited everything for $50 with CDMA devices on their new BYOD program- http://www.net10byop.com/ PagePlus and VZWPP both claim LTE devices don't work but it's merely that they require flashing. I assume it's the same for net10. Has anyone tried this?

untruestory said:
So net10 has unlimited everything for $50 with CDMA devices on their new BYOD program- http://www.net10byop.com/ PagePlus and VZWPP both claim LTE devices don't work but it's merely that they require flashing. I assume it's the same for net10. Has anyone tried this?
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Ive been wondering dame thing. I want to get my niece a phone that use this but no LTE has stopped me
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kenbrownstone said:
Ive been wondering dame thing. I want to get my niece a phone that use this but no LTE has stopped me
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LTE is really overkill on a phone IMO when 3g allows streaming video and there's free WiFi on every corner. Unless you're tethering who cares. I just want 3g.
If it can be done on other mvnos im sure it can be done.
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i would like more info on this as well. thisi is what i heard
my friend got a call from net10 dealer. saying that net10 wants us to flash phones to net10 now. I know net10, tracfone,st ect our owned by the same person even page plus now!! page plus dealer portal will probably disappear soon or later.
well net10 cdma is now open for business to flasher offing unlimited everything for $50
the only reason i really want to make the switch because whether unlimited or not net10 advertises as unlimited data so that makes all the difference with customers. plus is $5 cheaper. anybody else heard of this? not trying to mess up vipers thread but just trying to see as we might have to had net10 to the topic. if so i want to make this transition asap plus you can top up on net10 anywhere!!! even at your local dollar store! another plus

Verizon S3 on Straight Talk

Just received my SIM card from straight talk for the i535 all I did was go to straight talk web site activate the phone using the phone imei number then start phone with SIM card installed> Once SIM card was activated I restarted the phone and had LTE with no need to setup APN settings.
I just shut off the verizon service right before setting up the phone on ST so I do not know if thats has effected anything but hopefully it doesn't.
Also I had to contact Straight Talk using their facebook page to get the SIM card and it was shipped for free.

highspeedfelon said:
Just received my SIM card from straight talk for the i535 all I did was go to straight talk web site activate the phone using the phone imei number then start phone with SIM card installed> Once SIM card was activated I restarted the phone and had LTE with no need to setup APN settings.
I just shut off the verizon service right before setting up the phone on ST so I do not know if thats has effected anything but hopefully it doesn't.
Also I had to contact Straight Talk using their facebook page to get the SIM card and it was shipped for free.
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Good to know, I get my sim card from straight talk tomorrow. I didn't imagine it was that hard to setup. You did the smart thing and went to facebook, like an idiot I called them and it took well over a week for them to send it
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ShapesBlue said:
Good to know, I get my sim card from straight talk tomorrow. I didn't imagine it was that hard to setup. You did the smart thing and went to facebook, like an idiot I called them and it took well over a week for them to send it
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Oh it took them a while to send it to me also. I had even told them to cancel it and thats when I went to Verizon. I was told at one point that the SIM cards should be in stores around December 5th,

highspeedfelon said:
Oh it took them a while to send it to me also. I had even told them to cancel it and thats when I went to Verizon. I was told at one point that the SIM cards should be in stores around December 5th,
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Yea the kit they sell at Walmart doesn't currently include it only the T-Mobile and AT&T sims which we can't use. Mine will Thankfully be here today
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Can you explain what you mean by "shut off Verizon services*?
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A0425A said:
Can you explain what you mean by "shut off Verizon services*?
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What he's saying is he had a VZW phone on VZW and cancelled his service to go with Straight Talk I believe

canodroid15 said:
What he's saying is he had a VZW phone on VZW and cancelled his service to go with Straight Talk I believe
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That's correct. I am now with straight talk with a VZW S3
All I had to do was get the sim card from straight talk and call them to activate it. It was a pretty simple process
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So you didn't have to hack the phone or anything?? Verizon is CDMA and Straight Talk is GSM, how did that work? Especially without setting up a new APN?
Oh and did you get the AT&T or TMobile sim? I think straight talk still has the option for either.

jayjr1105 said:
So you didn't have to hack the phone or anything?? Verizon is CDMA and Straight Talk is GSM, how did that work? Especially without setting up a new APN?
Oh and did you get the AT&T or TMobile sim? I think straight talk still has the option for either.
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It does but straight talk told me the AT&T and T-Mobile sims won't work for this phone. They sent me a CDMA specific sim card, and cmda phones will indeed work on straight talk, not every single one but most
And no I didn't have to do anything with the phone, didn't have to edit apn settings or anything. I'm still running off the Verizon network
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ShapesBlue said:
It does but straight talk told me the AT&T and T-Mobile sims won't work for this phone. They sent me a CDMA specific sim card, and cmda phones will indeed work on straight talk, not every single one but most
And no I didn't have to do anything with the phone, didn't have to edit apn settings or anything. I'm still running off the Verizon network
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Wait, Straight Talk has Verizon SIM's now??? Meaning Verizon is one of their MVNO's? I always thought it was just TMobile and AT&T and Tracfone leased off Sprint for CDMA based phones.

jayjr1105 said:
Wait, Straight Talk has Verizon SIM's now??? Meaning Verizon is one of their MVNO's? I always thought it was just TMobile and AT&T and Tracfone leased off Sprint for CDMA based phones.
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Tracphone owns straight talk for one. It's a straight talk sim... But they piggy back off all 4 networks. VZW, ATT, TMobile and sprint
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What type of speeds you getting with straight talk on the 4G LTE VZW network? Speedtest?

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What type of speeds you getting with straight talk on the 4G LTE VZW network? Speedtest?
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Are you referring to me?

I was. However I hooked my Old S3 up for a family member. I can confirm that the VZW S3 will get 4G LTE on the Verizon network with the CDMA Sim that comes with the starter pack. Ran a speed test at full signal strength and had an initial burst for ~9-10 mbs and stabilized at ~5mb both up and down. This is way more than the user of the phone will need but also not a bad number.
For comparison sake my personal phone on a VZW unlimited plan still gets 40+ mbs during speed tests in the same location. Appears that ST is speed limited but at 5mbs still more than 99.9% of users will ever need/notice at one time.

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I was. However I hooked my Old S3 up for a family member. I can confirm that the VZW S3 will get 4G LTE on the Verizon network with the CDMA Sim that comes with the starter pack. Ran a speed test at full signal strength and had an initial burst for ~9-10 mbs and stabilized at ~5mb both up and down. This is way more than the user of the phone will need but also not a bad number.
For comparison sake my personal phone on a VZW unlimited plan still gets 40+ mbs during speed tests in the same location. Appears that ST is speed limited but at 5mbs still more than 99.9% of users will ever need/notice at one time.
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Yea I'm not worried about speed as I'm 99% of the time on wifi so I could care less now. The initial starter pack didn't come with the CDMA sim. Card which is a pain but now it does
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Quick question for those that have done this already - I have just ordered the Galaxy S3 I535 from walmart because i'm cheap and it was on special - Would it be wise to at least activate the phone on Verizon and entering the details on ST's site to make sure it will work before getting the sim or just ordering it (they are on special right now for .99c) I'm glad they are doing the CDMA sims because i had read that folks were only getting edge for data using the AT&T sims and was prepared to limit myself to being on the Verizon prepaid plan and just sucking it up...

warlordxxx said:
Quick question for those that have done this already - I have just ordered the Galaxy S3 I535 from walmart because i'm cheap and it was on special - Would it be wise to at least activate the phone on Verizon and entering the details on ST's site to make sure it will work before getting the sim or just ordering it (they are on special right now for .99c) I'm glad they are doing the CDMA sims because i had read that folks were only getting edge for data using the AT&T sims and was prepared to limit myself to being on the Verizon prepaid plan and just sucking it up...
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If its the prepaid version it may not work, the prepaid version doesn't utilize a sim card where as the contract version does
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Thanks Shapes it's the prepaid but i'll wait til it gets here and check it out

warlordxxx said:
Thanks Shapes it's the prepaid but i'll wait til it gets here and check it out
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Probably a good idea. I'm truly unsure if it will work or not. I have the S3 contract version and it works great on straight talk. Another user informed me the prepaid version doesn't utilize a sim which in most cases at least for VZW means no 4G
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Verizon Note edge on Metro pcs?

I have a Verizon Note edge, it's currently on my mom's Verizon plan but I have no data, she took off on me so I need to switch carriers.
I'm running lollipop. Is there a way for me to use metro pcs fully with lte and all?
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All recent verizon phones with LTE should be unlocked.
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I keep reading that, however I've been doing a bunch of searching and have found a bunch of issues with people not getting them to work.
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Anyone?
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So after calling Verizon, calling metro and T-Mobile. I'm still left without a straight answer. But from what I'm hearing it's not going to work.
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Just to report in on this, I went out and bought the SIM kit, got a spare phone just in case, activated it and everything. It does not work.
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Will this not work because my phone is still on contract with Verizon?
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Huge update. This phone is now working 99% on Metro. Even still being associated on my mom's Verizon account. It is using my metro service, on a tmobile apn. Full lte, working mms, voice, text, data, everything. So happy to have resolved this.
Future reference, it won't work if you add your imei via the metro website, you would have to call metro or in my case use the online chat support.
The only thing not working is the hotspot built in. I have yet to test if a third party hotspot app will work or not.
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Why not hop on Page Plus Cellular while your Verizon Note Edge esn is still clear. Maybe they'll let her/you pay off the phone or it's already out of contract and you won't have to worry about a blacklisted esn, or if all else do a basic bare minimum plan with it on Verizon keeping the esn in good standings.
But I believe their sim's are usually international use only and metroPCS isn't CDMA anymore, so you'd get spotty coverage as it'd only be dependent upon the sim cards coverage which my not meet the specifications for metro's coverage, but with Page Plus Cellular you'd get the coverage that works for your phone model and carrier and you'd also get LTE with it.

I've never heard of page plus here in Tampa bay area. Metro is huge here, and $60 for unlimited LTE ain't a bad deal lol. I need the unlimited LTE also.
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Nickdroid86 said:
I've never heard of page plus here in Tampa bay area. Metro is huge here, and $60 for unlimited LTE ain't a bad deal lol. I need the unlimited LTE also.
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Yea man I'm on metroPCS too T-Mobile Note Edge. haha! I work for Cricket wireless too and the owner is always 24/7 trying to convince me to switch. LMAO
I didn't see your post before mine, that's cool though it's all working good, yea I was using PPC before I switched back over to metroPCS: They're a Verizon MVNO https://www.pagepluscellular.com/plans/ another good company of Page Plus Cellular reseller is http://kittywireless.com they're always doing special promotions and extra plans.
Not sure exactly how that would work with the phone still being under contract. If ya have walgreens drug stores there look at the wireless cards section you'll probably see a Page Plus Cellular card.

Hey, HOW DID YOU GET THE PHONE TO WORK ON METROPCS NETWORK????! I have a note edge on verizon and want to switch it over to metropcs. I called verizon and they said the phone was unlocked so I took it to metropcs for activation. They put a metropcs sim card and turned my phone on but it wouldn't read the metropcs sim card and the phone stated that the sim card was not a verizon sim card. What do I do now? Any help would be much appreciated!

I am just starting with MetroPCS with my NoteEdge which I had been using with Verizon. I am having the same problem when trying to use the MobileHotSpot.
Any luck finding an answer or solution?
Thanks in advance

volant007 said:
Hey, HOW DID YOU GET THE PHONE TO WORK ON METROPCS NETWORK????! I have a note edge on verizon and want to switch it over to metropcs. I called verizon and they said the phone was unlocked so I took it to metropcs for activation. They put a metropcs sim card and turned my phone on but it wouldn't read the metropcs sim card and the phone stated that the sim card was not a verizon sim card. What do I do now? Any help would be much appreciated!
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A little different for me. I have a USC and put a StraighTalk sim in and it works. Just edit the apn. To verify what I read about the 6.0.1 update. I downgraded back to Kitkat and got "Invalid" sim. Might be worth a try and nothing really lost...