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[Q] Coming from vibrant

Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums

medoo313 said:
Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums
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GB ROM's aren't fully stable just yet. And dev support is about 1/50th of what it is in the Vibrant section so it will take more time for it to pick up for the 4G. Also, internal memory sucks so you'll probably need apps2SD or something.
But there are plenty of great people here that will help you out, lots of good things should be coming to this phone in the future. The ROM bible in the dev section should provide you with a lot of rooting tips.
Good luck man.

Thanks for your respond mackster. I will be joining the game here soon.

one of the questions answered
so I did some more research on superoneclick and I see that is good for
Rooting and UnRooting
Correct me if I am Mistaking
but will someone till me why do i Delete Fota Files for ?

Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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lostsauce said:
Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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when you say internal memory isn't like 16 GB ? Like the vibrant ?

Internal Memory
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.

Exodian said:
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.
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oh man. i just figured that out too. that's not Nice

Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
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dsexton702 said:
Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
sent from my sgs4g 2.3.3, finally
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Well. you made a point but as you know we're human likes the hole pie not missing any piece

I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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Exodian said:
I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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just got it but too bad i have to go to work. I will be playing with it tomorrow after noon

Home app launcher

I really like apex launcher on my gs3 and equally so on my 8. But even though I set it as the default launcher Samsung seems to override at will. Is there something I'm missing?
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I use Nova. It's my favorite and works well on the Note 8. I think I read theres a bug in Apex, and thats why it doesnt work on the Note 8, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly
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Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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kisrita said:
I use Nova. It's my favorite and works well on the Note 8. I think I read theres a bug in Apex, and thats why it doesnt work on the Note 8, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly
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Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?

xd2009 said:
Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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Yes to all the above. The only thing I've noticed that's lost is the S Planner month view widget. The S Planner app still works, I just couldn't get the big month view widget on the screen with Nova. So I bought aCalendar instead, which has a month view widget...
PS: For instant note to work, you have to hold the pen button while you touch the screen twice. (In my case, touching the screen twice is set to bring up recent apps, touching it twice while holding the pen button brings up the note. I'm not sure if there's a setting I changed somewhere to do that...)

kisrita said:
Yes to all the above. The only thing I've noticed that's lost is the S Planner month view widget. The S Planner app still works, I just couldn't get the big month view widget on the screen with Nova. So I bought aCalendar instead, which has a month view widget...
PS: For instant note to work, you have to hold the pen button while you touch the screen twice. (In my case, touching the screen twice is set to bring up recent apps, touching it twice while holding the pen button brings up the note. I'm not sure if there's a setting I changed somewhere to do that...)
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That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.

xd2009 said:
That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
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Unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been an announcement regarding a release date for a 32GB version in US, or even that it will be available.
Get the 16gb version, buy a 32gb sd card for <$30. I would assume that would be much cheaper than paying whatever the upgrade cost is to have that additional memory built in. Plus, you can start playing with it now.
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xd2009 said:
Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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I know you're talking about Nova, but I've been using Apex Launcher, and all these features work.
The only thing I've really noticed that only shows up in TouchWiz Home is the S Planner widget(s)... weird, cause the S Planner ones still work in alternate launchers. Other than that, everything else seems to be intact, but maybe I missed something.
What other apps/widgets/features are specific to this launcher?

xd2009 said:
That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
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I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since. The only time I've ever had to delete an app to free up space was on my iPad. Maybe ios apps are bigger? You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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kisrita said:
I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since.
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Thanks for this info! I've been wondering about all that and how different usage patterns would affect things. If there is an easy way to do so would you mind posting a list of the apps you have installed?
kisrita said:
You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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Relevant threads (both methods require rooting your device):
howto: mount external sdcard as sdcrard0
Use SD-Card as main storage?

kisrita said:
I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since. The only time I've ever had to delete an app to free up space was on my iPad. Maybe ios apps are bigger? You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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I'm impressed that you only used 3GB. I usually use more than this. I have 9GB used in my Nexus 7 and almost twice as much on my Droid Razr Maxx. I do believe I would not need to install so many 3rd party apps on the Note since it's already heavily customized. I might give it a try to see if I can survive with only 9 GB.
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elmwood said:
Unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been an announcement regarding a release date for a 32GB version in US, or even that it will be available.
Get the 16gb version, buy a 32gb sd card for <$30. I would assume that would be much cheaper than paying whatever the upgrade cost is to have that additional memory built in. Plus, you can start playing with it now.
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I know you're talking about Nova, but I've been using Apex Launcher, and all these features work.
The only thing I've really noticed that only shows up in TouchWiz Home is the S Planner widget(s)... weird, cause the S Planner ones still work in alternate launchers. Other than that, everything else seems to be intact, but maybe I missed something.
What other apps/widgets/features are specific to this launcher?
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I have only heard of 32 GB in Europe or India. I had hopes of a 32 GB being released in the US because the Note 10 has a 32 GB version. I believe that no other Samsung device has more than 16 GB in the US.
I might give it a try now that it's available at Sam's Club.

pluginalong said:
Thanks for this info! I've been wondering about all that and how different usage patterns would affect things. If there is an easy way to do so would you mind posting a list of the apps you have]
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If this works, the link should be to screen shots of all my apps on my Note 8. It is a short list, I had twice as many apps on my GNex until I cleaned it out recently, but this is pretty much all I need. I found that even my two year old single core tablet is still usable as long as I don't put a lot of apps on it. I also found on my GNex and Nexus 7 a horrible slow down when less than a specific amount of free space was available, so I now make sure I always have at least 2gb free.
Thanks for the sd card tips, I will check it out later.
Edit: deleted link. Picasa appears to link to Google plus now. I will post from another site tomorrow.
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xd2009 said:
I believe that no other Samsung device has more than 16 GB in the US. I might give it a try now that it's available at Sam's Club.
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So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
kisrita said:
If this works, the link should be to screen shots of all my apps on my Note 8. It is a short list, I had twice as many apps on my GNex until I cleaned it out recently, but this is pretty much all I need. ... I also found on my GNex and Nexus 7 a horrible slow down when less than a specific amount of free space was available, so I now make sure I always have at least 2gb free.
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Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).

Regarding default home launcher:
I had this issue with Action Launcher and it was resolved by dev...only thing is theres a bug in the play store with JB4.1.2 that showed up then which is probably what you're getting now. It has been resolved with 4.2 so it'll be flakey until Samsung pushes that out. The workaround atm is to use a root app to make your launcher a system app not user and that'll override until 4.2 comes our way.
HTH
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pluginalong said:
So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
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You are right, I don't know which way it goes. Samsung usually releases a basic device and later releases either a 3G enabled or a different color, who knows? The Note at Sam's Club is $380. The biggest points for me are: an affordable protection plan and a longer (an actual hassle free) returning time. I figure I'll try the Note 8 as is and see whether or not I need the extra storage space for apps. I know of apps to install stuff to SD card but one needs to root the tablet. I've never rooted any phone or tablet and don't want to purchase something if rooting will be needed.

pluginalong said:
So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
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Ok - let's try these links... should be a screen shot of each of my app pages. The link on the bottom may go to the location all of them are shown. I haven't tried this before so I don't know how well this will work:
Possible link to all of them? http://postimg.org/gallery/6qd44eza/2765721e/

xd2009 said:
You are right, I don't know which way it goes. Samsung usually releases a basic device and later releases either a 3G enabled or a different color, who knows? The Note at Sam's Club is $380. The biggest points for me are: an affordable protection plan and a longer (an actual hassle free) returning time.
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That is a nice price (though of course sales tax will eat up some of the savings), and even better that you get the other benefits you mentioned!
xd2009 said:
I know of apps to install stuff to SD card but one needs to root the tablet. I've never rooted any phone or tablet and don't want to purchase something if rooting will be needed.
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Yeah, I feel similarly about not wanting to mess with rooting.
kisrita said:
Ok - let's try these links... should be a screen shot of each of my app pages.
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That worked fantastic! Thanks for sharing!

h20rat said:
Regarding default home launcher:
I had this issue with Action Launcher and it was resolved by dev...only thing is theres a bug in the play store with JB4.1.2 that showed up then which is probably what you're getting now. It has been resolved with 4.2 so it'll be flakey until Samsung pushes that out. The workaround atm is to use a root app to make your launcher a system app not user and that'll override until 4.2 comes our way.
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That's what I found too. Additionally, tt seems to have impact on paid apps only. I am using Smart Launcher. The free version works perfectly, paid version not. Although there is a "patch app" for Smart Launcher to fix this issue, it simply does not work on Galaxy Note 8.0. While at the same time works perfectly on Galaxy Note 2...... strange...

If you've rooted your rom, just delete the touch wiz apk from /system/app
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What about Go Launcher?
Have you tried Go Launcher on Note 8? I'm planning on buying this tablet in the near future, and Go Launcher is the best one I've tried on my SGS2.

Expand your internal storage from 8GB to 11GB

Someone in the Intl forum has actually managed to increase the internal storage from 8gb to 11gb. I'm curious if it works for our att phones. Apparently, you can flash the PIT file via Odin and it works according to some people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2429309

are you sure about this to up-great memory 8gp up to 11 gb ??

This is for the international version. Flashing this to your device will almost certainly result in a brick.
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I am not sure this is a good idea. The "drive" in the Samsung Galaxy S4 is (like) an SSD as it supports TRIM.
There is a lot of open/update/close/delete going on which leaves lots of data to purge.
Lets say I write to a file called TEMP.TXTthe word hello. On the drive it writes this (simplified):
Drive *=in use/valid x=invalid but not purged e=empty
[*****eee][eeeeeeee]
Data:
[hello]
Now if I go and update TEMP.TXT to and change hello to seeya, it now looks like this:
Drive *=in use/valid x=invalid but not purged e=empty
[xxxxx***][**eeeeee]
Data:
[seeya]
So it doesnt update the block of data because it is "too expensive" performance-wise so it writes to a blank space.
*Expensive is read the data in that block, format/blank out the block, modify the buffer for the new data, write to block
*its always fastest to write to an empty block
On occasion, the drive will initiate a garbage collection stage which takes the invalidated areas of the drive and sets them back to blank
*Google TRIM SSD for in-depth SSD functionality
SSD are overprovisioned(OP) on purpose for performance reasons and longevity. This means if there is a 128 gig drive, it advertises 120 gig drive. The OP is like guaranteed blank area.
Now when the drive gets 85% full or more, it has that 8 gig read/write/update/delete available still and performance is still great
If you remove the OP and use the entire 128 gig, as it gets 85% full and more, the performance of the drive reduces as it is reading/writing/deleting to areas that are not blank so the drive tells the OS to wait while it gets the area ready and then the phone feels sluggish
I purchased android turner application and this has aTRIM feature. I scheduled that to run every 3 hours and it reports it clears anywhere from 24 meg to 3.89 gig. I let my buddy check out my phone to check out a game, and he goes "wow everything on your phone is so fluid". He has a Galaxy Note 2
Sorry for the rant

Capt said:
Someone in the Intl forum has actually managed to increase the internal storage from 8gb to 11gb. I'm curious if it works for our att phones. Apparently, you can flash the PIT file via Odin and it works according to some people.
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Yeah...I think it might be a good idea to remove that link.

Red_81 said:
This is for the international version. Flashing this to your device will almost certainly result in a brick.
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yeah bricked phone but with a lot of space

atari800 said:
I purchased android turner application and this has aTRIM feature. I scheduled that to run every 3 hours and it reports it clears anywhere from 24 meg to 3.89 gig. I let my buddy check out my phone to check out a game, and he goes "wow everything on your phone is so fluid". He has a Galaxy Note 2
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Which app has the TRIM feature? The developer makes "System Tuner" and "Android Tuner". Which one did you get??

doug3673 said:
Which app has the TRIM feature? The developer makes "System Tuner" and "Android Tuner". Which one did you get??
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ANDROID TUNER (Blue Android picture)
Start it up
Click on SYSTEM MANAGER
On the TOP bar thing, click FS TRIMMER
It will show /system, /data and /cache and at very bottom a button that says TRIM
Click it
you can also set it to apply on boot...but I have mine scheduled to run every 3 hours which is probably overkill but hey.... what the hell, right?

FYI, I have System Tuner and did not see TRIM in it. I didn't look very hard though. Was too busy being annoyed that System Tuner did not become what Android Tuner is. And Android Tuner is like 4x more expensive.

mattdm said:
Yeah...I think it might be a good idea to remove that link.
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Why would he remove the link? Its up to the user to decide to use it or not. Censorship of links that are right here in xda is just plain silly.

Because some noob will come in here thinking it is a tutorial, go to that link, flash the file and brick their phone.
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CZ Eddie said:
FYI, I have System Tuner and did not see TRIM in it. I didn't look very hard though. Was too busy being annoyed that System Tuner did not become what Android Tuner is. And Android Tuner is like 4x more expensive.
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ANDROID TUNER
Not system tuner. They are 2 completely different apps
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graydiggy said:
ANDROID TUNER
Not system tuner. They are 2 completely different apps
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Yeah, I know.
doug3673 said:
Which app has the TRIM feature? The developer makes "System Tuner" and "Android Tuner". Which one did you get??
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rebel1699 said:
Why would he remove the link? Its up to the user to decide to use it or not. Censorship of links that are right here in xda is just plain silly.
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I'm not talking about censorship; I'm talking about responsibility. It is irresponsible to post a promise like that and link to something that will almost certainly hard-brick any i337 on which it is flashed.

It will most likely fail to even flash...from what I've come up with we can't even flash our own pits (I've tried) they say successfully flashed but nothing else changes, a pit flash SHOULD delete all data on a phone and wipe the partitions/reset them...however with the s4...it just boots back up like the pit was never flashed
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There is always the chance that it will flash, though. Chance is not good with a $650 phone.
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How to Increase RAM memory ? :/

I heard that RAM memory can be increase through SWAP
But I don't know how to...
Can anyone please explain it ?
my phone is rooted and unlocked BootLoader...
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Just read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231

Just so you know swap partitions are very slow and can have a significant impact on the life of your SD card or internal memory, depending on where you put the partition. I know more RAM sounds like a good idea, but make sure to read the whole guide so you can a better feel for the cons of this procedure. Your phone might not even be noticeably faster afterwards.
You can put more RAM inside of your phone if you are so inclined. Just buy some RAM off NewEgg or your retailer of choice (DDR4 is really fast!). Once you get the RAM pop the back off your phone. Inside you will see a large black box with the word Liion written on it. Do not worry, this is not actual lion, nor is it a lion egg. Just take that out. Using scissors or another sharp implement, cut the RAM down to the size of that black box. Simply put that RAM inside of your phone and you are done! Some people like to solder it in place, but that is mostly just to cut down on rattle noise. Note, that soldering your phone is actually quite dangerous. I chose to solder mine, and my phone no longer boot after. But, it was still pretty cool to have 4GB of RAM in my phone.

R u joking??
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Essaker said:
R u joking??
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I was being serious with my advice in the first paragraph. However, until they invent wireless RAM you can safely ignore the second paragraph.

huh ! :banghead:
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Buy a new phone...
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Xperia Z is good for gaming....
Okee I'll buy it..
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Essaker said:
huh ! :banghead:
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Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.

Jedakiah said:
Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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RAM is usually only an issue with older phones, but more often than not its not the only issue. I remember I experimented with swap back in my Fascinate (VZW Galaxy S variant) days, and that was because the VZW variant shipped with 384MB of RAM as opposed to 512MB on every other GS1 variant.
Several phones later, hours of reading, and enormous amounts more experimenting with Android not only on my phone, but rooting/flashing friends' phones too, I can tell you that if you're considering swap, you should really buy a new phone. Maybe that's not an option for you based on budget restrictions, however if that's the case I would recommend that spending time on XDA posting about hugely outdated software mods could be better spent working/advancing your career, but I digress.
More objectively, you're going to get better performance out of A) flashing newer versions of android which handle RAM swapping better and B) mild overclocking. Moderate to severe overclocking could gain you better performance yields but not for what you will sacrifice in battery life respectively. Hope this helps.
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Jedakiah said:
Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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Also remember that this is a mobile computer, but a computer none the less. Regular reboots can make worlds of difference. I reboot every 2-3 days at least.
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Killing apps too aggressively?

Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?

brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.
Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188

brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1
Just some quick tips:
- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use
this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.

vbauer86 said:
You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1
Just some quick tips:
- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use
this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.
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Problem is that I did not have this problem on my Note 3(with lollipop 5,0) so why should I have it on the touchwiz "lite" on the S6? same RAM on both devices.

johanbiff said:
There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.
Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188
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This issue is discussed in the other thread, but this one is appropriately named. The issue is driving me nuts, but I didn't find anyone else complaining until I saw this thread.
Bloat or no bloat, it's incomprehensible to me how you can't even have three apps running on a phone with 3 GB of ram. My OPO could easily have six or more apps running at the same time.

Well, my galaxy s6 is going back to T-Mobile. LG G4 here I come.

I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.

brian85 said:
I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.
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they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update

johanbiff said:
they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update
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I really like the phone too, but I'm constantly down to about 200-400 MB of RAM although I've removed most of the bloat and I'm not running any weird apps that I haven't used on other phones in the past.
Not too keen on rooting cause of all the warranty issues either...sure hope you're right about them fixing it.

You're not supposed to have free RAM...
Android’s operating system has its own native handler for assigning RAM to apps and making sure that all of it is being used in the most optimal way. In fact, Android purposely tries to keep apps loaded into RAM for better performance. RAM is fast, remember? On mobile devices, every bit of speed is critical for a good user experience, so keeping apps in RAM is actually a good thing.
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http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.

I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.

incuvolta said:
You're not supposed to have free RAM...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.
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Thanks, I know this. Doesn't change the fact that my OPO had about 600 MB more free RAM at any given moment and multitasked like a champ.
Hope they'll fix it soon.

Really don`t think it`s the issue with to low RAM, I belive this is a management issue or a bug thats just kills the apps to quickly or even maybe lollipop 5,0,2 issue that samsung missed? I sent samsung a mail about it yesterday so hopefully they will contact me back.

I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.
Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?

brian85 said:
I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.
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Call Samsung customer support. I did for the flash remaining lit, and they weren't even aware of it. We need to be notifying Samsung of these issues, not our carriers.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
made a tip to phone arena about this, hopefully Samsung will get some eyes open so they can fix this.
B.R
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Fruktsallad said:
I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.
Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?
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sorry no :\ but made a tip to phone arena about it and they announced it today so lets se what happens
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
B.R

Same problem here. Sammy, please...

now also up on Sammobile site
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/

update is comming according to Samsung UK
just got this answer fron Sammy UK.
let`s see what will happen

johanbiff said:
just got this answer fron Sammy UK.
let`s see what will happen
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Fingers crossed. Thanks johanbiff
Just a quick link to my S6 edge thread - also about same issue so we can all keep track of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/aggressive-ram-management-t3090492/page1
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johanbiff said:
now also up on Sammobile site
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
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Also Gizmodo India
http://www.gizmodo.in/indiamodo/RAM...he-Samsung-Galaxy-S6/articleshow/47083669.cms