Someone in the Intl forum has actually managed to increase the internal storage from 8gb to 11gb. I'm curious if it works for our att phones. Apparently, you can flash the PIT file via Odin and it works according to some people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2429309
are you sure about this to up-great memory 8gp up to 11 gb ??
This is for the international version. Flashing this to your device will almost certainly result in a brick.
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I am not sure this is a good idea. The "drive" in the Samsung Galaxy S4 is (like) an SSD as it supports TRIM.
There is a lot of open/update/close/delete going on which leaves lots of data to purge.
Lets say I write to a file called TEMP.TXTthe word hello. On the drive it writes this (simplified):
Drive *=in use/valid x=invalid but not purged e=empty
[*****eee][eeeeeeee]
Data:
[hello]
Now if I go and update TEMP.TXT to and change hello to seeya, it now looks like this:
Drive *=in use/valid x=invalid but not purged e=empty
[xxxxx***][**eeeeee]
Data:
[seeya]
So it doesnt update the block of data because it is "too expensive" performance-wise so it writes to a blank space.
*Expensive is read the data in that block, format/blank out the block, modify the buffer for the new data, write to block
*its always fastest to write to an empty block
On occasion, the drive will initiate a garbage collection stage which takes the invalidated areas of the drive and sets them back to blank
*Google TRIM SSD for in-depth SSD functionality
SSD are overprovisioned(OP) on purpose for performance reasons and longevity. This means if there is a 128 gig drive, it advertises 120 gig drive. The OP is like guaranteed blank area.
Now when the drive gets 85% full or more, it has that 8 gig read/write/update/delete available still and performance is still great
If you remove the OP and use the entire 128 gig, as it gets 85% full and more, the performance of the drive reduces as it is reading/writing/deleting to areas that are not blank so the drive tells the OS to wait while it gets the area ready and then the phone feels sluggish
I purchased android turner application and this has aTRIM feature. I scheduled that to run every 3 hours and it reports it clears anywhere from 24 meg to 3.89 gig. I let my buddy check out my phone to check out a game, and he goes "wow everything on your phone is so fluid". He has a Galaxy Note 2
Sorry for the rant
Capt said:
Someone in the Intl forum has actually managed to increase the internal storage from 8gb to 11gb. I'm curious if it works for our att phones. Apparently, you can flash the PIT file via Odin and it works according to some people.
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Yeah...I think it might be a good idea to remove that link.
Red_81 said:
This is for the international version. Flashing this to your device will almost certainly result in a brick.
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yeah bricked phone but with a lot of space
atari800 said:
I purchased android turner application and this has aTRIM feature. I scheduled that to run every 3 hours and it reports it clears anywhere from 24 meg to 3.89 gig. I let my buddy check out my phone to check out a game, and he goes "wow everything on your phone is so fluid". He has a Galaxy Note 2
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Which app has the TRIM feature? The developer makes "System Tuner" and "Android Tuner". Which one did you get??
doug3673 said:
Which app has the TRIM feature? The developer makes "System Tuner" and "Android Tuner". Which one did you get??
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ANDROID TUNER (Blue Android picture)
Start it up
Click on SYSTEM MANAGER
On the TOP bar thing, click FS TRIMMER
It will show /system, /data and /cache and at very bottom a button that says TRIM
Click it
you can also set it to apply on boot...but I have mine scheduled to run every 3 hours which is probably overkill but hey.... what the hell, right?
FYI, I have System Tuner and did not see TRIM in it. I didn't look very hard though. Was too busy being annoyed that System Tuner did not become what Android Tuner is. And Android Tuner is like 4x more expensive.
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Yeah...I think it might be a good idea to remove that link.
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Why would he remove the link? Its up to the user to decide to use it or not. Censorship of links that are right here in xda is just plain silly.
Because some noob will come in here thinking it is a tutorial, go to that link, flash the file and brick their phone.
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CZ Eddie said:
FYI, I have System Tuner and did not see TRIM in it. I didn't look very hard though. Was too busy being annoyed that System Tuner did not become what Android Tuner is. And Android Tuner is like 4x more expensive.
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ANDROID TUNER
Not system tuner. They are 2 completely different apps
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graydiggy said:
ANDROID TUNER
Not system tuner. They are 2 completely different apps
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Yeah, I know.
doug3673 said:
Which app has the TRIM feature? The developer makes "System Tuner" and "Android Tuner". Which one did you get??
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Why would he remove the link? Its up to the user to decide to use it or not. Censorship of links that are right here in xda is just plain silly.
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I'm not talking about censorship; I'm talking about responsibility. It is irresponsible to post a promise like that and link to something that will almost certainly hard-brick any i337 on which it is flashed.
It will most likely fail to even flash...from what I've come up with we can't even flash our own pits (I've tried) they say successfully flashed but nothing else changes, a pit flash SHOULD delete all data on a phone and wipe the partitions/reset them...however with the s4...it just boots back up like the pit was never flashed
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There is always the chance that it will flash, though. Chance is not good with a $650 phone.
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I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
All thanks to Brainmaster for whipping this up..
I will post the results I've had to save you a few steps...
I did his test mothod using root explorer and sd Tools and tested each one of his recommended settings..
(I have the stock SDcard that came in my showcase, i'm assuming it's probably the same in the Mesmerize?) It's a Samsung microSDHC class2 16GB..
I'm running the EB11pnp3 with voodoo lagfix enabled. The OP says you need to test these to see which one works for you. But I thought that if we have the same phone/same sdcard then it MAY be the same results...
so here's my Results:
128 3.7 MB/s "WRITE" 14.1 MB/s "READ" **This is what the phone is set to at default
1024 3.2/14.6
2048 5.1/14.4
3072 5.3/15.0
4096 6.7/15.0 <<<this is as far as he has listed and it gives the best results, Doubling the "Write" time and improving the "READ" time by a LITTLE!!!
I haven't tried flashing yet, still reading through the pages, but came across this POST.. Which may be the way we would have to make it stick past rebooting...
Maybe some of the SCH-I500's dev can take a look at this and improve it even more for us..
After Testing for hours, i could never get a reliable score with SD tools from the market.. I'm thinking this is just one more ****ty issue with the Galaxy S phones!!! Thanks Samsung, I'll never buy any more of your **** products..
elijahblake said:
I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
All thanks to Brainmaster for whipping this up..
I will post the results I've had to save you a few steps...
I did his test mothod using root explorer and sd Tools and tested each on of his recommended settings..
(I have the stock SDcard that came in my showcase, i'm assuming it's probably the same in the Mesmerize?) I'll take it out and update which class it is/Brand/it's 16GB..
so here's my Results:
128 3.7 MB/s Read 14.1 MB/s Write **This is what the phone is set to at default
1024 3.2/14.6
2048 5.1/14.4
3072 5.3/15.0
4096 6.7/15.0 <<<this is as far as he has listed and it gives the best results, Doubling the Read time and improving the Write time by a LITTLE!!!
Maybe some of the SCH-I500's dev can take a look at this and improve it even more for us..
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Is there any risk of data loss or card failure doing this?
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akellar said:
Is there any risk of data loss or card failure doing this?
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not sure why there would be, you're just adding cache to the sdcard... and like the OP states, if you do this through rootexplorer it reverts back to factory after rebooting..
You have to do one of his methods to make it permanent...
There's also an app in the Market called SD Speed Boost which does the same thing. It doesn't require you to use Root Explorer to change the value and it has a Set at Boot option so no flashing from recovery is required either.
I bet you could use Tasker to automate this at boot time as well. Nice find, Elijah. I had seen the app, but I would rather do it this way.
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I bet you could use Tasker to automate this at boot time as well. Nice find, Elijah. I had seen the app, but I would rather do it this way.
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If you flash one of the zips from the original post it is automated or if you use the app I mentioned it is automated, not really sure why you'd need another method to accomplish automation but to each their own. The zips just copy a shell script to init that set the value at each boot and the app just sets it when it runs at each boot. Of course the init route would occur prior to the app, but don't see much difference regardless of the chosen solution.
EDIT: Also YMMV with whatever option you choose to apply this mod. 1meg,2meg,3meg,4meg all yielded similar results for me, but I'm not using the Class 2 16gig that comes with the phone. I would imagine slower cards would see more of a benefit.
The reason I would rather use Tasker is to limit the number of things besides the ROM that I'm flashing to the phone (just to keep things as clean as possible). Plus, with Tasker doing it at boot, any future ROMs I install won't need any tweaking. I'll just have to import my profiles, which I'll be doing anyway.
ok flashing in CWM didn't work... It didn't hold the value change after rebooting..
And speaking of the app that does this... The Galaxy S isn't listed as compatible
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12478126&postcount=74
this post is interesting.. but the thing is that our phones don't have the /system/etc/init.d
elijahblake said:
ok flashing in CWM didn't work... It didn't hold the value change after rebooting..
And speaking of the app that does this... The Galaxy S isn't listed as compatible
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Just verified that the app does change the value to whatever I select. Could be that the author just hasn't tested on Galaxy S and therefore didn't risk saying that it was compatible. I mean were just talking file manipulation here, nothing more.
SN: I am not that author of the software nor do I know the author of the software. I'm just trying to help and I happened to know about the app cause I downloaded it a while ago. I know no one said anything, but as I read back over my post I did sound like a spokesperson for the app, lol.
hanman said:
The reason I would rather use Tasker is to limit the number of things besides the ROM that I'm flashing to the phone (just to keep things as clean as possible). Plus, with Tasker doing it at boot, any future ROMs I install won't need any tweaking. I'll just have to import my profiles, which I'll be doing anyway.
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Point taken sir.
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Just verified that the app does change the value to whatever I select. Could be that the author just hasn't tested on Galaxy S and therefore didn't risk saying that it was compatible. I mean were just talking file manipulation here, nothing more.
SN: I am not that author of the software nor do I know the author of the software. I'm just trying to help and I happened to know about the app cause I downloaded it a while ago. I know no one said anything, but as I read back over my post I did sound like a spokesperson for the app, lol.
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well, thanks for the tip..
and thanks for the SN.. Because to be honest i was kinda wondering about that lol
elijahblake said:
well, thanks for the tip..
and thanks for the SN.. Because to be honest i was kinda wondering about that lol
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Last thing I want is to get flamed for trying to help.
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Last thing I want is to get flamed for trying to help.
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ha, no problem..
and i'm glad to hear the app works, but this seems like it shouldn't be that hard to figure it out... I have a feeling some GREAT minds are reading this
edit*
I've read through the entire 27 pages of the OP and haven't figured it out, think i've seen a couple people saying writing a script will do the job, but the probelm is it says to push the scripts to a folder that's not on our phone i think that may be the hardest part......
well, got 4096 to stick after rebooting, now to see if i still have the speeds.... If it works i'll update the first post....
123SIT said:
Just verified that the app does change the value to whatever I select. Could be that the author just hasn't tested on Galaxy S and therefore didn't risk saying that it was compatible. I mean were just talking file manipulation here, nothing more.
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So what's the fastest Write/READ scores you've gotten with the app? And you have a showcase right?
Also let me know what sdcard you've got..
I'm just trying to see what speeds i should be trying to achieve..
Bringing the triple post back there Eli?
I too tried the OP flash via CWM earlier... speeds seem to vary through my tests with SD Tools.
elijahblake said:
So what's the fastest Write/READ scores you've gotten with the app? And you have a showcase right?
Also let me know what sdcard you've got..
I'm just trying to see what speeds i should be trying to achieve..
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I'm getting around 8mb write/ 20mb read on a transcend class 6 8gb card. I technically have a fascinate that ive mesmerized. I also went back and made the manual changes without using the app and they almost mirrored when using the app, minus normal variances of course.
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I'm getting around 8mb write/ 20mb read on a transcend class 6 8gb card. I technically have a fascinate that ive mesmerized. I also went back and made the manual changes without using the app and they almost mirrored when using the app, minus normal variances of course.
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well, if that's all it gives with you a class 6 card, then there's definitely no point with a class 2...
It looks like yet another shortcoming of The Galaxy S phones. All the HTC report SIGNIFICANT Gains, yet our phone barely budges..
I hate this phone more and more everyday
I really like apex launcher on my gs3 and equally so on my 8. But even though I set it as the default launcher Samsung seems to override at will. Is there something I'm missing?
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I use Nova. It's my favorite and works well on the Note 8. I think I read theres a bug in Apex, and thats why it doesnt work on the Note 8, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly
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Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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kisrita said:
I use Nova. It's my favorite and works well on the Note 8. I think I read theres a bug in Apex, and thats why it doesnt work on the Note 8, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly
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Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
xd2009 said:
Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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Yes to all the above. The only thing I've noticed that's lost is the S Planner month view widget. The S Planner app still works, I just couldn't get the big month view widget on the screen with Nova. So I bought aCalendar instead, which has a month view widget...
PS: For instant note to work, you have to hold the pen button while you touch the screen twice. (In my case, touching the screen twice is set to bring up recent apps, touching it twice while holding the pen button brings up the note. I'm not sure if there's a setting I changed somewhere to do that...)
kisrita said:
Yes to all the above. The only thing I've noticed that's lost is the S Planner month view widget. The S Planner app still works, I just couldn't get the big month view widget on the screen with Nova. So I bought aCalendar instead, which has a month view widget...
PS: For instant note to work, you have to hold the pen button while you touch the screen twice. (In my case, touching the screen twice is set to bring up recent apps, touching it twice while holding the pen button brings up the note. I'm not sure if there's a setting I changed somewhere to do that...)
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That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
xd2009 said:
That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
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Unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been an announcement regarding a release date for a 32GB version in US, or even that it will be available.
Get the 16gb version, buy a 32gb sd card for <$30. I would assume that would be much cheaper than paying whatever the upgrade cost is to have that additional memory built in. Plus, you can start playing with it now.
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xd2009 said:
Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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I know you're talking about Nova, but I've been using Apex Launcher, and all these features work.
The only thing I've really noticed that only shows up in TouchWiz Home is the S Planner widget(s)... weird, cause the S Planner ones still work in alternate launchers. Other than that, everything else seems to be intact, but maybe I missed something.
What other apps/widgets/features are specific to this launcher?
xd2009 said:
That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
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I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since. The only time I've ever had to delete an app to free up space was on my iPad. Maybe ios apps are bigger? You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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kisrita said:
I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since.
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Thanks for this info! I've been wondering about all that and how different usage patterns would affect things. If there is an easy way to do so would you mind posting a list of the apps you have installed?
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You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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Relevant threads (both methods require rooting your device):
howto: mount external sdcard as sdcrard0
Use SD-Card as main storage?
kisrita said:
I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since. The only time I've ever had to delete an app to free up space was on my iPad. Maybe ios apps are bigger? You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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I'm impressed that you only used 3GB. I usually use more than this. I have 9GB used in my Nexus 7 and almost twice as much on my Droid Razr Maxx. I do believe I would not need to install so many 3rd party apps on the Note since it's already heavily customized. I might give it a try to see if I can survive with only 9 GB.
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elmwood said:
Unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been an announcement regarding a release date for a 32GB version in US, or even that it will be available.
Get the 16gb version, buy a 32gb sd card for <$30. I would assume that would be much cheaper than paying whatever the upgrade cost is to have that additional memory built in. Plus, you can start playing with it now.
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I know you're talking about Nova, but I've been using Apex Launcher, and all these features work.
The only thing I've really noticed that only shows up in TouchWiz Home is the S Planner widget(s)... weird, cause the S Planner ones still work in alternate launchers. Other than that, everything else seems to be intact, but maybe I missed something.
What other apps/widgets/features are specific to this launcher?
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I have only heard of 32 GB in Europe or India. I had hopes of a 32 GB being released in the US because the Note 10 has a 32 GB version. I believe that no other Samsung device has more than 16 GB in the US.
I might give it a try now that it's available at Sam's Club.
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Thanks for this info! I've been wondering about all that and how different usage patterns would affect things. If there is an easy way to do so would you mind posting a list of the apps you have]
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If this works, the link should be to screen shots of all my apps on my Note 8. It is a short list, I had twice as many apps on my GNex until I cleaned it out recently, but this is pretty much all I need. I found that even my two year old single core tablet is still usable as long as I don't put a lot of apps on it. I also found on my GNex and Nexus 7 a horrible slow down when less than a specific amount of free space was available, so I now make sure I always have at least 2gb free.
Thanks for the sd card tips, I will check it out later.
Edit: deleted link. Picasa appears to link to Google plus now. I will post from another site tomorrow.
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I believe that no other Samsung device has more than 16 GB in the US. I might give it a try now that it's available at Sam's Club.
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So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
kisrita said:
If this works, the link should be to screen shots of all my apps on my Note 8. It is a short list, I had twice as many apps on my GNex until I cleaned it out recently, but this is pretty much all I need. ... I also found on my GNex and Nexus 7 a horrible slow down when less than a specific amount of free space was available, so I now make sure I always have at least 2gb free.
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Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
Regarding default home launcher:
I had this issue with Action Launcher and it was resolved by dev...only thing is theres a bug in the play store with JB4.1.2 that showed up then which is probably what you're getting now. It has been resolved with 4.2 so it'll be flakey until Samsung pushes that out. The workaround atm is to use a root app to make your launcher a system app not user and that'll override until 4.2 comes our way.
HTH
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So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
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You are right, I don't know which way it goes. Samsung usually releases a basic device and later releases either a 3G enabled or a different color, who knows? The Note at Sam's Club is $380. The biggest points for me are: an affordable protection plan and a longer (an actual hassle free) returning time. I figure I'll try the Note 8 as is and see whether or not I need the extra storage space for apps. I know of apps to install stuff to SD card but one needs to root the tablet. I've never rooted any phone or tablet and don't want to purchase something if rooting will be needed.
pluginalong said:
So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
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Ok - let's try these links... should be a screen shot of each of my app pages. The link on the bottom may go to the location all of them are shown. I haven't tried this before so I don't know how well this will work:
Possible link to all of them? http://postimg.org/gallery/6qd44eza/2765721e/
xd2009 said:
You are right, I don't know which way it goes. Samsung usually releases a basic device and later releases either a 3G enabled or a different color, who knows? The Note at Sam's Club is $380. The biggest points for me are: an affordable protection plan and a longer (an actual hassle free) returning time.
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That is a nice price (though of course sales tax will eat up some of the savings), and even better that you get the other benefits you mentioned!
xd2009 said:
I know of apps to install stuff to SD card but one needs to root the tablet. I've never rooted any phone or tablet and don't want to purchase something if rooting will be needed.
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Yeah, I feel similarly about not wanting to mess with rooting.
kisrita said:
Ok - let's try these links... should be a screen shot of each of my app pages.
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That worked fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
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Regarding default home launcher:
I had this issue with Action Launcher and it was resolved by dev...only thing is theres a bug in the play store with JB4.1.2 that showed up then which is probably what you're getting now. It has been resolved with 4.2 so it'll be flakey until Samsung pushes that out. The workaround atm is to use a root app to make your launcher a system app not user and that'll override until 4.2 comes our way.
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That's what I found too. Additionally, tt seems to have impact on paid apps only. I am using Smart Launcher. The free version works perfectly, paid version not. Although there is a "patch app" for Smart Launcher to fix this issue, it simply does not work on Galaxy Note 8.0. While at the same time works perfectly on Galaxy Note 2...... strange...
If you've rooted your rom, just delete the touch wiz apk from /system/app
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What about Go Launcher?
Have you tried Go Launcher on Note 8? I'm planning on buying this tablet in the near future, and Go Launcher is the best one I've tried on my SGS2.
I heard that RAM memory can be increase through SWAP
But I don't know how to...
Can anyone please explain it ?
my phone is rooted and unlocked BootLoader...
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Just read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
Just so you know swap partitions are very slow and can have a significant impact on the life of your SD card or internal memory, depending on where you put the partition. I know more RAM sounds like a good idea, but make sure to read the whole guide so you can a better feel for the cons of this procedure. Your phone might not even be noticeably faster afterwards.
You can put more RAM inside of your phone if you are so inclined. Just buy some RAM off NewEgg or your retailer of choice (DDR4 is really fast!). Once you get the RAM pop the back off your phone. Inside you will see a large black box with the word Liion written on it. Do not worry, this is not actual lion, nor is it a lion egg. Just take that out. Using scissors or another sharp implement, cut the RAM down to the size of that black box. Simply put that RAM inside of your phone and you are done! Some people like to solder it in place, but that is mostly just to cut down on rattle noise. Note, that soldering your phone is actually quite dangerous. I chose to solder mine, and my phone no longer boot after. But, it was still pretty cool to have 4GB of RAM in my phone.
R u joking??
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R u joking??
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I was being serious with my advice in the first paragraph. However, until they invent wireless RAM you can safely ignore the second paragraph.
huh ! :banghead:
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Buy a new phone...
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Xperia Z is good for gaming....
Okee I'll buy it..
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huh ! :banghead:
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Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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RAM is usually only an issue with older phones, but more often than not its not the only issue. I remember I experimented with swap back in my Fascinate (VZW Galaxy S variant) days, and that was because the VZW variant shipped with 384MB of RAM as opposed to 512MB on every other GS1 variant.
Several phones later, hours of reading, and enormous amounts more experimenting with Android not only on my phone, but rooting/flashing friends' phones too, I can tell you that if you're considering swap, you should really buy a new phone. Maybe that's not an option for you based on budget restrictions, however if that's the case I would recommend that spending time on XDA posting about hugely outdated software mods could be better spent working/advancing your career, but I digress.
More objectively, you're going to get better performance out of A) flashing newer versions of android which handle RAM swapping better and B) mild overclocking. Moderate to severe overclocking could gain you better performance yields but not for what you will sacrifice in battery life respectively. Hope this helps.
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Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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Also remember that this is a mobile computer, but a computer none the less. Regular reboots can make worlds of difference. I reboot every 2-3 days at least.
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Was fed up with my Htc One camera tint issue and got this yesterday. Just finished 1 full day with the Exynos version this evening, thought id share my experience here which should help other people.
Iv created a quick post on my blog here http://nerdict.com/first-day-impressions-samsung-galaxy-note-3-exynos-5420/
Im still waiting to get my hands on galaxy gear in my city but im less keen to get the 1st generations of it
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Thanks for this. I just finished chargidng mine. Im gonna root and start freezing all the bloatware
toofimoofi said:
Thanks for this. I just finished chargidng mine. Im gonna root and start freezing all the bloatware
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I guess u have the Snapdragon version? I dont see any recovery or root methods for my Exynos..
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I see you have black version . Can you please tell me if problem with notification led color is still there in black version ? (if you will download led color tester app you will try colors like cyan or white you will see led light of bad color ((3 colors in one )) white version of S3 S4 N2 didnt had this problem but black allways had )
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I see you have black version . Can you please tell me if problem with notification led color is still there in black version ? (if you will download led color tester app you will try colors like cyan or white you will see led light of bad color ((3 colors in one )) white version of S3 S4 N2 didnt had this problem but black allways had )
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Nop, its still the same as my grey Note2. Cyan is a mix of green and blue. Yellow is completely green and with a bit of yellow.
White is red, green and blue.
Attached the pic of yellow which shows green. Sorry for bad quality pic. I only have my wife's iphone as cam.
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cool_dhamz said:
I guess u have the Snapdragon version? I dont see any recovery or root methods for my Exynos..
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Yesh. Its snapdragon.
I really like the Note 3 but it is too big for me (although I have S4 ) and I don't use the S-Pen on daily basis so it has no use for me.
Hope you enjoy it!
Interesting blog post, but I think you misunderstand how Android works when it comes to RAM. It's not that the device is "RAM hungry", it's that it never releases RAM unless it needs to. That's why after running a few apps, nearly all of the available RAM is used. But this is ok, this just means that when you swap back to those apps, they're instantly available. When you open another app, the oldest app in memory is silently killed to free up the necessary RAM.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure the system is using up more than an average amount to account for the multitasking stuff alone, but saying that after a few apps have been used it's using 2.3GB of memory is a bit misleading. It may as well use that RAM, or what's the point in having it?
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Interesting blog post, but I think you misunderstand how Android works when it comes to RAM. It's not that the device is "RAM hungry", it's that it never releases RAM unless it needs to. That's why after running a few apps, nearly all of the available RAM is used. But this is ok, this just means that when you swap back to those apps, they're instantly available. When you open another app, the oldest app in memory is silently killed to free up the necessary RAM.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure the system is using up more than an average amount to account for the multitasking stuff alone, but saying that after a few apps have been used it's using 2.3GB of memory is a bit misleading. It may as well use that RAM, or what's the point in having it?
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This is something most android users fail to grasp. :good:
Understandably of course since most of us use windows or other platforms, with less memory sometimes means better performance. But memory in general is there to be USED not the opposite.
neoKushan said:
Interesting blog post, but I think you misunderstand how Android works when it comes to RAM. It's not that the device is "RAM hungry", it's that it never releases RAM unless it needs to. That's why after running a few apps, nearly all of the available RAM is used. But this is ok, this just means that when you swap back to those apps, they're instantly available. When you open another app, the oldest app in memory is silently killed to free up the necessary RAM.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure the system is using up more than an average amount to account for the multitasking stuff alone, but saying that after a few apps have been used it's using 2.3GB of memory is a bit misleading. It may as well use that RAM, or what's the point in having it?
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Yup i agree. But the amount of Ram used on my One and Note 2 was much less. Im sure there are some background processes goin on other than the open apps.
Ill post a screenshot of open apps vs ram as soon as i get to my office wifi..
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NIce Review...
cool_dhamz said:
Yup i agree. But the amount of Ram used on my One and Note 2 was much less. Im sure there are some background processes goin on other than the open apps.
Ill post a screenshot of open apps vs ram as soon as i get to my office wifi..
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Here, screenshot of open apps and available RAM attached..
The only negative of ram used is power drawn else ram used is good. I remember when people were complaining that vista used ram all the while the machine ran smoother over all as programs were loaded into ram instead of much slower HDD.
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I have some questions.
1. Whats is Actual Internal storage size? 18GB? :crying:
2. Tried disabling bloat from all all application in Application manager? How much RAM can u free up?
stanley08 said:
I have some questions.
1. Whats is Actual Internal storage size? 18GB? :crying:
2. Tried disabling bloat from all all application in Application manager? How much RAM can u free up?
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Just for the record its 23.43gb free
jutley said:
Just for the record its 23.43gb free
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Dat sounds better. At least...
stanley08 said:
I have some questions.
1. Whats is Actual Internal storage size? 18GB? :crying:
2. Tried disabling bloat from all all application in Application manager? How much RAM can u free up?
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1) - 32GB internal with 6GB allotted to system. Currently have 24.58GB available on mine.
2) - Disabled a few. 1.6GB ram on boot.
If i do not even use the device or open any apps, after about 30 mins the ram goes up to 2.0 or 2.1GB unnecessarily..
cool_dhamz said:
1) - 32GB internal with 6GB allotted to system. Currently have 24.58GB available on mine.
2) - Disabled a few. 1.6GB ram on boot.
If i do not even use the device or open any apps, after about 30 mins the ram goes up to 2.0 or 2.1GB unnecessarily..
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Thanks for this mate. I guess 24.58GB is decent enough (coming from an S4 with only 8.90GB), though i'm guessing you have the SM-9005 snapdragon as someone said his has 23GB+ earlier.
And when root methods come, or custom ROMs, RAM usage will change.
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Thanks for this mate. I guess 24.58GB is decent enough (coming from an S4 with only 8.90GB), though i'm guessing you have the SM-9005 snapdragon as someone said his has 23GB+ earlier.
And when root methods come, or custom ROMs, RAM usage will change.
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Nop i have the Exynos version..
I returned the HTC One before the 14 day return period, but for more reasons than just the camera. Battery life was terrible and non-expandable. There was no way I was going to stay tied to a charger. I liked the look of it, but after I stuck a case on it I realized what it looks like esthetically doesn't matter.
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No idea if this works, just came across it and figured I'd point people to the discussion thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6/general/s6-ram-management-discussion-t3128229
Saw this as well. Wanted to see if this worked on the VZW S6 as well before taking the plunge.
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Saw this as well. Wanted to see if this worked on the VZW S6 as well before taking the plunge.
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I looked into making the changes to the build.prop but ours is pretty different than the tmobile version. The instructions state that not all S6's will have the same lines to delete but they also mention that leaving duplicates will cause a bootloop. I don't feel like having to odin and wipe my phone if it doesn't work and at this point I cannot nandroid. I will wait for someone braver than I to post their results here :fingers-crossed:
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I looked into making the changes to the build.prop but ours is pretty different than the tmobile version. The instructions state that not all S6's will have the same lines to delete but they also mention that leaving duplicates will cause a bootloop. I don't feel like having to odin and wipe my phone if it doesn't work and at this point I cannot nandroid. I will wait for someone braver than I to post their results here :fingers-crossed:
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I did this on my s6 Edge Verizon running oe2... I didn't add the duplicate lines, I edited the existing code, and added the required additional lines. It has improve memory issue
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I did this on my s6 Edge Verizon running oe2... I didn't add the duplicate lines, I edited the existing code, and added the required additional lines. It has improve memory issue
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I added the lines and deleted the duplicate lines (was about 3 or 4 lines)
Did seem to do the trick.
**These are the lines i used and**
#MultiTasking Tweaks
ro.config.dha_cached_max=15 - duplicate line
ro.config.dha_empty_max=42 - duplicate line
ro.config.dha_empty_init=42 -duplicate line
ro.config.dha_th_rate=2.3 -duplicate line (maybe cant remember)
ro.config.dha_lmk_scale=0.545
ro.config.sdha_apps_bg_max=70
ro.config.oomminfree_high=7628,9768,11909,14515,16655,20469
Yep. I did the same thing, and I'm not getting as many redrawn at all. Apps are definitely staying in the state I left them instead if restarting. Very happy.
Scrub that.
My phone was sitting in my pocket for 10 minutes, and when I went back to the apps, they all restarted. I hadn't noticed this much before now, but it's annoying me now.
dknow101 said:
I added the lines and deleted the duplicate lines (was about 3 or 4 lines)
Did seem to do the trick.
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#MultiTasking Tweaks
ro.config.dha_cached_max=15 - duplicate line
ro.config.dha_empty_max=42 - duplicate line
ro.config.dha_empty_init=42 -duplicate line
ro.config.dha_th_rate=2.3 -duplicate line (maybe cant remember)
ro.config.dha_lmk_scale=0.545
ro.config.sdha_apps_bg_max=70
ro.config.oomminfree_high=7628,9768,11909,14515,16655,20469
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Eh. I went for it. Just a heads up to others, there was only 1 duplicate value for me to delete, not the 3 or 4 that most people are reporting.
Not sure why the differences but my phone didn't get stuck in a boot loop :good:. I will try to remember to post back after using the phone for a bit to see if there is a noticeable difference.
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Eh. I went for it. Just a heads up to others, there was only 1 duplicate value for me to delete, not the 3 or 4 that most people are reporting.
Not sure why the differences but my phone didn't get stuck in a boot loop :good:. I will try to remember to post back after using the phone for a bit to see if there is a noticeable difference.
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Any update?
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Any update?
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Thanks for the reminder!
Overall, switching back and forth between apps does seem faster. I haven't noticed any slow-downs after extended periods of time (2+ days without restarts). The phone doesn't run any hotter, battery life seems the same. Apps still reset after a while though, relay for reddit is something I use quite often but if I don't use it for a few hours it reloads.
I was hoping this would solve a slow-down issue that I am having where I am running spotify, waze, and textra's pop-up response (as a passenger of course). It didn't, the phone still slows down in this situation.
Overall, I don't see any downside to the tweak, so go for it.
Just a thought. Has anyone thought about using an apps2sd type of app to free up memory space? I remember having to do this years ago on an older phone (probably an older nexus)
Admittedly we shouldn't have to be doing this, but needs must.
grifforama said:
Just a thought. Has anyone thought about using an apps2sd type of app to free up memory space? I remember having to do this years ago on an older phone (probably an older nexus)
Admittedly we shouldn't have to be doing this, but needs must.
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This doesn't make sense to me. How does installing the app on sd card effect ram?
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I think I've confused myself. I give up. This phone is an enigma. I wish it didn't have TouchWiz.
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I wish it didn't have TouchWiz.
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Why did you buy it then or better, why didn't you return it?
grifforama said:
Just a thought. Has anyone thought about using an apps2sd type of app to free up memory space? I remember having to do this years ago on an older phone (probably an older nexus)
Admittedly we shouldn't have to be doing this, but needs must.
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This literally has NOTHING to do with RAM. RAM does not equal storage space. What you are referring to is freeing up storage space -- again nothing to do with RAM. Secondly, there is no SD card space, so this does not even make sense to do on the GS6.
Now, I have a question for those who have edited the build.prop. Has anyone used Root Explorer to do so? Secondly, to avoid bootlooping, did anyone change permissions of the build.prop file? To quote someone from a different forum:
-Mr. X- said:
after editing make sure permissions are 0644 on it or you will boot loop.
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Have you guys changed permissions to this? I want to mess around with my build.prop but don't want to boot loop because I'd have to Odin and it'd just be a hassle / annoying.
krelvinaz said:
Why did you buy it then or better, why didn't you return it?
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Because there's no viable alternative.
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Because there's no viable alternative.
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Sadly I agree with you. It sucks that on vzw we have to pick between choices that imo each have very negative things about them.
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This literally has NOTHING to do with RAM. RAM does not equal storage space. What you are referring to is freeing up storage space -- again nothing to do with RAM. Secondly, there is no SD card space, so this does not even make sense to do on the GS6.
Now, I have a question for those who have edited the build.prop. Has anyone used Root Explorer to do so? Secondly, to avoid bootlooping, did anyone change permissions of the build.prop file? To quote someone from a different forum:
Have you guys changed permissions to this? I want to mess around with my build.prop but don't want to boot loop because I'd have to Odin and it'd just be a hassle / annoying.
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I changed my build.prop file using root explorer (long click and edit in text editor)
When I saved it, it gave it the right permissions as far as I could see. It also backs up the original file as well.
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krelvinaz said:
Why did you buy it then or better, why didn't you return it?
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Also, I trusted Samsung to have given some thought to memory management themselves, and not have us figure it the f**k out. I thought I was done with this years ago.
My retired moto x on Kit Kat is far superior to this phone in many regards.
i'm just frustrated. This is an expensive-assed phone, and it looks like we are being treated as guinea pigs. Not a pleasant feeling.
Just did this and restarted, phone seems to be a little snappier though my RAM still shows pretty low. System is taking up 1.3gb down from 1.4gb and my free is hovering around 800 mb. still not ideal but not terrible.
falcon589 said:
... though my RAM still shows pretty low. System is taking up 1.3gb down from 1.4gb and my free is hovering around 800 mb. still not ideal but not terrible.
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Curious, what is your idea of ideal?
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Curious, what is your idea of ideal?
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Over 1gb free would be ideal. I dont have a lot of apps running besides a few email clients and messaging apps, and I'm running CleanROM as well.