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[Q] Galaxy S 4G: how much is your application storage?

I caught one with 190MB application storage which is unacceptable for most.
I use MT4 and NS instead of nexus one because of that. Don't ever think app2SD helps because it won't work when the phone is in USB mass storage mode or memory card is removed.

I had about the same until I started adding some of my apps to the phone. I can't even add all my apps because of the internal storage. Can't wait for root and some Roms (CyanogenMod 7).
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Man this thing is pissing me off. I can't even install half the apps I had installed on my original Vibrant.

T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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HeavyComponent said:
T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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We can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps for now right?

Well yeah if you have root access.
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Well yeah if you have root access.
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Cool I rooted it and have Titanium Backup installed. Just no CWM yet for ROM Manager.

I have all my appz installed with no issue... honestly 16gb onboard made the vibrant slow. im glad to have less... and I can install as many apps to my sd card as i want.

I see someone has said they have over 500mb of internal, how is that possible and why is mine not the same?

I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem

IAIRonI said:
I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem
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Ok cool, let us know what's going on. I have a total of 539MB internal storage.
Specs says 1GB! I read that off phonedog I think.

"You should definitley have more memory than what you are showing. I can get you the manufacturers information. Since it is a Samsung device their support teams will definitely be able to assist you a little better than us at the moment.
_Jessica C: I know that you don't want to go back to the store, but if there is an issue with the device it may be the best bet since it is a new phone. I can also recommend taking it to a T-mobile direct dealer. They may be able to test your software. They know anything and everything about these phones.
_Jessica C: I do apologize but I am limited with my information at the time."
Since it's a new phone she doesn't have all the info, etc. At least they know there is a problem now.
I'm going to go to a t-mobile store and talk to them so I'll let you know what they say

LOL
i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.

Ok, I just got off with a T-Mobile rep and she said the internal memory should have a total of 512MB. ...sucks! But good thing we have a 16GB sdcard.

^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
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i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.
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I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.

Let us know the difference once you get the exchange.
IAIRonI said:
^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.
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Ok, I can't stand my phone to be on stock so I think I will be going back to my MT4G.
I'll be back when Rom Manager supports the phone, full recovery and some nice ROMs starts flying in. (I WANT CM7!)
...love the screen though! Big difference when coming from the MT4G. :|
I will be checking this section and will be posting as well.
Thanks for all the help guys.

I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.

aloneinshadow said:
I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?

I only installed about 10 apps and I'm down to 151mb. Kinda sucks. Hoping we can get clockwork recovery soon.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?
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Just a few bloatware things, probably 10 or 15 apps.

A list of a few Vibrant 4G FAILS

Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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Also some of us who own the 4G have problems with the:
- GPS
- battery life
These are clearly evidenced by the many threads and posts of users having those specific issues.

What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.

aloneinshadow said:
What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.
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I agree with you 100%

Hopefully with a list up of problems a developer can look at this as a checklist for future rom development
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Yeah I love the speed, its deffinatly a noticable step up from my Mytouch 4g. I Like that the MyTouch 4g came with stock mobile hotspot activated, flash on the camera and the FFC on MyTouch 4g was noticably better quality camera than the Vibrant 4g is. Other than that it's Stupid that they took out the 16gb internal memory. But Im sure some sick ROMs will come out for this phone.

You should take GPS and battery life off of the list, there are like 2 people having that problem lol

can some one enlighten me on what's the deal with the part that says the internal storage have been removed???
pegate369 said:
Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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Never mind found the answer already... Holy CRAP! less than 512 mb available
that's a deal breaker for me, and i was planning to get one

Yes im new an all... but if we knew for months that the there was no camera flash and the internal memory was reduced (with expandable increased)... Who buys it , then complains about the issues already documented?
THe SGS4G is rocking with me, I moved apps to the SD , GPS works great . but i guess im the only one, it would seem from the forums ..

when i purchased this phone at the tmo store they said it had the 16g internal and aparently they didnt know

trekei said:
Yes im new an all... but if we knew for months that the there was no camera flash and the internal memory was reduced (with expandable increased)... Who buys it , then complains about the issues already documented?
THe SGS4G is rocking with me, I moved apps to the SD , GPS works great . but i guess im the only one, it would seem from the forums ..
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ur not, I love mine, great battery life, and all my functions work great. Low storage? who cares! take off the crapware.

bloatware
Can bloatware be deleted without root? Also, I have read that people who have removed telenav from the phone have had GPS issues after. Can anyone confirm this?

drksilenc said:
when i purchased this phone at the tmo store they said it had the 16g internal and aparently they didnt know
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Where does T-Mobile hire these people? Seriously. They told me that it had honeycomb on it when I bought it. I picked up the demo phone, went to about phone, and showed them that it had Froyo. They didn't believe me and insisted that it did in fact have honeycomb on it.... I guess thankfully if we're on here chances are we're smart enough to do our own research and know for the most part what we're getting into with any phone purchases.

I only go into the store to buy accesories , i never those people questions , they never know.

aloneinshadow said:
What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.
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the potential is the same as vib 3g + 4g data speeds ,there i described your phone .

Is a sam-dung , they always have problems...
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Lacking application storage is the utworst, period.
Modify internal hardware is nearly impossible (can you replace internal NAND with 4GB?!).

mingkee said:
Lacking application storage is the utworst, period.
Modify internal hardware is nearly impossible (can you replace internal NAND with 4GB?!).
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TO The Numerous People Who Whine and Complain About This:
Android 2.2 supports the ability to run applications from the microSD card.
OMG It doesn't have alot of internal storage... who cares? If you're running a Class 4, 5 or 6 SD card it doesn't matter.
Additionally I like the ability to upgrade my SD storage whenever I want.
It came with a 16gb SD card anyhow.
I didn't buy a Nexus S (16gb internal, no microSD) because it didn't support SD storage.
Stop whining and complaining about the fact that it doesn't have internal storage... it's getting old.

pegate369 said:
Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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FYI, if you buy a branded phone from a carrier you get bloatware, plain and simple.
Don't want bloatware? Root and remove like you already did. Feel lucky, the Epic 4G comes with way more crapware.
OR Buy a google experience phone like a G2.
FYI, internal memory wasn't removed, it was reduced.
FYI, the SGS4G has amazing night mode, frankly I don't like flash.

Cant make up my mind.....

if I should return this phone or not.
I am coming from the old MT3G, so this is a serious upgrade for me, and I am loving every thing about it, except the memory issue for the apps.
I know that the LG Optimus g2X is probably coming out this month on Tmo, and probably could get on that instead.
I am trying to get everyones opinion on this ... just to get the pros and cons of this compared to that of the LGs.
Would appreciate if you guys can give me your input......
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Also, is it possible to return it rooted? Do I need to reload all the bloatware I deleted?

I like the phone, but I cannot recommend over the mytouch 4g. I have both.
+ The screen is amazing, and a huge selling point
+ Takes some of the best HD video ive ever experienced on a mobile phone
+ Snappy phone, no real issues as far of everyday use. It truely is a great phone.
+ Data speeds are very good
- The cheezyness of touchwiz UI and the extreme bloatware
- Totally nerfed the memory, combined with bloatware I only had like 400mb of memory available, why samsung?
-/+ no Flash on Camera, sorry. Camera performs well, but video is very good. Actually takes half decent pics in dim lighting. But having the option for flash would help, again..why samsung?
Other little things with the stock rom, like the browser not able to load in desktop mode and the very well hidden mobile hotspot are annoying but im sure will be resolved with custom Roms.
This phone couldve been a home run, but samsung only trades off some luxuries hardwarewise. The shipping software is tragic, but XDA im sure will come to the rescue. So with that...im keeping it.
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i've worked a couple of refurb centers for cell phones and you can return a phone to them with a full custom rom on it if you want. they don't care. they just replace hardware and plastics as necessary and EVERY phone gets plugged in and returned to a factory image. with that in mind... don't tell customer support anything over the phone that would prevent them from setting you up for a phone swap. lol
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great... i recommend it. improved sound and video recording over the original Vibrant. i still have my original Vibrant so i compare them off and on. drastic improvements in some areas such as GPS. no change in others.
give it a go... you've got nothing to lose.

Return it and wait for something better.
I literally can't wait to get my replacement Vibrant 3g in the mail, so I can take this thign back.
I actually really hate it, and feel it's been a step backwards.

Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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I have a mytouch 4g so I disagree with the above post. I would so get a galaxy s.
Lol but if you wanna get rid of it....i will trade you my mytouch 4g haha
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Just wait on GS2 Galaxy 4g Is pointless a 4g upgrade no power at all at all lol
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luckyduck69 said:
i've worked a couple of refurb centers for cell phones and you can return a phone to them with a full custom rom on it if you want. they don't care. they just replace hardware and plastics as necessary and EVERY phone gets plugged in and returned to a factory image. with that in mind... don't tell customer support anything over the phone that would prevent them from setting you up for a phone swap. lol
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great... i recommend it. improved sound and video recording over the original Vibrant. i still have my original Vibrant so i compare them off and on. drastic improvements in some areas such as GPS. no change in others.
give it a go... you've got nothing to lose.
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I definitely want to give this one a try, as said coming from the old MT3G, this is a good upgrade, snappy fast. Yes apps can be handled using the app2sd etc, but if waiting for a few more days or weeks will get me a phone where this is not going to be a tradeoff, then I keep thinking that it might be worth waiting.
castro08 said:
Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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I am not sure if its being released this month, but cnet, XDA, endgadget all announced it a few days back that Tmobile is going to be getting it this month. The exact launch date i am unsure of. Check out the forum on XDA, they are talking all about it. (of course I might be totally mistaken)
carmeng4evr said:
I have a mytouch 4g so I disagree with the above post. I would so get a galaxy s.
Lol but if you wanna get rid of it....i will trade you my mytouch 4g haha
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Ohh no way am I going for the MT4G, they were giving it at free at Costco - from where i upgraded to the SG4G, but chose not to.. nice try though
The only one I think I wanna wait for is the LG phone, since its to be, APPARENTLY, original android etc and it might have the 1 or 2 GB space for apps. Of course its dual core etc, and might get ginerbread much earlier then the samsung.
The drawback on the LG is the screen resolution. And we dont know how the battery life is going to be on it or any other issues.

xxkingpinxx said:
- The cheezyness of touchwiz UI and the extreme bloatware
- Totally nerfed the memory, combined with bloatware I only had like 400mb of memory available, why samsung?
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Extreme bloatware? Have you seen a Epic 4G stock... now that is extreme bloatware compared to this.
Additionally, DoubleTwist AirSync is $5, so yeah I guess it's bloatware if you don't use it, but otherwise it's a bonus.
Honestly, I still don't understand everyone's complaint about internal memory. Move the app to the 16gb SD they provided.
Additionally, I was going to get the Nexus S but then I found out it has 16gb internal but no microSD support. I like the ability to change my storage space.

I am also coming from a My Touch 3g (3.5) and I really love the Galaxy S. I was up in the air between Nexus S, My Touch 4g, and this one. The Nexus lost out because no memory slot, the My Touch seemed a little slower (perception maybe) and the screen was not as nice. I can live with the on board memory since I can do a 32 gig card and run most apps that way. Will I regret not waiting...maybe but right now it is the best phone I have had it was easy to root and remove all the garbage I didnt want.
So I say keep it

luckyduck69 said:
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great...
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Memory IS an issue. With the type of processor this phone has is geared toward gaming and video. Gaming is great on this phone, but alot of the high quality games needs system resources and still needs a sizable amount of memory on the phone even with SD card data moved, not to mention even the apps that have to use system resources and cannot be moved. From my experience, the paltry memory was used real quick, and I'm not the only one.
joedeveloper said:
Extreme bloatware? Have you seen a Epic 4G stock... now that is extreme bloatware compared to this.
Additionally, DoubleTwist AirSync is $5, so yeah I guess it's bloatware if you don't use it, but otherwise it's a bonus.
Honestly, I still don't understand everyone's complaint about internal memory. Move the app to the 16gb SD they provided.
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No I haven't seen Epic 4g stock.
Im a 6yr Tmobile employee, I beta test and get my phones free, so I've been thru almost all our phones. This one has to have the most on board "bloatware" I've come across out of all our phones. Now bloatware to me by definition are software that should be OPTIONAL to the end user but is not and remains on the phone using memory and not being used.
A few apps I don't use and would like to be removed,
amazon mp3 - 1.12mb
Tmobile Backup- 1.15mb
Kindle- 2.68mb
Layer- 3.0mb
Media Hub- 4.47mb
My Account- 1.35mb
Slacker Radio- 2.40mb
T-Mobile TV- 4.48mb
TeleNav GPS- 1.97mb
ThinkFree Office- 9.18mb
Y! Finance Clock- 1.2mb
Now thats only app size, not to mention the cached data and background resources these apps use. And thats just some of the stuff, I do use some of the other apps already on the phone.
Really the point I'm trying to make is that most upper tier Android phones, (which this should fall in that catagory) should almost be a prerequisite to have a sizable amount of onboard memory available to the end user and this one doesn't. Why does the vibrant have sizable memory and this doesn't?
And BTW, I do not know why everybody is dogging the MyTouch 4G, it can do everything the Gs4G can do, and has memory and camera flash and only .2 of an inch smaller screen, and of course HTC made so updates and large XDA support. Like I said...I like the Galaxy S 4G but feel I made a lateral move from the MyTouch 4G.

castro08 said:
Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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Id like to know the same..
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Why does htc's website show diffrent info about out phone?

check this out:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/sensation4g-tmobile/tech-specs/
any one know if they have the full 4 gig already on our phone but its hidden??
we already know the the sensation special edition has the same speed processor but does it already have the same memory but we just cant see it?
out of the box i had 1.04 avail internally. any one have something different?

I think sense takes 3 gigs or something like that.

I hear the operating system and other data take up space. But maybe that's not true. WHY IS MY WINDOWS INSTALLATION FOLDER 15 GB BIG? IT SHOULD TAKE NO SPACE AT ALL, RIGHT?

Yepp that's our phone we got 4GB but only 1 available for user application that's what I've read...hopefully CM7 will take care of that too
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d.brown said:
Yepp that's our phone we got 4GB but only 1 available for user application that's what I've read...hopefully CM7 will take care of that too
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I think sense takes 3 gigs or something like that.
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Common sense, you have it.

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Well thanks for the answers, i my self cant wait for cm7 to come to us. I came from the hd2, only because the digitizer stopped working as usual on android installations, and it was the same price to replace the phone under insurance as it was to upgrade this phone...

I read its eMMC protected so we won't be able to access the rest of the 3 GB. It's reserved for system files and other crap.

How to Increase RAM memory ? :/

I heard that RAM memory can be increase through SWAP
But I don't know how to...
Can anyone please explain it ?
my phone is rooted and unlocked BootLoader...
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Just read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231

Just so you know swap partitions are very slow and can have a significant impact on the life of your SD card or internal memory, depending on where you put the partition. I know more RAM sounds like a good idea, but make sure to read the whole guide so you can a better feel for the cons of this procedure. Your phone might not even be noticeably faster afterwards.
You can put more RAM inside of your phone if you are so inclined. Just buy some RAM off NewEgg or your retailer of choice (DDR4 is really fast!). Once you get the RAM pop the back off your phone. Inside you will see a large black box with the word Liion written on it. Do not worry, this is not actual lion, nor is it a lion egg. Just take that out. Using scissors or another sharp implement, cut the RAM down to the size of that black box. Simply put that RAM inside of your phone and you are done! Some people like to solder it in place, but that is mostly just to cut down on rattle noise. Note, that soldering your phone is actually quite dangerous. I chose to solder mine, and my phone no longer boot after. But, it was still pretty cool to have 4GB of RAM in my phone.

R u joking??
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Essaker said:
R u joking??
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I was being serious with my advice in the first paragraph. However, until they invent wireless RAM you can safely ignore the second paragraph.

huh ! :banghead:
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Buy a new phone...
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Xperia Z is good for gaming....
Okee I'll buy it..
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huh ! :banghead:
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Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.

Jedakiah said:
Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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RAM is usually only an issue with older phones, but more often than not its not the only issue. I remember I experimented with swap back in my Fascinate (VZW Galaxy S variant) days, and that was because the VZW variant shipped with 384MB of RAM as opposed to 512MB on every other GS1 variant.
Several phones later, hours of reading, and enormous amounts more experimenting with Android not only on my phone, but rooting/flashing friends' phones too, I can tell you that if you're considering swap, you should really buy a new phone. Maybe that's not an option for you based on budget restrictions, however if that's the case I would recommend that spending time on XDA posting about hugely outdated software mods could be better spent working/advancing your career, but I digress.
More objectively, you're going to get better performance out of A) flashing newer versions of android which handle RAM swapping better and B) mild overclocking. Moderate to severe overclocking could gain you better performance yields but not for what you will sacrifice in battery life respectively. Hope this helps.
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Jedakiah said:
Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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Also remember that this is a mobile computer, but a computer none the less. Regular reboots can make worlds of difference. I reboot every 2-3 days at least.
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